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not farfrom the not far from the parliament buildings. we've been following these live images. thousands of protesters back on the street, yet again. angry at the governments decision, announcing it will suspend a session talks with the european union. basically put on hold any prospect ofjoining the european union until the end of 2028. that has angered protesters, pro—western politicians and people on the street as you can see. it's getting into the early hours of the morning in tbilisi. looking relatively calm now. clashes earlier on. it has been months of a difficult political situation to put it lightly. then came elections which had
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been disputed by the opposition for them and been called by the european union to rerun the elections in which georgian dream one. opposition prounion parties have boycotted parliaments at the moment. a very strange constitutional situation they are in georgia. plenty of anger as those protesters take to the streets yet again. a little earlier i got a sense of what was happening from our correspondent. i happening from our correspondent. happening from our corresondent. ., ,~,:: :: correspondent. i about 300 meters away _ correspondent. i about 300 meters away from - correspondent. i about 300 meters away from the - correspondent. i about 300 - meters away from the parliament where it has been the focal point for most of the protest here in georgia. it is the focal point now this is where the riot police have been deployed, and this is where they have used water cannons to disperse
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the protesters. now more and more people are moving this way presumably escaping tear gas, and i can still hear in the distance this explosive sound. this could be tear gas or it could be a warning or fireworks. let's bring in our panel. michael crick, and ravi agrawal. let's start with you, what is your sense of what's happening in the significance and georgia? is very significant. this is basically a divide that is been playing out for a while. our countries in europe going to be pro—european? can they use the carrot ofjoining the eu successfully or is russia able to impose its will on these countries like georgia and try
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and oppose any attempts to join the european union? in many senses this is the same set of criteria and questions that lead to the war in ukraine, that has lead to instability in many countries, especially eastern european countries, countries that were once part of the soviet union. in many ways if you are the president of russia you are looking at these images within the element of plea. the party in power, georgian dream which is been in power since 2012 as you been reporting has pulled out all of the path and the road towards a session to the eu until 2026 or so. the protests you are seeing are signs that the people they are signs that the people they are feel a sense of the trail look towards open borders, free trade with the eu is something
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thatis trade with the eu is something that is aspirationalfor trade with the eu is something that is aspirational for many countries that are not in the block. that is that the blood eight divide your scene play out. a reminder that of course the last months elections there have been clear and credible allegations that the elections were not free and fair. there were not free and fair. there were instances of vote buying, voter suppression and intimidation for that this is been ratified by old servers and the eu of course and russia as you are a badge and has denied that it is had any involvement in a site that the election is free and fair. michael, what is your assessment of what's happening there on the streets of tbilisi? ~ , there on the streets of tbilisi?— there on the streets of tbilisi? ~ , . , , there on the streets of tbilisi? a . , , , tbilisi? as ravi says, is very reminiscent _ tbilisi? as ravi says, is very reminiscent of _ tbilisi? as ravi says, is very reminiscent of what - tbilisi? as ravi says, is very reminiscent of what we - tbilisi? as ravi says, is very reminiscent of what we saw| tbilisi? as ravi says, is very i reminiscent of what we saw in ukraine, — reminiscent of what we saw in ukraine, 15 years or so ago. both— ukraine, 15 years or so ago. both of— ukraine, 15 years or so ago. both of these countries were part— both of these countries were part of— both of these countries were part of the soviet union for the both_ part of the soviet union for the both of them in both cases are divided between those who want _ are divided between those who want to— are divided between those who want to look to the west shore
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ceu want to look to the west shore ce“ and — want to look to the west shore ceu and nato and those who want to look_ ceu and nato and those who want to look towards the northeast and the — to look towards the northeast and the north towards russia. russia — and the north towards russia. russia interfering in all sorts of ways— russia interfering in all sorts of ways for them and to try to affect— of ways for them and to try to affect the _ of ways for them and to try to affect the politics. we're seeing _ affect the politics. we're seeing other stories, even members of the european union like hungary and romania and such— like hungary and romania and such for— like hungary and romania and such for that were going to get these — such for that were going to get these niggling little disputes in operations and divides i think— in operations and divides i think for— in operations and divides i think for years into the future _ think for years into the future. and it means that eastern _ future. and it means that eastern europe and the former parts _ eastern europe and the former parts of— eastern europe and the former parts of the soviet union to the west— parts of the soviet union to the west to the south of russia are going — the west to the south of russia are going to be a very unstable part of— are going to be a very unstable part of the world for a long time — part of the world for a long time. ., ,., ., time. you both mentioned ukraine- _ time. you both mentioned ukraine. president - time. you both mentioned i ukraine. president zelensky time. you both mentioned - ukraine. president zelensky has suggested there could be a cease—fire if government —controlled territory in
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ukraine was given nato membership regardless of whether russia immediately handed back areas it's seized for the in an interview with sky news saying two. and then ukraine would get the occupied territory back in a diplomatic way. this comes after donald trump keep kellogg's us special envoy for the ukraine war for the peers advised trump on foreign policy for eight years. kellogg has advised trump on foreign policy for eight years. earlier this year, he co—wrote a strategy paper for ending the russia—ukraine war, which proposed making future us military aid contingent on kyiv agreeing to enter peace talks. let's bring our panel backend. we will come back to the donald trump potential influence a little later. just wanted your reaction and explanation of
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what you think president zelensky was getting at here. it's really no surprise that he would say that. the picture that he's painting would be a good picture for ukraine. the main sticking point in any potential deal is whether nato gets to support the territory that ukraine keeps. currently russia controls around about 20% give or take of ukrainian territory that it has seized. you will notice they are that zelensky did not talk about taking that territory back. that of course would be a nonstarter for president putin. it is also a nonstarter for pollutant that nato would protect the territory, the 80% that russia still controls, that russia still controls, that it would be back by nato. every thing that zelensky is saying is in a sense wishful thinking. putin has said that he will not support it. the
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bigger question in all of this is what the united states will do and what europe will do. both have said that they eventually want ukraine to join nato. they have slow rolled it, they have delayed it. in the hopes that some other form of agreement could be reached on territory first and then the issue of who defends ukraine becomes a secondary matter. again, everything zelensky is saying there is things that he has been saying for a while now but there is no guarantee that thatis but there is no guarantee that that is how it's going to play out. ~ . ., ., , ., out. michael, to get your thoughts _ out. michael, to get your thoughts on _ out. michael, to get your thoughts on zelensky - out. michael, to get your. thoughts on zelensky these words. this thoughts on zelensky these words. �* , . thoughts on zelensky these words. m ., thoughts on zelensky these words. a ., , words. as ravi says, there is no way that _ words. as ravi says, there is no way that putin _ words. as ravi says, there is no way that putin is - words. as ravi says, there is no way that putin is going . words. as ravi says, there is no way that putin is going to | no way that putin is going to id no way that putin is going to go along _ no way that putin is going to go along with those and indeed would — go along with those and indeed would nato be willing to send nato — would nato be willing to send nato forces into ukraine to defend _ nato forces into ukraine to defend in case things go wrong? over_ defend in case things go wrong? over to — defend in case things go wrong? over to simply membership of the retained part of ukraine to nato _ the retained part of ukraine to nate and — the retained part of ukraine to nato and if things went wrong
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you then _ nato and if things went wrong you then have to summon up the nato _ you then have to summon up the nato forces from across the borders? _ nato forces from across the borders? it's a start. clearly the — borders? it's a start. clearly the next _ borders? it's a start. clearly the next few months are going to be _ the next few months are going to be fascinating in terms of what — to be fascinating in terms of what happens. between ukraine, the united states and russia. it's hot — the united states and russia. it's not a _ the united states and russia. it's not a realistic outcome to dispute — it's not a realistic outcome to dispute for that it's a negotiating point. ravi, 'ust on the influence * negotiating point. ravi, 'ust on the influence you i negotiating point. ravi, just on the influence you think. negotiating point. ravi, just| on the influence you think of donald trump and how that changes the equation here. he’s changes the equation here. he's immensely _ changes the equation here. he's immensely influential— changes the equation here. he�*s immensely influential because the united is the biggest military backer of nato for them in the united states says it's not willing to protect ukrainian territory then it does not happen. it's simple as that. what trump has been trying to do since 2016 is to get european countries to spend more on defense, to get them to support nato much more than they currently are. he often
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takes maximalist positions in public for that maybe because he believes them but maybe it's a negotiating tactic. a lot of this is give and take that we're going to see more and more of once trump takes office. forzelensky more of once trump takes office. for zelensky to publicly say for example that we're not going to need the territory back immediately, which again is a nonstarter, it's may be his way of saying that we're not going to take maximalist positions, were open to some form of negotiation for the ravi, michael, thank you both. , , . the ravi, michael, thank you both. , ., ., the ravi, michael, thank you both. , ., into tbilisi, last time we checked in the live feed philip to be a bit of a pause and calm. that does not like like the case right now as you can see. —— tbilisi. it looks like what could be fireworks being thrown for the certainly projectiles being thrown by
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protesters. these scenes looking a little bit more like the scenes of 2a hours ago when we did get reports of classes and arrests and claims of violence. you can see that does here in the uk, nationwide reports black can ay here in the uk, nationwide reports black can see that does look like fireworks being violence. you can see that does look like fireworks being thrown by protesters there at thrown by protesters there at the line of riot police. we're the line of riot police. we're keeping across those pictures keeping across those pictures for you. for you. we will get back to our we will get back to our discussion with our panel. back discussion with our panel. back to the us. back to the us. to the us. back to the us. thanksgiving weekend in the us. reports black friday thanksgiving weekend in the us. thursday for turkey — thursday for turkey — friday for shopping. friday for shopping. crowds in malls across america crowds in malls across america for black friday sales. for black friday sales. trying to get a bargain. trying to get a bargain. our us partner cbs reports our us partner cbs reports cutsomers are forecast to break cutsomers are forecast to break spending records in 202a. spending records in 202a. notjust in the united states. notjust in the united states.
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here in the uk, nationwide here in the uk, nationwide reports black friday is busier than last year, too — up 11%. what is the impact of that? we hear a lot about struggling economies, cost—of—living crisis and yet we have a bit of a seeming spending splurge on black friday. michael, let's start with you. traditionally we've got — start with you. traditionally we've got the _ start with you. traditionally we've got the bargains - start with you. traditionally | we've got the bargains after christmas in the boxing day sates— christmas in the boxing day sales in— christmas in the boxing day sales in this country, which were — sales in this country, which were carried on until the new year— were carried on until the new year for— were carried on until the new year for that we now have the absurd — year for that we now have the absurd thing when you get a discount _ absurd thing when you get a discount on black friday at the end of— discount on black friday at the end of novemberand discount on black friday at the end of november and then the prices — end of november and then the prices go — end of november and then the prices go up again. the idea is everybody— prices go up again. the idea is everybody rushes to the shop to -et everybody rushes to the shop to get all_ everybody rushes to the shop to get all these bargains with the ithink— get all these bargains with the ithihk a — get all these bargains with the i think a large number of them are hot— i think a large number of them are not bargains. it's not something that i take much notice — something that i take much notice of. my rule is i don't start— notice of. my rule is i don't start buying things in till december for christmas for them if it gives — december for christmas for them if it gives a — december for christmas for them if it gives a boost to our
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economy right now, frankly it's in the — economy right now, frankly it's in the doldrums and on the verge — in the doldrums and on the verge of— in the doldrums and on the verge of a recession may already— verge of a recession may already be in recession. then aood. already be in recession. then good- what _ already be in recession. then good. what about _ already be in recession. then good. what about in - already be in recession. then good. what about in the - already be in recession. then good. what about in the us, | good. what about in the us, similar picture in
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more protectionist the united states especially is becoming more protectionist, turning inward, turning against global trade in many ways if i were donald trump i would be looking at this is yet another sign for the american people love consuming for them and the things that they consume come from all over the world. even though the political instinct is to turn inward that people seem to always want better deals and better deals involve goods from around the world better are often cheaper than what americans can produce. michael, the idea of tariffs. donald trump threatening to bring in for the what impact do you think that would have around the world? it you think that would have around the world? it would be inflationary- — around the world? it would be inflationary. if— around the world? it would be inflationary. if he _ around the world? it would be inflationary. if he is _ around the world? it would be inflationary. if he is going - around the world? it would be inflationary. if he is going to l inflationary. if he is going to levy— inflationary. if he is going to levy tariffs as a levels he's talking _ levy tariffs as a levels he's talking about, which is 20% for much _ talking about, which is 20% for much of— talking about, which is 20% for much of the world and 60% for china, — much of the world and 60% for china, that could lead to an appalling trade war. in a
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detrimental effect on all of our economies. certainly britain _ our economies. certainly britain it— our economies. certainly britain it is the last thing we need — britain it is the last thing we need right now. i'm sure that's true _ need right now. i'm sure that's true of— need right now. i'm sure that's true of europe and everywhere else _ true of europe and everywhere else. trump says these things for the — else. trump says these things for the a — else. trump says these things for the a lot of what he says is a — for the a lot of what he says is a matter... a bargaining position— is a matter... a bargaining position for the visa deal—maker he saying these things— deal—maker he saying these things in— deal—maker he saying these things in order to get more out of china — things in order to get more out of china and more out of the european _ of china and more out of the european union, more out of us. forcing _ european union, more out of us. forcing us — european union, more out of us. forcing us to _ european union, more out of us. forcing us to relax other aspects _ forcing us to relax other aspects of our trade relations. he may— aspects of our trade relations. he may well levy terrace but i don't _ he may well levy terrace but i don't think they will be in the end of— don't think they will be in the end of the levels that he is talking _ end of the levels that he is talking about now. certainly not when it's talking about europe _ not when it's talking about europe and britain.- not when it's talking about europe and britain. thank you both for the moment. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news.
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all this is bbc news. now it's time for the panel. this is the part of the show are painless get to talk about what they want to talk about. i know michael that you want to talk paris notre dame. just before i unleash you let's take a quick look. michael, explained to us while we were looking at those wonderful images.- we were looking at those wonderful images. that is the restored notre _ wonderful images. that is the restored notre dame - wonderful images. that is the i restored notre dame cathedral. it's absolutely wonderful. this is one — it's absolutely wonderful. this is one of— it's absolutely wonderful. this is one of the great new stories of our— is one of the great new stories of our time. five years ago the cathedrai— of our time. five years ago the cathedral was in ruins after that— cathedral was in ruins after that appalling fire. and people wondered whether it would ever come _ wondered whether it would ever come to— wondered whether it would ever come to life again. and now it
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is looking _ come to life again. and now it is looking fantastic. it's a good _ is looking fantastic. it's a good news story in so many ways for the _ good news story in so many ways for the first — good news story in so many ways for the first start, it restores faith in the ability of the _ restores faith in the ability of the state to get things done at a time — of the state to get things done at a time when states all over the world _ at a time when states all over the world seem to be doing more and more — the world seem to be doing more and more incompetence. mccrone said it _ and more incompetence. mccrone said it would take five years and — said it would take five years and it's— said it would take five years and it's takenjust over said it would take five years and it's taken just over five years— and it's taken just over five years with emmanuel macron put up years with emmanuel macron put up instead of 15 or whatever it would've _ up instead of 15 or whatever it would've been with any other projects— would've been with any other projects with any other project for them — projects with any other project for them it'll boost the french economy, _ for them it'll boost the french economy, tours and be flocking now to — economy, tours and be flocking now to paris just to see this new— now to paris just to see this new notre dame. look at the pictures— new notre dame. look at the pictures for them it looks totally— pictures for them it looks totally transformed light and airy and _ totally transformed light and airy and the way these medieval cathedrals were originally built _ cathedrals were originally built. of course it's going to be a — built. of course it's going to be a huge _ built. of course it's going to be a huge boost to the craftsman industry. it involved 2000 — craftsman industry. it involved 2000 craftsman put up with luck they will— 2000 craftsman put up with luck they will then be going on and helping — they will then be going on and helping to restore other
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ancient _ helping to restore other ancient monuments. it�*s helping to restore other ancient monuments. it's 'ust wonderful. i ancient monuments. it's 'ust wonderful. it is i ancient monuments. it's 'ust wonderful. it is a i ancient monuments. it'sjusti wonderful. it is a remarkable restoration because they haven't just restoration because they haven'tjust restored it haven't just restored it they've haven'tjust restored it they've made it brighter and lighter and even more dazzling for the it's very impressive. let's go to ravi. the floor is yours. i let's go to ravi. the floor is ours. ., ., ., yours. i have to say, that was a aood yours. i have to say, that was a good news _ yours. i have to say, that was a good news story, _ yours. i have to say, that was a good news story, one - yours. i have to say, that was a good news story, one that l yours. i have to say, that was a good news story, one that i | a good news story, one that i wanted to highlight is perhaps less good news injust wanted to highlight is perhaps less good news in just more from the category of bizarre. there is, i'm sure your views would've heard of the infamous 2019 work comedian, which was basically a banana duct tape to a wall. that banana was being auctioned off, the artwork was being auctioned off at sotheby�*s in new york. a chinese born crypto currency entrepreneur was the highest bidder at about $6.2 million, nearly £5 million. he has
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followed through on his promise to eat the banana. he is now done so for the it's only happened a couple of times before it's been regularly replace with them i'm pleased you put that in there that it has been regularly replace with “p has been regularly replace with up that banana has not been stuck on there the whole time. they replaced the banana that was a crucial bit of that story that i'm pleased you highlighted. i'm afraid were out of time. ravi, michael, thank you very much with up you been a brilliant panel. i lewis vaughn been a brilliant panel. i lewis vaugthones, this is bbc news. hello from the bbc sport centre. it's a big night of women's euro qualifiers involving three of the home nations... wales are trying to reach their first major tournament. tonight they drew one all with the republic of ireland in a play off first leg. they made a great start with lily woodham putting her
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side ahead after 19 minutes at the cardiff city stadium. but they weren't leading for long when a shot from ruesha littlejohn ricocheted off the bar, and back into keeper olivia clark for an one all it finished. the second leg is in dublin on tuesday. scotland keeper eartha cumings stopped finland from taking a 1 nil lead in a game of few chances. no goals in the first leg at easter road. scotland are bidding to reach a first major tournament in five years. it's been a very difficult night for northern ireland. they knew it would be tough facing norway, a nation who've reached the last 12 editions of the women's european championship and who've won the competition twice. northern ireland well beaten by four goals to nil in larne. still the second leg to come. uud van nistelrooy has been confirmed as the new head coach at leicester city. he last held the reins at manchester united for four games in between erik ten hag's sacking and ruben amorim taking over. his only fulltime coaching role
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was for a season at psv eindhoven, finishing as runner up in the eredivisie last year. leicester sacked steve cooper last weekend after only five months in charge, with the club sitting one point above the relegation zone. he's got the know how. he's been on the pitch for years. yeah, i reckon he would be great. well if he can do good for the carl the two club and it's a good idea. theyjust seem to be parting at the moment. sounds like he would be a good fit, i think. - with his past history, his experience in - the game, isn't he? a bit more energy. a bit more forward thinking for the obviously leicester used to play in attacking football. i think he would be good at that for that they should benefit from that. yes! yes. why?
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i don't know, i really liked him. i think they made a mistake in not keeping him. righton and hove albion can go second in the premier league, for now, if they beat bottom side southampton. just a few minutes left at the amex. they are into the second minute of the ten for that 1— also thought flynn downs equalizer, the saints and their second goal ruled out by four. —— var. manchester city manager pep guardiola says it will be harderfor them to win the league if they don't beat liverpool at the weekend. sunderland patrick roberts had a penalty saved about 20 seconds or so remaining amount one. the former england and harlequins joe marler has said goodbye to the sport. harlequins propjoe marler has said goodbye to the sport.
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following his international retirement earlier this month, marler announced on wednesday that this match with bristol would be the last of his career. harlequins are the only club marler�*s played for, he's been there since 2009, and after being applauded out on the field, his side battled hard but saw a rampant bristol take the win by 45 points to 17. —— 48 points for 40 for. saracens were beaten by newcastle who move off the bottom of the table with that result. salaries set forth. the bonus point when take some seven points clear of the top of the table. also remain seven. parents gored the pick of the leinster tries in the second half on the hour mark. glasgow warrior one and a tight match that proves scarlet when it was two minutes remaining
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for the penalty attempt drifted agonizingly wide for the post—side scored wide for that the difference as the warriors states second. the difference as the warriors states second. lando norris is on pole for tomorrow's sprint race in qatar, the penultimate weekend of the f1 season, as mclaren look to secure the constructors�* championship. norris went quickest, narrowly beating fellow briton george russell to first place. norris' mclaren team mate oscar piastri was third — they lead ferrari by 24 points after the last race in las vegas where max verstappen ecured the world championship — he ended sixth, while his red bull team mate sergio perez was eliminated in the first session. don't forget day three of the first test between new zealand and england gets way in a few minutes' time for the england for 309 forfive of minutes' time for the england for 309 for five of the affiant the house follow it all on the bbc sport website and out. that is all your support for now.
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hello there. after a chilly few days, it's been a milder end to the week, and for a while earlier, we had some sunshine for the midlands and eastern parts of england, with temperatures of around eight degrees or so. further west, temperatures were higher, but here we've had more of a breeze, certainly more cloud and some outbreaks of rain earlier on as well. now, that weather front that brought the rain in western areas is pushing its way eastwards. it's weakening all the while. as we head towards the latter part of the evening, well, most of the rain is going to be here in scotland, but even that will tend to move away. we're going to be left with a lot of cloud, though, overnight, still got that southerly breeze as well, so that's certainly going to keep the temperatures up. and by the end of the night, the lowest temperatures of 8—9 degrees will be across the eastern side of the uk. and throughout the weekend, we're going to stick with this mild air stream. it does come with a lot of cloud, mind you. chance of some rain probably
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greater on sunday, but equally, we could see the cloud thinning and breaking at times. not much sunshine, though, i suspect on saturday, may get some breaks in the cloud for north—east scotland, east of the pennines, east of the welsh hills as well. but equally some of these western areas could catch a few spots of rain from time to time. for many of us, it will be a dry day on saturday with a lot of cloud. it's going to be mild everywhere. temperatures continuing to rise across the eastern side of the uk, and typically 12—14 degrees. and those temperatures aren't going to drop very much on saturday night. it will be very mild on saturday night. we've got another weather front bringing some rain in from the west. that will be heading its way into the midlands and eastern parts of england on sunday morning. that cloudy, damp weather could linger in the south—east into the afternoon, but elsewhere we should break up the cloud a bit more, some sunshine, but there will be these bands of showers coming in from the west as well. temperatures aren't changing very much on sunday, so again, it's going to be a mild 12—14 celsius. but things are going to change
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for the beginning of next week. instead of this southerly wind, we're going to find the wind direction changing, a northerly wind moving down, that's going to bring with it some colder air as well. that's going to follow this showery rain that we've got here moving southwards across england and wales. drying off for scotland and northern ireland with some sunshine. also wintry showers over the mountains in the north of scotland, and it is going to feel colder. quite a shock to the system after a few days of mild weather in scotland. could still make double figures, though, in the far south.
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the ayes to the right, 330. the noes to the left, 275. mps take a historic first step towards legalising assisted dying in england and wales. the vote followed five hours of debate that was emotional and impassioned on both sides. let's be clear. we are not talking about a choice between life or death. we are talking about giving dying
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people a choice of how to die. we are the people who protect the most vulnerable in society from harm, and yet we stand on the brink of abandoning that role. outside, there was relief for supporters of the bill, but deep disappointment for opponents. of course i'm gutted. i'm exhausted. i think everybody is, you know, and we just know we have a fight ahead. on a momentous day in westminster, we'll ask what happens next. and also on the programme: polls have just closed in ireland's general election.
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