tv The Context BBC News December 5, 2024 8:30pm-9:01pm GMT
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you're watching the context on bbc news. how could ai transform the music industry — how it's made and how we listen to it. we'll have a close look in al decoded. our regular look at the world of ai and all of the regular developments of the week coming up developments of the week coming up shortly but let's get all of the sport with the bbc sportscenter. we start with the evening's football — and two more matches in this midweek round of premier league games to bring you. fulham are taking on brighton — with spurs at bournemouth. we're into the second half of the fulham —
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brighton match at craven cottage. currently 1—0. and it's alex iwobi who gave the home side the lead. brighton could go above man city into fourth, if they can turn things around. and not long gone, between bournemouth — spurs. a leader kick off there and it is currently goalless. and we've had the draw for the club world cup taking place in miami — with the new—look tournament taking place in united states next summer. champions manchester city and chelsea represent the premier league. 8 groups consisting of four teams with city drawn against juventus, morocco�*s wydad ac and al ain of the uae — the abu dhabi club's president being sheikh mohammed, the brother of city owner sheikh mansour. chelsea face brazilian side flamengo, mexico's club leon, tunisian champions esperance sportive de tunis. all the other groups — featuring teams like bayern, ps6 and real madrid — are on the bbc sport website. the title might be decided, but there's still been controversy ahead of the final f1 race of the season with mercedes driver george russell telling media in abu dhabi, that now four time world champion
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max verstappen is a bully that needs standing up to. and, that he's allowed to get away with too much. tensions have been increasing throughout the season between verstappen and his rivals. this follows an incident during the last grand prix in qatar, when the red bull driver was penalised for slowing down too much in qualifying. much in qualifying, blocking russell. verstappen later said he'd lost all respect for the british driver and called him two—faced. today though, russell claimed verstappen also told him after the session that he would deliberately crash into him. three—time olympic dressage gold medallist — charlotte dujardin — has been suspended from all competition for one year following a horse whipping controversy that saw her withdraw from the paris games. a video was released injuly showing what she described as "an error ofjudgment" during a coaching session. laura scott has more. the fbi which is across sports world governing body received a video representing an anonymous
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whistle—blower showing her whipping a horse more than 20 times during a coaching session at her private stables at the time she said she was deeply ashamed of the incident which had been filmed some years earlier and she withdrew from the olympics and has since lost sponsors, funding and some of her horses. in the statement she apologised again saying, i understand the responsibility that comes with my position in the sport and i will forever aim to do better. should you wish to return to the sport there will be challenges that but the rebuilding her reputation about the fall from grace for the golden girl of british distraught has had broader ramifications for not just her future because there are fears to what damage it has caused to public trust in the sport. england take on new zealand for the second test in their three—match series later after victory in the first test in christchurch by eight wickets, england have opted not to change a winning formula, with 0llie pope to remain stand—in wicketkeeper — and jacob bethell batting at number three.
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0ur cricket reporter henry moeran says it's a series where the new boys have impressed. they have so many positives from that first test match not least of number of players that one year ago had never even tasted test cricket really did perform well, all offering very valuable contributions but also the likes of ben stokes showing they still have plenty in the tank when it comes to performing for england particularly in the case of quotes overseas so i think a lot of positives, the one caveat in this is the last five overseas test series england have won the opening test match but have only gone on to win one of the series so we have seen them start greatly but the question is whether they can carry that on. question is whether they can carry that om— question is whether they can carry that on. born with a 1-0 u . carry that on. born with a 1-0 up against — carry that on. born with a 1-0 up against the _ carry that on. born with a 1-0 up against the football - carry that on. born with a 1-0 up against the football on - carry that on. born with a 1-0j up against the football on the bbc sport website —— bournemouth. you are watching the context. now, it's time for al decoded.
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welcome to ai decoded, that time of the week when we look in—depth at some of the most eye catching stories in the world of artificial intellligence. now the growing use of artificial intelligence in the creative industries has been described as an �*existential threat�* to jobs and artistic integrity. but is that the whole story? could ai have the potential to transform the music industry by unleashing ai—powered tools to help musicians to write, record, and mix music more efficiently? the guardian reports that people working in the music sector will lose almost a quarter of their income to artificial intelligence within the next four years. that's according to the first global economic study examining the impact of al on human creativity. meanwhile, music business worldwide says bertelsmann, the parent company of music giant bmg, has formed a new partnership with al startup elevenlabs to explore ai—generated voice and music. the collaboration will focus — it says — on integrating
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elevenlabs�*s ai technologies into media production processes across bertelsmann's businesses. the world's most valuable ai chip maker nvidia says its new ai music editor can create "sounds never heard before". the tool, called fugatto, is capable of generating music, sounds, and speech using text and audio inputs it's never been trained on. and what about al music in africa? many african artists and industry professionals are excited about the possibilities the tech might offer. however while many are happy to experiment with arttificial however while many are happy to experiment with al, some see it as a threat to african culture. with me now is crispin hunt, director of the performing rights society and our regular ai commentator and presenter, stephanie hare. good to have you both here. stephanie let's start with those numbers in that report. they are astonishing suggesting a quarter of people working in
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the music sector will lose their income within four years. we are not talking about a decade or two we are saying for years. decade or two we are saying for ears. , , ., , decade or two we are saying for ears. h. , years. this is a very powerful counterargument _ years. this is a very powerful counterargument to - years. this is a very powerful counterargument to the - counterargument to the narrative we often hear from people in silicon valley which says, ai will not replace jobs, it was just automate the stuff we don't want to do in added values so you can focus on higher value tasks. well tell it to these artists.— it to these artists. that is the change _ it to these artists. that is the change because - it to these artists. that is the change because you i it to these artists. that is . the change because you look it to these artists. that is - the change because you look at the change because you look at the numbers and it is the breakdown and it is quite simple correlation, that the artist in creators are losing money and biz —— big businesses gaining money the money is moving into another area? it is moving into another area? it is very much _ moving into another area? it is very much the _ moving into another area? it is very much the problem that the world _ very much the problem that the world is— very much the problem that the world is facing with technology whether— world is facing with technology whether it is the transfer of value — whether it is the transfer of value from human creativity into — value from human creativity into large tech companies. the tech _ into large tech companies. the tech companies for them ai is an extraordinary thing and to their— an extraordinary thing and to their artists are not exploiting at all technology,
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they — exploiting at all technology, they are exploiting exportation by technology. there is a significant difference. all of the creative industries are asking _ the creative industries are asking for with technology companies is the new ai technologies could not exist without _ technologies could not exist without the work of human creativity and they are trained on creativity and there is plenty _ on creativity and there is plenty of examples where it is perfectly obvious the origin of some — perfectly obvious the origin of some of— perfectly obvious the origin of some of the ai output so it should _ some of the ai output so it should be a collaboration, it should — should be a collaboration, it should be a collaboration, it should be the same as if you open — should be the same as if you open a — should be the same as if you open a shoe shop, you have to pay the — open a shoe shop, you have to pay the shoemaker or you work with— pay the shoemaker or you work with the — pay the shoemaker or you work with the shoemakers. it is part of an— with the shoemakers. it is part of an ecosystem and that is all ithink— of an ecosystem and that is all i think the _ of an ecosystem and that is all i think the industry is asking for is — i think the industry is asking for is some transparency, some respect — for is some transparency, some respect for— for is some transparency, some respect for human creativity and openness about the use — creativity and openness about the use of other peoples work.
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that— the use of other peoples work. that is— the use of other peoples work. that is inherently the problem, is it not because he says it is about recognition of who has created the work and therefore who is entitled to be paid for and it is getting harder to determine where that work originated given ai can change it and it is hard to trace back to a source? possession is nine tenths of the law we have seen all of the ai companies take peoples work and scrape the internet and taking content that normally would be protected by copyright law so losses have been filed, but the law is a slow process. and while the technology has been taken to advantage and by the time the law cases are up it will probably be next year and we get some of the first results, the genie is already of the bottle and the milk has been spilt, so what will be doing that is the question. how doing that is the question. how do we recognise and compensate artists for their existing creations and they want to do next. it is a two—part problem. i think it is quite possible for al _
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i think it is quite possible for al companies to show and there — for al companies to show and there are _ for al companies to show and there are a few ai music companies i won't mention them here, _ companies i won't mention them here, but— companies i won't mention them here, but are showing the providence of the work that the output — providence of the work that the output shows on it and interestingly, it's not actually that many songs that io actually that many songs that go into— actually that many songs that go into it. you will have a new collage — go into it. you will have a new collage that sounds like a new piece — collage that sounds like a new piece of— collage that sounds like a new piece of work but actually only comes— piece of work but actually only comes from 100 other previous works. — comes from 100 other previous works. its _ comes from 100 other previous works, it's quite possible for these — works, it's quite possible for these technology companies to say where, which bits of the past — say where, which bits of the past that— say where, which bits of the past that they borrowed in order— past that they borrowed in order to _ past that they borrowed in order to create something new. but they— order to create something new. but they don't do it because it is expensive. but lots of things— is expensive. but lots of things are expensive, putting the car— things are expensive, putting the car industry it was expensive for them to buy catalytic converters into cars but they— catalytic converters into cars but they had to do it because it was— but they had to do it because it was harming the future of humanity and i think in the same — humanity and i think in the same respect, with a little bit of regulation, there needs to
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be regulation here. we need to create — be regulation here. we need to create a — be regulation here. we need to create a balance between human creativity— create a balance between human creativity and the future of human _ creativity and the future of human creativity and the benefits of ai and new technology, technology as a tool — technology, technology as a tool is — technology, technology as a tool is a _ technology, technology as a tool is a wonderful thing. a piano — tool is a wonderful thing. a piano is _ tool is a wonderful thing. a piano is a _ tool is a wonderful thing. a piano is a tool, to that extent musicians _ piano is a tool, to that extent musicians have always used technology to its fullest extent. this will create an extraordinary new scenarios of different — extraordinary new scenarios of different types of music that we have _ different types of music that we have never experienced before _ we have never experienced before and that is wonderful, but it— before and that is wonderful, but it is— before and that is wonderful, but it is also a collaboration with— but it is also a collaboration with the _ but it is also a collaboration with the people that the ai collages. with the people that the ai colla . es. ., with the people that the ai collaues. ., . ~' with the people that the ai collaues. ., . ,, ., collages. you talk about strikina collages. you talk about striking the _ collages. you talk about striking the right - collages. you talk about | striking the right balance collages. you talk about. striking the right balance of regulation, what does good regulation, what does good regulation look like here? the report is clear singling out australia and new zealand save those governments are leading the way in shaping policies to safeguard creators in this —— in the face of generation ai,
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what are they doing different? you have to work with artists because artists are not necessarily wanting rules that will constrain them any than technologists are and they are often more similar that i think people realise, but it is about how we create respect and models so that you would have a's shared data trust governance model so it is co—owned and you create new things and we talked a few weeks ago with the germany special when we interviewed holly who have a exhibit here in london who took 15 choirs and put all of their voices together in all of the music together, every aspect of the entire ai project that ends up in the serpentine gallery is considered a work of art and it is also a new model for data ownership the other musicians can follow. ownership the other musicians can follow— can follow. that is the key thin , can follow. that is the key thing. it — can follow. that is the key thing. it is _ can follow. that is the key thing, it is in _ can follow. that is the key thing, it is in a _ can follow. that is the key thing, it is in a gallery, i can follow. that is the key thing, it is in a gallery, a l thing, it is in a gallery, a work of art, not a thing of science fiction. a business worldwide, bertelsmann the
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parent company of bmg say they have this new partnership to explore ai generating voice and music. what does that mean, put that into english for us, what is that collaboration? i’m that into english for us, what is that collaboration? i'm very interested _ is that collaboration? i'm very interested in _ is that collaboration? i'm very interested in bertelsmann - is that collaboration? i'm very i interested in bertelsmann group and their— interested in bertelsmann group and their ai collaboration and bertelsmann own bmg hue are very good record label and very good _ very good record label and very good music publisher and the whole — good music publisher and the whole of— good music publisher and the whole of the bertelsmann group they also do books and etc, they— they also do books and etc, they have built their entire industry— they have built their entire industry on the benefit of hurnan— industry on the benefit of human creativity and i imagine that when _ human creativity and i imagine that when they are going into partnership with an ai company that they— partnership with an ai company that they will have put in place _ that they will have put in place necessary, what's the word, — place necessary, what's the word, compensation for the artists— word, compensation for the artists whose work has gone with— artists whose work has gone with it — artists whose work has gone with it because that is their
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business. but this looks like a really— business. but this looks like a really interesting prospect and it looks — really interesting prospect and it looks like it is mostly to improve _ it looks like it is mostly to improve productivity. some of it is able to — improve productivity. some of it is able to double _ improve productivity. some of it is able to double up - improve productivity. some of it is able to double up movies| it is able to double up movies or other things with al
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