officials in kazakhstan say 38 passengers were killed in the crash landing of an azerbaijan airlines flight. president zelensky condemns russia's mass missile and drone attack against ukraine on christmas day as inhumane. now on bbc news, the interview: kylie minogue. # lights, camera, action # that's it.# kylie minogue has spent almost a0 years in the spotlight. charlene! from her early days in overalls on the australian soap opera neighbours... # padam, padam i hear itand i know... # ..to creating padam padam pandemonium on social media. # i know you wanna take me home. # and she shows no signs of slowing down. # i'm two seconds away... # ..with her 17th album, tension ii, and her biggest world tour in a decade. ..with her 17th album, tension ii, and her biggest world tour in a decade.

hi! nice to see you. you too! how you doing? good. how are you? i'm all right. grab a seat. i caught up with kylie in an occasionally noisy hotel room... let's. .. here we go. horn blares we are in london, folks. ..to talk about the not—so—glamorous backstage realities of touring... what happens in quick change stays in quick change. ..her downtime wardrobe choices... 50 shades of comfortable. ..and, of course, her life in music. there's so much that's happened in my life that 8—year—old, 12—year old, 20—year—old me would not have been able to even compute. # lights, camera, action that's it...# 50 lights, i cameras... action! that's it. ha—ha! thanks!

# lights, camera, action, that's it.# kylie minogue. hi. how are you? i'm good. we have a new album, tension ii, the sequel. yeah. more tension. i've never... do you know what? i haven't had a sequel before. # i look stellar tonight...# in pop, you're supposed to reinvent yourself with every album, but you're extending this era that began with padam padam. i'm really stretching it out! yeah. # padam padam # i knowyou want to take...# what it definitely was the first viral hit that i've had. yeah. is that weird? more than weird. i'd just say it was wonderful. # padam padam...# kind of as fast as i could scroll, it felt like there's a new meme and there's... and people's creativity blew my mind. # padam, and get to know me close # padam padam...# that, in itself, has opened so many doors and, you know, being played on different radio stations and... you got a grammy. ..then the whole kind of... and a grammy! yeah. it's crazy. # you look like fun to me...# i think after padam and tension, lots of good songs came to me

and i couldn't say no. enjoying this sound while it's... while you still can. yeah, yeah. padam and tension led... just opened a lot of doors for me. and i really look at it like... not that i'm a surfer, but i have caught a wave once in my life. i was on a longboard, it was slow, it was steady, and ijust remember i had to kind of look where i was going, but remember to look up. and that's how i feel about this, where i currently am at, it's like... it's exhausting, paddling and missing a wave, so to have caught this wave, i really want to ride it and enjoy the view at the same time. you've been very lucky because you've caught a lot of waves in your career. sometimes that paddling doesn't go anywhere. i've taken a few stacks as well, i reckon! i've been... i've been dumped a few

times by some waves.

do you see yourself as a singer or an actress? what do you want to be? both. do you see yourself as a singer or an actress? what do you want to be? both. but eventually you're going to have to come down and decide to be one thing or the other. well, eventually... you see, pop singing and being a hit—maker, that can't last as long as being an actress, can it? no, true. i guess with acting you can only keep on learning and developing new skills. so i really don't know. i can only sort of think a week ahead. # go, go, go, go... l go, greased lightning # you-e— burning up the quartermile...# because i know you and your brother and sister used to perform greased lightning in the front room. we would do that. # da—da—da—da—da—da—da—da # greased lightning! go, greased lightning.# the same front room where the record player was, so we could do that along to the vinyl, i played...| played donna summer, bad girls a lot. # now, don't you ask yourself # who they are...# oh, yeah? which is possibly a bit extreme for, like, a nine—year—old. # they come

from nearand far...# it was my parents' record collection. and then we moved house and, in a different house, like, again, remember where the record player was and the excitement of getting, like, the jacksons, or whatever it was, that was like the back of the house and that's where i started to learn piano. because you knew piano, and you played flute as well. i did a year of flute at school. could you still play it now? i reckon... i mean, i can make the sound. i'd still have to... i do know this much — when people go, "you play the flute." i'm like, "mm—mm, it's this way!" # the locomotion the locomotion # everybody�*s doing a brand—new dance now # come on, baby, do the locomotion...# at the start of your career, people were pretty mean about... at times, yes. ..about your singing voice and about all sorts of stuff. it wasn't cool people were... ..some of them were as nasty as they were. and especially... and that's not some kind of invisible person behind a keyboard.

this is... you know, these were... these were journalists with bylines. these were grown adults who kind of should've known better. so...yeah, it's unfortunate, but that was then and here we are now. # i should be so lucky so lucky, so lucky, so lucky # i should be so lucky # i, i, i, i...# one of the blessings is that i was just... i had ajob and i had responsibilities and i had to show up to work. there were definitely times where i would have liked to just... ..hide, but it's quite good if you... ..you have that responsibility and you have to show up and then you're distracted by other things. # i've had my share of hearts broken # and i don't want to take that any more...# i am really proud of the experience that i have now, like, the tool box i have.

and, you know, sometimes against the current that felt like it was going against you. i've said against twice, but, you know, trying to get upstream when it's. .. yeah. to go back to that surfing metaphor, to get back on the board after you've wiped out. yeah. i don't think you ever wiped out. not wiped out, no. butjust, you know, had to kind of shake yourself off and go, "i'm paddling again!" yeah. #i,i # i'm wondering why #i still love you #je ne sais pas pourquoi...# 1987, you know, all the way through, probably to the early 20005, pop was still treated as a kind of a lesser form of music. mm. it takes people like you and madonna to change the narrative on that. you're part of that shift to pop being taken seriously. yeah.

were you aware of that? maybe not at the time that i was part of that. but i was just, you know... it's like going from the days of neighbours — here's your script, here's what you do, there's no there's no time... like, red light�*s on, go, and think about the consequences later. and i'm still kind of programmed like that. # better the devil you know...# um, but, you know, isn't it great that currently there's so many amazing pop acts? let me talk about the album. it's called tension. i believe that your brother taught you a technique for relieving tension. my brother?! called the "pfft technique". oh, yeah. the pfuffer valve. yeah. that's it! i forgot about that. # i'm two seconds away # i'm rightaround the corner now...# i don't know, when all kind of reaches a head, and it'sjust... the emotions have got to come out, or you've got

to have a big cry or a moan or, i don't know, just... yeah, it's just like just, "tsssssh." like, "tsssh." yeah. like on a kettle or something — tsssh. that's the pfuffer valve. yeah. you just let it all out. your shoulders drop. yeah. it's like, "oh, ifeel so much better." yeah. # we're a million miles apart in a thousand ways...# self—recording has changed everything for me. and that's something you started on the disco album? yeah. during lockdown. at my kitchen bench going... she exhales ..�*come on." like, "there's eight—year—olds doing this in their bedroom. you... "you've got to be able to do it." but it's interesting how much it's changed for me. # oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah...# when you record vocals by yourself in your house, does that free you up? are you able to perform in a different way than you would in a studio full of engineers and producers? yeah. and i... it's not a regret, but i would

have loved it if someone had suggested that to me a long time ago. i used tojust be... like, only really have a microphone in the studio or at a sound check or doing a show, and it was kind of like this... i mean, i love it. it's like it's almost like your power as well. but to spend so much time with my microphone and my voice and what happens with the microphone, it's just. . . it's honestly, like, opened this portal of understanding and ownership of it and being less afraid. and so when i'm recording myself... i can annoy myself because i do... i just do so many takes. i go on and on and on. i mean, i've recorded in really weird places, so many kind of side tables of hotel rooms. it's quite freeing, isn't it? i can record at three in the morning, eight in the morning. "you need that? sure, i'll send it to you."

so it'sjust been brilliant. the edge of saturday night, which is a track on this new album, that you made with the blessed madonna. you said that was the hardest vocal you've ever had to record. often if there's... if it's a demo that's come through and there's another voice, sometimes the voice is... sometimes it's weird. ikind of... i like the sound of the demo, so i try to mimic that, but they're trying to mimic me. so it's them being me, being them, but ultimately being me. # don't need no preacher teacher # monday doesn't matter at all, no # start again # shut the blinds # i swear the rhythm �*bout to save my life # now it's 11.59 # we're on the edge of a saturday night...# well, that takes me to the single, lights camera action, cos that's kind of about putting on your glam and stepping out for the night. # it's one hell of a ride # make sure you know

you want to play...# do you still get a thrill when you pull together a new outfit or a new look? if there's the mention of fittings, i'm like this... there's all the preamble. so when you find the outfit or it works, there is that moment of like, "ok, good." and sheer relief that it's done. yeah, there's like a high of being ready and going and then i think the next high is getting it all off. right. like all of it. face, hair, outfit, shoes — all of it, and getting comfy again. are you pretty practised now at de—glamming? well, i call it debunk. and sometimes i have to remind people that you need to factor that in for scheduling. it takes... it can take a second. i mean, it's not trowelled on, but it does take a second. what's. . .what�*s your comfort clothes, then, when all of the stage costumes come off? oh, trackies. trackies. yeah, yeah.

slippers? yeah! 50 shades of comfortable. that's...that�*s my buzz. yeah. i always have this vision that you go home after a gig and you pour yourself a glass of kylie rose, spritz the room with some kylie perfume, and go to bed underneath your kylie duvet. ijust brand, brand, brand right before sleep. um, no, it's probably a really very worn pair of track pants and, you know, that one t—shirt. t—shirts kind of have... there's one thatjust, i don't know, it's in favour. your go—to. that's the t—shirt for those six months. and then something happens and it's the next one and that's the t—shirt for six months. ok, now i've got butterflies! makes me wonder about the fast changes that you do onstage cos you have seven or eight outfits per show... that's stressful. ..and sometimes you're in and out of them in under a minute. how does that happen, practically? i'm going to confess... ..a lot goes on in the quick change. i might swear a lot. i have actually...

i apologised not that long ago. like, it's frantic. it's really stressful. and itjust takes one thing to go wrong and you're all freaking in the quick change. you know, i passed by wardrobe on a gig i did recently and ijust said, "i'm a despicable human being. i'm s orr y and they're like, "what happens in quick change stays in quick change." but to apologise in the moment, that says something about who you are. no, i apologised afterwards. right. there was no time in the moment. "back out!" and i heard a rumour that sometimes in the quick change, you down a couple of oysters. i've tried all sorts of different things — a bit of banana, a little... it's like i need... a banana is good, and it's fast. potassium gives you energy. yeah. does it not gum up the mouth, though, a little bit when you're singing? nothing... you know, nothing gets stuck, that's good. i don't know, someone mentioned an oyster one time, so, yeah,

i have downed some oysters. chugged an oyster. just for time and ease. you've got to hope you don't get a bad one, though. that would be a disaster. well, i have... i have got close to one. or maybe i even started to eat it and just went, "mm—mm!" and... this is the kind of love that you need in the quick change. i think someone just held it and i went, "pleh!" and she's off again! and for this tour coming up... "what will it be? !" well... i'll get back to you. what's going to be...? what's going to be the...the something in the quick change? not jelly. mm—mm. but you need something with lots of energy, like a runner on a marathon, right? it's got to be fast. maybe i should get those packs of... yeah. that's a great idea! or the things that astronauts have. mental note. yes. yeah. i want some... yeah, i want astronaut food! and, i mean, not that i want a percentage or anything, but i think that could be branded afterwards. oh, we're tming all over that. yeah! # i can't believe that i still feel this way, yeah...#

cos it's your first world tour since the pandemic. golden was the last big... yeah. ..arena touryou did. yeah. i know you've done vegas and you've done hyde park, lots of stuff in between, but to go out to all the different countries and see fans who couldn't come to those shows must be very exciting. i'm so excited to reach all of those people. live shows are just the coolest. they really are. i just... and i'vejust had so much music since then, and music that i think is going tojust translate so well into...into live performance and building the show. i mean, i've got to... possibly one of the hardest things is the set list. i mean, taylor swift did an eras tour with ten albums... i was about to say, she figured it out. ..you've had 17. ido?! oh, my gosh. you're right, i do. could you do three and a half hours? i probably could. i don't think i'm going to. i mean, i'd need more than a couple of oysters to get me through! # we'll redesign... #

the bar keeps being raised. like, i remember when you did the aphrodite tour. well, that was off the charts. with the water on the stage. that was kind of insanity. # love in us... # like, that was... we knew it at the time and we did it anyway, but looking back, why would you travel precision fountains? why would you do that?! but it was amazing. # all the lovers that have gone before # they don't compare # to you. # you do always fly above the audience on something, though. if it's not a crescent moon, it's a star. yeah. i don't know that i will this time. we've kind of entered a bit of a kind of slick zone. so i think it's... there's going to be precision in a different way. and then... i mean, i'm about to contradict

myself, which is classic. ..i do like to have a lot of freedom in the show as well, where i canjust interact and do and be with the audience and not have to be stuck up on something. wow! well, you might have sounded like angels, but here's the thing — i'm not fooled for a moment. you know, stuff, you're like, "where does this song...?" i don't know where it came from. sometimes it feels like it just fell. .. it has come through you. but, yeah, the magic of connection with people — we all do different things, we live different lives, but we have...we have stuff that connects us. and through music, it's so powerful. one of the most tangible things, i guess, even outside of music and acting, when you talked about your cancer diagnosis, the number of women who went for screenings shot up. mm. and that's a real difference

that you've made to people's lives, just by talking about it. the "kylie effect" that they called it at that time was... ..was, yeah, really moving. yeah. and then i got letters and letters and letters and drawings and messages and i kept them all, and they really, really made such a difference to me. envelopes that just said, "kylie minogue, pop star." or, "kylie minogue, australia." and they got to you? and i would think, "they did this, or their parents helped them, "they put a stamp on it." the post department have bothered to... ijust felt like there wasjust a trail of, um... ..of love and support and it was just beautiful. when i was researching this interview, i didn't realise that initially you were misdiagnosed. misdiagnosed is...possibly too strong a terminology, although i did say that. but, yeah, i mean, iwould go back and think, "hmm, if we..."

and i was about to go on tour, i was in the uk. and, you know, part of that's my fault. there's different steps of checking and i didn't have all the checks, but certainly one of them said, "well, that's. .. you don't need to worry about that." and i kind of wish they'd said, "you might want to do this other test. yeah. .and this other test. " but it is what it is. and i obviously am so grateful that when things progressed that i knew about it and i was able to action. ..everything. and it's 20 years ago now, presumably... next year, next year. ..it�*ll be all clear. whoever�*s going through that right now, ijust send, you know, all the love possible and best wishes. yeah. oh, baby, hit that note.

# oh, no, not i # iwill survive... . # come on and sing it with us. # just as long as i know how to love # i know i i'll stay alive... # _ in march, you were in america and you went onstage with madonna. when i spoke with her manager, who i've known for a long time, and he said, "oh, you know, m would like you to join her onstage. "she'd really like to sing i will survive with you." and the reasoning for that is she lost her mother to breast cancer, she knows of some of my story and we're women who have survived the industry. and so it was this kind of acknowledgement and celebration of that. # i will survive. and there i was onstage with madonna, so it was kind of mind—blowing! if you'd told the 16—year—old you who made that demo tape...

i mean, forget about it! there's so much that's happened in my life that 8—year—old, 12—year—old, 15—year—old, 20—year—old me would have not been able to even compute. you're going to meet prince one day, you're going to go to paisley park, he's going to write a song for you. you're going to sing onstage with madonna! imean... i'm jealous. i'm amazed! i'm like, "is this even my life?" i think you know this song. # la—la—la—la—la—la—la—la # la—la—la...# really random but fast question, kathy lette, who's a good friend of yours... yeah? ..says that you're a champion scrabble player. what's the best word you've put down? oh, she's given me...! i don't know, some sneaky little, you know, a three words out of a word. i love puzzles. i love spelling bees. i love wordle, i love crosswords. ilove, er... i never know how to say it. su—do—ku. sudoku, yeah, yeah. um...| love a puzzle.

what did you get wordle in today? i haven't done it today, but i will. it's kind of annoying if you get it in two lines. oh, really? that's the goal, surely? no, i want more of it. i want it to be more of a challenge. like get to the pointy end and get to the bottom. like everything's at stake. you want it to be risky. yeah. i'm living on the edge, people! # lights, camera, action! # tuning in, tuning out...# you've always got to have a challenge, right? there's always one right around the corner. i know your challenge right now cos they're going like, "can you wind it up?!" winding me up. yep. i can sense it. kylie, i know you've got to go. thank you so much. thank you. that was a really enjoyable chat. we covered a lot of ground. yeah. music: lights, camera, action by kylie minogue # lights, camera,

action, that's it.# hello there. sunshine will be limited i can mentioned it will be remaining on the mild side for most of us. this high pressure anchored across the near continent and bring in the south south when tilly winds. the cold air is never too far away. it's here where we have a weather front that will bring further outbreaks of rain and we've already seen some wet weather across scotland throughout parts of christmas day. the boxing day it will push southwards. patches of rain for northern ireland and patches of scotland. forthe northern ireland and patches of scotland. for the rest of the

country it is going to say settled with a lot of cloud around, light winds and limited sunshine. temperatures in the low teens mild for the time of year. as we push into thursday night, it will stay rather damp across scotland where they will be more of a breeze cold for the northern ireland is. further south with a blanket of cloud relatively mild with the temperature of 47 celsius. these weather fronts across scotland will bring thicker cloud an outbreak of rain across argyll and the highlands, some breaks in the cloud across eastern scotland. for most it is going to be dry and rather grey and cloudy and temperatures in double figures for many. temperature isjust coming down a little bit through friday. saturday, it's a similar story for large parts of england and wales. rain pushing into scotland and england and wales and western

parts. that will bring some more substantial rain here. temperatures ranging from nine to 11 degrees. something a bit colderfor to 11 degrees. something a bit colder for the to 11 degrees. something a bit colderfor the north of colder for the north of scotland. into part two of the weekend we have high pressure to the south lower pressure to the north that will feed on outbreaks of rain. the focus of the rain will be across northern areas and there is a chance of some cold an area in scotland turning the showers wintry. some good spells of sunshine across southern britain, closer to that area of high pressure and temperatures for most in double figures. as you move out of the weekend into the following week, this is the weather to the new year it will be turning more and settled. colder error is likely to make a return. first it will be affecting scotland and bringing those wintry showers and then it will be spreading

southwards. with the jet pushing southwards and pushing low pressure in, we likely to see some of this rain turning to snow as the colder air moves southwards. it may lead to the hills across north and western areas. we could see some sleepiness down to lower areas. areas of low pressure and hints of it turning colder especially in the north, but even further south. stay tuned to the forecast.

live from london, this is bbc news. the king in his christmas speech calls for peace

in world conflicts, unity after the summer riots and reflects on his cancer treatment. pope francis has used his traditional christmas message to call for peace in ukraine and gaza, calling the humanitarian situation there "extremely grave". officials in kazakhstan say 38 passengers were killed in the crash landing of an azerbaijan airlines flight. and protests have erupted in several cities across syria after a video showed an attack on a shrine belonging to the formerly powerful alawite minority. hello, i'm sarah campbell. king charles has given his annual christmas day speech, where he paid tribute to the doctors and nurses for the care they've provided to him and the princess of wales during their cancer treatment this year. he called for unity after the summer riots in the uk and made a plea for peace in the middle east,

central europe and africa. this year's christmas broadcast was delivered