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with just minutes to go, rangers had a chance to win it... ..but the spurs keeper was equal to the shot. a draw might not please the fans, or the managers, but it certainly eases the pressure on them both. ange postecoglou shook his head as he walked off the pitch at ibrox. not how the former celtic manager wanted his return to glasgow to go, and the pressure is heaped upon him because tottenham now go back to london with just one win in eight games. rangers, on the other hand, may feel they should have won that match, but their attention now turn to domestic matters because they are in the final of the scottish league cup on sunday and they play celtic. and if you want to continue watching the bbc news at ten, please turn over to bbc one or you can watch on iplayer. next, it's newsnight.
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reset. as the prime minister's plan for close up post—brexit relations with the european union more far—reaching than we thought? flashbacks to the brexit years, as starmer meets the eu council president. what is really happening behind the scenes? and an interview
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by the bbc, we speak to harshita brella's parents. she was murdered and her body left in a car boot in east london. they say harshita brella feared her husband, now on the run, would kill her. good evening. this is newsnight, brought to you live every weeknight from broadcasting house with the best insights and interviews. our panel tonight: the former chancellor kwasi kwarteng and former labour minister margaret hodge, this week appointed labour's anti—corruption tsar. and nick is here, of course. later, that exclusive interview for newsnight from new delhi with the parents of murdered harshita brella.
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translation: please give my daughter “ustice. translation: please give my daughter 'ustice. i translation: please give my daughter justice- i cannot— translation: please give my daughter justice. i cannot go _ translation: please give my daughter justice. i cannot go to _ translation: please give my daughter justice. i cannot go to the _ translation: please give my daughter justice. i cannot go to the uk _ justice. i cannot go to the uk myself, but through you, my voice can. but first, a post—brexit reset, with the prime minister meeting the new european council president at number 10, a foreign minister meeting his counterparts in berlin, and all this in the same week that the chancellor met her counterparts in brussels. something is cooking, even as lips remained sealed, but businesses and some diplomats now believe what is planned could be far more far—reaching than widely expected, with almost single market status for food and farm exports and perhaps some goods too, and some bartering over fish stocks and youth exchanges. nick, what happened today and what's going on? well, as you say, ambitions for a big reset, and let'sjust take a look at this. barely two weeks in thejob, and there look at this. barely two weeks in the job, and there you look at this. barely two weeks in thejob, and there you are, antonio koster, the new european council president, in numberten koster, the new european council president, in number ten with keir starmer. quite handy for the uk when
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a former portuguese prime minister has a top eu job. portuguese is of course the uk's oldest ally. —— portugal. an early step in the reset, but there are two core elements. you have some interesting intelligence in a moment from what is happening behind the scene is. so, those two core elements. number one, keir starmer�*s red lines. they are still in place. no membership of the single market, the customs union, and no to freedom of movement. the second element is, let's have a conversation with the eu about deepening relations and security, that is defence, safety of citizens, that is law enforcement, and finally on trade. so why don't wejust look at how and finally on trade. so why don't we just look at how this reset will pan out over the next 18 months? if we look at the top there, keir starmer has accepted an invitation to attend an informal retreat of eu leaders in brussels early february on defence. the significance of that is, keir starmerthinks
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on defence. the significance of that is, keir starmer thinks because the uk is one of the defence giants in europe, we have got a big offer, and the idea is, that challenges the puritan, the european commission, who see if you want a lot of sovereignty, you can't have a lot of access to our markets, and then early in the new year, there will be the first uk — eu summit. that early in the new year, there will be the first uk - eu summit.— the first uk - eu summit. that is interesting. _ the first uk - eu summit. that is interesting, because _ the first uk - eu summit. that is interesting, because that - the first uk - eu summit. that is interesting, because that could l the first uk - eu summit. that is| interesting, because that could be as early as march, and in that, what i am hearing as early as march, and in that, what iam hearing is, because as early as march, and in that, what i am hearing is, because there is a lot about what they don't want, but they will have to start talking right now about what they do want to diplomats and to business. some suggestion that we could get from that a joint political declaration and a mandate from the eu from their 27 members, and then a sort of negotiation that is across a series of issues, whether that is access to trade, a veterinary deal, perhaps goods alignment too, but also what the eu want to put on the table, which is things like fisheries in some sort of youth exchange programme. but it sounds a little bit like the 2018 type of process
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that we thought was ongoing. and interesting that the uk want to get a move on, because they want to get a move on, because they want to get ahead of the state, january the 1st, get ahead of the state, january the ist, 2026, get ahead of the state, january the 1st, 2026, when you have the start of the first five yearly review of the implementation of the trade and cooperation agreement which governs our relationship with the eu. and then 30th ofjune 2026, that is the end of the uk— eu transitional deal on access to fishing waters. what happens with fishing waters? always a row, always tricky. we saw the european council president inside number ten with the prime minister. as he arrived, our colleague from gb news, christopher hope, had some for him. you'll reset the _ relationship with europe? what's the plan? very good to see you. bring back freedom of - movement, prime minister?
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margaret and kwasi join me. margaret, your government says no return to the single market, customs union or freedom of return to the single market, customs union orfreedom of movement, but may be some parts could be on the cards? i may be some parts could be on the cards? ., . ~ may be some parts could be on the cards? ., , ~ ., , cards? i was thinking of putting country first — cards? i was thinking of putting country first and _ cards? i was thinking of putting country first and not _ cards? i was thinking of putting country first and not party - cards? i was thinking of puttingj country first and not party first, and really. _ country first and not party first, and really, this is it in practice. there _ and really, this is it in practice. there are — and really, this is it in practice. there are so _ and really, this is it in practice. there are so many issues where we need _ there are so many issues where we need to— there are so many issues where we need to he — there are so many issues where we need to be closer to europe stop there _ need to be closer to europe stop there as — need to be closer to europe stop there as the trade, economy, and plenty— there as the trade, economy, and plenty of— there as the trade, economy, and plenty of evidence from plenty of academics demonstrating the impact of brexit on our trade.— of brexit on our trade. maybe on the noods and of brexit on our trade. maybe on the goods and services _ of brexit on our trade. maybe on the goods and services trades, - of brexit on our trade. maybe on the goods and services trades, we - of brexit on our trade. maybe on the goods and services trades, we seem| goods and services trades, we seem to be doing quite well? it goods and services trades, we seem to be doing quite well?— to be doing quite well? it is both. if ou add to be doing quite well? it is both. if you add them _ to be doing quite well? it is both. if you add them together, - to be doing quite well? it is both. if you add them together, they i to be doing quite well? it is both. | if you add them together, they are well over_ if you add them together, they are well over 40%, so the figures i have seen, _ well over 40%, so the figures i have seen. over_ well over 40%, so the figures i have seen, over40% well over 40%, so the figures i have seen, over 40% of the trade, our exports, — seen, over 40% of the trade, our exports, go — seen, over 40% of the trade, our exports, go to europe, so there is all that _ exports, go to europe, so there is all that. there is security, which you touched on. i would say there is migration, _ you touched on. i would say there is migration, also, trying to deal with illegal— migration, also, trying to deal with illegal migrants and stop the trade in migrants coming over, so there is
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a huge _ in migrants coming over, so there is a huge agenda, where if we can work together, _ a huge agenda, where if we can work together, which is better, and then, of course, _ together, which is better, and then, of course, there is the changing politics— of course, there is the changing politics with america and what is happening in the world wide, whether you are _ happening in the world wide, whether you are talking about ukraine or russia, — you are talking about ukraine or russia, att— you are talking about ukraine or russia, all of that draws us into, for the _ russia, all of that draws us into, for the security of britain, not for the good — for the security of britain, not for the good of the party, actually getting — the good of the party, actually getting closer to europe. in principle, kwasi, are you or your party in favour of bringing down some of the trade barriers which inevitably resulted from the single market withdrawal? i inevitably resulted from the single market withdrawal?— market withdrawal? i have always been a fan — market withdrawal? i have always been a fan of _ market withdrawal? i have always been a fan of trade, _ market withdrawal? i have always been a fan of trade, and - market withdrawal? i have always been a fan of trade, and i - market withdrawal? i have always been a fan of trade, and i know. been a fan of trade, and i know margaret hasn't peddled this, but there is an idea out there that somehow our economic fortunes would be so much better if we were in the eu. that is for the birds, because if you look at the two biggest countries in the eu, both france and germany, they have all been in the eu for 60 years and their economies are struggling. they are not doing much better than ours. they are flatlining. the challenges that they face are the same as ours, but whether we were in the eu are
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outside, we have still got to confront the prospect of mass migration, the fact that we have had very little productivity gains and very little productivity gains and very little productivity gains and very little economic growth, and that is a pan—european problem. that is not being solved by being in the eu or out of it. but is not being solved by being in the eu or out of it.— eu or out of it. but there is a sort of middle — eu or out of it. but there is a sort of middle ground _ eu or out of it. but there is a sort of middle ground here _ eu or out of it. but there is a sort of middle ground here where - eu or out of it. but there is a sort of middle ground here where you| of middle ground here where you could deal with some of the goods... i suppose some in your party don't acknowledge that the brexit deal did inevitably create goods trade barriers. you could negotiate that. there is a general acceptance now our gdp _ there is a general acceptance now our gdp will be 4% less than it would — our gdp will be 4% less than it would otherwise be because of brexit — would otherwise be because of brexit. we are not going to turn the clock back, — brexit. we are not going to turn the clock back, but you have got to accept — clock back, but you have got to accept that. that means we have to loosen _ accept that. that means we have to loosen the — accept that. that means we have to loosen the trade up, and no one is denying _ loosen the trade up, and no one is denying all— loosen the trade up, and no one is denying all the other factors which are challenging the economy, which we also _ are challenging the economy, which we also have to deal with, but actually, — we also have to deal with, but actually, getting out of europe really — actually, getting out of europe really damaged living standards for people _ really damaged living standards for people. this really damaged living standards for
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. eo . le, , , ., ., really damaged living standards for --eole. , ., ., really damaged living standards for --eole. . ., ., ., people. this debate will go on for decades, people. this debate will go on for decades. l'm _ people. this debate will go on for decades, i'm sure, _ people. this debate will go on for decades, i'm sure, but— people. this debate will go on for decades, i'm sure, but if- people. this debate will go on for decades, i'm sure, but if you - decades, i'm sure, but if you actually look at the figures, france and germany have not grown faster than we have over the last eight years. that is simply not the case, and these are the two biggest economies. and these are the two biggest economies— and these are the two biggest economies. ,, ,, , ., economies. sure. spain is doing, re economies. sure. spain is doing, pretty well. _ economies. sure. spain is doing, pretty well, though... _ pretty well, though... and we trade statistics... the timeframe... the - timeframe... the issue is specific trade barriers have been created, for some small businesses in particular, in food and fish exports... i agree. oyster trading, for example. i know it is pretty niche, but these were traders given promises during the brexit campaign who find it difficult to export to europe. there is an option to do something. it would require some alignment. do you think your party can have that conversation? taste think your party can have that conversation?— think your party can have that conversation? we are having a conversation — conversation? we are having a conversation and _ conversation? we are having a conversation and we _ conversation? we are having a conversation and we want - conversation? we are having a conversation and we want to l conversation? we are having a - conversation and we want to engage productively with european partners, of course. you productively with european partners, of course. ., ., �* , productively with european partners, ofcourse. ., , ,. . of course. you won't be screaming sell-out, of course. you won't be screaming sell-out. this _ of course. you won't be screaming sell-out, this is _ of course. you won't be screaming sell-out, this is rolling _ of course. you won't be screaming sell-out, this is rolling back- brexit? we have got to see what the deal is.
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but you can entertain intellectually the idea of closer relationships, some rule taking to get rid of trade barriers? i some rule taking to get rid of trade barriers? .. some rule taking to get rid of trade barriers? . ., ., ._ ., , barriers? i am going to say on this as we are tinkering _ barriers? i am going to say on this as we are tinkering around. - as we are tinkering around. margaret, the social democrats in germany, the political situation in france, all across europe we are dealing with the same problem of low productivity and lower economic growth. you look at the figures, the us and
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