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you will never get more out of the staff and resources. the staff here are willing to look at ways of improving the way they do things. in relation to, i have said a lot about the various lies and misinformation that are put out there. my record is, it is open, there was nothing secret about being director of public prosecutions. every case went to court and was looked at by a judge and there is access to every case and i was overscene every case and i was overscene by every case and i was overscene by the attorney general. and so, in a sense, rather than me trying to say any more about what i did when i was in office, you can access this material. you know where it is. you know what the facts are.
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but it is an important point, the reason i have emphasised this, this is about whether i defend myself and my record. that record is there. you can see it and make your own mind up. it is something about the nature of our politics, because once we lose the anchor that truth matters, in the robust debate we must have, then we are on a slippery slope. when politicians and i mean politicians, who sat in government for many years are casual about honesty, decency, truth and the rule of law, calling for inquiries, because they want tojump calling for inquiries, because they want to jump on a bandwagon of the far right, that affects politics. because a robust debate can only be based on the true facts. that is why this is an important point about our politics. not about what anybody may or may
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not say on twitter. theish issueis not say on twitter. theish issue is what are politicians here doing to stand up for democracy and the way we have robust debate. it matters not just to me and the labour party, but it ought to matter and it used to matter to all political parties and it is a sign of where the tory party have got to that we are even having this debate. thank you. robert. w having this debate. thank you. robert.- critics - having this debate. thank you. robert.- critics will - having this debate. thank you. robert.- critics will say l robert. chris? critics will say it is not a _ robert. chris? critics will say it is not a far _ robert. chris? critics will say it is not a far right _ it is not a far right bandwagon. the report said there — bandwagon. the report said there were six towns, rochdale -ot there were six towns, rochdale got one — there were six towns, rochdale got one mention. we found court reports _ got one mention. we found court reports gangs operating in 50 towns — reports gangs operating in 50 towns across the country. are you certain — towns across the country. are you certain as prime minister it is_ you certain as prime minister it is not— you certain as prime minister it is not going on today? why
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don't — it is not going on today? why don't you _ it is not going on today? why don't you order a national public— don't you order a national public inquiry? are you afraid it may— public inquiry? are you afraid it may expose failings of your role _ it may expose failings of your role and _ it may expose failings of your role and that is why elon musk says— role and that is why elon musk says were _ role and that is why elon musk says were you complicit in rape of britain _ says were you complicit in rape of britain. to go after the far right— of britain. to go after the far right does not go to the heart of problem. gn right does not go to the heart of problem-— right does not go to the heart of problem. on my record, you were covering _ of problem. on my record, you were covering crime _ of problem. on my record, you were covering crime when - of problem. on my record, you were covering crime when i - of problem. on my record, you| were covering crime when i was dpp, you were quizzing me at the time for the telegraph and quite rightly too. you looked at my record for five years with me as i was doing thejob. you got access to the materials. in a sense you can look at it. i have set out what i did. i actually changed the system. because i could see some of the thing there is a were going wrong. i'm not tweeting about it or talking about it, i got on with changing it. in relation to the serious point you make, because this is... the victims here
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suffered terrible abuse. unthinkable unspeakable sickening abuse. and then they weren't listened to. and that has to be taken seriously and we have to do everything we can to make sure that never happens again. that is why i made the changes i did within criminal justice. among the reasons i came into politics i felt it couldn't be done within the criminaljust is if spear. on the call for an increasing number of review. there have been a lot of reviews, including localised reviews and into oldham, the mayor of manchester did his review. and the jay report was intended to lock at the different types of exploitation that went on. what professorjay said was really
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important there. because i agree, this doesn't need more consultation. it doesn't need more research, it needs action. there have been many reviews, the constant asking for a further review, no stone should be left unturned. but it is time for action, get on wit. why didn't the last government not implement the jay requirements? we have had ten years of reviews. did they act? no. they're now tweeting and talki about what they think should have been done. they have some basic questions to answer in relation to that. thank you. back to kate. you have said _ thank you. back to kate. you have said there _ thank you. back to kate. you have said there that - thank you. back to kate. you have said there that on - thank you. back to kate. you have said there that on a - have said there that on a separate issue we have had ten years— separate issue we have had ten years of— separate issue we have had ten years of reviews and commissions and looking at a question— commissions and looking at a question and now is the time for action _ question and now is the time foraction. in question and now is the time for action. in your speech now,
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you said — for action. in your speech now, you said you _ for action. in your speech now, you said you don't believe in ducking _ you said you don't believe in ducking reform. despite calling sociat— ducking reform. despite calling social care an urgent need in the general election, you have 'ust the general election, you have just announced another review, which _ just announced another review, which won't report until 2028. will you — which won't report until 2028. will you bring that date forward and give those in the sociat— forward and give those in the social care sector the protection from the national insurance increases while they wait _ insurance increases while they wait for — insurance increases while they wait for your report?— wait for your report? firstly thank you _ wait for your report? firstly thank you for _ wait for your report? firstly thank you for raising - wait for your report? firstly thank you for raising this, l thank you for raising this, social karp is such an important —— care is such an important —— care is such an important issue and linked to the question of what happens in our hospitals. because it has a huge impact and we have got to get right. so we put louise caseyin get right. so we put louise casey in charge of this, coming out with good recommendations. i want to build a consensus, i want a cross party consensus, because if this is going to work and make a material difference it has to last through different parliaments. that will take time to get this right. but we are determined to
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do it. we have announceped it will be —— announced it will be stages. i don't want to say we have to wait until the final outcome of louise's report, which will be in two stages, with the first stage next year and what can we do now to improve the system? we have started with fair pay agreements for staff. that matter, because more staff leave social care to come to the nhs than to go anywhere else. the reason is because of the poor pay and conditions and there is no progression and in there is no progression and in the nhs they can progress. there will be the interim report next year and we can get on with the change we need. but it is right to take time. the report is obviously going to look at what we can do next year. let's see what the first stage brings. laura from the
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telegraph. stage brings. laura from the telegraph-— stage brings. laura from the teleu-rah. ~ , telegraph. prime minister, you have talked _ telegraph. prime minister, you have talked about _ telegraph. prime minister, you have talked about reforming i telegraph. prime minister, you| have talked about reforming the nhs from — have talked about reforming the nhs from top _ have talked about reforming the nhs from top to _ have talked about reforming the nhs from top to bottom, - have talked about reforming the nhs from top to bottom, but. have talked about reforming the nhs from top to bottom, but a i nhs from top to bottom, but a number— nhs from top to bottom, but a number of— nhs from top to bottom, but a number of the _ nhs from top to bottom, but a number of the policies - nhs from top to bottom, but a number of the policies that - nhs from top to bottom, but a | number of the policies that you have _ number of the policies that you have outlined, _ number of the policies that you have outlined, the _ number of the policies that you have outlined, the surgical- have outlined, the surgical hubs — have outlined, the surgical hubs are _ have outlined, the surgical hubs are familiar, - have outlined, the surgical hubs are familiar, becausej have outlined, the surgical- hubs are familiar, because they were _ hubs are familiar, because they were introduced _ hubs are familiar, because they were introduced under- hubs are familiar, because they were introduced under the - hubs are familiar, because they were introduced under the lastl were introduced under the last government _ were introduced under the last government i_ were introduced under the last government. i want _ were introduced under the last government. i want to - were introduced under the last government. i want to ask, . were introduced under the last. government. i want to ask, what will be _ government. i want to ask, what will be radical— government. i want to ask, what will be radical in _ government. i want to ask, what will be radical in reforming - will be radical in reforming about— will be radical in reforming about the _ will be radical in reforming about the plan _ will be radical in reforming about the plan and - will be radical in reforming about the plan and also . will be radical in reforming i about the plan and also can will be radical in reforming - about the plan and also can you enlarge — about the plan and also can you enlarge on _ about the plan and also can you enlarge on what _ about the plan and also can you enlarge on what the _ about the plan and also can you enlarge on what the new- about the plan and also can you enlarge on what the new deal. enlarge on what the new deal with— enlarge on what the new deal with the — enlarge on what the new deal with the private _ enlarge on what the new deal with the private sector- enlarge on what the new deal with the private sector is - enlarge on what the new deal with the private sector is and | with the private sector is and h do— with the private sector is and h do you _ with the private sector is and h do you think— with the private sector is and h do you think the _ with the private sector is and h do you think the chances . with the private sector is and j h do you think the chances of are avoiding _ h do you think the chances of are avoiding a _ h do you think the chances of are avoiding a winter- h do you think the chances of are avoiding a winter crisis i are avoiding a winter crisis this— are avoiding a winter crisis this time _ are avoiding a winter crisis this time next _ are avoiding a winter crisis this time next year? - are avoiding a winter crisis this time next year? let. are avoiding a winter crisis this time next year? let me take that — this time next year? let me take that on _ this time next year? let me take that on head. - this time next year? let me take that on head. the - this time next year? let me take that on head. the first| take that on head. the first difference is the staff are now on the front line and not the pict line. —— picket line. they're getting on with the job they want to do. that was an impasse we have had far too long under the last government. when it comes to things like
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diagnostic centre, we want to have more and open seven days a week, making more use of technology and ai. and the fact that within the first six months of a labour government you have a signed agreement with the nhs about the change. that is a material difference. that is a material difference. that is a material difference. that is what you get by working together with partners to deliver in the national interest. i'm notjust here, i'm not saying you must do this to the nhs. please respond. i'm saying, look we have worked on this for six months, now it is signed off, we are going to do this. that is a material change in the way that we have come about reform. on the private sector, we can give you more details after, but the broad issueis details after, but the broad issue is to make sure that the capacity we are able to use for the private sector is more comprehensive. it is in areas
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which are not necessarily usually covered by these agreements. which sometimes can be the sort of easiest operations if you lick like. we want to broaden that. we can provide more details of the actual agreement after. we are working at pace on this. we inherited a pretty broke been nhs, if you... across the country ask people, they would say we love the nature nhs, was people know it was broken by the last government. there will be pressures, of course there will. but the point of ten year plan and taking some of the pressure off waiting lists is to manage that crisis through this winter and alleviate as we go forward. we inherited, as
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with so many other areas, we inherited a real mess from the last government.— last government. prime minister. _ last government. prime minister, you _ last government. prime minister, you say - last government. prime minister, you say the i last government. prime - minister, you say the language elon— minister, you say the language elon musk uses matters to democracy here and has a negative _ democracy here and has a negative impact. musk is going to be _ negative impact. musk is going to be a — negative impact. musk is going to be a senior member of the us administration, led by donald trump, — administration, led by donald trump, so are you taking this asa— trump, so are you taking this asa direct— trump, so are you taking this as a direct attack from his administration and will you ask trump — administration and will you ask trump to— administration and will you ask trump to tone it down? i�*m administration and will you ask trump to tone it down? i'm not auoin to trump to tone it down? i'm not going to individualise _ trump to tone it down? i'm not going to individualise it - trump to tone it down? i'm not going to individualise it to - going to individualise it to elon musk or anybody else. actually, i'm very concerned about where the tory party is going on this in this country. because they are not... i think only a few months ago it would have been unthinkable for things to have said aboutjess phillips that were said without all political party and the leader of the opposition calling it out in terms. i
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genuinely believe it that you would have expected that reaction and been challenging the leaders of opposition, will you denounce this, this isn't their? because it has put a member of parliament at risk. that is not good. that is why i say a line has been crossed. this isn't about america or musk. i'm talking about our politic s and responsibilities our politicians have and distancing themselves and condemning it. if you're not prepared to stand up as a tory mp and denounce what has been said aboutjess phillips, who has now had threats made to her, you need to consider why you're in politics in the first place in my view. jack from the sun. place in my view. jack from the sun. ., ., sun. you identified that the ja sun. you identified that the jay inquiry _ sun. you identified that the jay inquiry looked _ sun. you identified that the jay inquiry looked at - sun. you identified that the jay inquiry looked at the - sun. you identified that the i jay inquiry looked at the wider jay inquiry looked at the wider issue — jay inquiry looked at the wider issue of— jay inquiry looked at the wider issue of child sexual abuse. by refusing — issue of child sexual abuse. by refusing to hold a national
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inquiry— refusing to hold a national inquiry that zeros in on these rape — inquiry that zeros in on these rape gangs, can we take it there _ rape gangs, can we take it there are— rape gangs, can we take it there are no failings of the wider— there are no failings of the wider state that need to come to tight? — wider state that need to come to light? i wider state that need to come to liuht? ., �* ~ to light? i don't think we should leave _ to light? i don't think we should leave any - to light? i don't think we should leave any stone l should leave any stone unturned. i think we know what the basic failings were. the reason i brought the first prosecution for an asian grooming gang is because i could see these warped ideas about community relations were possibly having an impact. i could see the myths and stereotypes about thing victims were preventing people from the protection they needed. that action was taken over a decade ago. of course you're right to challenge and say, couldn't there be something else. but there be something else. but the basic problem here is well known. it was obvious, that is
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why i did what i did in the crown prosecution service. i could see what the problem was. there is always this suggestion that let's have another review. i think professorjay did look at this for a long time. you could sense the impatience on her behalf to say get on with the things. 20 something recommendations in the jay report. none of them have been fully implemented yet. for the leader of the opposition to call for a further inquiry. she didn't implement the 20 recommendations of the jay report. then i think that shows the perhaps... wherejust the you know trying to get noticed is become more important than the issue. i do genuinely say for those that are concerned at protecting victims and i really am, it is time to get on wit. implement all the recommendations so far and you will make a material difference
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to the lives of very many victims. that is why i think professorjay said, you know, let'sjust professorjay said, you know, let's just get on with what we have got t. and i think there is an element of truth in that. i'm not closing my mind if there are specific allegations, we will deal with them. i'm not prepared to have this you know pushed under the carpet. but i'm impatient with people who say do another review, when they haven't got on with implementing the seven reviews. there is no end of reviews. it is time for people to take the action. that i high i did what i did as dpp and will do what i need to do as prime minister. claire? ., ., ., ., claire? you have vowed to restore trust _ claire? you have vowed to restore trust to _ claire? you have vowed to restore trust to politics, . claire? you have vowed to | restore trust to politics, do you — restore trust to politics, do you think— restore trust to politics, do you think it— restore trust to politics, do you think it is— restore trust to politics, do you think it is time - restore trust to politics, do you think it is time your. you think it is time your anticorruption - you think it is time your anticorruption ministerl you think it is time your- anticorruption minister comes clean — anticorruption minister comes clean about— anticorruption minister comes clean about her— anticorruption minister comes clean about her use _ anticorruption minister comes clean about her use of - anticorruption minister comes clean about her use of homesj clean about her use of homes tinked — clean about her use of homes linked to— clean about her use of homes linked to her— clean about her use of homes linked to her aunt's— clean about her use of homes linked to her aunt's regime i clean about her use of homes i linked to her aunt's regime and
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do you — linked to her aunt's regime and do you have _ linked to her aunt's regime and do you have full _ linked to her aunt's regime and do you have full confidence i linked to her aunt's regime and do you have full confidence in i do you have full confidence in her? — do you have full confidence in her? ~ , .,. , her? well, she acted entirely ro erl her? well, she acted entirely preperly by — her? well, she acted entirely properly by referring - her? well, she acted entirely properly by referring herselfl properly by referring herself to the independent advisor. that is why we brought in being the new code. it is to allow ministers to ask the advisor to establish the facts and, yes, i have confidence in her and that is the process that will be happening. sophie from the mirror. ., ., ,, mirror. you said about nhs staff being _ mirror. you said about nhs staff being on _ mirror. you said about nhs staff being on the - mirror. you said about nhs staff being on the front i mirror. you said about nhsj staff being on the front line not the _ staff being on the front line not the picket line, some unions _ not the picket line, some unions have said they could strike — unions have said they could strike again after your government recommended a 2.8% pay rise _ government recommended a 2.8% pay rise. are you worried this could — pay rise. are you worried this could put— pay rise. are you worried this could put your plans at risk and — could put your plans at risk and we _ could put your plans at risk and we have heard horror stories— and we have heard horror stories of cosmetic surgeries going — stories of cosmetic surgeries going wrong. are you concerned about— going wrong. are you concerned about this — going wrong. are you concerned
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about this and will you take action— about this and will you take action in— about this and will you take action in the uk. gn about this and will you take action in the uk.— action in the uk. on pay, i would gently _ action in the uk. on pay, i would gently point - action in the uk. on pay, i would gently point out i action in the uk. on pay, i would gently point out to i action in the uk. on pay, i i would gently point out to the staff here, we honoured the pay agreement last year and rightly so. i'm proud that we did that. where we stand on proper pay for front line where we stand on proper pay forfront line nhs sfaf where we stand on proper pay for front line nhs sfaf is clear from our record. obviously we will have to go through the process for the pay review, it is the usual process. we will work with the unions and the staff. the only reason we are able to hold up the agreement we have is because we worked with the nhs on what we could achieve together. on the cosmetic, i think you're running a campaign on this, it is an important issue and wes streeting is looking at this. because clearly we need to look at what more can be done in those cases. thank you for highlighting that. thank you all very much. now i will speak to all the rest of you. thank
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you very much. studio: you have been listening to the prime minister keir starmer issuing his plans to cut waiting times in the nhs. he promised faster and more convenient access to the nhs and said that would need to come with reform and it can't back a national money pit. he was quizzed during the questions about the criticisms and the attacks from the billionaire elon musk online about his handling of historical child rape cases. he pushed back hard and said that he had been the first prosecutor of an asian grooming gang and he also said those who are spreading lies online aren't interested in protecting victims, but in promoting themselves. he also widened that and said the attacks from the tories, he said he won't tolerate politicians jumping on
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the bandwagon just to get attention. we have been hearing there on that, those attacks from elon musk. he was also talking about the jay report. that was brought up in the questions there. me said professorjay�*s report was a comprehensive report and there was the need to implement her recommendations rather than have another inquiry as people were asking about. let's speak to our political correspondent harry farley. two big subjects. yes this was a full throated defence from the prime minister. both of his safeguarding minister and his record as the director of public prosecutions, which were both areas that were criticised by elon musk over the weekend. of course the world's richest man and the owner of x. it was interesting that the prime
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minister initially didn't use elon musk by name. he didn't refer to him directly. he was talking more generally about those who are spreading lies and misinformation in his words. and he said that he wanted to focus his criticism on the main opposition on the conservative party. not on elon musk and america. there was a tight walk there the prime minister is trying to walk. because elon musk is set to become a key member of donald trump's administration. donald trump's administration. donald trump's government in two weeks' time. keir starmer conscious of maintaining relationships, good relationships, good relationships with the incoming us administration. and so he talked around elon musk. he said who those who are spreading lies are not interested in victims of abuse, but interested in themselves and said those clear leading
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tommy robinson are supporting a man who was sent to prison. there was defences ofjess phillips. he said the remarks about her had crossed the line. he said that she had received threats as a result of the comments made about her. and that had crossed a line and criticised the conservative party over tlachlt he said they failed to call out the remarks. a full throated defence of his record and a rebuttal of some of the criticisms levelled at him and his party and ministers. particularly from elon musk. its ministers. particularly from eton musk-— ministers. particularly from elon musk. , , , ., elon musk. its interesting you said him not _ elon musk. its interesting you said him not referring - elon musk. its interesting you said him not referring to i elon musk. its interesting you said him not referring to elon| said him not referring to elon musk and he said i'm not individualising this to elon musk. but the problem is these attacks are coming thick and fast from elon musk. it is difficult for the government to ignore this, now that elon musk
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is about to be in a powerful position in the us?- position in the us? yes, arguably _ position in the us? yes, arguably he _ position in the us? yes, arguably he is _ position in the us? yes, arguably he is already i position in the us? yes, arguably he is already inj position in the us? yes, i arguably he is already in a powerful position as the world's richest man and the owner of x. his influence will increase. it is difficult for the government to ignore it. not least when elon musk�*s comments dominate the headlines and he makes these attacks on the british government. he said i won't tolerate politicians jumping on the bandwagon. the focus was on politicians here, on particularly on the conservative party. who he accused ofjumping on the bandwagon. he said those politicians sat in government for ia years without doing anything. focussed his criticism on that, on what he saw as the failure to implement the recommendations of the national inquiry into child sexual abuse that published its
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report in 2022. the criticism from the conservatives that we heard over the weekend and from others is that that report was very broad and general and focussed on child sexual abuse more generally and what they were calling for is a report specifically on grooming gangs and linking the different towns and linking the different towns and examples that we have seen of grooming gangs, often by men of grooming gangs, often by men of asian heritage against young vulnerable girls. that is what the calls are from the conservative party and others, nigel farage included, keir starmer said we didn't need another enquiry. he said the focus was on implementing the findings of that inquiry that published the report in 2022. he said that he wasn't closed minded on and said if there
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were particular cases that need to looked at he wouldn't shut the door. but at the moment saying his focus is on implementing the recommendations that had been made and there wasn't a need for another review. to made and there wasn't a need for another review.— made and there wasn't a need for another review. to go back to the nhs. — for another review. to go back to the nhs. it _ for another review. to go back to the nhs, it is _ for another review. to go back to the nhs, it is an _ for another review. to go back to the nhs, it is an ambitious| to the nhs, it is an ambitious tar get to get waiting times down. he talked about reform. how difficult will it be? you heard another _ how difficult will it be? you heard another defence i how difficult will it be? gm. heard another defence of twha. —— of that. the prime minister made waiting lists a milestone, one of his six main milestones that he announced before christmas, a way the public can look at his record at the time of the next general election and say has this been a success? he has highlighted it as an area that the public can
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keep tojudge him by as an area that the public can keep to judge him by and as an area that the public can keep tojudge him by and hold him to account. that will be significant in the election in four orfive years' time. significant in the election in four or five years' time. flank ou. four or five years' time. flank you- now— four or five years' time. flank you. now time _ four or five years' time. flank you. now time for _ four or five years' time. flank you. now time for a - four or five years' time. flank you. now time for a look- four or five years' time. flank you. now time for a look at l four or five years' time. flank i you. now time for a look at the weather. this week we are looking at the cold weather continuing. further wintry showers for some. widespread frosts and the risk of ice first thing. you can see the colder blues remain. as we head to the weekend the milder yellows come our way and it won't be as cold as at the moment. what we have at the moment is the morning's rain having moved away. but further snow showers continuing in northern and southern scotland, northern england and wales, wintry showers into the
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midlands and northern ireland. temperatures today may say two to about seven. but we have gusty winds and when you a add on the wind chill, it will feel suck zero and gales through the north sea. tonight further wintry showers in northern scotland, northern ireland, wales, north—west england, through the midlands and another cold night with a widespread frost and the risk of ice on untreated surfaces. tomorrow, will be a brighter day for many. but still wintry showers coming in on the northerly flow across northern spland scotland. still cold, temperatures three to eight degrees. as we move through the week and into wednesday, a lot of dry weather on webs. wednesday. a fair bit of
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sunshine. and we have rain moving in to southern england. if it bumps into the colder air we could see some wintry showers. that will clear wednesday into thursday and on to the continent. then high pressure takes charge. so the weather tends to settle down. but still oo northerly flow and still strong winds along the coasts, blowing in some wintry showers. for many, it will remain dry with sunshine and still going to be cold. top temperatures two to seven north to south.
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live from london. this is bbc news. those that are spreading lies and misinformation as far and as wide as possible, they are not interested in victims. a huge winter storm hits the us with a state of emergency declared in several areas. weather warnings, too, in the uk. flooding hits road and rail travel. and a major airport reopens after snow shut the runways. hamas shows the bbc a list of hostages it says it's willing to release in the first stage of a ceasefire deal. it's not clear how many are still alive.
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and the brutalist, baby reindeer, shogun and emilia perez top the golden globes' winners list. hello, i'm samantha simmonds. sir keir starmer has launched a strong attack on those whose who have criticised his record on tackling historical sex gang cases when nhe was the uk's top prosecutor. a slew of online posts by elon musk, the tech billionaire, and a close ally of us president—elect donald trump called sir keir "complicit in the rape of britain". and mr musk also voiced support for the jailed far right political activist, tommy robinson. the prime minister didn't name elon musk directly — but he slammed those who he has said, use the sex abuse case to generate publicity. because those that are spreading lies and misinformation is far and as wide as possible, they are

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