that. my own experiences with his election monitoring and the carter— his election monitoring and the carter centre again as a young american — carter centre again as a young american hearing about the united _ american hearing about the united states helping to ensure democratic elections was very exciting — democratic elections was very exciting and very thrilling as americans to know that we had a leader— americans to know that we had a leader doing that in our former president— leader doing that in our former president and actually engaging with him in the gaza strip of all places during the first palestinian elections and seeing _ palestinian elections and seeing him lead his team and checking _ seeing him lead his team and checking on homing places and gathering information about how the polling place was and how did you — the polling place was and how did you get here and how long did you get here and how long did you — did you get here and how long did you stand in line for your ballot — did you stand in line for your ballot and is there any problems with voting, how you feel about being able to vote for the — feel about being able to vote for the first time in all of these _ for the first time in all of these things that give flavour and texture and particularly for the _ and texture and particularly for the first time.

how much support did he get from his successors when he was going about that work? i from his successors when he was going about that work?— going about that work? i think a fair amount. _ going about that work? i think a fair amount. as _ going about that work? i think a fair amount. as a _ going about that work? i think. a fair amount. as a government worker— a fair amount. as a government worker by— a fair amount. as a government worker by that time, the carter center— worker by that time, the carter center and _ worker by that time, the carter center and certainly he himself had a _ center and certainly he himself had a great deal of respect. the — had a great deal of respect. the us— had a great deal of respect. the us governments dependent on their assessment when we did not have — their assessment when we did not have an embassy that was large — not have an embassy that was large enough to field a team to id large enough to field a team to go and — large enough to field a team to go and do _ large enough to field a team to go and do the work ourselves. we absolutely trusted the assessment that the carter center— assessment that the carter center made. we knew that they were _ center made. we knew that they were diligent, with their standards, they were diligent in the — standards, they were diligent in the work that they were going _ in the work that they were going to _ in the work that they were going to ask the questions when they needed help getting visas in two — they needed help getting visas in two different countries. we certainly— in two different countries. we certainly were as helpful as possible. so, certainly, the state — possible. so, certainly, the state department, the us government, believes strongly what _ government, believes strongly what they were doing, is certain— what they were doing, is certain emitted difference into whether— certain emitted difference into whether the united states was going — whether the united states was going to — whether the united states was

going to give economic support, government recognition as we see, _ government recognition as we see, we — government recognition as we see, we see what happened in venezuela, where the us withheld recognition because we did not— withheld recognition because we did not determine that the elections were free and fair. we witt— elections were free and fair. we will look at what happens in syria _ we will look at what happens in syria in — we will look at what happens in syria in the coming months to determine what we are going to do with— determine what we are going to do with the new government. so the work— do with the new government. so the work that the carter center and others who did the work from — and others who did the work from the _ and others who did the work from the eu, of course, and others — from the eu, of course, and others was very important, and he did — others was very important, and he did have absolutely the respect _ he did have absolutely the respect and support from the us government. respect and support from the us government-— government. quite the scene we're looking _ government. quite the scene we're looking at _ government. quite the scene we're looking at at _ government. quite the scene we're looking at at the - government. quite the scene i we're looking at at the moment, isn't it, the outriders at the front, behind, we have a military marching element from each of the armed services that were in existence during carter's administration, and behind that of course, the caisson which is pulling the casket towards the us capital,

down pens of any avenue, and at the side there, you can see the military honour porting which is lining both pennsylvania avenue and also constitution avenue. they are making their way to the east entrance of the us capital, where the chaplain of the us senate, barrett black, and chaplain of the us house, margaret gibbon, are waiting to receive the casket. and we are going to see, as it arrives at the steps, the further military honours. i think there will be a gun salute as it arrives at the us capital, so we'll keep watching these pictures. laura, how do you think, in the current political climate, in washington, people who gathered tonight in the rotunda will reflect on jimmy tonight in the rotunda will reflect onjimmy carter, also in mind of what we witnessed today at the press conference at mar—a—lago?i today at the press conference at mar-a-lago?_ today at the press conference at mar-a-lago? i think this is

at mar-a-lago? i think this is a very poignant. _ at mar-a-lago? i think this is a very poignant, prescient - a very poignant, prescient moment, and obviously we are remembering, if that is the right word, january 6 four years ago of that we have just had kamala harris, who stood over her own defeat, the counting and confirmation of the electoral college votes. so even though we will have a lot of mourners, and pay their respects to jimmy carter of mourners, and pay their respects tojimmy carter as he lies in state in the rotunda, it is a capital that still has a lot more security than four years ago. i used to go and research at the archives and then pop over for lunch, research at the archives and then pop overfor lunch, and thatis then pop overfor lunch, and that is certainly not something you can do any more. it is airtight securities. security particular— airtight securities. security particular tight _ airtight securities. security particular tight because - airtight securities. security l particular tight because what has just unfolded in lens of one of the things the security service will look at intently, and we have jesting the lines and we have jesting the lines and crowds along pennsylvania avenue, security for this particular event. security today will be quite tight, you would expect at the capital.

absolutely. the weather is something that is interesting, in terms of if this had happened four years ago, january 6 have happened is open question, just concerned how bad the snow is —— would it have happened? it must be absently faultless. jimmy carter deserves that, especially as a man who braved the security threats deciding to walk in his inaugural, in a time a very heightened concern. we hadjfk time a very heightened concern. we had jfk who had time a very heightened concern. we hadjfk who had been assassinated not that long ago. you also had this great disillusionment at going on toward the federal government, so he certainly felt that as president you are a man of the people, and i am sure he would want to be a member that way. —— for member that way. i —— for member that way. i thought one of the most interesting photographs unless you days were some of the older gentleman part of the secret service. some of them serve 48 years ago, some of them came back into his staff towards the end. they will be marching

behind the caisson at the moment, some of those same secret service members who would have been there in 1977. yes. unfortunately, the weather is going — yes. unfortunately, the weather is going to — yes. unfortunately, the weather is going to remind them of it! it is going to remind them of it! it was— is going to remind them of it! it was not _ is going to remind them of it! it was not as cold as president obanra's — it was not as cold as president 0bama's administration, but it was cold — 0bama's administration, but it was cold that day. i was there as a _ was cold that day. i was there as a student.— was cold that day. i was there as a student. you were there on pennsylvania — as a student. you were there on pennsylvania avenue? - as a student. you were there on pennsylvania avenue? i - as a student. you were there on pennsylvania avenue? i was - pennsylvania avenue? i was there, pennsylvania avenue? i was there. it _ pennsylvania avenue? i was there, it was _ pennsylvania avenue? i was there, it was wonderful - pennsylvania avenue? i was there, it was wonderful he l pennsylvania avenue? i was i there, it was wonderful he was walking, — there, it was wonderful he was walking, but if you was in a car, — walking, but if you was in a car, i— walking, but if you was in a car, i would walking, but if you was in a car, iwould be walking, but if you was in a car, i would be somewhere warm tiy car, i would be somewhere warm try now! — car, i would be somewhere warm b now! �* . by now! laughter it by now! laughter it was _ by now! laughter it was cold - by now! laughter it was cold that - by now! laughter. it was cold that day. by now! laughter i it was cold that day. i by now! laughter - it was cold that day. i think we have _ it was cold that day. i think we have got it was cold that day. i think we have go— it was cold that day. i think we have got pictures of that da . we have got pictures of that day- what _ we have got pictures of that day. what do _ we have got pictures of that day. what do you _ we have got pictures of that day. what do you most - we have got pictures of that day. what do you most or. we have got pictures of that - day. what do you most or member of that moment when he got out of that moment when he got out of the motorcade? suddenly it stopped, and we should remember that what we are seeing right now is designed to invoke what happened on that day.- happened on that day. yeah, eah. i happened on that day. yeah, yeah- i was _ happened on that day. yeah,

yeah. i was not _ happened on that day. yeah, yeah. i was not exactly - happened on that day. yeah, yeah. i was not exactly at. happened on that day. yeah, | yeah. i was not exactly at the place — yeah. i was not exactly at the place where he stopped by was further— place where he stopped by was further down when he was walking _ further down when he was walking. it was exciting. people _ walking. it was exciting. people were surprised that he actuatty — people were surprised that he actually got out and walked, and of— actually got out and walked, and of course it did bring him much — and of course it did bring him much closer to the people, so it cemented much of what he said — it cemented much of what he said during his campaign about the way— said during his campaign about the way he was going to lead. it the way he was going to lead. it was — the way he was going to lead. it was i — the way he was going to lead. it was i first election to vote _ it was i first election to vote. he was my first presidency vote for! so, yeah, it was— presidency vote for! so, yeah, it was really exciting and really _ it was really exciting and really cold.— it was really exciting and reall cold. , . ~ really cold. did he ever talk about that, _ really cold. did he ever talk about that, laura? - really cold. did he ever talk about that, laura? did - really cold. did he ever talk about that, laura? did he l really cold. did he ever talk. about that, laura? did he ever say why he did that? he about that, laura? did he ever say why he did that?— say why he did that? he is someone _ say why he did that? he is someone who _ say why he did that? he is someone who just - say why he did that? he is someone who just really l someone who just really treasured and wanted to be able to reflect his roots, and i think this idea that he came from somewhere different. planes, george is not exactly a high tourist destination! —— plains, georgia. "i am one of

you, i plains, georgia. "i am one of you, lam plains, georgia. "i am one of you, i am different", even though, yes, that is a lot of rhetoric he was successful using, but he was a very successful businessman and had been governor as well. the fact he tried to present himself as someone who was more similar to the people, this certainly set off a very successful term to begin with, but did not translate into the policy later on. i translate into the policy later on. ., . on. i did mention earlier in the programme _ on. i did mention earlier in the programme that - on. i did mention earlier in the programme that i - on. i did mention earlier in the programme that i am | on. i did mention earlier in - the programme that i am struck by him as the outsider going back to the us capital, because he did not like, laura, the backroom dealing, the connections he had to make in washington, and he did not like him. they saw him as this upstart from georgia, from the southern states but he was not one of them. it was not an easy relationship. one of them. it was not an easy relationship-— relationship. know, and in a wa , relationship. know, and in a way. this— relationship. know, and in a way. this is— relationship. know, and in a way, this is where _ relationship. know, and in a way, this is where the - way, this is where the religious aspect caused a bit of an issue, in the sense that a lot of people from washington saw him as... a lot of the nation got this impression

that, for example, what became known as his malaise speech, when he talked about the economy, he was wearing a cardigan sweatshirt, saying that in order to save energy in the middle, the stagflation, the middle, the stagflation, the opec crisis, and we study the opec crisis, and we study the signs around britain today, oxford has signs, do you need to boil the cattle, and we don't take offence to it but we don't take offence to it but we do not see a president making the same appeal, and i think this is something a lot of politicians have chose not to replicate, and again it goes back to his fundamental honesty. he thought he was doing the right thing that needed to be done, even if it was a tough message to get across. . ., was a tough message to get across. , . ., , across. there is an irony, ambassador, _ across. there is an irony, ambassador, because - across. there is an irony, | ambassador, because the economic ignitions are the same as what they were in the 1980s, although there is been much betterjob creation in recent years, but he talked about malaise, donald trump talks about malaise and managed to make a success of it. and yet he lost in 1980, largely

because with that rather there outlook on the us economy, there was rather ronald reagan, all smiles, the hollywood smile, he was never going to compete with that.— smile, he was never going to compete with that. no, no, he was not. _ compete with that. no, no, he was not. and _ compete with that. no, no, he was not, and i _ compete with that. no, no, he was not, and i don't _ compete with that. no, no, he was not, and i don't think- compete with that. no, no, he was not, and i don't think he l was not, and i don't think he ever— was not, and i don't think he ever intended to try. personality wasjust ever intended to try. personality was just not very “ was —— wasjust —— was just very different. i am — —— was just very different. i am reminded, when laura mentioned the cardigan, us presidents are the only men who suffer— presidents are the only men who suffer as — presidents are the only men who suffer as much as women when it comes— suffer as much as women when it comes to — suffer as much as women when it comes to what you are wearing, and we — comes to what you are wearing, and we have seen candidates stumbte _ and we have seen candidates stumble and we have seen presidents stumble. i am thinking back to al gore's brown _ thinking back to al gore's brown jacket and president obama's tan suit. brown jacket and president 0bama's tan suit.— brown jacket and president 0bama's tan suit. oh, the tan suit, 0bama's tan suit. oh, the tan suit. yes. _ 0bama's tan suit. oh, the tan suit. yes. oh. _ 0bama's tan suit. oh, the tan suit. yes. oh. my _ 0bama's tan suit. oh, the tan suit, yes, oh, my goodness! i 0bama's tan suit. oh, the tan i suit, yes, oh, my goodness! as if an of suit, yes, oh, my goodness! as if any of this makes a difference, and yetjudgements difference, and yet judgements and difference, and yetjudgements and opinions and reputations are made _ and opinions and reputations are made on it, so it does count. _ are made on it, so it does count. it _ are made on it, so it does count, it does mean you have to keep— count, it does mean you have to keep to — count, it does mean you have to keep to a — count, it does mean you have to keep to a pretty strict uniform stop—

but the malaise again, it goes back— but the malaise again, it goes back to — but the malaise again, it goes back to the iran crisis, where americans— back to the iran crisis, where americans in spite of vietnam and that— americans in spite of vietnam and that certainly was the beginning, but still, we were not used _ beginning, but still, we were not used to thinking of ourselves as less than great, which — ourselves as less than great, which is _ ourselves as less than great, which is why the slogan make america — which is why the slogan make america great again resonates with so— america great again resonates with so many people, where they wanted _ with so many people, where they wanted to — with so many people, where they wanted to resonate with them. but at — wanted to resonate with them. but at the end of mr trump's administration, we had covid, we had — administration, we had covid, we had so _ administration, we had covid, we had so many things that were clearly. — we had so many things that were clearly, america was not any good — clearly, america was not any good position at the time, so he did — good position at the time, so he did lose that election, and he did lose that election, and he uses — he did lose that election, and he uses those slogans even though _ he uses those slogans even though president biden has made significant improvements, president—elect trump has been able to— president—elect trump has been able to articulate the mood and the desire of the american people _ the desire of the american people more effectively. so, he will be — people more effectively. so, he will be back in 13 days and he will be back in 13 days and he will get — will be back in 13 days and he

will get another chance to make good _ will get another chance to make good on — will get another chance to make good on his promises to america and to— good on his promises to america and to the — good on his promises to america and to the world, so we shall see — and to the world, so we shall see it— and to the world, so we shall see. . . and to the world, so we shall see. , , . . see. it is interesting, laura, he did not — see. it is interesting, laura, he did not get _ see. it is interesting, laura, he did not get the _ see. it is interesting, laura, he did not get the nobel- see. it is interesting, laura, i he did not get the nobel peace prize initially for everything he achieved with the camp david accords. it was much later that he belatedly was recognised as a man dedicated to peace. why do you think it took so long? this is really interesting. it was 2002, and maybe people did not realise he had so many years left in him, but he got into thousand and two, obama got a very early and he has done gets on late—night shows about, i do not know why i got it, so it is an interesting one. carterand it, so it is an interesting one. carter and the legacy at the time, the cold war did not seem to be going very well for america, relations with the soviet union as it was then had really soured. there was of his not going to be owned and fixed, for example, after

afghanistan —— not going to be olympics. the soviets retaliated four years later by not going to the next olympics. you see that, coupled with the iran crisis, the bad economy, he did not seem to breaking his way, so at the time, it did not look like, and of course people wanted to see whether the camp david accords would last, so his legacy in that sense is really, the camp david accords earned him that respecting the long run. it david accords earned him that respecting the long run. it may be why people _ respecting the long run. it may be why people are _ respecting the long run. it may be why people are reassessing| be why people are reassessing it in light of the current crisis in the middle east. it is the one accord that has stood the test of time. we are continuing to watch these pictures. there is still some time before it will arrive at the east doors of the us capitol there, the marching bands, the marching escort that is accompanying the casket onboard the case on that is

being pulled down pennsylvania avenue. we will take a short break. across the world and around the uk, this is bbc news.

that me just show you the live pictures looking at in washington, we are continuing to watch these. as i say, it will be sometime, i think, before the casket arrives at the steps of the us capitol, so while we watch these pictures, on the right—hand side of your screen, maybe we should talk about some of the day's other news, because there have been plenty of things going on, not least in the tech world. the us tech giant has announced it will remove fact checking from all of its services. the changes will begin in the us imminently and they will affect facebook, instagram and threads. the decision comes

days before donald trump osman returned to office. in a video message, mark zuckerberg said the recent us elections felt to him like a "cultural tipping point. evenif even if they censor millions of... too many mistakes and too much censorship. the recent elections also feel like a cultural tipping point towards once again prioritising speech. we are going to get back to our roots and focus on reducing mistakes, simple finding our policies and restoring free expression on our platforms. we can speak to our north america business correspondent ritika gupta. good to have you with us. we have seen this, as i say come on x, that they sacked all the fact checkers, they replaced them with this commuting notes system. how do those people who keep an eye on the social media sites do they think that system

works? it sites do they think that system works? , , ., , ., . works? it depends who you mean, kee-ain works? it depends who you mean, keeping an — works? it depends who you mean, keeping an eye — works? it depends who you mean, keeping an eye on _ works? it depends who you mean, keeping an eye on those _ works? it depends who you mean, keeping an eye on those social- keeping an eye on those social media sites. you have the conservatives handling this. they wanted to have unfettered free speech, they feel that is how they get their message across, but you have those misinformation experts, even the likes of outgoing fdc chair lena con, very much criticising this, saying this is going to add to the cesspool of misinformation that facebook has, but clearly this is a move that you see with facebook trying to get a bit on the good side of the incoming administration —— lina kahn. which is normal. a new administration, all the regulars naturally try and react or lobby hard a new administration. the difference in this case is that these billionaires have such a massive influence on how people receive information, how they consume the news, so this is

more than just about money. yes, it is indeed, and zuckerberg, first of all, has all but said that this is trying to get on the good side of the administration. he said he must now prioritise free speech over moderating or taking down misinformation, and this isjust taking down misinformation, and this is just the latest in a series of moves. he just had yesterday facebook announcing that dana white, trump alec of ufc bosco would be on the board, there was a trip tomorrow lago by zuckerberg, a 1,000,000—dollar donation from his inauguration, so these are steps to get on the good side and republicans, they are going to be leading both the house and the senate, so they are going have a lot of power when it comes to investigations as well as court hearings the likes of those that zuckerberg would be invited to an open to public scrutiny, then there is also the case of regulation

exposure they may fear under a trump administration, cities are the reasons that they are trying to get on the good graces of the incoming president —— mar—a—lago. as you mentioned as well, those much more sceptical about it and what it could mean for the future of media, of course, meta and its platform in the billions of years across the world, so a big influence on the shape of the media, the internet and the public. just on that, finally, _ internet and the public. just on that, finally, he - internet and the public. just on that, finally, he said in his statement he wants to work with president trump to push back on government after the world that are going after american companies and pushing to censor more. that does sound like a threat to the european union. ! like a threat to the european union. ., ., like a threat to the european union. . . ., union. i mean, at the moment, i think it is — union. i mean, at the moment, i think it is important _ union. i mean, at the moment, i think it is important to _ union. i mean, at the moment, i think it is important to note - think it is important to note that these changes are very much applying to the us at the moment and it won't necessarily apply to europe, because meta

is under the eu regulations that require it to combat misinformation, but even though there is a pressure for free speech there and we have heard from the likes of elon musk, who have criticised the eu, the uk, saying that it limits their users ability for free speech on their platforms, but musk has said there is no immediate plan for these changes to be rolled out globally and to the eu and that they would be subject eu laws.— in new york, take you so much for that. you will see from your pictures on the right that the casket has arrived at the steps of the rotunda. i think it is going to take some time, though, for the honour guard to disengage the casket from the caisson and move it towards the steps, so we will continue to look at some of the other day's news, particularly this press conference we had this afternoon at mar—a—lago in florida.

the president—elect�*s second news conference since winning the election. fairto fair to say the headlines from it will be ringing alarm bells in foreign capitals. mr trump refused to rule out using military force to retake the panama canal. he said he would "tariff denmark at a very high level" if it does not give greenland to the united states. so let's hear some of what he had to say. the panama canal is a disgrace, what took place at the panama canal. jemmy carter gave it to them for $1 and they were supposed to treat us well. i thought it was a terrible thing to do. if those hostages aren't back — i don't want to hurt your negotiation — if they're not back by the time i get into office, all hell will break out in the middle east. well, we need greenland for national security purposes. i've been told that for a long time. are you also considering military force to annex and acquire canada? no, economic force, because canada and the united states, that would really be something. but why are we supporting a country 200 billion—plus a year?

our military is at their disposal, all of these other things. they should be a state. that's what i told trudeau. i hope to have six months. no, iwould think, i hope, long before six months. look, russia is losing a lot of young people and so is ukraine. that was what we heard from donald trump earlier at mar—a—lago. little earlier i spoke to gary o'donoghue, who told me donald trump osman comments will be ringing alarm bells in capitals around the world. —— donald trump's comments. there's a couple of things that are important to note here. look, donald trump will be the president of the united states in 13 days' time. that makes anything he says news. anything he says is important. it is also worth saying, i think, that one of the things we know from his first term, and indeed the years

after that, is that sometimes there is some posturing, sometimes you might even describe that as sort of negotiation out loud, megaphone diplomacy, whatever you want to call it, that does not come to anything. sometimes it does come to something. so i think the context is important, but we cannot be sure, i don't think, how serious he is about some of these things. he is clearly serious about things like nato, because that has been consistent and he did get some concessions from nato. whether he really means canada should be the 51st state, ijust don't know, and i don't think anyone knows, and i'd be amazed even if anyone in his inner circle really knows the answer to that. these things, we have to take them seriously, but we also have to remember that this is a very, very sophisticated and effective way of sucking up the oxygen of publicity, the news cycle, of dominating free media in this country and around the world,

and as you say, keeping lots and lots of diplomats, lots and lots of heads of government and lots and lots of capitals around the globe on their toes. it came as donald trumer arrived in greenland. his trip is being billed as a private visit and he isn't due to meet any officials there. here's what trumer had to say when he landed. we are little pressed for time because — we are little pressed for time because we only have a couple hours — because we only have a couple hours of — because we only have a couple hours of daylight, but we are really — hours of daylight, but we are really excited to be here. think— really excited to be here. think you guys so much. here is tourists, — think you guys so much. here is tourists, seeing it. looks like an incredible place. i was supposed to be here last spring _ supposed to be here last spring. something i like to in my free — spring. something i like to in my free time, but really excited _ my free time, but really excited to be here. awesome country _ excited to be here. awesome country. the scenery coming in was _ country. the scenery coming in wasjust— country. the scenery coming in wasjust spectacular, severe excited _ wasjust spectacular, severe excited to be here. thank you. he says — excited to be here. thank you. he says hello. we were talking to them — he says hello. we were talking to them yesterday. he says hello — to them yesterday. he says hello to _ to them yesterday. he says hello to everyone in greenland. there is tourists — quite the

coincidence! nevertheless, trumer�*s arrival in greenland's capital, nuuk, prompted the danish prime minister, mette frederiksen, to break her silence to say the autonomous territory was "not for sale". translation: greenland belongs to greenlandic _ translation: greenland belongs to greenlandic people. _ translation: greenland belongs to greenlandic people. it - translation: greenland belongs to greenlandic people. it is - to greenlandic people. it is their— to greenlandic people. it is their land. _ to greenlandic people. it is their land, their— to greenlandic people. it is their land, their culture- to greenlandic people. it is| their land, their culture and their— their land, their culture and their language _ their land, their culture and their language for- their land, their culture and their language for let- their land, their culture and their language for let me i their land, their culture and| their language for let me be clear — their language for let me be clear. greenland _ their language for let me be clear. greenland is - their language for let me be clear. greenland is not - their language for let me be clear. greenland is not for. clear. greenland is not for sale _ clear. greenland is not for sale the _ clear. greenland is not for sale. the us _ clear. greenland is not for sale. the us is _ clear. greenland is not for sale. the us is our- clear. greenland is not for| sale. the us is our closest ally— sale. the us is our closest ally especially— sale. the us is our closest ally especially on - sale. the us is our closest ally especially on defence i sale. the us is our closest. ally especially on defence and security— ally especially on defence and security matters _ ally especially on defence and security matters in _ ally especially on defence and security matters in the - ally especially on defence and security matters in the northl security matters in the north atlantic, _ security matters in the north atlantic, where _ security matters in the north atlantic, where tensions - security matters in the north atlantic, where tensions are| atlantic, where tensions are rising — atlantic, where tensions are rising above _ atlantic, where tensions are rising above the _ atlantic, where tensions are rising above the greenland i rising above the greenland remains _ rising above the greenland remains for— rising above the greenland remains for the _ rising above the greenlandl remains for the greenlandic people _ greenland is the world's largest island — it sits between the atlantic and arctic oceans and it's 80% covered by an ice sheet. the autonomous territory has some 56,000 residents, most of them indigenous inuit people. this was the reaction from one foreign ministry official. there have been offers from the us before in history. and there has been dispute between

denmark and norway, but greenland is an inuit country, so greenland is the country of the inuit, which, where we have common ancestry with nu it's in canada alaska. with me in the studio, laura smith, presidential historian, and also with us, the former us ambassador and long—time middle east envoy gina abercrombie winstanley. i don't know whether your diplomat a career ever took you to the arctic circle, ambassador, buti ever took you to the arctic circle, ambassador, but ijust wondered what you make of what you've just heard there, the reaction of the danish government, which would be considered an ally of the united states?— considered an ally of the united states? ~ . , united states? indeed. an ally. ke ord united states? indeed. an ally. keyword there! _ united states? indeed. an ally. keyword there! i _ united states? indeed. an ally. keyword there! i felt _ united states? indeed. an ally. keyword there! i felt their - keyword there! i felt their response was very measured, as it should _ response was very measured, as it should be, diplomatically speaking, and usually what

—— with our allies, we are not looking — —— with our allies, we are not looking to _ —— with our allies, we are not looking to make them a nervous, not looking — looking to make them a nervous, not looking to raise their blood _ not looking to raise their blood pressure was statement, but as — blood pressure was statement, but as your earlier guest noted, _ but as your earlier guest noted, the president elect does noted, the president elect does not mind — noted, the president elect does not mind doing it. it is one of the ways— not mind doing it. it is one of the ways that he comports himsetf~ _ the ways that he comports himself. that means us is deponents will have very challenging jobs for the next four— challenging jobs for the next four years, and the training is good, — four years, and the training is good, so _ four years, and the training is good, so i'm sure everyone is ”p good, so i'm sure everyone is up to— good, so i'm sure everyone is up to it — good, so i'm sure everyone is upto it -- _ good, so i'm sure everyone is up to it —— us diplomats. some of the _ up to it —— us diplomats. some of the things that he says may come — of the things that he says may come about, but a lot of it, as we know. _ come about, but a lot of it, as we know. is— come about, but a lot of it, as we know, is not consistent. he is somewhat mere curio in what he says— is somewhat mere curio in what he says and _ is somewhat mere curio in what he says and what he does, and we all— he says and what he does, and we all need to keep that in mind _ we all need to keep that in mind. ~ ., we all need to keep that in mind. ~ . _, ., mind. we are continuing to watch events _ mind. we are continuing to watch events at _ mind. we are continuing to watch events at the - mind. we are continuing to watch events at the us - mind. we are continuing to - watch events at the us capitol, jimmy carter's coffin has just arrived at the foot of those steps, accompanied by the honorary pallbearers, who will now shortly till he may

up up the steps into the rotunda. the family have disembark from their vehicles, those of them who travelled the car, they are in the plaza, watching these events, and of course inside the us capital, waiting, some of the seniorfigures the us capital, waiting, some of the senior figures from the us congress, so of course the new senate leaderjohn soon, who will be delivering a eulogy this afternoon, and also the vice president, kamala harris ——john thune. vice president, kamala harris —— john thune. we are about to get a gun salute at the casket is taken off the caisson, but, laura, the poignancy of this? it does not happen very often,

there not many living presidents left, and how do you think us congress will react to this? , . ., this? there is a deafening cravitas this? there is a deafening gravitas in _ this? there is a deafening gravitas in this _ this? there is a deafening gravitas in this moment. i this? there is a deafening i gravitas in this moment. we this? there is a deafening - gravitas in this moment. we can see it through the sort of absolute rigidity of how this programme is being followed, despite the potential disruption of weather but it is being followed to the letter, and just as any president would expect and they plan for many years beforehand for this, so we do see this sense of tradition, the sense of respect, and we see the sort of, if you want to say, as warren harding said, normalcy, the normalcy of this that could contrast with trump's upcoming inaugural, this very big distinction between these two very different men of opposing parties and opposing times. you will see that _ parties and opposing times. you will see that there is just at the top of the steps on the left and the right of a small crowd that has gathered. they are the surviving members of thejimmy carter cabinet, also the jimmy carter cabinet, also thejimmy carter cabinet, also the carterfamily will thejimmy carter cabinet, also the carter family will be

following the pallbearers into the us capital. we are at the eastern entrance. this casket, onceit eastern entrance. this casket, once it is positioned and once we have had a short service this afternoon, in a few hours' time, will be open to the public, until midnight each day, tuesday, wednesday and the early part of thursday, until it is transferred to the national cathedral, where there will be the final service in washington, attended of course by president biden and the first lady, and then the casket will be transferred back to plains, georgia, and as i said earlier, he will be buried alongside rosalynn, very close to the pond that he could see from his porch in the final days of his life where he sat in plains, georgia.

the end will be a family affair.