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live from london. this is bbc news. the coffin bearing the former us presidentjimmy carter will arrive in washington dc in the coming hours — ahead of his funeral on thursday. that casket will travel to the naval memorial before coming to the capital, where there will be tributes paid and a day and a half of respects paid from the public. meta — the owner of facebook and instagram — announces an end to fact—checking on its platforms, saying it wants to prioritise free speech over censorship. rescuers in china's tibet rescuers in china's tibet region search for survivors region search for survivors of a powerful earthquake of a powerful earthquake near mount everest — near mount everest — at least 126 people are dead at least 126 people are dead has died at the age of 96. and hundreds more injured. and hundreds more injured.
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and the far—right and the far—right french politician — french politician — jean—marie le pen — jean—marie le pen — has died at the age of 96. hello, i'm matthew amroliwala. let's start in the us — the coffin bearing the former us presidentjimmy carter is on its way from georgia to washington, to lie in state in the capitol rotunda. president carter has been lying in repose in georgia since sunday where members of the public have been paying their respects. he died last month, at the age of 100.
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the nearly six days of public ceremonies will conclude on thursday, with a funeral service at the washington national cathedral. asi as i say, these are the pictures from earlier. let me show you the live pictures at dobbins airbase, the pictures there, the plane ready there on there, the plane ready there on the tarmac to receive the casket and as i was saying, members of his family, his four children, amyjames, donald and jack will all accompany the body ofjimmy carter to washington, dc where he will washington, dc where he will lie in state in the rotunda as lie in state in the rotunda as we've seen many times before, we've seen many times before, and it gives a chance for and it gives a chance for politicians to pay their politicians to pay their respects and of course members respects and of course members of the public. just like we've of the public. just like we've seen over the last few days in seen over the last few days in georgia. georgia. our senior north america correspondent gary o'donoghue our senior north america correspondent gary o'donoghue is at the us capitol in is at the us capitol in washington. washington.
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so the early stages of this so the early stages of this finaljourney, gary. just take final journey, gary. just take us finaljourney, gary. just take us through the preparations being made where you are. well, there's a lot _ being made where you are. well, there's a lot of _ being made where you are. well, there's a lot of planning - being made where you are. well, there's a lot of planning goes - there's a lot of planning goes into this of course. we've had the barriers up around the capital, lots of road closures. the weather here is pretty severe so some of the timings have actually slipped today because of the weather. it's minus five degrees or something outside at the moment. so later on, we are expecting that casket, the coffin withjimmy carter to arrive at andrews. he will be driven into washington and go to the navy memorial on pennsylvania avenue. that's the main drag if you like, that connects the capital worm talking to you from to the white house. about a mile from here. after that he'll paying
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both sides of the aisle, paying tribute to him. then that process where the public and as you say members of congress will be able to file past the casket and pay their respects, a moment of thought before then on thursday morning the funeral at the national cathedral here in washington. and after that, matthew, the 39th president will be taken back to georgia where he will be laid to rest next to his wife and planes, their hometown. and that will mark the end of the formal ceremony, the flags flying at half staff on federal buildings for some days to come. gary, for some days to come. gary, for now. _ for some days to come. gary, for now, thanks _ for some days to come. gary, for now, thanks very - for some days to come. gary, for now, thanks very much. . let's speak to rich rubino. he's a political historian. rich, welcome to the programme. what do you think the legacy is forjimmy carter? he what do you think the legacy is forjimmy carter?— what do you think the legacy is forjimmy carter? he was really an iconoclast _ forjimmy carter? he was really an iconoclast and _ forjimmy carter? he was really an iconoclast and he _ forjimmy carter? he was really an iconoclast and he was - an iconoclast and he was somebody who took on the political establishment. 1976 was tailor—made forjimmy
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carter. he had been a one term governor of georgia, there were a lot more established candidates, but carter basically ran as an outsider and this was right after watergate in the us, or involving richard nixon. he gets elected in one of the problems he had once he was elected president is you remember his own party that wanted more socialist spending, going back to his democratic predecessor lyndonjohnson, jimmy carter was more of a conservative. he wanted to balance the budget, he vetoed some appropriations bills, the democratic congress had sent him, consequently both ted kennedy and jerry brown, governor of california, challenged him from the left for the nomination for his renomination for president and lost. in terms of the complement accomplishments, recognising people's republic of china, establishing diplomatic relations or panama canal treaty, diplomatic relations or panama
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canaltreaty, bringing in canal treaty, bringing in cereal and canaltreaty, bringing in cereal and egypt, almost implausible together for a peace treaty, these are some things he accomplished, preserving alaskan wetlands, he was more conservative than the traditional democrat at the time. it traditional democrat at the time. , , ., time. it is complicated being a fiscal conservative _ time. it is complicated being a fiscal conservative and - time. it is complicated being a fiscal conservative and a - fiscal conservative and a social liberal. i'm going to pause either, because over the last little while we've been taking a press conference from the president elect donald trump and it was rambling in stages but he isjust trump and it was rambling in stages but he is just taking questions now in the last few minutes... he has refused to rule out the panama canal and greenland, so i want to turn to that press conference now. 2000 ears. that press conference now. 2000 years- the _ that press conference now. 2000 years- the peeple _ that press conference now. 2000 years. the people that _ that press conference now. 2000 years. the people that when - that press conference now. 2000 years. the people that when in i years. the people that when in are from — years. the people that when in are from turkey and president one is— are from turkey and president one is a — are from turkey and president one is a friend of mine. ——
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erdogan _ one is a friend of mine. —— erdogan. they are natural enemies, they hate each other but he — enemies, they hate each other but he didn't do that yet. and he didn't_ but he didn't do that yet. and he didn't do it in the past also _ he didn't do it in the past also he _ he didn't do it in the past also. he started and i said, please _ also. he started and i said, please don't do that, and he didnl— please don't do that, and he didn't do— please don't do that, and he didn't do that. but if you look at what — didn't do that. but if you look at what happened with syria, russia — at what happened with syria, russia was weakened, iran was weakened and he is a very smart gov _ weakened and he is a very smart gov and — weakened and he is a very smart guy. and he sent his people in there — guy. and he sent his people in there through different forms and different names and they went— and different names and they went in— and different names and they went in and they took over and thal's— went in and they took over and that's the _ went in and they took over and that's the way it is. you went in and they took over and that's the way it is.— that's the way it is. you have concerns _ that's the way it is. you have concerns about _ that's the way it is. you have concerns about hds - that's the way it is. you have concerns about hds taking i concerns about hds taking control ~~ _ concerns about hds taking control. . ._ concerns about hds taking control... , ., control... the envoy, is that in the back? _ control... the envoy, is that in the back? standing - control... the envoy, is that in the back? standing with l control... the envoy, is that i in the back? standing with my son, _ in the back? standing with my son, eric, _ in the back? standing with my son, eric, is steve who got back— son, eric, is steve who got back from _ son, eric, is steve who got back from the middle east and he's done a fantasticjob. he is a — he's done a fantasticjob. he is a great _ he's done a fantasticjob. he is a great deal—maker. there is a deal—maker, nobody makes a deal _ a deal—maker, nobody makes a deal we — a deal—maker, nobody makes a deal. we have people who understand where the rivers are
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and were — understand where the rivers are and were the bounds are, but they— and were the bounds are, but they cant— and were the bounds are, but they can't talk, they can make deals, — they can't talk, they can make deals, stevens done a great joh — deals, stevens done a great joh i— deals, stevens done a great joh hust— deals, stevens done a great job. ijust want to thank you, steve — job. ijust want to thank you, steve. you've been endlessly for months and he's working specifically on the hostages trying — specifically on the hostages trying to get them back. the question— trying to get them back. the question is... steve, come up for a — question is... steve, come up for a second, you may want to say a — for a second, you may want to say a couple of words. i didn't know steve was going to be here, — know steve was going to be here, actually. he's done a fantastic— here, actually. he's done a fantasticjob and it's a dangerousjob, too, and we appreciate it. he didn't know about— appreciate it. he didn't know about this kind of danger and the other deal—making he does, a lot— the other deal—making he does, a lot of— the other deal—making he does, a lot of big _ the other deal—making he does, a lot of big danger. i'm going to give — a lot of big danger. i'm going to give you a little report on the hostages if i can, steve? thank— the hostages if i can, steve? thank you _ the hostages if i can, steve? thank you very much. the hostages ifi can, steve? thank you very much.- the hostages ifi can, steve? thank you very much. wow. well i think thank you very much. wow. well i think we — thank you very much. wow. well i think we are _ thank you very much. wow. well i think we are making _ thank you very much. wow. well i think we are making a - thank you very much. wow. well i think we are making a lot - i think we are making a lot of progress and i don't want to say too much because i think they are doing a really good job back injoe haw, leaving
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tomorrow to doha. but i think that we've had some really great progress and i'm really hopeful that by the inauguration will have some big things to announce on behalf of the president. the things to announce on behalf of the president.— the president. the questioning movinu the president. the questioning moving to _ the president. the questioning moving to syria _ the president. the questioning moving to syria and _ the president. the questioning moving to syria and the - the president. the questioning | moving to syria and the middle east, interesting though, those questions around the panama canal and greenland, let me just add an extra detail. when asked for an assurance, and he will not use economic coercion as he tries to get control over greenland, he said he cannot assure either of those two scenarios. so an interesting answer to that question. we'll continue to monitor that, but let's go to those pictures you see there on the right of the screen, because you can see the cortege there arriving at dobbins airbase there in georgia because we saw the start of that journey after
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days were members of the public have walked past the coffin of jimmy carter. we then saw the ceremonies and movement of that casket and now it has arrived there before it is placed onto there before it is placed onto the aeroplane, special air mission 39. it is being described as, of course, jimmy carter the 39th us president, and accompanying the coffin, his four children. when they get to washington, we are hearing from gary o'donoghue, what there is the casket will be placed in the rotunda on capitol hill and that gives a chance for politicians and for the public there in washington in the capital to pay their respects all in advance of that state funeral on thursday. we were hearing from rich, a
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political historian justjust before we broke away to go to donald trump. rich, let me bring you back in as we continue to watch these pictures. it was fascinating what you are describing, because you were talking about how perhaps history has been rewritten, he was much more complicated perhaps that many have given him credit for certainly at the time as he exited the white house. as we were saying just before we broke away, he was this combination of a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. i and a fiscal conservative. i think he was actually a socially more moderate, on issues like abortion he said he was personally against abortion rights, the actually, he favoured the law of the land which the united states, roe v wade which states there is a right to abortion in the first trimester, second trimester as well. he think i was —— he was socially conservative but he didn't necessarily let that
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interfere with his political views. i think i'm fiscal policy though, he was interesting when he came in a 1977 he said i'm going to try to balance the budget by 1981, tip o'neill, the speaker of the house, congressman from massachusetts, liberal democrat, wanted the great society programmes of lyndon johnson. they had for example instituted medicare, the war on poverty, the ambitious social programmes. jimmy carter did not do 1531 00:12:27,734 --> 00:
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