and the red carpet is ready to welcome the stars for the 82nd golden globes which take place in los angeles later. and now, newscast, the bbc s daily news podcast, looks at elon musk s involvement in uk politics. recorded this morning — just before musk said he thinks nigel farage should be replaced as the leader of reform uk. paddy, paddy, paddy, is so nice to see you in person. it's nice to see you, too. just back from cheltenham racecourse. chelmsford. oh, yes, i'm sorry. also a lovely place. also great races. the voice you are hearing is personally used to work from nigel farage until... not that long ago. december, until about then. until what happened then? i was fired. and then he became really popular.

yes! forgive me, this is what happens on a newscast. we are delighted to have you with us of course. we are going to spend quite a lot of time hearing from and talking about nigel farage. his reform party at the beginning of 2025, seems to be the ones making a lot of the running. whether you like it or not. let's talk about today newscast. hello, it's paddy in the studio. and it is laura in the studio. as we have already mentioned we are here with gwain toller, who is a partial guest, he is a guest with opinion, he is not a journalist, he is here, a fellow traveller from the reform party. very much so. how long were you nigel farage�*s brain? i would not claim to be his brain but... since 2014, this is the third time i have been fired. that's a long time, kind of mirrors his career, the ups

and downs, the great highs and the great lows. at the moment, he does appear to be riding a great high. we talk about what great friends he has because elon musk is going to get into trouble, it seems to me, he might pay him a lot of money but it also means getting in trouble. elon musk has been making a series of increasingly inflammatory and i think what most people find very offensive remarks about labour politicians, the prime minister and the home office minister, jess phillips. i query that most people find it offensive, most people in certain sectors of society but not most people. well, that's an interesting point so you think that most people find it offensive to be accused of being complicit in rape. yes, i do think many people would find that offensive but i think a lot of people are so angry that they don't feel this particular thing is offensive. if it was directed at them, however, if it is directed at a government minister they think, well, hey. if you short cut to the angle part... it's not the same as an

informed debate because a lot of the nuance has been lost. i think what many people are concerned about, including nigel farage himself, is a tax on the politicians. and our newscasters are very upset about attacks on migrant hostels, you can't firebomb migrant hostels. certainly you can't. so what we need is informed debate and we are not convinced we're getting that out of elon musk. so if we take this back then, if people did not hear yesterday's episode and they have not heard you on the radio on tv this morning, we are recording at 10:50am. quick context, elon musk has been saying incredibly rude things about keir starmer and jess phillips about their decision not to have a uk—wide huge specific inquiry into what happened into the grooming gangs over a period of many yea rs. if you have been paying attention, you know that there have been lots of different investigations, however, there is no question that many vulnerable young women were let down appallingly for a long time and the authorities did

not act anything like rapidly, seriously enough and they have been, the evidence that people basically look to the other way. the impact of such an inquiry would be very very important. i think that the anger right now, many of the grooming gangs, rape gangs, call them them what you will, have been prosecuted. there may well be many more still operating, i don't know. they have been prosecuted. nobody is questioning that. the investigation, the inquiry should be into why was it downplayed. why was a father arrested for trying to save his child. who was it? who were the police? we have had named police by some of the victims, nothing has happened. none of the rotherham police have been sacked, none of the rotherham social workers have been sacked or the council workers for what was clearly failing. the biggest question in public life, is what did you know when did you know? we want to know who knew what and when and who did what and why? the conservative government also turned down a call for a

national public inquiry partly because when she was home secretary theresa may set up an inquiry into child sexual abuse historically so she would argue i've already set up one... and it didn't look at this and the person that carried out that inquiry did make a very long list of recommendations of what to do about this. i've looked into this and the person that carried out that inquiry did make a very long list of recommendations of what to do what to do with this issue... and she has pointed out since that the conservatives did not follow up on any of them. what we have also been trying to to this week is, nigel farage, beyond the substance of the issue of an inquiry which we talked quite a lot about yesterday. the question of nigel farage is notjust about inquiry comic for him it's a different one. it is his high voltage friendship with elon musk, who has a huge megaphone that he is using back—to—back and support him, to put massive rocket boosters and everything he has said, is there a point that

could burn him with some of the voters ? and is there a line where nigel farage would say that elon musk cannot trust with the kind of thing is that he is saying what has been going on with this country. let's have a listen to what he said this morning... would i rather live in a world where we're free to cause offence than a world in which free speech and debate gets shut down? i know which of those two i prefer. would you tell elon musk that he is wrong? i know you have distanced yourself from what he said about tommy robinson... you know what, realfriends when they meet face—to—face and they have conversations and they agree on they agree to disagree and that is what open society and free speech is all about. but have you out anyone in your team said to elon musk that his calls for tommy robinson to be released from prison, a convicted offender, somebody on the far right who you yourself are worked very hard to distance yourself from, have you told and he is wrong about that?

i think you're missing the point. the point. the point is the fact that he supports me politically and supports does not mean that i have to agree with every single statement he makes on x. i think you're getting bogged down in this, i will in the operation have a conversation with him in a variety of things and this will no doubt be one of them. no doubt the media getting to hang up on this. frankly, what he says about other people, what his views on electric vehicles are whatever it may be is irrelevant. would i rather live in a world where we're free to cause offence than a world in which free speech and debate gets shut down? i know which of those two i prefer, but. would you tell elon musk that he is wrong? so i know you've distanced yourself from his comments about tommy robinson. do you know what? i can't really talk about the mask thing because that's very recent, tramp, yes, he has been a friend of tram since 2016 and is notjust a friend of tram, he's a friend of a lot of people that he is bringing his cabinet so he has a depth of understanding.

like some people, nigel and donald trump both value loyalty and the fact that nigel farage put his head above the parapet before trump became president, the only international polisher to do so. that is made a great deal, that friendship has been maintained over many years so there is a real friendship. what kind of friendship... i want to ask you more about the impact of that in a second and how useful it is to nigel farage but in terms of him and president tramp, how does it work? do the messages other? sinai do they phone each other, i don't how often, i suspect now that he is president elect their phone calls be fewer and farther between. doesn't extend to the circle, has donald trump shown largest to you? are you invited to the inauguration? i'm might have been invited by can't afford it. how does it work because

he's going to give him money, he says he's going to give nigel farage money? i think if that's possible what is more interesting is the ability and the learning, how they worked in pennsylvania some of the swing state and how reform can use that tech to target and effectively campaign which is reform's be a problem. we are great at the air war into the ground that will be the hard work. i'm sorry to interrupt. conversational tone! he's not rude! one of the things i do read from radio four listeners and you might have from your viewers, why are you doing nigel farage on the first sunday of the year? we've only got five mps, the bbc�*s are championing a party, it is said, which is only got five mps. is an interesting thing about this, you are this day and age, almost whoever you are talk to you get vaccinations that you're giving somebody a platform. giving somebody an interview is not giving zambia

platform, it is asking questions about things that are in the nudes. trying to hold them in to account. ——in the news. trying to hold them in to account. as we have talked about lots of times, there is no question that something very interesting is going on with reform, their members have passed 170,000, they said yesterday, that is much bigger than the conservatives. it's growing very quickly. they right now are often neck and neck or sometimes even head of the conservative in the polls. the other thing that is interesting in terms of the mechanics of how low this it works and all the new cast is like to know about. the traditional sunday morning is that in january and is for all the party leaders, the prime list normally goes first, keir starmer perfectly legitimately, his team told us he did not want to be the first weekend of the year. we had to speak to the next few weeks but

he chose not to. sometimes from the outside, and i wish we could phone up whoever we wanted and get them on the site. it's interesting, though, isn't it? just can you tell it with your knowledge of everyone there, what does nigel farage want from elon musk and what to see elon musk at once nigel farage? i don't know if musk wants anything from nigel farage i really don't. he sees what nigel does and believes and he has a level of support that absolutely but i don't think musk wants anything from nigel. what does reform, nigel, one from last? i think it's more not so much the money but it's looking at how musk supported tramp in campaigning in key seats, in key states, in pennsylvania and elsewhere, because reform is great in the air war but the ground is where we need... 2025 is about building a machine for the general election, is what he said. let's see.

the bit the bigger links altogether is that people who like reform has felt let down by the main political parties. they were made promises which were not delivered on. that is a serious cancer for our political... year after year after year. is one of the reasons went to the reform yesterday because something is happening with this increasing membership. as we are talking about yesterday, there were people of all different ages there, it was not a particular demographic. but the one thing that people had in common was that they were all very angry. whether they were angry about pylons, immigration, feeling skint, what they saw as a lack of opportunity for the young people, they were all very angry. and for them, nigel farage�*s reform party is giving them a home. they were also very happy to be together... and giving them a voice. they were enjoying to being together. the mood of the event was actually quite jovial. celebrate tree, yes. it was celebrated

in that context. i'm not going to make big predictions about what that means or what that might not mean but it's certainly pertinent and relevant to discuss the beginning of the year. what it does mean, one thing it does mean, this 130,000 that have joined since general election, that's not people who have got their subscriptions on annual take over which many other parties do have. these are people who are having the passion of the newly converted, these are people who will knock on doors, they go out campaigning. this is not a passive membership. this is a highly active membership. you have mentioned that camaraderie, if in many walks of life, you say you're a supporter of reform, you are shunned. in that room, they are amongst friends.

and they see that they are alone. in certain industries, and i would suggest broadcasting is one, somebody who is a reformer is regarded at little bit beyond the pale. i know plenty of people within various broadcasting organisations who quietly say i can't say it work. i wouldn't ask. what was interesting yesterday was a feeling amongst some of the people i spoke to that they were happy to have found each other. i think that's something you can certainly... if there is an average now, a blunt average mean, of about 260, 270 members per constituency. that's a lot. let me go back to laura's question. not to you, to nigel farage, which was what is the impact of the world's richest man calling for one of our ministers to go to prison? and why can't nigel farage simply say... do you know what real friends when they meet face to face,

have have conversations and they agree to agree and sometimes they agree to disagree. and that is what open society and free speech is all about. but have you or anyone in your team said to elon musk that his calls for tommy robinson to be released from prison, a convicted offender, somebody on the far right who you yourself worked very hard to distance yourself from? have you told him that he's wrong about that? i think you're missing the point. the point is, the fact that he supports me politically and supports reform doesn't mean i have to agree with every single statement he makes on x. and i think you're getting bogged down in this, you know. you know, iwill, at the inauguration, have a conversation with him on a variety of things. this will no doubt be one of them. but i think the media are getting too hung up on this. you know, frankly, you know what he says about other people, what his views on electric vehicles are, or whatever it may be maybe isn't relevant. sir gawain, when it comes to nigel farage and his friendship with musk and with trump, you've been on the inside. are they real friendships or are they political fellow travellers ?

i can't really talk about the musk thing because that's very recent. nigel has criticised in time ha ., . himself to delete from comments about tommy robinson. he worked very hard to distance yourself from that but he won't do so in the same way about his comments about labour politicians. maybe we should not be surprised about that because they are his political opponents. but what all of this also does do is it makes life tricky for the government. the government has got elon musk chucking rocks and stones online with his huge, massive megaphone and he was doing government interviews this morning... you get this real sense in labour circles that they think it's maddening to get this kind of offensive staff being chucked at them as they see it by elon musk, they don't want to do anything to pick more of a row with one of the most powerful men in the world, not least because he is notjust any billionaire, he's a billionaire who might have a big job in the white house. this was how wes streeting was trying to square that circle today. keir starmer and jesse phillips have been on the receiving end of thejudge

criticism are people who have done in their professional lives more than most people ever do to lock up paedophiles, rapists, wife beaters and every other type of scumbag in our society. as director of prosecutions, keir starmer opened up historic cases going after people he thought who had gotten away with it. he's placed specialist prosecutors to make sure that we could build the evidence to put rapist behind bars. as forjess, the work that she has done in her professional life outside politics supporting victims of violence against women and girls has helped to support them to get their day in court and to lock up their abusers. interesting prediction from you that there will be less mask when he gets... he's got a job to do. his prediction from me, he'll poppy fallout with donald trump because this seems to be what happens. the closer you get in that circle, you end up...

it's slightly different this time. i think that donald trump spent a lot more time building a team, more thought about it. in 2016 there was a lot of friction because it did not know the people. this time, i think you'll find that the falling out and people of accused nigel of the same, the falling cell be far fewer than last time. fascinating prediction and i wonder if i could ask you again about the nigel farage roll, no matter what we think about nigel farage, you seem to think as a hostile environment, he has been all over the bbc,... whatever they think about... talking over each other. will he be used by keir starmer or peter mandelson in some way to represent team uk? i think that yes is my simple answer. mandelson said it can't nigel farage has said it, i think

the _ difference between mandelson and starmer, the fact that starmer crossed the floor to chat to him, is telling. in 2016, the tories found themselves constitutionally unable to use the only brit with an entry into the white house, into the oval office to talk to him. i think that keir starmer is a little bit more sensible and i think that mandelson is much more pragmatic and he realises that if he wants to get in there... i have been talking to somebody, a uk—based american, kenney baden ox team are going to him and saying how can you help us to counter faraj in the white house. the tories do not have a way in. labour have a way in it because they are the government but they recognise that if they want to have open comms with the white house, if you want to have open comms with donald trump's cabinet then why reinvent the wheel, we have got faraj. nigel farage understands that it's not always what he wants, it's what is good for the country. when i did they trust and, being realistic, the conservatives, you think that... sign and i think the tories have a harder

way of dealing with because he's too close. labour, it's much easier to trust somebody because they know the differences, they know there is a broad gap so they know where they stand. it will come to a head pretty soon because donald trump has promised tariffs on the world and we are in the world and the government is going to have to decide i'll be more pro—us, or more pro—eu... talking over each other. we should also say that kenney baden has already been to dc and we don't know if she will be able to make very much better lies but we will see in the months to come. nigel also told us that he's going to do dry january that he might not make it until the inauguration. i don't want to do dry january four, is anathema. it's unlikely. it's funny because you sometimes sound a bit like him, ifeel like i'm on the sofa with somebody else. i hope you've got something so that you wanted to say. thank you for coming onto newscast. it's been a pleasure.

sound like it's been a pleasure. one of the other topics this morning and social care. finally, on friday after lots of toing and froing the government did announced an independent review and which they have said they were do a lot of times, to work out by 2028, what a long—term shape should be for the care of the most elderly and vulnerable in our society. helen from norfolk, hell or heaven. these classes we love you get in touch. she says how much more time and money needs to be spent in order to delay doing anything about it? my nursing career include experience of working in three years in the last labour government and everything in the garden was not rosy for the bigger problems of social care are not rapidly dealt with, emergency services won't improve. it does not matter how much funding is directed towards hospitals if beds are occupied by patients who need to be

in the community? helen, who is from the front line of nursing, asks how much more time is needed. everybody agrees that we are past time, everybody tells us that they are beds in hospitals which are used wrongly for social care provision. wes streeting is clearly trying to walk the line. this is how he defended the criticism and white is going to take so long another three years of what they need to do. action is needed this week. i announced to money through the grants... i right now, as for the casey- commission, i am delighted by the way, we have got one of whitehall, best do is to lead this commission that should reassure people that this is| not some talking shop that will deliver action. - there first report - is due next year that will set out the actions - we need to take on social care,

not some point in the future, | ijust take people back to why take a bit of time in the - long—term plan, what i'm trying to do is break the cycle of. broken politics on this issue. so we can actually build i the kind of consensus for a national care service of the . kind that we have largely had on the national health service we have had for the last four. years because our experience . has been every general election campaign has been an election campaign where social care - plans go to die. ask andy bannon . and gordon what... talking over each other. louise casey says the social care system needs much more money. will you say that should be in the next labour ma nifesto ? what louise will come up with as a reformer, is - a plan and a set of options onj both reform and what she will be clear about the investment that is needed. _ that's not quite a yes. i have no doubt that wes streeting, a health secretary who wants to fix this problem once and for all, however, what does he have any guarantee that the labour party

as a whole will accept whatever louise casey comes up with? does he have any guarantee that he will be able to do what he really wants to do, get all of the parties to agree to it in 2028, so theoretically it could be in all of their manifestos next time round and not something they all use against each other and fight about? he's got no guarantee of either of those things. his supporters in what he would say is that you cannot fault us for trying and we are sincerely trying to get on with trying to fix this. even though there is still sort of thing is that the government has to grapple with. your mac it's unusual for us, we it's unusual for us, we normally have henry zeffson here, he's obviously got a day off, which is marvellous. we will be back next saturday and we will be hoping to have some of these reactions from some of these new casters. i can't help asking, are you doing dry january? i'm not doing dryjanuary, i think that these things are thrust upon you by the people. if you want to cut down or stop, you can do it any time of the year. you know, i understand...

i wish you luck to all those who are doing it! me to! godspeed! i'm not doing dryjanuary, no. have a very lovely we and safe in the hands of adam. if you are listening, we encourage you to write to us and improve us. but for now, goodbye. goodbye. hello there. sunday was a day of snow, a day of disruption for some, and now the met office has extended the amber weather warning. it's going to be valid until 6am on monday morning. they've shrunk the area a little, it includes the lake district. some areas could see as much as ten 10—15cm of further snow, on top of already significant snowfall and blizzard like conditions, with strong winds close to the centre of the low. we'll continue to see some snow showers through the night across northeast scotland, across the peaks and pennines as well, across the north of england. rain elsewhere, but with temperatures here in rural

spots falling below freezing, ice could be an issue as well first thing. so an icy start, be careful if you're going to be out on the roads early on, particularly if the snow showers are set to continue. as we go through the morning, there'll be further snow showers driven along by strong north to north westerly winds. some of those will run down through wales and into the midlands here. a wintry mix of rain, sleet and snow. south of the m4 corridor, some brightness, but look at the gusts of winds, gusts in excess quite widely of 40—115 miles an hour, and coming from a north westerly direction, that is going to make it feel cold. so your thermometer might suggest three 3—6 celsius, but factor in the strength and the direction of the wind, for many of us, it will feel subzero. that cold air stays in place as well as we move through tuesday. still pretty windy with it, and that will continue to drive in a rash of snow showers

draped along the coast, some pushing further inland as well. the best of any brightness further south, but again, another cold story. now, as we move out of tuesday into wednesday, the winds will fall a little lighter as the low pressure moves off to scandinavia. but we'll need to keep an eye on this frontal system moving in from the south. it could be a little bit further north and run the risk of bringing some rain across channel coasts, but certainly it will bring a little bit more in the way of cloud and spoil the sunshine. a northerly wind continues to drive in some showers to the far north of scotland. sunshine elsewhere, but temperatures, again, really struggling. so as we go through the week ahead, it looks likely that this cold spell will continue, and icy starts for many, cold wintry showers continuing and a widespread frost.

live from washington. this is bbc news millions of people across the us are in the grip of a huge winter storm that could bring the heaviest snowfall and coldest temperatures in over a decade. people continue to pay respects to jimmy carter in his home state of georgia — we'll speak to a friend of the late president on the programme. plus — the 82nd golden globes takes place in los angeles — we'll bring you the latest, live from the red carpet. hello, iam helena humphrey.

we begin here in the us — where millions of people are under weather alerts as a major winter storm sweeps the country. some communities could experience the heaviest snowfall and coldest temperatures in more than a decade. a state of emergency has been declared in six states — west virginia, kentucky, virginia, kansas, arkansas and missouri. in kansas the usual average low temperature at this time of year is minus six degrees celsius — now it's expected to fall to minus 29 degrees. in kentucky the average low is minus three degrees, but its expected to be as low as minus 16. these are pictures from missouri — one of those states under an emergency. snow, ice and plunging temperatures have affected the roads — while air travel has also been hit. more than 5,000 flights across the us have so far been cancelled, according to flight tracking website flightaware. the mayor of kansas city — missouri's largest — says special operations will be in place over the next few days to address the harsh conditions.