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the first phase. 1&2 days the first phase. 52 days in in the first phase. 52 days in which they will be a release of israeli hostages. they will be a release also of palestinian prisoners and detainees. it appears that some will be allowed, some palestinians, will be allowed to go back into northern gaza under an unspecified, so far anyway, at least we don't know what the details would be, security arrangement. the israelis have said these people will have to be vetted. it is clear, as you have been hearing from previous guest, that the israelis were very much staying in gaza. a whole raft of new questions now has been opened aboutjust exactly what. there has been a lot of talk since the beginning of the war about what happens on the day after. has not said exactly what you would like, he set the indication as in longer occupation, the outgoing us
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secretary of state, antony blinken, said in his speech yesterday that there has to be a remaking of the middle east, and that would require all sites to make big sacrifices, including israel to permit the establishment of a palestinian state, something that benjamin netanyahu is adamantly opposed to. fix, netanyahu is adamantly opposed to. �* ., , ., , to. a multitude of questions, and perhaps _ to. a multitude of questions, and perhaps in _ to. a multitude of questions, and perhaps in these - to. a multitude of questions, and perhaps in these news i and perhaps in these news conferences we get some of the answers, and us go to sarah smith in washington, and before i continue, let me sit to viewers we are expecting to hear from joe viewers we are expecting to hearfrom joe biden in viewers we are expecting to hear from joe biden in the oval office in the next ten minutes or so, that is the latest i heard, but it could be pushed back, but sarah, we have heard nothing officially from the white house, the president donald trump, quick out of the gates to describe it as an epic agreement and taking credit, and most of the analysis we have had so far on the
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programme, acknowledging the difference that his incoming presidency and his envoy has actually made in the dynamic here. . , , ., actually made in the dynamic here. . , , , here. that seems to be very fair for once. _ here. that seems to be very fair for once. donald - here. that seems to be very fair for once. donald trump | fair for once. donald trump trying — fair for once. donald trump trying to— fair for once. donald trump trying to take the credit for this— trying to take the credit for this and _ trying to take the credit for this and he can take some responsibility for adding enough pressure onto these talks— enough pressure onto these talks stooge finally get a deal done — talks stooge finally get a deal done if— talks stooge finally get a deal done if you days before he takes _ done if you days before he takes office. he had publicly said. — takes office. he had publicly said. as _ takes office. he had publicly said, as he puts it, all had would _ said, as he puts it, all had would rico lewis if the hostages were not released before _ hostages were not released before he was sworn into office. _ before he was sworn into office, which happens on monday, and sources are under talks_ monday, and sources are under talks say— monday, and sources are under talks say that was just enough leverage — talks say that was just enough leverage an extra pressure to concentrate minds and push this deal over— concentrate minds and push this deal over the line. asjeremy deal over the line. as jeremy said. — deal over the line. as jeremy said. the _ deal over the line. asjeremy said, the outline, the framework of what has been agreed — framework of what has been agreed was put forward by the biden— agreed was put forward by the biden administration back in me, — biden administration back in me. and _ biden administration back in me, and joe biden biden administration back in me, andjoe biden himself biden administration back in me, and joe biden himself will be me, and joe biden himself will he very— me, and joe biden himself will be very pleased this has been accomplished on his watch, he can say— accomplished on his watch, he can say it _ accomplished on his watch, he can say it was his team who put together— can say it was his team who put together the roots of the deal
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and were out there working with the other— and were out there working with the other parties to negotiate in the — the other parties to negotiate in the middle east, and it is really— in the middle east, and it is really interesting to note that as well— really interesting to note that as well as doing that, by thems— as well as doing that, by then's team has been very deliberately been involved in charmes middle east envoy in those — charmes middle east envoy in those talks, keeping them up—to—date with what has been going _ up—to—date with what has been going on— up—to—date with what has been going on so there can be a smooth _ going on so there can be a smooth transition, and a huge change — smooth transition, and a huge change from joe biden to donald trump _ change from joe biden to donald trump in — change from joe biden to donald trump in the presidency won't upset — trump in the presidency won't upset what is going on in the middle — upset what is going on in the middle east. it upset what is going on in the middle east.— middle east. it has been interesting, _ middle east. it has been interesting, we - middle east. it has been interesting, we have - middle east. it has been - interesting, we have watched countless time, antony blinken, the secretary of state, shuffle around the region desperately appealing for that situation and not to escalate further, and not to escalate further, and we saw the domino effect in lebanon than iran — iran then syria,, the backdrop for the region has fundamentally changed, hasn't it? it region has fundamentally changed, hasn't it?- region has fundamentally changed, hasn't it? it is an donald trump _ changed, hasn't it? it is an donald trump has - changed, hasn't it? it is an donald trump has clear- changed, hasn't it? it is an i donald trump has clear ideas
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about— donald trump has clear ideas about how we want to change it further — about how we want to change it further and make sure what has happened — further and make sure what has happened does not threaten american interests it, principally worried about iran who — principally worried about iran who has— principally worried about iran who has been weakened as a result— who has been weakened as a result of— who has been weakened as a result of everything that this happened, he wants to maintain that situation and said on social— that situation and said on social media that he would make sure that — social media that he would make sure that gaza does not become a source — sure that gaza does not become a source of _ sure that gaza does not become a source of terrorism, the home for terrorists, so he has clear ideas — for terrorists, so he has clear ideas about the governance of guys _ ideas about the governance of guys are — ideas about the governance of guys are going forward, and he wants— guys are going forward, and he wants to — guys are going forward, and he wants to expand the diplomatic efforts — wants to expand the diplomatic efforts he made the first time he was — efforts he made the first time he was president when they made the abraham accords, signed to normalise — the abraham accords, signed to normalise relations between israet— normalise relations between israel and the uae, normalise relations between israeland the uae, he normalise relations between israel and the uae, he would want — israel and the uae, he would want to— israel and the uae, he would want to push forward and achieve _ want to push forward and achieve a deal between israel and saudi arabia as well, the region— and saudi arabia as well, the region in— and saudi arabia as well, the region in which she takes a great — region in which she takes a great deal of interest, thinks it is important for america to be involved in and he clearly has — be involved in and he clearly has firmer notions of what he wants— has firmer notions of what he wants to _ has firmer notions of what he wants to try to impose once he becomes— wants to try to impose once he becomes president, emboldened by the _ becomes president, emboldened by the idea that it was his input _ by the idea that it was his input that makes this happen. as go — input that makes this happen. as go back tojeremy
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input that makes this happen. as go back to jeremy bowen input that makes this happen. as go back tojeremy bowen in jerusalem, jeremy, you made the point when we talked that there are so many open questions take me through some of them, we had a 566 days of this conflict, starting with those horrifying scenes in october seven, and then horrifying loss of life in then horrifying loss of life in the months subsequent. yes, i mean, the months subsequent. yes, i mean. starting _ the months subsequent. yes, i mean, starting from _ the months subsequent. yes, i mean, starting from the - the months subsequent. yes, i mean, starting from the basic. mean, starting from the basic principle here that first of all, remember, this is a truce, it's fresh i'll — fragile cease—fire, not the end of a conflict, the roots of which go much more than a century, and what has happened in the time since this war started has been the impact on the wider conflict has been that it is not as bitter and filled with hate as it has ever been, so this is not — this is the end of a phase, the question is
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which way it goes. now, the israeli right wing, who are in government in israel, believe that a palestinian state is part of the problem, the idea of giving palestinians rights as a nation and independence is something that they say it will put israel in great danger. much of the rest of the world including the outgoing us secretary of state and others have said that, actually, having a palestinian state is the only way to try to stabilise the region. i think the events of the last 15 months have shown definitively the way in which the conflict between israelis and palestinians can send out shock waves right across the region because there have been a series of geostrategic upheavals, hezbollah in lebanon intervene in the war and were eventually crushed by an israeli offensive, that was one of the factors which led to the
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collapse of the aside regime in syria, the questions about the weight syria, a central country in the region, will go. iran's so—called axis of resistance, their alliance of allies and proxies that was part of its, that they spent billions and many years on building, that lies in ruins, and iran itself has been seriously weakened, direct exchanges, and reads between the israelis and the iranians, so what you see is a region that is still in turmoil, it is going to be helped, a vital verse — first aid was going to be a cease—fire in gaza. let us hope that holds but it still leaves an enormous series of forces that have been unleashed, massive challenges for leaders and diplomats, and an area which is still relit the most
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turbulent in the world. jeremy bowen there _ turbulent in the world. jeremy bowen there in _ turbulent in the world. jeremy bowen there in jerusalem, - turbulent in the world. jeremy i bowen there in jerusalem, thank bowen there injerusalem, thank you for being with you — with us. let's continue with our diplomatic correspondent james landale here in the studio with me, and finally the diplomacy has worked to test taken many months. �* �* , ., , months. and it's not “ust diplomacy. itfl months. and it's not “ust diplomacy, it is i months. and it's notjust diplomacy, it is politics l months. and it's notjust i diplomacy, it is politics and it relatively underground that is driven and less of this, the sort of the would not of been possible if we think the hamas leader sinwar, was still alive, resisting this dealfrom leader sinwar, was still alive, resisting this deal from the won side. we know that the share factor of time has borne down on all sides in the war. we forget notjust down on all sides in the war. we forget not just the horrors of what type is happening in gaza but the fact that the israeli army is stretched and being pushed because it is fighting wars on so many fronts. the factors play into
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it, and thenjust fronts. the factors play into it, and then just at that moment, you have the time and, as we have said, so often of the trump administration the arrival of donald trump providing a meaningful deadline much so that the diplomacy can get actually have some kind of impact in no way that it simply has not for many months. as everyone has put out, this is just the start of a possible process, and the capacity for it to go wrong and the capacity for there to be a hitch and their capacity for one stage to be implemented and not another is still there. it be implemented and not another is still there.— is still there. it is on that oint is still there. it is on that point and _ is still there. it is on that point and we _ is still there. it is on that point and we had - point and we had the nervousness from hostage families because it is not until stage two and stage iii onto the more of the hostages and bodies are returned, and so it diplomacy we are talking about would have to continue more or less immediately, stage one, perhaps they have got that over the line, but all the rest of it, the hard work again has to resume pretty of it, the hard work again has to
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