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fighting if further negotiations collapse. hello, i'm christian fraser. donald trump has arrived in washington ahead of his inauguration on monday. he is hosting tonight a fundraiser in virginia. there is currently a firework display happening for the 500 guests. president—elect trump is due to speak. we'll bring you that as soon as he does. but according to those who attended, it is now a much more diverse group. the president appears to be in very good spirits, and it is
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one of several scheduled events before he takes the oath on monday. but it will all look very different to how it was planned because the temperatures here in washington are due to plummet in the next 24 are due to plummet in the next 2a hours. there is frantic work to move the inauguration indoors. the set is being built indoors. the set is being built in the capitol rotunda. we are being told the president—elect is overseeing all the details. but not everyone in washington has come and support. there are thousands of anti— trump demonstrators marching through the capital, protesting against the capital, protesting against the policies of the incoming administration. organisers had expected 50,000 people, the real turnout was probably closer to 5000. the people's march much smaller than in 2017 when donald trump first came to power, but those attending say there is now much more diverse group. it's a nice reminder that even though we didn't have the numbers in november, that we're not alone and it's — we shouldn't give up and just
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kind of roll on our backs. and, you know, in two years we can make some more change. i think that we should come out here and voice our concerns. like, why do you want people to go back home — because you think they do not belong here? america was built upon immigrants. am i wrong? no, but it'sjust like — we should have a say in that. because you can'tjust deport people just because you feel like they don't belong here. he has no real ideology other than — he has no real ideology other than donald _ he has no real ideology other than donald trump, - he has no real ideology other than donald trump, and - he has no real ideology other than donald trump, and so . than donald trump, and so whoever_ than donald trump, and so whoever appeals _ than donald trump, and so whoever appeals to- than donald trump, and so whoever appeals to that i than donald trump, and so i whoever appeals to that very basest — whoever appeals to that very basest of _ whoever appeals to that very basest of desires _ whoever appeals to that very basest of desires in - whoever appeals to that very basest of desires in trump, i basest of desires in trump, whoever_ basest of desires in trump, whoever appeals _ basest of desires in trump, whoever appeals to- basest of desires in trump, whoever appeals to that - basest of desires in trump, . whoever appeals to that more, is going — whoever appeals to that more, is going to _ whoever appeals to that more, is going to get _ whoever appeals to that more, is going to get trump - whoever appeals to that more, is going to get trump to - whoever appeals to that more, is going to get trump to go- is going to get trump to go along — is going to get trump to go along with _ is going to get trump to go along with whatever- is going to get trump to go along with whatever they . is going to get trump to go. along with whatever they want from _ along with whatever they want from hint _ along with whatever they want from him. ~ ., along with whatever they want from him-— along with whatever they want from him. ~ ., , from him. women, their rights are slowly _ from him. women, their rights are slowly being _ from him. women, their rights are slowly being stripped - from him. women, their rights are slowly being stripped away| are slowly being stripped away from them, day by day, and we just have to stand up and take a stand, because it is our body, it's our choice. we cannot allow this to go on anymore. the view there of some of those marching today. our north america correspondent john sudworth was watching. well, they're calling this the people's protest,
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a broad coalition of groups here on the streets of washington to protest against what they see as donald trump's threats to civil rights, to social justice, to women's rights, to the protection of minorities and immigrants. america is, few people can doubt now, a deeply divided country on the brink of radical change. that is what donald trump promised before his election. it's why his supporters voted for him, and they will be hoping that this time around he is far more prepared to push his agenda through. for his opponents here on the streets, of course, that is precisely what they fear. the decision to bring the inauguration indoors because of the arctic weather forecast is posing some challenges, and when you think back to the scenes of violence that greeted the defeat in 2020, so far these protests have been very, very peaceful. what a difference
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four years makes. ahead of his trip to washinton, donald trump told the american networks that he will prioritise illegal immigration on his very first day in the white house. there will be raids beginning as soon as tuesday to detain and deport people living in the us illegally, and according to our us media partner cbs, those operations are set to begin in chicago, a city with a large migrant population. there are other so—called sanctuary cities in their sights. they include new york, la, miami and detroit. our correspondent carl nasman is in chicago and filed this report. chicago is one of the major us cities now preparing for a second donald trump administration. in fact, here behind me is trump tower, and that's where on inauguration day we're expecting a large demonstration to come to protest many of donald trump's initial policies that he hopes to enact, of course, when he takes office. at the top of that list is going to be what he's
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calling the largest mass deportation effort in the country's history. we're getting some hints now that chicago could be the centre of that. tom homan, who is donald trump's border czar, has said that chicago will be ground zero for that effort. he has been telling the bbc that ice, immigration and customs enforcement, will be doing a targeted enforcement operation in chicago. he has since started to walk those comments back, but it is all adding to the unease here among the immigrant community that come tuesday, we really could see some deportations taking place. i've been speaking with one advocate of immigration here in chicago. here's what she told me about the mood. we've come into contact with tens of thousands of folks the last couple of months. folks are definitely worried and folks are definitely thinking about why is there so much anti—immigrant sentiment, particularly for folks that have been here for a long time.
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and so there's concern, there's worry. they's trying to understand what do i do if i do get detained? what happens to my house if i'm a homeowner? what happens to my kids if i have children in school? what happens to potentially, even, if i'm going through medical care? so those are usually the types of concerns that folks have. according to some estimates there are around 11 million undocumented immigrants living illegally in the united states right now. the kind of operation targeting that many people could really stretch resources here nationwide. in addition to that, if you look at cities like chicago and other major cities, they have laws on the books called sanctuary city laws that prevent local officials from co—ordinating with federal authorities. that will make the this sort of deportation effort all the more difficult. and just a reminder — we will have full live coverage of donald trump's inauguration here on bbc news. our special programme from washington starts monday at 12:00 gmt, that's 7:00am eastern.
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one of the first things donald trump will need to tackle when he gets to the oval offce is what to do about tiktok. he has told reporters today he will most likely give the company a 90—day reprieve from the potential ban here the us, which is supposed to come in on sunday night. just in the last hour, tiktok alerted its users in the us of the ban and said their services will be temporarily unavailable as they work to restore services as soon as possible. donald trump described the tiktok ban as a very big situation, but he believes a limited extension is the appropriate step. there is a provision for a 90—day reprieve in the legislation, but it may not be enough to prevent the app going dark for at least 2a hours. earlier, the outgoing biden administration dismissed tiktok�*s warning that its operations would be suspended sunday as no more than a stunt. the press secretary said there was no reason for the app
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to take action before trump takes office on monday. joining me live now from wyoming is content creator dylan hollis, who has 10.2 million followers on tiktok, and his famed baking online has lead to now two popular cookbooks. i don't know, i can hardly count that high!— i don't know, i can hardly count that high! well, i hope the are count that high! well, i hope they are all _ count that high! well, i hope they are all going _ count that high! well, i hope they are all going to - count that high! well, i hope they are all going to stay - count that high! well, i hope | they are all going to stay with you. you have our... what do you. you have our... what do you do? you back online, you have two popular cookbooks. so tell me how important tiktok is to your business.— to your business. well, heavens. _ to your business. well, heavens, i— to your business. well, heavens, i mean, - to your business. well, heavens, i mean, howl to your business. well, - heavens, i mean, how important is wind to a sailing boat. it is wind to a sailing boat. it is very difficult to think about what is going to happen. i do, i've got two cookbooks, and that has only happened because of tiktok. what is an entertainer to do without an audience? and to see a time accounting down to when 10.2 million people are going to vanish in front of you — evans, it's hard to know how to feel. the white house said the
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warning from tiktok is a stunt, but maybe it's not, because i'm looking at a news flash on my screen here. in the last few minutes, oracle prepares to start shutting tiktok servers saturday night. so it's not just tiktok, this. it's the cloud computing companies that carry the service, who are worried they might be liable under this law.— under this law. yes, it's understandable - under this law. yes, it's understandable that - under this law. yes, it's - understandable that everyone's running around, you know, sort of like chickens without their heads, because, yes, there is some seriousness to it. i would not say it's a stunt. there's too many people involved. you've got some of my contemporaries online, who are spending today sort of morning as if they've lost their firstborn, and while i don't think it's that serious, it's going to take some real thought on how we are going to pivot and if some people will be able to. , ., , , , ., to. obviously there is an importance _ to. obviously there is an importance in _ to. obviously there is an importance in tiktok- to. obviously there is an importance in tiktok to l to. obviously there is an i importance in tiktok to the economy. there is a huge ad
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spend on tiktok. are you able to estimate, would it cost you money if it went dark for 2h to estimate, would it cost you money if it went dark for 2a or 48 money if it went dark for 24 or 48 hours? has money if it went dark for 24 or 48 hours?— money if it went dark for 24 or 48 hours? �* , ., ., , ._ 48 hours? as night follows day, of course- _ 48 hours? as night follows day, of course- i— 48 hours? as night follows day, of course. i mean, _ 48 hours? as night follows day, of course. i mean, those - 48 hours? as night follows day, of course. i mean, those 10.2 . of course. i mean, those 10.2 million people, they are friends of mine and they are wonderful people. but as far as the business is concerned, those eyes on advertisements. so what is there to be lost? well, yes, significant money. now, those who have been on tiktok, and we have had fun, we have done our things for quite some time, we have of course diversified and we've got other ventures. you mention my two books. i do feel for the folks who haven't spent time in this limelight, to diversify, and thus they will be losing, quite frankly, everything. [30 thus they will be losing, quite frankly, everything.— frankly, everything. do you have any — frankly, everything. do you have any sympathy, - frankly, everything. do you. have any sympathy, though, frankly, everything. do you - have any sympathy, though, with the concern that lawmakers have expressed that this is a chinese company that harvests data of american users, and it is using this service to undermine national security? well, that's just the thing, right? i am a twentysomething who yells at my camera in a
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kitchen. what on earth do i know of these things? you've had a lot of folks my age, younger than me, saying that they have the correct answer, they have the correct answer, they know what's right, they know what's wrong. these are folks almost thrice my age, and they've been doing what they've been doing and they've been fed all this information, and there in high elected office. and i don't think i can do anything but trust that they are making a more informed decision than me. now, can i still complain about it? you bet your bottom dollar, and i will. however, i think the opposite, assuming that i would know what to do in this situation if you sat me down there in the white house — i wouldn't have a clue. haifa i wouldn't have a clue. how revolutionary _ i wouldn't have a clue. how revolutionary do _ i wouldn't have a clue. how revolutionary do you - i wouldn't have a clue. how revolutionary do you feel i i wouldn't have a clue. how revolutionary do you feel about this? because there are some who call themselves tiktok refugees, who are signing up to a mandarin service called rednote and at the same time accepting all the rules that are put down by the communist party in china. would that be an avenue that you would go down to protect your business?
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no, i would down to protect your business? no, iwould not down to protect your business? no, i would not go to that degree, and i think my friends who are doing so, i say you need to rethink your priorities and you need to rethink what you hold dear in this life. because, no, it's not that serious. the there's the other social media companies, and i don't feel like a revolutionary, because we are not refugees. you are in the reporting business. you know, quite frankly, what real tragedy and real downfall looks like, and this is quite... you know, we are so pampered to think that this is such a tragedy. it is upsetting, but it kind of stops there.- it kind of stops there. well, listen, it kind of stops there. well, listen. if — it kind of stops there. well, listen, if you _ it kind of stops there. well, listen, if you do _ it kind of stops there. well, listen, if you do reappear. it kind of stops there. well, | listen, if you do reappear on monday, i promise i will add to your followers. monday, i promise i will add to yourfollowers. i am monday, i promise i will add to your followers. i am watching the recipes and i am watching the recipes and i am watching the cooking while you are talking to me, and it's talking to me, and its building my appetite, let's say that, at a late time on the night. but it looks very good, what you do. thank you very much for coming on, and best of
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luck with it. much for coming on, and best of luck with it— luck with it. pleasure, thank ou. luck with it. pleasure, thank yom dylan _ luck with it. pleasure, thank you. dylan hollis, _ luck with it. pleasure, thank you. dylan hollis, one - luck with it. pleasure, thank you. dylan hollis, one of. luck with it. pleasure, thank| you. dylan hollis, one of the many peeple _ you. dylan hollis, one of the many people and _ you. dylan hollis, one of the many people and businesses you. dylan hollis, one of the i many people and businesses on tiktok who have concerns tonight about what might be happening in the next few days. in the last hour we have been getting reports from hamas sources in gaza that israeli forces have begun withdrawing from areas around rafah in the south of the strip to the so—called philadelphi corridor along the border between egypt and gaza. the bbc has not yet independently confirmed that, but it would correspond with what we would expect to see once the ceasefire comes into effect at 8:30am in the morning local time. but as far as we are aware, hamas is yet to supply the names of the three hostages who will be released first, which were supposed to be handed over at 4:00pm local time. in phase one of the agreement, over a period of six weeks, 33 hostages will be freed. in return, according to egypt, about 1,900 palestinian prisoners will be released. they are ready to surge the humanitarian aid into gaza, but that of course contingent on the ceasefire. the following two phases would include more hostage and prisoner releases and the long—term reconstruction of gaza, but there is an awful
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lot to be decided before then. lucy williamson has the latest from jerusalem. the faces of israel's hostages never aged in hostage square, as the days of their captivity were counted. now, for some, the countdown to freedom has begun. three hostages are due to be freed tomorrow in exchange for 95 palestinians in israeli jails, anyjoy masked by anxiety for many families here, unsure whether their relatives have survived. kfir bibas should have celebrated his second birthday with family today. he has now spent most of his life as a hostage. it feels like the moment of truth is arriving. so it's hard, and it's
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confusing, and it's very easy and tempting to just be, like, "yes, it's over, we are finally here". but i don't let myself think this way and feel this way because of all the disappointments before. it has been a long wait for people on both sides of this war. for over a year, the leaders of israel and hamas have been determined to show strength, but their refusal to agree a ceasefire left their people paying the price. on the eve of the ceasefire tonight, as israel prepared to receive the hostages, their prime minister said the door was open to resume the war. translation: both president | trump and president biden gave full support to israel's right to return to fighting if israel concludes the negotiation on
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the second phase is hopeless. if we have to go back to fighting, we'll do this in new ways and with great force. in gaza, the countdown to peace was marked by another day of war. civil defence teams say more than 120 people have been killed since the ceasefire was announced on wednesday. waiting aid and the return of displaced people to their homes — a future lodged beyond the horizon of the conflict. translation: there is nothing to get excited or happy about. i as you can see, there's destruction everywhere — a lost future. destruction after destruction. translation: everyone . is worried, and the situation is very difficult, but we're left to tell the story of the past year and the harms. my feelings are mixed. i don't know if it's happiness or what. the most important thing
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is that we feel safe. this ceasefire deal is partial, fragile and complicated — a shaky foundation for building peace, where so much has been destroyed. well, by mid afternoon today, israel was supposed to have received the names of the three hostages due to be released tomorrow. it's now past midnight here, and they're still been no confirmation of which hostages will be released. mr netanyahu said this afternoon that hamas had not submitted the list as agreed and that israel would not proceed without that list. each step of this deal has been slow and difficult. this final step is no different. it isa it is a fragile situation, a very precarious piece if it comes. i've been speaking with former state department senior policy advisor on middle east peace
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process laura blumenfeld. tell me your thoughts on the speech that we got from the israeli prime minister tonight. what did you make of what you heard? ~ ., ., ., heard? well, from him and from really everyone _ heard? well, from him and from really everyone in _ heard? well, from him and from really everyone in the _ heard? well, from him and from really everyone in the region i really everyone in the region and here in washington, dc, it is biting your nails down to the knob. there is a sense of relief, maybe, but no rejoicing, because already you can see the seeds of the next conflict as we try to wind down this one. netanyahu has claimed that he has a commitment from incoming president trump to continue fighting if his security demands aren't met. on the very same day that the incoming national security advisor for donald trump, michael watts, met with the hostage families here in washington, he gave them his commitment, the trump administration's commitment, that the second and third phase of the ceasefire deal will go through. of the ceasefire deal will go throu~h. �* ., of the ceasefire deal
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