there are very the majority. there are very big questions for the future. first of all, of course, it is a very important agreements i'm long overdue. why was it deleted — delayed from me? i think we was still learned this question i try to answer it, i'm not sure whether we know exactly what happened there, but i can see some minefields on the road. the first part of the agreement, i believe will be implemented quite easily. at the end of the second one, there is the issue of the permanent cease—fire. i am not sure that all of us understand exactly what does it mean. for netanyahu, he would have to

juggle my netanyahu, he would have to juggle my because of for the incoming president, it will be very important for him to say we are speaking here about the end of the war. for his very extreme right ministers, he would have to say, well, this is not the end of the war, you know my macros will — mind was breached the agreement in the future and then we will continue it that were as you wish. here i can see a problem, but there is also the third chapter that the president biden spoke about, and that is the rehabilitation and reconstruction of gaza. this is going to be a very big project, and talking to leaders in the gulf, i understand that they will not enter this area and

reconstructed if there is no agreement with the palestinians, speaking about the palestinian authority, the plo, which refers to the palestinian state.- plo, which refers to the palestinian state. can i ask ou palestinian state. can i ask you about _ palestinian state. can i ask you about what _ palestinian state. can i ask you about what will - palestinian state. can i ask you about what will be, - palestinian state. can i ask you about what will be, we j palestinian state. can i ask- you about what will be, we are about to talk to the relative of one of the hostages in fact, but there is going to be anger among the hostage families who have been campaigning for agreements to get them released that this was not done before when this was offered, asjoe biden said, back in may, there will be asking their prime minister white has it taken so many months for your government to agree to this?— to agree to this? yes, it may happen. _ to agree to this? yes, it may happen. but _ to agree to this? yes, it may happen. but i _ to agree to this? yes, it may happen, but i think - to agree to this? yes, it may happen, but i think that - to agree to this? yes, it may| happen, but i think that there was so much, there would be so much busy with the their

relatives, sons, brothers, mothers, grandsons, grandparents, that they would not have the energy to criticise netanyahu on that matter. i don't think that this is going to be a major internal issue. the major internal issue after the beginning of the agreement will be, as i said, the interpretation of what does it mean, a permanent cease—fire. because for the very extreme ministers in his government, it will be difficult to accept it that israel ended the war. netanyahu spoke about the end of the governments of the hamas, that hamas was not government and gaza, and here is one of the real issues on which i agree with him, and it has not

happened yet, and god knows when and if it would happen. thank you very much indeed, a former minister ofjustice for israel, gratefulfor former minister ofjustice for israel, grateful for your time and for being with us on bbc news. . ~ , ., and for being with us on bbc news. . ~ i. ., ., news. thank you for having me. as it was sitting _ news. thank you for having me. as it was sitting there, - news. thank you for having me. as it was sitting there, we - as it was sitting there, we do have here in the studio at one of a hostage, whose brother—in—law is among the hostages currently being held in gaza, thank you for being with us. and what is your reaction to this news that we finally, finally, at last, have this agreement, notjust for a cease—fire but for the hostages to be released? cease-fire but for the hostages to be released?— to be released? thank you for havin: to be released? thank you for having me. — to be released? thank you for having me. it _ to be released? thank you for having me, it is— to be released? thank you for having me, it is mixed, - to be released? thank you for having me, it is mixed, a - to be released? thank you for having me, it is mixed, a very mixed, because the agreements to a lots of conditions for this incident next phases, we are only focusing on phase one, but we know that only on the 16th day there will be discussions on the next phases. my

discussions on the next phases. my brother is 47 years old he is not within the categories included in phase one. phase one is women _ included in phase one. phase one is women and _ included in phase one. phase one is women and children i included in phase one. phase i one is women and children and so on an elderly postop and elderly yes. so on an elderly postop and elderly yea-— so on an elderly postop and elderl es. �* ,., ., elderly yes. and some miniature and kisses. _ elderly yes. and some miniature and kisses, we _ elderly yes. and some miniature and kisses, we assure _ elderly yes. and some miniature and kisses, we assure that - elderly yes. and some miniature and kisses, we assure that all i and kisses, we assure that all the hostages right now, under hundred and 467, our humanitarian case, they have been subject to torture, deprivation of food and water and sunlight, subject to sexual violence and violence generally. violence and violence generally-— violence and violence generally. violence and violence uenerall. , ., generally. just looking at -ictures generally. just looking at pictures of _ generally. just looking at pictures of your - pictures of your brother—in—law, do you have any information on his status was to mark? i information on his status was to mark? , information on his status was to mark?— to mark? i wish we could see this, but _ to mark? i wish we could see this, but less _ to mark? i wish we could see this, but less you _ to mark? i wish we could see this, but less you know - to mark? i wish we could see this, but less you know from | this, but less you know from me, mine or it released a psychological warfare video of him, he looked ok, but he was alive, we have no reason to believe he is not alive until we have been told otherwise. [30

we have been told otherwise. do ou we have been told otherwise. do you know how he was taken, where he was taken? he was taken from — where he was taken? he was taken from his home, - where he was taken? he was| taken from his home, in front of my sister, my two baby nieces, they were all held captive for hours in their kibbutz, and at some point that afternoon, mind you that a tech started in the morning, he was separated from them, taken hostage, driven away with other members of the kibbutz, and luckily, my sister and nieces were rescued later on that day, but we have not heard from him ever since. but we have not heard from him ever since-— ever since. you and other hostage _ ever since. you and other hostage families - ever since. you and other hostage families have - ever since. you and other. hostage families have been campaigning for it agreements, release of the hostages, are you angry with your is really government, mr netanyahu, the israeli prime minister, that not more has been done to get the hostages released? i am frustrated — the hostages released? i am frustrated with _ the hostages released? i am frustrated with many - the hostages released? i —n frustrated with many bodies, including my own effect — elected officials, my sister

met with the officials yesterday along with other members of hostage families, and stress to him that it is time to parameterize the hostages, we cannot leave anybody behind, and in a way, disagreement, we are even some behind to possibly be released later on. i am angry with how we conducted the investigations, i am we conducted the investigations, iam — i agree with the international community for allowing this to go on for so long, allowing nefarious actors for allowing hamas to go on, and the lack of solidarity we have someone distancing for the last few months, but i'm here to meet with the wider public and officials tomorrow, we will continue to advocate for every hostage until everyone is home, and we will hold our government accountable hopefully within national inquiry, will make sure that whatever feels before october seven and ever since will be examined and they will come to elections, and we will

see how we see with the results of the inquiry. see how we see with the results of the inquiry-— of the inquiry. does it frustrate _ of the inquiry. does it frustrate you - of the inquiry. does it frustrate you when i of the inquiry. does it | frustrate you when you of the inquiry. does it - frustrate you when you see - of the inquiry. does it _ frustrate you when you see - do frustrate you when you see — do here biden they're saying it was pretty the hostage release the heat propose we beckon me and to stick and all those months to get it actually agreed?— months to get it actually aareed? , ., ., agreed? yes, you laid it out perfectly. — agreed? yes, you laid it out perfectly. it _ agreed? yes, you laid it out perfectly. it is _ agreed? yes, you laid it out perfectly, it is frustrating. l agreed? yes, you laid it out perfectly, it is frustrating. i| perfectly, it is frustrating. i understand things change, first and foremost, hezbollah results of the game because of cease—fire agreement in lebanon, it really weakened hamas, ie lots of their leadership was taken out, their military power has been dismantled, reduced in many ways all across the gaza strip, and donald trump came into power in the us, and i think that chained dynamics, with the israeli government and with other parties to the negotiations, egypt and qatar, i think donald trump and his team, and i know it from discussions we have with his team, they applied in a lots of

pressure on all parties to get this done before his inauguration, and get as much hostages out as soon as possible because he wants to see and this war. we understand that the only way to bring all the hostages home is to end the war. it is a sacrifice, no agreement will be to the state of israel, because it is an agreement with a terrorist organisation, but at the end of the date we she so much, we don't have to focus on rebuilding our communities, rehabilitation of our hostages, and the reconstruction of gaza, because they will stay of our neighbours in the long term, because once we dismantle hamas from a civilian perspective, and other forces there, from a civilian perspective, and otherforces there, we'll be able to see a glimmer of for the entire region. bud be able to see a glimmer of for the entire region.— be able to see a glimmer of for the entire region. and what has it been like. _ the entire region. and what has it been like, the _ the entire region. and what has it been like, the ordeal - the entire region. and what has it been like, the ordeal of - the entire region. and what has it been like, the ordeal of the l it been like, the ordeal of the hostages has been completely unimaginable, but what has it been like for you as a family member and for all of the

family members? so much anxiety and stress and concern and worry. and stress and concern and wor . , ., ., , worry. yes,, our world is upside — worry. yes,, our world is upside down _ worry. yes,, our world is upside down since - worry. yes, , our world is i upside down since october seven. octobersix, iwas upside down since october seven. october six, i was in new york, i was headed to a party, in a nightclub, and then all the news emerge from israel, from my hometown and communities and friends, teachers, my family, and ever since my life is difference, ever since i have been prioritising, advocating for the hostages, that is what matters to us, advocating for our society to hear from the tragedy of october seven. we have not processed everything yet. my sister certainly did not because she has been fighting it like it lioness ever since october seven. i remember a phone call on october eight, i told remember a phone call on october eight, itold her what do you need to do? i was a conscript in the military, should i advocate from here in

new york, she said we are advocating for the hostages, and ever since i am doing it for her and all the hostages,. and were for her and al