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let's return to our main story. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu has said he reserves the right to resume war with hamas "if necessary". in a statement to the israeli people, hours before the gaza ceasefire is due to come into effect, he vowed to bring back all the hostages held by hamas. but he said both outgoing us presidentjoe biden and his successor donald trump have given full backing to israel's right to return to combat, should the second stage of the ceasefire prove pointless. mr netanyahu had earlier suggested that israel was still awaiting the names — from hamas — of israeli hostages to be freed. in a statement, he said "we will not move forward with the agreement until we receive the list of hostages who will be released, as agreed. but in his televised address, mr netanyahu gave no indication that the first phase of the deal would not come
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into effect, as scheduled, tomorrow morning at 8.30 local time. translation: when the people of israel stand together - united, there is nothing that can break us. i am proud to be the prime minister and to lead this people in times like this. the cabinet and the government have approved the outline for that agreement of the cease fire, and we will wait patiently until it is completed. this is a sacred task, in my entire life, from the time i was a combatant in the idf and all my years as a prime minister. i have been waiting for, for this moment. together with so many people around the world, my wife and i are praying, wishing and hoping for all our
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hostages to come home. i keep thinking about them the entire time. my wife sara is totally exerting all her energy and her heart to all the hostages, all day here and abroad. she is so anxious about it, and i know this is shared by all the families of israel, and i promise you that we will keep to all the objectives of the war, and we will bring them all home. up to today, 157 of those hostages have come home. and now in that agreement, we're going to bring 33 of those brothers and sisters — most of them are still alive. and this is a result of the heroism of our soldiers in the war, and because of our steadfast stand. and it was very difficult against all the pressures
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from within and from without. it is also a result of the collaboration and cooperation of the outgoing presidentjoe biden�*s administration and the incoming president trump administration. on wednesday night they spoke to me and congratulated me, and stressed that in the first phase of that agreement is a temporary cease—fire. and before the next phases, we are keeping very significant assets in our hands in order to bring them all home. in order to keep to all the goals and objectives of the war. both president biden and president trump have fully backed that objective of the war, if they feel that they
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do not think that we are achieving that in the second phase, and of course they will now truly appreciate what they are doing. and president trump will ensure that we will have all the weapons and ammunition that we need, and the arms, but if we do not achieve it, then we will achieve it with tremendous force. later on. the first principle is that we must maintain the ability to go back and fight if needed. but we are reserving the right to go back to the war with the backing of the united states, and there is a reason for the fact that all the higher echelons of power and the states have repeated that it was hamas who actually tore, basically torpedoed the
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deal before that. we said there has to be a very significant rise in the number, an increase in the number of hostages that will come back in the first phase, and that effort, yes, has borne fruit. we have managed to even double those live hostages that will come back at first phase, and the additional principle is that we would preserve the philadelphia access and there would be an access and there would be an access zone. so actually, we will not decrease the number of our troops there in the country, we will increase it slightly because we have to have full control over the security buffer zone and philadelphi access. there will
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be in complete enclosure around it, we will not enable them to smuggle arms in or hostages away somewhere else. they will be deported not tojudea and samaria, those we are releasing, but to other areas, to other places, and our forces injudea and samaria, we will back them and add forces there so that we will be guarding the state of israel. those tremendous blows that our heroic soldiers actually caused on those enemies, and we were able to hit out at our army on seven fronts, we eradicated nasrallah, yahya sinwar, and destroyed most of the arms of the syrian army and we are talking about the yemenite �*s as well, the houthis in yemen,
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for example, and the entire uranian access, and as i promised you, we change the face of the middle east and as a result of all that come hamas has remained blown, completely hit at and alone on that front. so therefore we were able now to reach an agreement. hamas agreed now to things that they did not agree to in the past. the citizens of israel, this war is making tremendous demands of us. but we have to. this is an existential fight. we have to take into account all our security and our defence requirements. i cannot actually enumerate them here at the moment, the 7th of october it was a horrific blow and
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terrible pain, but with shared forces we push them back and we achieved amazing achievements. so the entire world were extremely impressed by these accomplishments. the state of israel ic with tremendous elevation of spirit, the way with your emotional strength, you are standing steadfast. and i want to thank you for the support that are giving us to continue leading the state of israel and such fateful times. israel and such fateful times. i have seen people in their best of contact, all of them, if we are talking about the 655, the most to sound, the general gss, the most to sound, the general security forces, the idf, the volunteers, are people truly, the creme de la creme at their best. whether it is in
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battle or whether they may stand —— whether they stand. with tremendous recognition we would like to remember all those who lost their lives. the bereaved families. we would like to embrace them and embrace our wounded soldiers, the families of the hostages. those residents of israel in the north and south who are displaced, it is upon us, it is incumbent upon us to bring them home. this campaign has not ended as yet. it is a very long, winding journey still ahead of us. but the time has come to unite, to honour and respect everyone. this is what the generation of victory is demanding for us. because it is the spirit beating within us
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moon that is pushing us forward. we are an ancient people and we will not give up. we will not surrender. we will have a decisive victory over our enemies and we will promise our enemies and we will promise ourfuture because our enemies and we will promise our future because there is, yes, hope. we've had in the last few minutes a statement from prime minister netanyahu on x or what used to be twitter, reiterating some of that sentiment, but interestingly no longer mentioning the issue that was raised earlier of the absence of a list of names of hostages, so it seems that the mood music is that this is actually going to go ahead, the cease—fire deal. he did say the campaign is still not over and he also urged unity for its release, so that statement there on x from prime minister netanyahu. confirming that it seems that the doubts over whether the cease—fire deal would go ahead
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appear to be, have been put aside and we can expect this to happen at 6:30pm gmt, or 8:30am local time. our corresponent in tel aviv mark lowen gave us his assessment of mr netanyahu's statement. so plenty of topics dealt with there by benjamin netanyahu. but one thing stood out for me, which is this clear statement that, in his words, this was this is a temporary ceasefire and that israel reserves the right to go back, to send its forces back into gaza and resume the war in the weeks ahead. if the if the two sides do not agree to, to continue and progress to the second phase of the ceasefire agreement. in other words, this is he
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is not committing at this stage to it being a long term permanent ceasefire. now, i have to say, lauren, that benjamin netanyahu is a man who often says certain things to certain audiences. this is what he is saying to the israeli public. it is no doubt what he has said to his rebellious ministers. there were two ministers in his cabinet from the far right who fiercely objected to the ceasefire deal, and six others who voted against it in the cabinet meeting. we do not, of course, know what assurances he has given to the americans and to the qataris and egyptians behind closed doors over his intentions to make this a permanent ceasefire. but certainly the public narrative coming out of benjamin netanyahu tonight is that this is a ceasefire for the moment that has been agreed in order to get the israeli hostages back, but that israel retains the right to resume the war in gaza if the objectives are not met in the coming weeks, and if israel and hamas are not able to move forward to the second stage of the ceasefire that is due to begin in six weeks�* time.
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let's take a moment to take a look at how the situation reflects on hamas. khaled elindgy, adjunct professor at georgetown university described the state of its forces. in operational terms, hamas has been greatly weakened. its various, you know, battalions and brigades have been, destroyed in part or in whole, you know, many hundreds, probably thousands of fighters have been killed. but the reality is that hamas continues to exist as, certainly as a political force, but even as a military force. and, we've now reached a point where even secretary blinken has conceded that hamas has been able to recruit at a rate... that has basically been able to recruit, new fighters at, to compensate for the ones that it has lost. and, and so i think this really speaks to the, to the, to this notion that the whole idea of total victory and complete destruction of hamas was never achievable.
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it's something that most analysts pointed out 15 months ago, and it remains true today. and it is, frankly, a pretext to continue what has become sort of an endless war. i mean, what do you make of the fact that in this statement, netanyahu talked about the fact that president trump and president elect trump and mr biden have backed israel's right to resume fighting if the second stage doesn't work? tell us about the future. i mean, one of the things that isn't really addressed is what the political future of gaza will be once these first stages of the cease fire are achieved. yeah. i mean, i think that's also not surprising. of course, we don't know exactly what president biden or president elect trump, committed to benjamin netanyahu. but i think it's a safe bet. and the only thing that really matters is, is donald trump, is going to be president
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in a couple of days anyway. and i think it's pretty clear that the trump administration will, will give netanyahu very wide latitude. i don't think they're going to be sticklers for details. if israel violates the agreement, you know, in the same way that the biden administration, even though netanyahu was the obstacle, they still insisted on blaming any hold—up in reaching a cease fire on hamas. i would expect very much the same, treatment i would expect very much the same treatment from donald trump. and there's no question netanyahu will try to drag this war out once trump is in office. donald trump has begun hisjourney from his home in florida to his old home in washington — ahead of his inauguration as the next president of the united states. mr trump — along with his wife and youngest son — are flying to the nation's capital. he will hold a victory rally in washington on sunday — before taking the oath
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of office on monday. but not everyone is happy to see mr trump's return to the white house. a protest has been taking place in washington — called the people's march — with demonstraters moving through the city — opposed to his policies. from washington — john sudworth reports. these protesters were on the streets of the capital, venting their fury at the prospect. i'm so upset with where we are, it makes me so angry to see that every single day, and all the people who cannot emphasise their freedoms, we have to do something. i was a lifelong republican until2016, and i am not that liberal, but we have to do something to save democracy, because he is going
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to absolutely kill it. mr trump thrives on discord, an official inaugural photo shows him blaring out defiantly and having survived the two recent assassination attempts, the city is on high alert. security is always tight for these occasions, with 25,000 police officers and national guard soldiers being deployed, but officials are talking about a higher threat environment. they can do nothing about the cold weather, with an arctic chill predicted, hasty preparations are being made to bring the ceremony indoors. it will be held inside the capitol building, depriving many thousands of the chance to witness the occasion. it doesn't matter how cold it is, i came here to support this inauguration and i came here to support my god. few people can doubt that america is a deeply divided country on the brink of radical change. that was, after all, what donald trump promised and what his
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supporters are hoping for, and they feel that this time around he is far more prepared to push his agenda through. but for his opponents, that is precisely what they fear. in two days�* time, what they once saw as unthinkable will become a reality. john sudworth, bbc news, washington. and we will have full live coverage of donald trump's inauguration here on bbc news, with a special programme from washington, starting at 12 gmt on monday. to nigeria, where 70 people are reported to have been killed after a fuel truck exploded. the fuel tanker was involved in an accident in the suleja area to the west of abuja. reports suggest it then burst into flames, as residents began scooping up spilt fuel. a pregnant woman is reported to be among the dead. a number of people, including rescuers, are said to have been injured in the blast. the bbc�*s nkechi ogbonna is in lagos. the fuel tanker that
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was involved in an accident earlier today, at dico area, a suburb of north central niger state in nigeria. was involved in an accident and then it spilled all of its contents. at this very busy major expressway. and of course, residents in the community rushed to the fuel tanker to begin to scoop its contents. and a few minutes after that, there was an explosion. we have seen very gory images from social media, including bodies that have been burnt beyond recognition. authorities say about 25 people were injured and were taken to nearby hospitals, but the number of casualties stands at about 77 as of now. donald trump says he'll "most likely" give tiktok a 90—day reprieve from a potential ban in the us after he takes
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office on monday. a ban on the app — which is used by millions globally — is due to take effect on sunday after a ruling by the us supreme court. with me is our reporter stephen murphy. tell us about trump's plans with us and what that might mean. . , with us and what that might mean. ., , .,, ,, mean. donald trump as you mentioned _ mean. donald trump as you mentioned has _ mean. donald trump as you mentioned has said - mean. donald trump as you mentioned has said it's - mean. donald trump as you | mentioned has said it's likely they will give this 90 day reprieve to tiktok, a stay of execution for the app in america. the passed by congress last april, they were so concerned about the national security risks of tiktok. that law was passed and it was, tiktok had challenged it but the supreme court on friday upheld the law and that basically said the deadline is the 19th of january which is only a few hours away now, before bite dance, tiktok�*s chinese parent company, to sell off the american arm of tiktok or it would be banned in the us
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market. donald trump in this interview has said that he could give that 90 day extension, that would be a one—off thing under the law he can do that, but he has to prove that there is a concrete legal agreement in place suggesting they were a bit further down the road and there has been some progress on tiktok being sold off so it can continue to operate in the us market. �* , ., market. and untilthere is a reprieve. — market. and untilthere is a reprieve, what _ market. and untilthere is a reprieve, what were - market. and untilthere is a reprieve, what were the - market. and until there is a i reprieve, what were the band look like? i reprieve, what were the band look like?— look like? i think that's the big question _ look like? i think that's the big question for _ look like? i think that's the big question for a - look like? i think that's the big question for a lot - look like? i think that's the big question for a lot of- look like? i think that's the i big question for a lot of users of tiktok, and tiktok has said it will go dark on sunday, suggesting that if you open the 3pp suggesting that if you open the app in america you will be able to see any content or videos, but it won't be illegal to have the app on your phone, important to make that point. but it will disappear from the app but it will disappear from the app store so if you try to go on to the google play store or apple store in america, you're not going to see tiktok there as an option to download. an existing user won't get those background updates to fix bugs in the outcome of will get new
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features rolled out and they will slowly find that there might be glitches in the app. so it will be less user—friendly. we have seen a lot of tiktok videos today user—friendly. we have seen a lot of tiktok videos
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