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hello, i'm christian fraser. donald trump has arrived in washington ahead of his inauguration on monday. he is hosting tonight a fundraiser in virginia. there is a dinner and firework display for the 500 invited guests. it is one of several events scheduled before he takes the oath on monday, but it will all look very different to how it was planned. the temperatures here are due to plummet in the next 2a hours. there is frantic work underway to move the inauguration indoors, with the set now being built in the capitol rotunda. we are told that the president—elect will speak to the media about those plans very shortly. but not everyone is here in support. there were thousands of anti—trump demonstrators marching through washington today protesting against the policies of his incoming administration. organisers had expected 50,000 people. the turnout was closer to 5,000. the people's march —
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it was previously known as the women's march — was much smaller than it was in 2017 when trump first came to power. but according to those who attended, it is now a much more diverse group. it's a nice reminder that even though we didn't have the numbers in november, that we're not alone and it's — we shouldn't give up and just kind of roll on our backs. you know, in two years we can make some more change. i think that we should come out here and voice our concerns. like, why do you want people to go back home — because you think they do not belong here? america was built upon immigrants. am i wrong? no, but it'sjust like — we should have a say in that. because they can't just deport
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people just because they feel like they don't belong here. the view there of some of those marching today. 0ur north america correspondent john sudworth was watching. well, they're calling this the people's protest, a broad coalition of groups here on the streets of washington to protest against what they see as donald trump's threats to civil rights, to social justice, to women's rights, to the protection of minorities and immigrants. america is, few people can doubt now, a deeply divided country on the brink of radical change. that is what donald trump promised before his election, it's why his supporters voted for him, and they will be hoping that this time around he is far more prepared to push his agenda through. for his opponents here on the streets, of course, that is precisely what they fear. the decision to bring the inauguration indoors because of the arctic weather because of the arctic weather forecast is posing some forecast is posing some challenges, and when you think challenges, and when you think back to the scenes of violence back to the scenes of violence that greeted the defeat that greeted the defeat in 2020, so far these protests in 2020, so far these protests have been very, very peaceful. have been very, very peaceful.
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what a difference what a difference four years makes. four years makes. let me show you some live let me show you some live pictures of the white house, pictures of the white house, which of course will be the which of course will be the focus over the next couple of focus over the next couple of days. i have some pictures i days. i have some pictures i can show you of donald trump can show you of donald trump arriving in the last hour or so arriving in the last hour or so at dulles international at dulles international airport. there he is aboard a airport. there he is aboard a government plan which they sent government plan which they sent to collect him from palm beach to collect him just international. you mightjust international. you might just see international. you mightjust international. you might just see international. you mightjust see melania behind him there, see melania behind him also travelling with his international. you mightjust youngest son, barron, who he see melania behinc his'| also travelling with his youngest son, barron, who he credited with putting him in touch with a younger class of voters through tiktok, which is very much part of the debate in washington, what happens to tiktok in the coming days. joining me live is molly ball, senior political correspondent at the wall streetjournal. thank you very much for being with us. it's worth mentioning,
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also travelling with his youngest son, invisible. 1o he also travelling with his youngest son, invisible. and: become sort of invisible. and so trump is coming in here as a sort of would—be strongman ready to take the reins, in his view and those of his supporters, and try to turn around both washington and the country. around both washington and the count . , . , around both washington and the count . , around both washington and the count. , , country. yes, as you say, his ollin: country. yes, as you say, his polling figures _ country. yes, as you say, his polling figures much - country. yes, as you say, his| polling figures much healthier than when he left office, up around 46% now. but there's some reporting in the new york times tonight that actually support for trump cosmic policies exceeds the support for the president elect. so they are sympathetic for his plans to deport migrants and to reduce america's presence overseas. is it the policies they voted for, or is it the man? i they voted for, or is it the man? ~ , ., , man? i think it is a little bit of both, — man? i think it is a little bit of both, but— man? i think it is a little bit of both, but trump - man? i think it is a little bit of both, but trump is - man? i think it is a little bit of both, but trump is a - of both, but trump is a divisive figure, and voters have always been sceptical of his character, sceptical of his behaviour. and, you know, i think a lot is going to depend on the way he goes about implementing those policies as well. in our recent wall street
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journal poll that came out this week, we found that voters were interested in what we term a sort of maga light, that the most extreme versions of his promises, and he did make some extreme promises, was viewed with some trepidation by the electorate. they would like to see him take a more sort of moderate and incremental approach to many of these policies. and we really don't know whether he is, you know, going to undertake what steve bannon has called days of thunder, an approach that exceeds what he believes is the shock and awe of the first term, or whether he will try something more gradual as a means of trying to increase his popularity. means of trying to increase his pepularity-_ popularity. one thing that has not changed _ popularity. one thing that has not changed is _ popularity. one thing that has not changed is his _ popularity. one thing that has not changed is his preference| not changed is his preference for using and showcasing his own properties. he's doing it again tonight at his golf in virginia. 0n the day we learned that he has launched a new crypto token with his own image on it, taken from that assassination attempt last
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year. assassination attempt last ear. . �* , ., assassination attempt last ear. . h ., year. that's right, and you know, year. that's right, and you know. in — year. that's right, and you know, in his _ year. that's right, and you know, in his first - year. that's right, and you know, in his first term - year. that's right, and you i know, in his first term trump was the subject of a lot of controversy for accusations of corruption, accusations of profiteering from the presidency and so forth. he really feels _ presidency and so forth. he really feels that it voters cared about that, the election wouldn't have turned out the way it did, and so he has a sort of blazed forward with everything from sneakers and trump branded bibles to potentially taking back the trump hotel that he maintained in washington during his first term. there are talks under way him to potentially retake that property, orfor his company him to potentially retake that property, or for his company to do so. it has been a world of astoria in the interim. so this is a president who feels very much emboldened, unconstrained. he has really shaken off a lot of the hindrances that made it difficult for him to operate in his first term, and those around him hope that he can accomplish a lot more because of that. what do you make of
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how this inauguration is going to look on monday? it's an enormous upheaval to move it indoors, not least accommodating those people who have already travelled here to washington. there are i think 200,000 people who have tickets for the mall. the capital one arena, where he was due to appear on monday, is part of the inauguration parade, only has seating for 20,000 people. that's right, and as we know from his first inauguration, donald trump cares very much about crowd sizes and the appearance of popularity. so you've got to think that he's a bit disappointed to be able to streetjournal reporter, so i do disappointed he streetjournal reporter, so i do disappointed to be able to have that adoring crowd arrayed bit disappointed to be able to have that adoring crowd arrayed all around him on the mall. but all around him on the mall. but the decision was made for the decision was made for safety reasons. it's supposed safety reasons. it's supposed to start snowing early sunday to start snowing early sunday morning and continue all the morning and continue all the way into monday. so in addition way into monday. so in addition to being quite cold, it may be to being quite cold, it may be windy, it may be icy, and so windy, it may be icy, and so
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the imagery instead will be i the imagery instead will be i think still quite grand, think still and historic because the president will be in the capital rotunda, which is a beautiful and historic chamber inside the capital is a beautiful and historic chamber inside the capital building, surrounded by is a beautiful and historic chamber surrounded |pital is a beautiful and historic chamber surrounded by al dignitaries, not as many people building, surrounded by dignitaries, not as many people as would have liked to be in as would have vicinity of the the immediate vicinity of the president will be able to be the immediate vicinity of the president will be able to be there, and there's quite a lot there, and there's quite a lot don't speak for the ofjockeying going on right now ofjockeying going on right now behind the scenes, but every behind the scenes, but every inauguration is a sombre moment inauguration is a sombre moment the historic moment, and a the historic moment, and a celebration of our democracy, celebration of our democracy, and i would expect this to be and i would expect this to be no different.— no different.— no different. and no doubt rotunda — no different. and no doubt rotunda is _ no different. and no doubt no different. and no doubt rotunda — no different. and no doubt rotunda is _ no different. and no doubt rotunda is a _ no different. and no doubt rotunda is a spectacular. rotunda is a spectacular setting, underneath that rate rotunda is a _ no different. and no doubt rotunda is a spectacular. rotunda is a spectacular setting, underneath that rate dome. just in terms of the dome. just in terms of the interview he gave this interview he gave this afternoon about his priorities afternoon about his priorities in the first week, he's talked in the first week, he's talked about immigration, which we'll about immigration, which we'll discuss in a second, but what discuss in a second, but what about tiktok? how does the wall about tiktok? how does the wall streetjournal view the streetjournal view the stand—off with tiktok? what stand—off with tiktok? what does it want to happen in the does it want to happen in the coming days?— coming days?— coming days? well, i should make clear _ coming days? well, i should make clear _ coming days? well, i should make clear that _ coming days? well, i should make clear that i _ coming days? well, i should make clear that i am - coming days? well, i should make clear that _ coming days? well, i should make clear that i _ coming days? well, i should make clear that i am -
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coming days? well, i should make clear that i am a - coming days? well, i should make clear that i am a walll make clear that i am a wall streetjournal reporter, so i coming days? well, i should make clear that i am a - coming days? well, i should make clear that i am a walll make clear that i am a wall streetjournal reporter, so i don't speakfor don't speakfor streetjournal reporter, so i streetjournal reporter, so i don't speak for the editorial page and their opinions. i actually don't know what they think of the tiktok deal. but trump has indicated that he would like to make some sort of deal that allows tiktok to continue to operate despite the deadline, which is tomorrow, and the company having said that they plan to have the service go dark for american users, which i think would be an absolute earthquake, considering the fact that something like 170 million americans are on tiktok and at least as far as my children are concerned, they all appear to be quite addicted to it.- be quite addicted to it. yours and mine _ be quite addicted to it. yours and mine both. _ be quite addicted to it. yours and mine both. so _ be quite addicted to it. yours and mine both. so this - be quite addicted to it. yours and mine both. so this is - and mine both. so this is something _ and mine both. so this is something that - and mine both. so this is something that passed . and mine both. so this is| something that passed to and mine both. so this is i something that passed to a massive bipartisan margin but in the interim has since become quite unpopular with both parties as they realise how it's going to affect so many of their constituents. and
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chicago is one of the major us cities now preparing for a second donald trump administration. infact, here behind me as trump tower, and that's where on inauguration day we are expecting a large demonstration to come to protest many of donald trump's initial policies. he hopes to enact, of course, when he takes office. at the top of that list is going to be what calling the largest mass deportation effort in the country largest mas
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