us chill wind banks with us, us general counsel of the army under presidentjimmy carter. thank give us your thoughts in ceremony we had today honouring the late president. had today honouring the late president-— had today honouring the late president. had today honouring the late resident. . ., , ., , president. the ceremony was lovely. every single — president. the ceremony was lovely. every single eulogy _ president. the ceremony was lovely. every single eulogy was _ president. the ceremony was lovely. every single eulogy was perfect. - president. the ceremony was lovely. every single eulogy was perfect. the| every single eulogy was perfect. the eulogy— every single eulogy was perfect. the eulogy was_ every single eulogy was perfect. the eulogy was perfect. _ every single eulogy was perfect. the eulogy was perfect. the _ every single eulogy was perfect. the eulogy was perfect. the music- every single eulogy was perfect. the eulogy was perfect. the music was l eulogy was perfect. the music was perfect _ eulogy was perfect. the music was perfect i_ eulogy was perfect. the music was perfect i was_ eulogy was perfect. the music was perfect. i was especially— eulogy was perfect. the music was perfect. i was especially touched l eulogy was perfect. the music wasl perfect. i was especially touched by the posthumous _ perfect. i was especially touched by the posthumous remarks _ perfect. i was especially touched by the posthumous remarks read - perfect. i was especially touched by the posthumous remarks read by. perfect. i was especially touched by. the posthumous remarks read by the children_ the posthumous remarks read by the children of— the posthumous remarks read by the children of president _ the posthumous remarks read by the children of president ford _ the posthumous remarks read by the children of president ford and - the posthumous remarks read by the children of president ford and vice . children of president ford and vice president — children of president ford and vice president mondale. _ children of president ford and vice president mondale. it _ children of president ford and vice president mondale. it was - children of president ford and vice president mondale. it was really i children of president ford and vice president mondale. it was really a | president mondale. it was really a perfect _ president mondale. it was really a perfect thing _ president mondale. it was really a perfect thing i_ president mondale. it was really a perfect thing. i was _ president mondale. it was really a perfect thing. i was struck- president mondale. it was really a perfect thing. i was struck when . perfect thing. i was struck when they— perfect thing. i was struck when they played _ perfect thing. i was struck when they played hail— perfect thing. i was struck when they played hail to _ perfect thing. i was struck when they played hail to the - perfect thing. i was struck when they played hail to the chief - they played hail to the chief because _ they played hail to the chief because i_ they played hail to the chief because i don't— they played hail to the chief because i don't know- they played hail to the chief because i don't know how. they played hail to the chief - because i don't know how many of they played hail to the chief _ because i don't know how many of you or your— because i don't know how many of you or your viewers — because i don't know how many of you or your viewers will— because i don't know how many of you or your viewers will remember - because i don't know how many of you or your viewers will remember but - or your viewers will remember but that was— or your viewers will remember but that was something _ or your viewers will remember but that was something that _ or your viewers will remember but that was something that president carter— that was something that president carter found — that was something that president carter found to— that was something that president carter found to be _ that was something that president carter found to be not _ that was something that presidentl carter found to be not appropriate. he wanted — carter found to be not appropriate. he wanted to — carter found to be not appropriate. he wanted to do _ carter found to be not appropriate. he wanted to do away _ carter found to be not appropriate. he wanted to do away with - carter found to be not appropriate. he wanted to do away with the - carter found to be not appropriate. l he wanted to do away with the pomp and circumstance, _ he wanted to do away with the pomp and circumstance, especially- and circumstance, especially following _ and circumstance, especially following on _ and circumstance, especially following on president- and circumstance, especially following on president nixon and circumstance, especially- following on president nixon who

would _ following on president nixon who would put — following on president nixon who would put special— following on president nixon who would put special gold _ following on president nixon who would put special gold ribbons. following on president nixon who would put special gold ribbons on his guards— would put special gold ribbons on his guards and _ would put special gold ribbons on his guards and things. _ would put special gold ribbons on his guards and things. but - would put special gold ribbons on his guards and things. but he - would put special gold ribbons oni his guards and things. but he had would put special gold ribbons on i his guards and things. but he had to back off— his guards and things. but he had to back off that — his guards and things. but he had to back off that because _ his guards and things. but he had to back off that because the _ his guards and things. but he had to back off that because the americanl back off that because the american public— back off that because the american public wanted — back off that because the american public wanted the _ back off that because the american public wanted the president - back off that because the american public wanted the president to - back off that because the american public wanted the president to be i public wanted the president to be honoured. — public wanted the president to be honoured. an _ public wanted the president to be honoured, an appropriate - public wanted the president to be honoured, an appropriate way - public wanted the president to be honoured, an appropriate way toi public wanted the president to be i honoured, an appropriate way to it was very— honoured, an appropriate way to it was very good _ honoured, an appropriate way to it was very good i_ honoured, an appropriate way to it was very good. i was _ honoured, an appropriate way to it was very good. i was very- honoured, an appropriate way to it was very good. i was very happy. honoured, an appropriate way to it . was very good. i was very happy that stu mention— was very good. i was very happy that stu mention how— was very good. i was very happy that stu mention how much _ was very good. i was very happy that stu mention how much president - stu mention how much president carter— stu mention how much president carter did — stu mention how much president carter did for— stu mention how much president carter did for women. _ stu mention how much president carter did for women. he - stu mention how much president. carter did for women. he appointed five times— carter did for women. he appointed five times more _ carter did for women. he appointed five times more women— carter did for women. he appointed five times more women as - carter did for women. he appointed five times more women as judges l carter did for women. he appointed| five times more women asjudges in all of— five times more women asjudges in all of his— five times more women asjudges in all of his predecessors _ five times more women asjudges in all of his predecessors combined. i all of his predecessors combined. his cabinet — all of his predecessors combined. his cabinet and _ all of his predecessors combined. his cabinet and his— all of his predecessors combined. his cabinet and his sub _ all of his predecessors combined. his cabinet and his sub cabinet i his cabinet and his sub cabinet level. — his cabinet and his sub cabinet level, including _ his cabinet and his sub cabinet level, including me, _ his cabinet and his sub cabineti level, including me, composed his cabinet and his sub cabinet - level, including me, composed more women— level, including me, composed more women than— level, including me, composed more women than ever— level, including me, composed more women than ever in— level, including me, composed more women than ever in the _ level, including me, composed more women than ever in the history. - level, including me, composed more women than ever in the history. wel women than ever in the history. we formed _ women than ever in the history. we formed an— women than ever in the history. we formed an old — women than ever in the history. we formed an old girl's— women than ever in the history. we formed an old girl's that _ formed an old girl's that were because — formed an old girl's that were because it _ formed an old girl's that were because it was _ formed an old girl's that were because it was the _ formed an old girl's that were because it was the first - formed an old girl's that were because it was the first time. formed an old girl's that were - because it was the first time they were _ because it was the first time they were enough— because it was the first time they were enough women _ because it was the first time they were enough women to _ because it was the first time they were enough women to do - because it was the first time they were enough women to do that. i because it was the first time they l were enough women to do that. do because it was the first time they were enough women to do that. do you think he gets — were enough women to do that. do you think he gets enough _ were enough women to do that. do you think he gets enough credit _ were enough women to do that. do you think he gets enough credit for- think he gets enough credit for that, jill? i think he gets enough credit for that, jill? ., �* ., �* that, jill? i don't. i don't get enou:h that, jill? i don't. i don't get enough credit _ that, jill? i don't. i don't get enough credit for _ that, jill? i don't. i don't get enough credit for all - that, jill? i don't. i don't get enough credit for all of - that, jill? i don't. i don't get enough credit for all of his i enough credit for all of his accomplishments - enough credit for all of his accomplishments but -

enough credit for all of his accomplishments but you i enough credit for all of his i accomplishments but you had mentioned _ accomplishments but you had mentioned today. _ accomplishments but you had mentioned today. there - accomplishments but you had mentioned today. there werei accomplishments but you had _ mentioned today. there were numerous ones _ mentioned today. there were numerous ones he _ mentioned today. there were numerous ones~ he obviously— mentioned today. there were numerous ones he obviously is _ mentioned today. there were numerous ones. he obviously is recognised - mentioned today. there were numerous ones. he obviously is recognised for- ones. he obviously is recognised for camp— ones. he obviously is recognised for camp david, — ones. he obviously is recognised for camp david, which— ones. he obviously is recognised for camp david, which is— ones. he obviously is recognised for camp david, which is the _ ones. he obviously is recognised for camp david, which is the basis- ones. he obviously is recognised for camp david, which is the basis for. camp david, which is the basis for the settlement— camp david, which is the basis for the settlement and _ camp david, which is the basis for the settlement and hopefully - camp david, which is the basis for the settlement and hopefully now| camp david, which is the basis for- the settlement and hopefully now the middle _ the settlement and hopefully now the middle east, — the settlement and hopefully now the middle east, but— the settlement and hopefully now the middle east, but has— the settlement and hopefully now the middle east, but has been— the settlement and hopefully now the middle east, but has been a - the settlement and hopefully now the middle east, but has been a lasting . middle east, but has been a lasting legacy— middle east, but has been a lasting legacy of— middle east, but has been a lasting legacy of peace _ middle east, but has been a lasting legacy of peace between _ middle east, but has been a lasting legacy of peace between egypt - middle east, but has been a lasting legacy of peace between egypt and | legacy of peace between egypt and israel _ legacy of peace between egypt and israel he — legacy of peace between egypt and israel he did — legacy of peace between egypt and israel. he did a _ legacy of peace between egypt and israel. he did a lot _ legacy of peace between egypt and israel. he did a lot for— legacy of peace between egypt and israel. he did a lot for climate, - israel. he did a lot for climate, which _ israel. he did a lot for climate, which i — israel. he did a lot for climate, which i hope _ israel. he did a lot for climate, which i hope will— israel. he did a lot for climate, which i hope will continue - israel. he did a lot for climate, which i hope will continue to. israel. he did a lot for climate, | which i hope will continue to be israel. he did a lot for climate, . which i hope will continue to be a lasting _ which i hope will continue to be a lasting legacy _ which i hope will continue to be a lasting legacy. he _ which i hope will continue to be a lasting legacy. he did _ which i hope will continue to be a lasting legacy. he did a - which i hope will continue to be a lasting legacy. he did a lot for. lasting legacy. he did a lot for women — lasting legacy. he did a lot for women as— lasting legacy. he did a lot for women as i_ lasting legacy. he did a lot for women as i have _ lasting legacy. he did a lot for women as i have mentioned. i lasting legacy. he did a lot for. women as i have mentioned. he lasting legacy. he did a lot for- women as i have mentioned. he was really— women as i have mentioned. he was really an— women as i have mentioned. he was really an upstanding _ women as i have mentioned. he was really an upstanding person - women as i have mentioned. he was really an upstanding person who - women as i have mentioned. he wasl really an upstanding person who took responsibility— really an upstanding person who took responsibility for— really an upstanding person who took responsibility for what _ really an upstanding person who took responsibility for what he _ really an upstanding person who took responsibility for what he did. - really an upstanding person who took responsibility for what he did. he - responsibility for what he did. he also basically— responsibility for what he did. he also basically invented _ responsibility for what he did. he also basically invented the - responsibility for what he did. he. also basically invented the modern vice presidency— also basically invented the modern vice presidency by— also basically invented the modern vice presidency by giving _ also basically invented the modern vice presidency by giving and - vice presidency by giving and delegating _ vice presidency by giving and delegating a _ vice presidency by giving and delegating a lot _ vice presidency by giving and delegating a lot of _ vice presidency by giving and delegating a lot of authorityl vice presidency by giving and i delegating a lot of authority and power— delegating a lot of authority and power to— delegating a lot of authority and power to vice _ delegating a lot of authority and power to vice president - delegating a lot of authority and i power to vice president mondale, delegating a lot of authority and - power to vice president mondale, he was up _ power to vice president mondale, he was up to— power to vice president mondale, he was up to the — power to vice president mondale, he was up to the task. _ power to vice president mondale, he was up to the task. i— power to vice president mondale, he was up to the task. i got _ power to vice president mondale, he was up to the task. i got to - power to vice president mondale, he was up to the task. i got to know- was up to the task. i got to know vice _ was up to the task. i got to know vice president— was up to the task. i got to know vice president mondale - was up to the task. i got to know vice president mondale both- was up to the task. i got to know. vice president mondale both during the administration, _ vice president mondale both during the administration, but _ vice president mondale both during the administration, but in _ vice president mondale both during the administration, but in recent. the administration, but in recent years— the administration, but in recent years before _ the administration, but in recent years before his— the administration, but in recent years before his passing. - the administration, but in recent years before his passing. he - the administration, but in recent years before his passing. he and the administration, but in recent. years before his passing. he and i taught— years before his passing. he and i taught a _ years before his passing. he and i taught a class— years before his passing. he and i taught a class of— years before his passing. he and i taught a class of the _ years before his passing. he and i taught a class of the university i years before his passing. he and i taught a class of the university of| taught a class of the university of minnesota — taught a class of the university of minnesota law school— taught a class of the university of minnesota law school which - taught a class of the university of minnesota law school which is . taught a class of the university of - minnesota law school which is named the walter— minnesota law school which is named the walter mondale _ minnesota law school which is named

the walter mondale school— minnesota law school which is named the walter mondale school of- minnesota law school which is named the walter mondale school of law. - the walter mondale school of law. about _ the walter mondale school of law. about watergate. _ the walter mondale school of law. about watergate. and _ the walter mondale school of law. about watergate. and his - the walter mondale school of law. about watergate. and his insights were brilliant. _ about watergate. and his insights were brilliant. in— about watergate. and his insights were brilliant. in his _ about watergate. and his insights were brilliant. in his remarks - about watergate. and his insights were brilliant. in his remarks as. were brilliant. in his remarks as read _ were brilliant. in his remarks as read today— were brilliant. in his remarks as read today were _ were brilliant. in his remarks as read today were also _ were brilliant. in his remarks as read today were also really - read today were also really insightful _ read today were also really insightful about _ read today were also really insightful about his - read today were also really insightful about his role . read today were also reallyl insightful about his role and read today were also really - insightful about his role and its relationship _ insightful about his role and its relationship to— insightful about his role and its relationship to president - insightful about his role and itsl relationship to president carter. insightful about his role and its - relationship to president carter. is relationship to president carter. ae; you've relationship to president carter. you've been speaking, we have relationship to president carter.- you've been speaking, we have seen the hearse carrying jimmy carter's casket leaving the washington national cathedral and will go then tojoint national cathedral and will go then to joint base andrews as we know and then had to lawson army airfield in georgia and into that private ceremony at maranatha baptist church. how do you think president carter look back at his own presidents equipment we have heard today that it was a myth to think, and here is the motorcade as we see it go intojoint and here is the motorcade as we see it go into joint base andrews, that it go into joint base andrews, that it was a myth to believe that his post presidency career was more important in his presidency. i post presidency career was more important in his presidency. i think both were important. _ important in his presidency. i think both were important. he _ important in his presidency. i think both were important. he accomplished a great _ both were important. he accomplished a great deal— both were important. he accomplished a great deal in — both were important. he accomplished

a great deal in one _ both were important. he accomplished a great deal in one term. _ both were important. he accomplished a great deal in one term. i— both were important. he accomplished a great deal in one term. i was- both were important. he accomplished a great deal in one term. i was sad - a great deal in one term. i was sad when _ a great deal in one term. i was sad when he _ a great deal in one term. i was sad when he was — a great deal in one term. i was sad when he was not _ a great deal in one term. i was sad when he was not elected _ a great deal in one term. i was sad when he was not elected in - a great deal in one term. i was sad when he was not elected in 1980 l a great deal in one term. i was sadl when he was not elected in 1980 for many— when he was not elected in 1980 for many reasons — when he was not elected in 1980 for many reasons including _ when he was not elected in 1980 for many reasons including that - when he was not elected in 1980 for many reasons including that i- many reasons including that i thought— many reasons including that i thought he _ many reasons including that i thought he was _ many reasons including that i thought he was a _ many reasons including that i thought he was a very - many reasons including that i thought he was a very good l thought he was a very good president _ thought he was a very good president. but _ thought he was a very good president. but he _ thought he was a very good president. but he had - thought he was a very good president. but he had ten l thought he was a very good - president. but he had ten times thought he was a very good _ president. but he had ten times more time as— president. but he had ten times more time as a _ president. but he had ten times more time as a post—president, _ president. but he had ten times more time as a post—president, and - president. but he had ten times more time as a post—president, and he - time as a post—president, and he showed _ time as a post—president, and he showed the — time as a post—president, and he showed the world _ time as a post—president, and he showed the world what _ time as a post—president, and he showed the world what it - time as a post—president, and he showed the world what it meansl time as a post—president, and he i showed the world what it means to time as a post—president, and he - showed the world what it means to be dedicated _ showed the world what it means to be dedicated to _ showed the world what it means to be dedicated to service. _ showed the world what it means to be dedicated to service. one _ showed the world what it means to be dedicated to service. one of— showed the world what it means to be dedicated to service. one of his- dedicated to service. one of his last request _ dedicated to service. one of his last request is _ dedicated to service. one of his last request is put _ dedicated to service. one of his last request is put forward - dedicated to service. one of his last request is put forward by. dedicated to service. one of his. last request is put forward by the carter— last request is put forward by the carter centre _ last request is put forward by the carter centre was _ last request is put forward by the carter centre was that _ last request is put forward by the carter centre was that in - last request is put forward by the carter centre was that in lieu - last request is put forward by the carter centre was that in lieu of. carter centre was that in lieu of flowers. — carter centre was that in lieu of flowers. people _ carter centre was that in lieu of flowers, people donate - carter centre was that in lieu of flowers, people donate an- carter centre was that in lieu of. flowers, people donate an active service — flowers, people donate an active service and _ flowers, people donate an active service. and that _ flowers, people donate an active service. and that really - flowers, people donate an active service. and that really speaks l flowers, people donate an activel service. and that really speaks to who the _ service. and that really speaks to who the president _ service. and that really speaks to who the president was. _ service. and that really speaks to who the president was. president carter— who the president was. president carter was— who the president was. president carter was a _ who the president was. president carter was a man _ who the president was. president carter was a man of— who the president was. president carter was a man of service, - carter was a man of service, dignity. _ carter was a man of service, dignity, humility, _ carter was a man of service, dignity, humility, justice - carter was a man of service, | dignity, humility, justice and wearing _ dignity, humility, justice and wearing a _ dignity, humility, justice and wearing a special— dignity, humility, justice and wearing a special pen - dignity, humility, justice and wearing a special pen today. dignity, humility, justice and i wearing a special pen today as dignity, humility, justice and - wearing a special pen today as one of my— wearing a special pen today as one of my pens— wearing a special pen today as one of my pens that _ wearing a special pen today as one of my pens that says _ wearing a special pen today as one of my pens that says justice, - wearing a special pen today as onei of my pens that says justice, mercy and humility— of my pens that says justice, mercy and humility because _ of my pens that says justice, mercy and humility because that's - of my pens that says justice, mercy and humility because that's from i of my pens that says justice, mercyl and humility because that's from the bible but _ and humility because that's from the bible but i _ and humility because that's from the bible but i believe _ and humility because that's from the bible but i believe it— and humility because that's from the bible but i believe it really— bible but i believe it really captures _ bible but i believe it really captures the _ bible but i believe it really captures the character - bible but i believe it reallyj captures the character and bible but i believe it really- captures the character and dignity and kindness— captures the character and dignity and kindness of— captures the character and dignity and kindness of former— captures the character and dignity and kindness of former presidentl and kindness of former president carter _

and kindness of former president carter the — and kindness of former president carter. �* , ., and kindness of former president carter. a . ,, .,~ and kindness of former president carter. . , . , , ., ,, ., and kindness of former president carter. �* , . , , w ., carter. as we are speaking to you, we are watching _ carter. as we are speaking to you, we are watching images _ carter. as we are speaking to you, we are watching images of - carter. as we are speaking to you, we are watching images of the - we are watching images of the cortege making its way through a snowy washington, dc from the washington national cathedral there down through the city and of course to joint base andrews in maryland for that flight to georgia, to plains, georgia for his final resting place. we know how important plains, georgia was to president carter and first lady carter is well. what is your view of how that was essentially part of his soul and seem to colour everything that he did. it seem to colour everything that he did. , , ., ., , ., , did. it is where his formative years were, and did. it is where his formative years were. and he _ did. it is where his formative years were, and he has— did. it is where his formative years were, and he has been _ did. it is where his formative years were, and he has been there - did. it is where his formative years were, and he has been there again for the _ were, and he has been there again for the last— were, and he has been there again for the last over— were, and he has been there again for the last over 45— were, and he has been there again for the last over 45 years, - were, and he has been there again for the last over 45 years, 44 - for the last over 45 years, 44 years — for the last over 45 years, 44 years and _ for the last over 45 years, 44 years. and it _ for the last over 45 years, 44 years. and it represents- for the last over 45 years, 44 years. and it represents a - for the last over 45 years, 44 - years. and it represents a part of america. — years. and it represents a part of america, small—town _ years. and it represents a part of america, small—town and - years. and it represents a part of

america, small—town and farm, i years. and it represents a part of. america, small—town and farm, that was very— america, small—town and farm, that was very much — america, small—town and farm, that was very much part _ america, small—town and farm, that was very much part of _ america, small—town and farm, that was very much part of him. - america, small—town and farm, that was very much part of him. i- america, small—town and farm, that was very much part of him. i think. was very much part of him. i think again— was very much part of him. i think again the — was very much part of him. i think again the eulogies _ was very much part of him. i think again the eulogies by _ was very much part of him. i think again the eulogies by his- again the eulogies by his grandson, grandsons— again the eulogies by his grandson, grandsons captured _ again the eulogies by his grandson, grandsons captured who _ again the eulogies by his grandson, grandsons captured who he - again the eulogies by his grandson, grandsons captured who he was, i grandsons captured who he was, fishing _ grandsons captured who he was, fishing and — grandsons captured who he was, fishing and farming. _ grandsons captured who he was, fishing and farming. that- grandsons captured who he was, fishing and farming. that is- grandsons captured who he was, fishing and farming. that is very| fishing and farming. that is very much _ fishing and farming. that is very much part— fishing and farming. that is very much part of— fishing and farming. that is very much part of him, _ fishing and farming. that is very much part of him, and _ fishing and farming. that is very much part of him, and of- fishing and farming. that is very much part of him, and of coursej fishing and farming. that is very. much part of him, and of course he will be _ much part of him, and of course he will be buried — much part of him, and of course he will be buried next— much part of him, and of course he will be buried next to _ much part of him, and of course he will be buried next to his— much part of him, and of course he will be buried next to his beloved l will be buried next to his beloved wife rosalyhh _ will be buried next to his beloved wife rosalynn of _ will be buried next to his beloved wife rosalynn of 77 _ will be buried next to his beloved wife rosalynn of 77 years. - will be buried next to his beloved. wife rosalynn of 77 years. imagine will be buried next to his beloved i wife rosalynn of 77 years. imagine a marriage _ wife rosalynn of 77 years. imagine a marriage of— wife rosalynn of 77 years. imagine a marriage of 77— wife rosalynn of 77 years. imagine a marriage of 77 years, _ wife rosalynn of 77 years. imagine a marriage of 77 years, and _ wife rosalynn of 77 years. imagine a marriage of 77 years, and rosalynnl marriage of 77 years, and rosalynn was a _ marriage of 77 years, and rosalynn was a real— marriage of 77 years, and rosalynn was a real partner— marriage of 77 years, and rosalynn was a real partner of _ marriage of 77 years, and rosalynn was a real partner of his. _ marriage of 77 years, and rosalynn was a real partner of his. they- was a real partner of his. they wrote — was a real partner of his. they wrote books— was a real partner of his. they wrote books together. - was a real partner of his. they wrote books together. she - was a real partner of his. they- wrote books together. she attended cabinet _ wrote books together. she attended cabinet meetings. _ wrote books together. she attended cabinet meetings. she _ wrote books together. she attended cabinet meetings. she really- cabinet meetings. she really contributed _ cabinet meetings. she really contributed to _ cabinet meetings. she really contributed to his _ cabinet meetings. she really contributed to his ideas. - cabinet meetings. she really. contributed to his ideas. many cabinet meetings. she really- contributed to his ideas. many think that she _ contributed to his ideas. many think that she was — contributed to his ideas. many think that she was a — contributed to his ideas. many think that she was a better— contributed to his ideas. many think that she was a better politician - that she was a better politician although— that she was a better politician although he _ that she was a better politician although he certainly- that she was a better politician although he certainly had - that she was a better politician although he certainly had the i although he certainly had the charisma _ although he certainly had the charisma and _ although he certainly had the charisma and the _ although he certainly had the charisma and the personalityj although he certainly had the i charisma and the personality for engaging — charisma and the personality for engaging people. _ charisma and the personality for engaging people, and _ charisma and the personality for engaging people, and he - charisma and the personality for engaging people, and he also i charisma and the personality for i engaging people, and he also was charisma and the personality for - engaging people, and he also was a stickier— engaging people, and he also was a stickler for— engaging people, and he also was a stickler for details. _ engaging people, and he also was a stickler for details. during - engaging people, and he also was a stickler for details. during the - stickler for details. during the peace — stickler for details. during the peace negotiations _ stickler for details. during the peace negotiations at - stickler for details. during the peace negotiations at camp . stickler for details. during the - peace negotiations at camp david, he spent _ peace negotiations at camp david, he spent the _ peace negotiations at camp david, he spent the entire — peace negotiations at camp david, he spent the entire time, _ peace negotiations at camp david, he spent the entire time, almost - peace negotiations at camp david, he spent the entire time, almost two - spent the entire time, almost two full weeks. —

spent the entire time, almost two full weeks, negotiating _ spent the entire time, almost two full weeks, negotiating details - spent the entire time, almost two| full weeks, negotiating details and making _ full weeks, negotiating details and making it — full weeks, negotiating details and making it last— full weeks, negotiating details and making it last when _ full weeks, negotiating details and making it last when anwar - full weeks, negotiating details and making it last when anwar sadat . full weeks, negotiating details and . making it last when anwar sadat was about _ making it last when anwar sadat was about to _ making it last when anwar sadat was about to leave — making it last when anwar sadat was about to leave and _ making it last when anwar sadat was about to leave and give _ making it last when anwar sadat was about to leave and give up, - making it last when anwar sadat was about to leave and give up, jimmy. about to leave and give up, jimmy carter— about to leave and give up, jimmy carterwas— about to leave and give up, jimmy carter was persistent _ about to leave and give up, jimmy carter was persistent and - about to leave and give up, jimmy carter was persistent and got - about to leave and give up, jimmyl carter was persistent and got them to stay— carter was persistent and got them to stay and — carter was persistent and got them to stay and brought _ carter was persistent and got them to stay and brought it _ carter was persistent and got them to stay and brought it to _ carter was persistent and got them to stay and brought it to a final- to stay and brought it to a final agreement _ to stay and brought it to a final agreement so— to stay and brought it to a final agreement. so he'll— to stay and brought it to a final agreement. so he'll be - to stay and brought it to a final- agreement. so he'll be remembered both for— agreement. so he'll be remembered both for his — agreement. so he'll be remembered both for his contributions _ agreement. so he'll be remembered both for his contributions through i both for his contributions through the carter— both for his contributions through the carterand_ both for his contributions through the carter and his _ both for his contributions through the carter and his presidency- both for his contributions through the carter and his presidency to. the carter and his presidency to peace — the carter and his presidency to peace to — the carter and his presidency to peace to the _ the carter and his presidency to peace, to the eradication - the carter and his presidency to peace, to the eradication of - the carter and his presidency to- peace, to the eradication of disease that used _ peace, to the eradication of disease that used to — peace, to the eradication of disease that used to kill— peace, to the eradication of disease that used to kill millions _ peace, to the eradication of disease that used to kill millions of - that used to kill millions of people and i_ that used to kill millions of people and i believe — that used to kill millions of people and i believe this— that used to kill millions of people and i believe this year— that used to kill millions of people and i believe this year maybe 14 l and i believe this year maybe 14 people — and i believe this year maybe 14 people because _ and i believe this year maybe 14 people because of— and i believe this year maybe 14 people because of the - and i believe this year maybe 14 people because of the efforts. and i believe this year maybe 14 people because of the efforts of jimmy— people because of the efforts of jimmy carter— people because of the efforts of jimmy carterand_ people because of the efforts of jimmy carter and the _ people because of the efforts of jimmy carter and the carter- people because of the efforts of- jimmy carter and the carter centre. and that _ jimmy carter and the carter centre. and that will — jimmy carter and the carter centre. and that will be — jimmy carter and the carter centre. and that will be his _ jimmy carter and the carter centre. and that will be his legacy. - jimmy carter and the carter centre. and that will be his legacy. georgia j and that will be his legacy. georgia is his— and that will be his legacy. georgia is his home — and that will be his legacy. georgia is his home, and _ and that will be his legacy. georgia is his home, and he _ and that will be his legacy. georgia is his home, and he is _ and that will be his legacy. georgia is his home, and he is returning - is his home, and he is returning to the place — is his home, and he is returning to the place he — is his home, and he is returning to the place he loves. _ is his home, and he is returning to the place he loves. find _ is his home, and he is returning to the place he loves.— the place he loves. and we are seeint the place he loves. and we are seeing that _ the place he loves. and we are seeing that recession - the place he loves. and we are seeing that recession as - the place he loves. and we are seeing that recession as it - seeing that recession as it continues to travel. jill, thank you so much for sharing your stories in your perspective with us today. we really appreciate it and our condolences of course as well. thank ou. he is condolences of course as well. thank you- he is a — condolences of course as well. thank you- he is a loss _ condolences of course as well. thank you. he is a loss to _ condolences of course as well. thank you. he is a loss to the _

condolences of course as well. thank you. he is a loss to the world. - you. he is a loss to the world. indeed — you. he is a loss to the world. indeed we _ you. he is a loss to the world. indeed. we will— you. he is a loss to the world. indeed. we will continue - you. he is a loss to the world. indeed. we will continue to. you. he is a loss to the world. i indeed. we will continue to keep you. he is a loss to the world. - indeed. we will continue to keep an eye on that. we do in the meantime however want to return to the other major story that we are covering today, the wildfires in los angeles. let's check in on that now we can have a look at the scenes in and around los angeles where the authorities have been battling five major wildfires. these are some of the latest images coming to us. in the latest images coming to us. in the last few hours when we have been covering the funeral of president carter,... officials have held a news briefing in the last couple of hours describing the main palisades fire as "one of the most destructive natural disasters" in la's history. that fire remains uncontained. there's been no update on the number of fatalities. the numbers injured has risen, and close to 200,000 people are now under evacuation orders. there have been successes, though. some of the smaller fires have been brought under control, but entire blocks, streets have been

scorched or destroyed. these fast—moving flames fanned by powerful santa ana and have levelled more than 2000 structures, many of them multi—million dollar homes. let me also show you these images showing dawn looking out on the hills around los angeles in the last two hours, as californians face the prospect of another day of fire, with meteorologists warning that the "critical" windy and dry conditions are not over. la city fire chief kristin m crowley has been speaking about the fire in palisades and says that at the moment, it is not contained and described it as one of the most destructive fires in the history of los angeles. let's have a listen. the palisades fire, as we know, started january 7th at 1030 hours in the morning.

the size at this point is 17,234 acres. we are in unified command. lafd, cal fire, la county fire, lapd and la sheriffs. 0% containment. extreme fire behaviour continues to challenge firefighting efforts for the palisades area. wind gusts are up to 60 mph and are expected to resume throughout the entire day. firefighters and air resources will continue to work to protect the community and infrastructures and gain control so that we can contain this fire. damage assessments are ongoing at the palisades fire. however, preliminary reports estimate the damage or destroyed structures to be in the thousands. it is safe to say that the palisades fire is one of the most destructive

natural disasters in the history of los angeles. we will continue to provide additional information as it becomes available. there you have it. quite the destructive seeing in at los angeles and california. joining me now are our north america correspondents peter bowes and david willis. can you tell us about what it is like now? last week speaking under cover of darkness and obviously daytime now. i cover of darkness and obviously daytime now— cover of darkness and obviously daytime now. i was talking earlier about the winds _ daytime now. i was talking earlier about the winds in _ daytime now. i was talking earlier about the winds in the _ daytime now. i was talking earlier about the winds in the really - about the winds in the really uhprihtable _ about the winds in the really unprintable wins. _ about the winds in the really unprintable wins. we - about the winds in the really unprintable wins. we know. about the winds in the really i unprintable wins. we know that about the winds in the really - unprintable wins. we know that they have died _ unprintable wins. we know that they have died down— unprintable wins. we know that they have died down from _ unprintable wins. we know that they have died down from the _ unprintable wins. we know that they have died down from the hurricane i have died down from the hurricane force _ have died down from the hurricane force a _ have died down from the hurricane force a quite — have died down from the hurricane force a quite unprecedented - force a quite unprecedented hurricane _ force a quite unprecedented hurricane force _ force a quite unprecedented hurricane force winds - force a quite unprecedentedl hurricane force winds around force a quite unprecedented - hurricane force winds around los angeles — hurricane force winds around los angeles from _ hurricane force winds around los angeles from the _ hurricane force winds around los angeles from the last _ hurricane force winds around los angeles from the last couple - hurricane force winds around los angeles from the last couple of. hurricane force winds around los - angeles from the last couple of days butjust_ angeles from the last couple of days but just out — angeles from the last couple of days but just out here _ angeles from the last couple of days butjust out here right— angeles from the last couple of days butjust out here right now— angeles from the last couple of days butjust out here right now there - butjust out here right now there are still— butjust out here right now there are still wendy— butjust out here right now there are still wendy goss _ butjust out here right now there are still wendy 6055 and - butjust out here right now there are still wendy 6055 and i - butjust out here right now there are still wendy 6055 and i can i butjust out here right now there i are still wendy 6055 and i can feel it howling — are still wendy 6055 and i can feel it howling around _ are still wendy 6055 and i can feel it howling around me. _ are still wendy 6055 and i can feel it howling around me. so- are still wendy 6055 and i can feel it howling around me. so it's - are still wendy 6055 and i can feel it howling around me. so it's not i it howling around me. so it's not over _ it howling around me. so it's not over these _ it howling around me. so it's not over. these lands— it howling around me. so it's not over. these lands are _ it howling around me. so it's not over. these lands are going - it howling around me. so it's not over. these lands are going to l over. these lands are going to continue — over. these lands are going to continue at _ over. these lands are going to continue at least _ over. these lands are going to continue at least for _ over. these lands are going to continue at least for the - over. these lands are going to continue at least for the next. continue at least for the next

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known as antelope valley where one of those smaller fires we have heard about _ of those smaller fires we have heard about blew _ of those smaller fires we have heard about blew up — of those smaller fires we have heard about blew up yesterday _ of those smaller fires we have heard about blew up yesterday afternoon. i about blew up yesterday afternoon. there _ about blew up yesterday afternoon. there is _ about blew up yesterday afternoon. there is some — about blew up yesterday afternoon. there is some containment, - about blew up yesterday afternoon. j there is some containment, though about blew up yesterday afternoon. . there is some containment, though it is not _ there is some containment, though it is not posing — there is some containment, though it is not posing a — there is some containment, though it is not posing a risk— there is some containment, though it is not posing a risk people _ there is some containment, though it is not posing a risk people any- is not posing a risk people any more — is not posing a risk people any more. further— is not posing a risk people any more. further out _ is not posing a risk people any more. further out to - is not posing a risk people any| more. further out to the south is not posing a risk people any- more. further out to the south and the east _ more. further out to the south and the east is — more. further out to the south and the east is the _ more. further out to the south and the east is the fire _ more. further out to the south and the east is the fire around - the east is the fire around pasadena. _ the east is the fire around pasadena, which - the east is the fire around pasadena, which is - the east is the fire around pasadena, which is reallyl the east is the fire around - pasadena, which is really still raging — pasadena, which is really still raging out _ pasadena, which is really still raging out of— pasadena, which is really still raging out of control. - pasadena, which is really still raging out of control. the - raging out of control. the zero copayment _ raging out of control. the zero copayment there. _ raging out of control. the zero copayment there. many - raging out of control. the zerol copayment there. many people raging out of control. the zero - copayment there. many people have lost their— copayment there. many people have lost their homes. _ copayment there. many people have lost their homes. further— copayment there. many people have lost their homes. further south, - lost their homes. further south, about— lost their homes. further south, about 30 — lost their homes. further south, about 30 miles _ lost their homes. further south, about 30 miles from _ lost their homes. further south, about 30 miles from here - lost their homes. further south, about 30 miles from here just i lost their homes. further south, j about 30 miles from here just to -ive about 30 miles from here just to give you — about 30 miles from here just to give you some _ about 30 miles from here just to give you some perspective, - about 30 miles from here just to give you some perspective, is i give you some perspective, is hollywood. _ give you some perspective, is hollywood. or— give you some perspective, is hollywood, or that _ give you some perspective, is hollywood, or that fire - give you some perspective, is hollywood, or that fire blew i give you some perspective, is. hollywood, or that fire blew up give you some perspective, is - hollywood, or that fire blew up last night _ hollywood, or that fire blew up last night those — hollywood, or that fire blew up last night. those well— known _ hollywood, or that fire blew up last night. those well— known places - night. those well—known places around — night.