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take a look at this. beautiful january winter day, guess where it is? and a national audit. what's happened 7 and squint at the latest data and you'll see the economy has expanded a smidgen. the boss of one of the uk's biggest businesses has advice on going for growth. good evening — this is newsnight, brought to you live every weeknight from broadcasting house with the best insights and interviews. on the newsnight panel tonight: the ceo of the co—operative
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group shirine khoury—haq, alex depledge, tech entrepreneur and ceo — another one — of resi, the uk's largest residential architectural practice and sir anthony seldon, political historian and educationalist. for days, the government said there was no need for a national inquiry into child grooming gangs. that position changed today. not quite a u—turn but definitely something different from what went before. in parliament, the home secretary yvette cooper announced five local inquiries which will have central government backing. and baroness louise casey — the go—to person for inquiries — will carry out what's described as an "audit" of what we know about the phenomenon. that'll include race and ethnicity. the tories called it inadequate, but the billionaire elon musk, who's posted a lot about this on his social nextwork x, gave it all a cautious welcome. anthony, you've written several
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books about the occupants of number ten so you are a keen student of the u—turn. does today count? you ten so you are a keen student of the u-turn. does today count?— u-turn. does today count? you have to be if you — u-turn. does today count? you have to be if you are _ u-turn. does today count? you have to be if you are writing _ u-turn. does today count? you have to be if you are writing about - u-turn. does today count? you have to be if you are writing about primel to be if you are writing about prime ministers, it's what they do. is it ministers, it's what they do. is it a u-turn today? _ ministers, it's what they do. is it a u-turn today? no, _ ministers, it's what they do. is it a u-turn today? no, yes, - ministers, it's what they do. is it a u-turn today? no, yes, it - ministers, it's what they do. is it a u-turn today? no, yes, it is i ministers, it's what they do. is it i a u-turn today? no, yes, it is hard to sa . a u-turn today? no, yes, it is hard to say- multiple — a u-turn today? no, yes, it is hard to say. multiple pressures, - a u-turn today? no, yes, it is hard to say. multiple pressures, ill- a u-turn today? no, yes, it is hard| to say. multiple pressures, ill mask was just one, to say. multiple pressures, ill mask wasjust one, nigel farage, and andy burnham, kemi badenoch, pressure from the labour party. is it the right thing to do? absolutely. is it right thing to do? absolutely. is it too late? it _ right thing to do? absolutely. is it too late? it isn't _ right thing to do? absolutely. is it too late? it isn't too _ right thing to do? absolutely. is it too late? it isn't too late. - right thing to do? absolutely. is it too late? it isn't too late. better. too late? it isn't too late. better too late? it isn't too late. better to have got ahead _ too late? it isn't too late. better to have got ahead of— too late? it isn't too late. better to have got ahead of it. - too late? it isn't too late. better to have got ahead of it. it - too late? it isn't too late. better to have got ahead of it. it isn't i to have got ahead of it. it isn't good... the prime minister has to have the political instinct when you can judge whether it's the right moment and he failed that test a bit. but if it works out now, people will quickly forget whether it was a u—turn. b, will quickly forget whether it was a u-turn. �* ., ., will quickly forget whether it was a u-turn. ., ., ,. ,, will quickly forget whether it was a u-turn. ., ., ,. , u-turn. a lot to discuss but first let's talk to _ u-turn. a lot to discuss but first let's talk to jake _ u-turn. a lot to discuss but first let's talk to jake richards, - u-turn. a lot to discuss but first let's talk to jake richards, the l let's talk to jake richards, the labour mp and member of the home affairs select committee in his
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constituency in yorkshire. last week you and the prime minister were saying the focus should be on implementing the recommendations of the big previous inquiry into child sexual abuse and it would be wrong to have a new set of inquiries now. what has changed?— to have a new set of inquiries now. what has changed? actually the focus ofthe what has changed? actually the focus of the home — what has changed? actually the focus of the home secretary's _ what has changed? actually the focus of the home secretary's statement i of the home secretary's statement today was exactly that, implementing the 20 recommendations from the last national review we had, which published in october of 2022 and set out 20 recommendations. the last government didn't make progress on them and this government is. a number of them have started being developed in the home office and today the home secretary announced a timetable for the rest of the recommendations to be implemented will be published before easter. in my view that is the most important thing the government can be doing, implementation of the recommendations into the national inquiry into this critical issue,
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which heard from hundreds of victims and considered 2 million bits of evidence. that's at the heart of what the home secretary said today. she also announced five local inquiries with central government backing and a national audit as well. , ., �* , backing and a national audit as well. , ., �*, ., well. yes, that's part of the government _ well. yes, that's part of the government strategy, - well. yes, that's part of the government strategy, to i well. yes, that's part of the i government strategy, to ensure that we can tackle these crimes from being committed in the future and absolutely critically, seekjustice where justice hasn't been successfully achieved thus far for the crimes from the past. if it so critical, why didn't you announced last week?- if it so critical, why didn't you announced last week? well, these thins announced last week? well, these things take — announced last week? well, these things take time. _ announced last week? well, these things take time. i _ announced last week? well, these things take time. i think _ announced last week? well, these things take time. i think it's i things take time. i think it's absolutely right, as the home secretary said today, she and the ministerjess phillips had met with alexis jay, they've met with the victims and survivors from telford for instance where the local inquiry was very successful, and what they are doing, what they announced is five local inquiries and really
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critically, learning from tom crowther casey who led the telford inquiry about what lessons can be learned from these inquiries to make sure they are as effective as possible. at the heart of this, and i must stress this, is this rapid and robust implementation of the 20 recommendations from the last national inquiry. that is absolutely critical to ensuring that these heinous crimes don't happen again. you mentioned five of these local investigations, why only five when it could be as many as 50 areas that had a problem with these grooming gangs? had a problem with these grooming hans? ~ , , had a problem with these grooming iians? . , , , ., , gangs? well, this is the start. this is what i find _ gangs? well, this is the start. this is what i find frustrating _ gangs? well, this is the start. this is what i find frustrating about i gangs? well, this is the start. this is what i find frustrating about the | is what i find frustrating about the debate. there will be one inquiry, a number of inquiries and that will be the end of the matter. we have to be constantly vigilant against these crimes taking place. this isn't a battle that will ever end. it's an ongoing process and that's why this government has announced further developments in their strategy to try and tackle it. i expect them to
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continue announcing further developments because we have a duty as the government to protect young people and vulnerable people from these monsters. that's an ongoing duty on the government takes incredibly seriously. fine duty on the government takes incredibly seriously. one other thin the incredibly seriously. one other thing the home _ incredibly seriously. one other thing the home secretary i incredibly seriously. one other- thing the home secretary announced is that she will ask all police forces to look into old cases, which people are now calling cold cases, to see if they should be reopened to see if there was a grooming and in action. do you think there are cases in your patch of rother valley that will be reopened as a result? i think they will be and i hope that they will be. think they will be and i hope that they will be— they will be. things that were missed by _ they will be. things that were missed by the _ they will be. things that were missed by the police - they will be. things that were missed by the police the i they will be. things that were missed by the police the first | they will be. things that were i missed by the police the first time round? ~ ., ., ~ . , round? well, look, we need victims to come forward _ round? well, look, we need victims to come forward and _ round? well, look, we need victims to come forward and have _ round? well, look, we need victims to come forward and have their- round? well, look, we need victims. to come forward and have their cases looked at and they will be extra resources for the police to look at those cases where no further action was taken in a number of cases in the past and that's a good thing. some people have said to me, we need a national inquiry and i ask what they want from that and they want to
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see justice. they want from that and they want to seejustice. they they want from that and they want to see justice. they want to see the monsters who committed some of the worst crimes we can imagine being brought tojustice. a national inquiry won't necessarily do that. it requires police action. they need to be brought tojustice, a fair trial taken place and if found guilty, the right punishment needs to be delivered. that is a really important part of the government announcement today, extra funding and powers for the police to ensure that no stone is unturned and getting justice for the victims. going back to what you said, you reckon that in your area of the country there maybe grooming gangs that were not investigated by the police come not prosecuted, and didn't go to court. that sounds to me like you might not have confidence in your local police force, then, if they are missing this potentially for years. i don't think it's a _ this potentially for years. i don't think it's a news _ this potentially for years. i don't think it's a news story _ this potentially for years. i don't think it's a news story to - this potentially for years. i don't| think it's a news story to suggest that there are victims of rape and child abuse that got away with it. i'm afraid that is the reality
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because we have a broken justice system, a stretched police system and that has to change and that's what this government is trying to tackle, after years, frankly of this issue not being taken seriously enough. issue not being taken seriously enouih. ., . ., , ., enough. how much power does elon musk now has _ enough. how much power does elon musk now has on _ enough. how much power does elon musk now has on the _ enough. how much power does elon musk now has on the political i musk now has on the political system? because this happened because he was tweeting about it constantly, didn't it? i because he was tweeting about it constantly, didn't it?— constantly, didn't it? i don't acce it constantly, didn't it? i don't accept that. _ constantly, didn't it? i don't accept that. put _ constantly, didn't it? i don't accept that. put politics i constantly, didn't it? i don't. accept that. put politics aside, labour, tory, lib dems, reform. justin phillips is a minister who spent her professional life working for victims of child abuse and female victims of domestic violence —— jess female victims of domestic violence ——jess phillips is female victims of domestic violence —— jess phillips is a female victims of domestic violence ——jess phillips is a minister. it is a personal mission for her to help people who suffered in this way and i don't think thatjess phillips needs elon musk to tell her how serious this is. notjust this, these calls for a national inquiry. keir starmer, yvette cooper and jess phillips were calling for a national inquiry a long time before dj
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inquiry a long time before dj inquiry was convened by the tories —— before the jay inquiry was convened. -- before the jay inquiry was convened-— nick, what are you hearing about this in westminster as the dust settles? �* , , . ., ,, ., , settles? it's interesting, jake was talkin i settles? it's interesting, jake was talking about _ settles? it's interesting, jake was talking about elon _ settles? it's interesting, jake was talking about elon musk - settles? it's interesting, jake was talking about elon musk and i settles? it's interesting, jake was talking about elon musk and thisl talking about elon musk and this afternoon, in government circles they've _ afternoon, in government circles they've been looking carefully about what elon _ they've been looking carefully about what elon musk has been posting on his x feed _ what elon musk has been posting on his x feed and the reason for that, as antbony— his x feed and the reason for that, as anthony said, this kicked off when _ as anthony said, this kicked off when he — as anthony said, this kicked off when he called for there to be that national— when he called for there to be that national inquiry. we reported last week_ national inquiry. we reported last week that — national inquiry. we reported last week that in senior levels of the government, they felt some of his language — government, they felt some of his language was incendiary. today he retweeted — language was incendiary. today he retweeted the home office announcement and elon musk wrote that it _ announcement and elon musk wrote that it was _ announcement and elon musk wrote that it was a step in the right direction _ that it was a step in the right direction. but the results will speak— direction. but the results will speak for— direction. but the results will speak for themselves. that means the conservatives have a much harder view _ conservatives have a much harder view on _ conservatives have a much harder view on this— conservatives have a much harder view on this than elon musk because they think— view on this than elon musk because they think there should be a national— they think there should be a
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national inquiry. a member of the shadow— national inquiry. a member of the shadow cabinet said it will happen so the _ shadow cabinet said it will happen so the government should just get on with it _ so the government should just get on with it the _ so the government should just get on with it. the view in government, you talked _ with it. the view in government, you talked about — with it. the view in government, you talked about louise casey, we know her, talked about louise casey, we know her. she _ talked about louise casey, we know her, she knows her own mind, she knows _ her, she knows her own mind, she knows what — her, she knows her own mind, she knows what she thinks but the view in government, the rapid audit you talked _ in government, the rapid audit you talked about, will not result in louise — talked about, will not result in louise casey calling for a national inquiry _ louise casey calling for a national inquiry. the — louise casey calling for a national inquiry. the government is talking i
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