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the palestinian agency says that 116 palestinians have been killed since the deal was announced. hello, i'm ros atkins. welcome to a bbc news special programme on the gaza ceasefire deal which the israeli cabinet has approved this evening. it's the first phase of a a deal which, if implemented in full, will end the 15 month war in gaza. their meeting lasted more than six hours, with some ministers who threatened to resign arguing the agreement rewards hamas. the first hostages are due to be released as early as sunday. in return, israel says it will release dozens of palestinian prisoners. they include some detainees as young as 16. hamas will return 33 israeli hostages over six weeks. these pictures are from egypt where trucks are waiting to bring aid into gaza. under the deal israel will allow 600 trucks into gaza every day — that's 12 times
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more than at the moment. our international editorjeremy bowen has this report this is the boy who lived. asad halifa, three years old. he is being looked after by neighbours in gaza city. crying. and that is his cry for help from the rubble the night before last. he was strong enough to wave. the men had been about to abandon their search. and he was strong enough to try to clear concrete dust from his mouth. the israelis killed asad's parents, his baby sister, aunt and uncle when they destroyed the building a few hours after the ceasefire was announced. the background buzz is from an israeli drone. miraculously, asad only had cuts and bruises. he has been taken in by his mother's best friend.
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translation: this little boy lost his mother and father. because a pilot flying a plane in the sky took a decision, and took away all the care he had. their neighbourhood, rimal, used to be the richest part of gaza city. 50 miles away injerusalem, the israeli cabinet ratified the ceasefire agreement. ultranationalists voted against. they want prime minister netanyahu to resume the war. the faces of the 1,200 killed in the october attacks are everywhere in israel. this was outside the prime minister's office, also a reminder that israelis are deeply divided over the best way to get the hostages back. netanyahu's critics say he's broken his promise to rescue the hostages by destroying hamas completely. instead, he's made a deal with hamas. translation: our message i is very clear, that a ceasefire
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deal is a surrender to hamas. we will only support a deal if all hostages are released. that would send the message to the enemy that we are the rulers. benjamin netanyahu's coalition benjamin netanyahu's coalition crisis is going to be of little crisis is going to be of little importance to donald trump, importance to donald trump, who is always going to put who is always going to put the interests of his the interests of his own presidency first, own presidency first, and he wants to re—enter and he wants to re—enter the white house being able the white house being able to claim, with some to claim, with some justification, that he was able justification, that he was able to deliver a ceasefire that to deliver a ceasefire that joe biden could not. joe biden could not. now, longer term, the structure now, longer term, the structure of the ceasefire could be of the ceasefire could be a problem because it's over a problem because it's over a period of weeks and months for months. a period of weeks and months and it's in phases, and that and it's in phases, and that gives plenty of time for events gives plenty of time for events to happen that could be to happen that could be exploited by those who want exploited by those who want the ceasefire to fail. the ceasefire to fail. outside the prime minister's official residence, supporters outside the prime minister's official residence, supporters of the hostages suspect of the hostages suspect netanyahu could be one of them. netanyahu could be one of them. they say he prolonged the agony they say he prolonged the agony
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of hostages and all israelis of hostages and all israelis by delaying a ceasefire by delaying a ceasefire for months. we lost too many people fighting.
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happy moments in the past, and the gaps left by the missing and the dead. for the families, the wait is an agony. for israelis and palestinians, the clock is ticking towards the ceasefire far too slowly. jeremy bowen, bbc news, jerusalem. next we can hear from the types of israel us bureau chief who joins us live. thank you very much for your time. what is your initial analysis of the fact that this ceasefire deal has been 0kked by the israeli —— okayed by the israeli cabinet? in -- okayed by the israeli cabinet?— -- okayed by the israeli cabinet? , ~ cabinet? in some ways, i think what the easy _ cabinet? in some ways, i think what the easy part _ cabinet? in some ways, i think what the easy part is _ cabinet? in some ways, i think what the easy part is what - cabinet? in some ways, i think what the easy part is what we | what the easy part is what we just finished where we had the cabinet vote that took place a few hours ago. we had 2a of the ministers voting in favour and eight voting against, meaning that there was a very comfortable majority for netanyahu to pass this deal. but really, what the ministers were voting on was on the first
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stage this is a 3—stage deal. and the first stage of the deal is, i think, and the first stage of the deal is, ithink, what and the first stage of the deal is, i think, what has won a clear majority in the israeli public. there was a poll that came out today that showed about roughly 64% to 70% of israeli voters support the deal at its first stage. 0nce israeli voters support the deal at its first stage. once you get from the first stage to the second stage after the six—week period where you have 33 hostages released, that's where things are going to be a lot trickierfor netanyahu things are going to be a lot trickier for netanyahu and there's a lot of pressure from his far—right coalition partner, but also from likud voters who are among those who voted against this today were some likud ministers. and that is going to be a real challenge for him moving forward as he tries to move, i think, to the next stage of the deal. jacob, 'ust next stage of the deal. jacob, just explain — next stage of the deal. jacob, just explain to _ next stage of the deal. jacob, just explain to us _ next stage of the deal. jacob, just explain to us why - next stage of the deal. jacob, just explain to us why that - just explain to us why that second phase is more challenging for him, politically?- challenging for him, oliticall ? ., politically? so, netanyahu has ledaed politically? so, netanyahu has pledged throughout _ politically? so, netanyahu has pledged throughout this - politically? so, netanyahu has pledged throughout this war . politically? so, netanyahu has| pledged throughout this war to achieve a concept of total victory. and he really totally explained what it is. sometimes he says it is the dismanting of
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hamas's governing and mill capability, which is something that he has not yet achieved and honestly will never achieve the way that he handled the war because he never sought to put forward a viable alternative to hamas. so there's the period of perpetual violence in gaza. and because he has the concept of total victory, there's an expectation from those who want that concept of continuing the war after this first phase, which is not something that basically... the deal doesn't really allow. there's a first phase and then there's negotiations that take place during that first phase to get to the second phase. and if those negotiations continue, there is not going to be a continuation of the war after several weeks. so netanyahu going to hope, i think his goal would be, probably, for hamas to break the ceasefire, to give israel an excuse to resume fighting. but if that doesn't happen, he's going to need a guarantee from trump, the new incoming us president, to maybe give him a chance to resume fighting. if that doesn't happen and given the fact that
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trump has campaigned on the concept of this war ending, he's really going to be in a position where he'll likely lose his government. you said that ou lose his government. you said that you don't _ lose his government. you said that you don't feel _ lose his government. you said that you don't feel that - lose his government. you said that you don't feel that mr - that you don't feel that mr netanyahu has sufficiently neta nyahu has sufficiently explored netanyahu has sufficiently explored what political am terntives there are to hamas in gaza. today, we've seen the leader of the palestinian authority, mahmoud abbas, saying that the pa would be interested in playing a role in gaza. is there any possibility that benyamin netanyahu might support that idea? might even play some role in trying to encourage it? to play some role in trying to encourage it?— play some role in trying to encourage it? play some role in trying to encouraue it? ., . , encourage it? to date, there is absolutely _ encourage it? to date, there is absolutely zero _ encourage it? to date, there is absolutely zero chance - encourage it? to date, there is absolutely zero chance of - encourage it? to date, there is absolutely zero chance of that l absolutely zero chance of that happening. netanyahu has rejected — he's likened mahmoud abbas and the palestinian authority to hamas, even one supports a two—state solution with the pa and the other wants to simply annihilate israel. and part of that has to do the with his own politics again, trump is the wild card here. he was able to do something in the past few weeks that biden was not able to do. given that this is the exact same deal that we had on the table since may and
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biden wasn't able to get netanyahu over the finish line and push that extra lever of pressure that we hadn't been seeing. that was trump. and maybe if he's willing to do the same thing regarding allowing the palestinian authority to play a role ensuring that there's a second phase of the deal, then yes, i think that there is a chance. but if not, netanyahu has shown that he is at least about 50% of israelis believe that he has played a role and the reason that this war has gone so long because he's taken or put his political future ahead of maybe the future ahead of maybe the future of the hostages at this point. and if that's going to basically be the calculus moving forward unless trump has anything to say about it. find anything to say about it. and one final _ anything to say about it. and one final question, _ anything to say about it. and one final question, you've been explaining that some within benyamin netanyahu's cabinet are not happy with this ceasefire deal. is there any prospect that his coalition government could be in danger because of the pressures coming from within it?— from within it? absolutely, there's definitely _ from within it? absolutely, there's definitely a - from within it? absolutely, there's definitely a chance. from within it? absolutely, l there's definitely a chance. i think that it will depend on how this phase goes. there's 33
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hostages who are slated to be released in this deal. but we don't know how many of them are living and how many of them are going to be coming back in body bagsment and i think as long as maybe that number is closer to 33, and that is why i think a lot of those in the security establishment, if they have an interest in making sure that they feel that hamas has an interest in making sure that the deal goes well, then i think that there will be more support amongst coalition voters for maybe continuing to a second phase and maybe netanyahu will do something that he hadn't been willing to do until now. but if the numbers according to some polls that have come out basically show that roughly a plurality of his coalition wants to return to the war after the first phase is over, i think that's going to really dictate if those numbers stay as high as they are now, at roughly 46%. then i think we're more likely to resume fighting after the first phase.— likely to resume fighting after the first phase. thank you very much indeed _ the first phase. thank you very much indeed for _ the first phase. thank you very much indeed forjoining - the first phase. thank you very much indeed forjoining us. - much indeed forjoining us. thank you for having me.
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hamas attacked israel on october seven. the attack 0ctober seven. the attack triggered a massive israeli offensive in gaza, during which more than 46,800 palestinians have been killed, according to the hamas—run health ministry. israeli air strikes have continued in gaza this week with the civil defence agency there saying is 116 palestinians have been killed since wednesday. the conflict has also caused significant damage to infrastructure in gaza. these picture, verified by the bbc, show what a neighbourhood injabalia looked like last week, compared to before the conflict. rebuilding infrastructure, from homes to public facilities, will be a key challenge in the coming years. in may, the un estimated the cost could be $40 billion. nura erika is a palestinian—american human rights activist, attorney and professor of criminal justice and shejoined me earlier.
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you will, of course, have seen the news that the israeli cabinet has okayed the first part of the deal. what is your response? my part of the deal. what is your response?— part of the deal. what is your response? my first is the first response _ response? my first is the first response of— response? my first is the first response of most _ response? my first is the first| response of most palestinians which is incredible, ref leaf, rage, hope, that it stays intact. palestinians have endured too much for the past 468 days in a besieged territory where more than half of the population is children, and been subject to some now 85,000 tonnes of bombs. and so, there's relief, rage and anxiety of whether it is going to hold, and then there's concern that the ceasefire, evenif concern that the ceasefire, even if the sky stops falling, is not enough, because the conditions have already been set in motion that would limit the possibility there. you set in motion that would limit the possibility there.- the possibility there. you use the possibility there. you use the word �*hope". _ the possibility there. you use the word �*hope". in - the possibility there. you use the word �*hope". in order- the possibility there. you use the word �*hope". in order tol the word "hope". in order to build on that hope, which you say that you and other palestinians are feeling on this news. what needs to happen? what do you want from israel, from america, from the
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international community, to build on the hope that comes from the cessation of hostilities? i from the cessation of hostilities?— from the cessation of hostilities? ., ~' hostilities? i would like the international _ hostilities? i would like the international community i hostilities? i would like the international community to | international community to mobilise to meet its obligations. i would like them to live up to the spirit that they established in the aftermath of second world war. the international legal institution that is were established to prevent the very atrocities that we're witnessing in this moment. israel has told t
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