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government continue. irakli kobakhidze said the president must leave office when her term ends this month. she's restated her refusal to accept the legitimacy of the government. masterchef presenter gregg wallace responds to complaints about his behaviour on the bbc show. hello and welcome. watching bbc news. counting has resumed in ireland's parliamentary election. during the first day of counting, 36 of the 174 seats in the dail or lower house were decided. the first preference votes have so far given the fina gael so far given the fine gael party of the prime minister simon harris 10 seats, with his fianna fail coalition partners and the main opposition sinn fein
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eight seats each. let's speak to our chief presenter caitriona perry, who's in dublin for us. things are farfrom things are far from clear. i can give you an updated total. fianna fail has 15 seats, its coalition partner fine gael has 12 seats, the third coalition partner, the green party has no seats. paying the price, as is traditional, unfortunately, in coalition governments, the smaller party. for its part, sinn fein has ten seats, the social democrats have two, and one seat apiece for solidarity and another, and three for independent ireland. those candidates running in their own name have seven seats so far,
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those independent candidates and smaller parties which will essentially be the kingmakers whichever government comes next, because none of the three big parties will have enough seats to form a majority party on their own, first of all, but evenif on their own, first of all, but even if fianna fail and fine gael even if fianna fail and fine gael, the two big parties in government at the moment, wish to form a coalition government again, they will need the support of some of those smaller parties and or some of those independents as well. i'm joined now by someone from one of those smaller parties, gary gannon, td for the social democrats. you havejust been re—elected in the last few moments yourself, so congratulations. but the social democrats having a great weekend. it looks like you will build on your own seat tally. what do you put down to the reason for that?— reason for that? hard work, effort, reason for that? hard work, effort. shoe _ reason for that? hard work, effort, shoe leather, - reason for that? hard work, effort, shoe leather, not. effort, shoe leather, not deviating from your ideas are not making false promises you can cut — not making false promises you can cut taxation and also
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improve _ can cut taxation and also improve public services. most people — improve public services. most people have heard that story before — people have heard that story before and know how it ends. the _ before and know how it ends. the social— before and know how it ends. the social democrats have brought _ the social democrats have brought an authenticity to politics, and i think that is resonating. we are less than nine — resonating. we are less than nine years— resonating. we are less than nine years in existence and have — nine years in existence and have gone from your doctor right— have gone from your doctor right now _ have gone from your doctor right now looking at a significant number of seats in the irish_ significant number of seats in the irish parliament. —— gone from — the irish parliament. —— gone from year— the irish parliament. —— gone from year dot. 3515 the irish parliament. -- gone from year dot.— the irish parliament. -- gone from year dot. as your campaign artner from year dot. as your campaign partner was _ from year dot. as your campaign partner was not _ from year dot. as your campaign partner was not on _ from year dot. as your campaign partner was not on the _ from year dot. as your campaign partner was not on the trail - from year dot. as your campaign partner was not on the trail in i partner was not on the trail in the last few days because she gave birth to her trail on polling day, so you are really appealing to younger people as well. , ., , appealing to younger people as well. ., well. yes, our party leader holly kearns _ well. yes, our party leader holly kearns has _ well. yes, our party leader holly kearns hasjust - well. yes, our party leader holly kearns hasjust been | holly kearns hasjust been amazing. we want to wish her all the — amazing. we want to wish her all the best. we want to appeal to younger people. that's something we do. we have a strong — something we do. we have a strong social media presence and people use that to define us with. — and people use that to define us with, but we have an incredible ground game as well. you will— incredible ground game as well. you will see people of all ages knocking — you will see people of all ages knocking on doors and believing in our— knocking on doors and believing in our message, because what we are offering is not radical, it is are offering is not radical, it isjusl— are offering is not radical, it
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isjust public services paid for through taxation.- isjust public services paid for through taxation. one of our bi for through taxation. one of your big messages - for through taxation. one of your big messages was - for through taxation. one of your big messages was in i your big messages was in housing, which lots of people stated as the number one reason for voting this time round. yes, it is a poison in the blood _ yes, it is a poison in the blood of— yes, it is a poison in the blood of irish society. we cannot _ blood of irish society. we cannot ensure guards in the streets. _ cannot ensure guards in the streets, teachers and the schools. _ streets, teachers and the schools, we have generations of one family— schools, we have generations of one family living under the same _ one family living under the same roof. we need to deliver a new approach to housing. if fianna _ new approach to housing. if fianna fail and fine gael want to continue with the same old, that— to continue with the same old, that is— to continue with the same old, that is something you can see the impact of. their vote is dropping _ the impact of. their vote is dropping and the social democrats and others of the left are _ democrats and others of the left are improving significantly. if left are improving significantly. left are improving si . nificantl . ,., left are improving sianificantl . ., significantly. if fine gael and fianna fail _ significantly. if fine gael and fianna fail need _ significantly. if fine gael and fianna fail need to _ significantly. if fine gael and fianna fail need to continuel fianna fail need to continue your dell with their government, they will perhaps need to look to yourselves to make up the numbers for a majority. would you be interested in going into government with them? well, the boxes have _ government with them? well, the boxes have not _ government with them? well, the boxes have not been _ government with them? well, the boxes have not been counted - boxes have not been counted 2000 — boxes have not been counted 2000 affordable homes each year. — 2000 affordable homes each year, move toward universal health — year, move toward universal
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health care, public childcare. if health care, public childcare. if they— health care, public childcare. if they were to have a conversation, anyone with a mandate _ conversation, anyone with a mandate should be able to have it. mandate should be able to have it but _ mandate should be able to have it but it — mandate should be able to have it. but it won't be an easy negotiation. i have seen what happens _ negotiation. i have seen what happens to my community, for e>
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see one candidate that looks like might get a seat today is gerard hutch, who the central criminal court has said is involved in criminal activities attached to the hutch gangland family. what is your view on the fact he may be elected a td, a member of the irish parliament? i td, a member of the irish parliament?— td, a member of the irish parliament? ~ , parliament? i think it took us all by surprise _ parliament? i think it took us all by surprise in _ parliament? i think it took us all by surprise in the - parliament? i think it took us all by surprise in the early . all by surprise in the early stages _ all by surprise in the early stages of the campaign, but i don't — stages of the campaign, but i don't want to individualise it to a — don't want to individualise it to a candidate, because that would — to a candidate, because that would take the headline story. ithink— would take the headline story. i think the issues are far deeper _ i think the issues are far deeper. your own listeners can probably— deeper. your own listeners can probably recognise it in brexit. _ probably recognise it in brexit, for example. the communities most impacted by what _ communities most impacted by what will— communities most impacted by what will come next will vote against — what will come next will vote against their interests. asking them — against their interests. asking them to— against their interests. asking them to stay the same is cruel and unjust. this is a manifestation of communities left behind reaching out into the dark— left behind reaching out into the dark for options we might not otherwise have considered that i— not otherwise have considered that i think it's a reflection
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of poverty, the housing choices, _ of poverty, the housing choices, all of that captured in a — choices, all of that captured in a cry— choices, all of that captured in a cry for— choices, all of that captured in a cry for help for communities that shows up in strange — communities that shows up in strange ways, and this is one of them _ strange ways, and this is one of them. ,., , strange ways, and this is one of them. , ., , strange ways, and this is one ofthem. , ., , ., of them. gary gannon, td for the social— of them. gary gannon, td for the social democrats, - of them. gary gannon, td for the social democrats, thanksj the social democrats, thanks for speaking to was on bbc news and congratulations on your real once again. counting is still continuing across ireland, as we said there. about a third or so of seats have currently been filled. we will have a good idea by the end of today, but it looks like we will head into monday as well, and as you heard gary gannon say there, the difficult business of forming government, holding those negotiation talks will take place. will it happen before christmas? that is anyone's guess at this point. i hope your voice can hold up for the amount of time it will take to get a result so we can talk to you about it! thank you very much. caitriona perry. let's get more on sir keir starmer setting out his "plan
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for change" explaining how the government intends to deliver on the promises labour made ahead of the election. in a speech later this week, the prime minister will announce a number of "milestones" to be achieved before the end of this parliament which he says will drive "real improvements in the lives of working people." our political correspondent has more. i think we can essentially expect targets for the government to be measured against for its key priorities, and i think before the election we heard from labour about what they call their five missions, that they are quite sprawling, they can be a bit intangible, things like breaking down barriers to opportunity or building an nhs fit for the future, and what the prime ministers trying to do this week is i suppose but specific milestones and targets the public canjudge them milestones and targets the public can judge them by, milestones and targets the public canjudge them by, i suppose, by the time of the next election. the chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, pat mcfadden, was on the laura kuenssberg show this morning explaining what they would be
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doing. explaining what they would be doinu. . , explaining what they would be doinu. ., , ., doing. targets for net migration _ doing. targets for net migration haven't - doing. targets for net - migration haven't worked very well— migration haven't worked very well in — migration haven't worked very well in the country, numerical ones — well in the country, numerical ones. well in the country, numerical ones, well in the country, numerical ones. ., well in the country, numerical ones. , ., ., ., well in the country, numerical ones. ., ., ., ones. so you will not have one? you might _ ones. so you will not have one? you might remember— ones. so you will not have one? you might remember david - you might remember david cameron has micro target to reduce — cameron has micro target to reduce net migration to the tens— reduce net migration to the tens of— reduce net migration to the tens of thousands. it has gone up tens of thousands. it has gone up an— tens of thousands. it has gone up an awful lot in recent years _ up an awful lot in recent years. we want to bring it down, _ years. we want to bring it down, but the exact number you need _ down, but the exact number you need will— down, but the exact number you need will always ebb and flow depending on the needs of the economy. 50 depending on the needs of the econom . y ., depending on the needs of the economy-— depending on the needs of the econom . , ., ., ., ., economy. so you will not have a taraet? economy. so you will not have a target? we _ economy. so you will not have a target? we will _ economy. so you will not have a target? we will not _ economy. so you will not have a target? we will not have - economy. so you will not have a target? we will not have a - target? we will not have a numerical _ target? we will not have a numerical target - target? we will not have a numerical target for - target? we will not have a numerical target for net i numerical target for net migration, but we will make sure — migration, but we will make sure we _ migration, but we will make sure we do more to train our own— sure we do more to train our own workforce. so. _ own workforce. so, no numericaltarget, pat mcfadden said, for migration, but he did say they wanted to bring numbers down. we can expect targets on hospital waiting lists and house—building, and also on early years education, the government saying they want to increase the proportion particularly of four—year—olds and five—year—olds who are fully ready for the start of school, socially as well as educationally. at the moment, they say to 60% and they want it to be 75%. a very specific
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target there, not a numerical one on immigration. and target there, not a numerical one on immigration.- target there, not a numerical one on immigration. and we have heard from _ one on immigration. and we have heard from the _ one on immigration. and we have heard from the conservatives - heard from the conservatives this morning?— heard from the conservatives this morning? they describe it as keir starmer's _ this morning? they describe it as keir starmer's 17 _ this morning? they describe it as keir starmer's 17 to - as keir starmer's 17 to relaunch and say people will quite rightly wonder why they have been short—changed by the party that have had them changed. downing street see it as a party, not a relaunch, but victoria adkins also spoke to the laura kuenssberg programme. they are not setting out any firm — they are not setting out any firm plans for change. what i am concerned about... we have had pre—briefs, for example, we know— had pre—briefs, for example, we know the — had pre—briefs, for example, we know the government is opening more _ know the government is opening more hotels across the country, focusing — more hotels across the country, focusing on the 1532 00:10:41,511 --> 00:10:
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