sorry all 16 charges. again... sorry all 16 charges. and — again... sorry all 16 charges. and he — again... sorry all 16 charges. and he did _ again... sorry all 16 charges. and he did plead guilty to all of them _ and he did plead guilty to all of them. that means there is an automatic— of them. that means there is an automatic life sentence. he is over_ automatic life sentence. he is over 18 — automatic life sentence. he is over 18 and he has obviously been — over 18 and he has obviously been convicted of three murders and ten — been convicted of three murders and ten attempted murders, eight — and ten attempted murders, eight of— and ten attempted murders, eight of those of children, but he cannot_ eight of those of children, but he cannot qualify for a whole life tariff _ he cannot qualify for a whole life tariff because if you are under — life tariff because if you are under 21 _ life tariff because if you are under 21 you don't qualify for a whole life tariff. so you will — a whole life tariff. so you will have a minimum term set within— will have a minimum term set within that life sentence. but this conviction of axel rudakubana although it brings a finality— rudakubana although it brings a finality to who it was that killed _ finality to who it was that killed those little girls, not that — killed those little girls, not that there was very much doubt about— that there was very much doubt about it. — that there was very much doubt about it, but that it was murder, _ about it, but that it was murder, it wasn't a mental—health defence murder, it wasn't a mental— health defence that would — mental— health defence that would have found him to fountain get guilty of manslaughter. it's only going to be — manslaughter. it's only going to be the _ manslaughter. it's only going to be the start of the agonising discussions about this case. axel rudakubana

wasn't _ this case. axel rudakubana wasn't an unknown he wasn't someone _ wasn't an unknown he wasn't someone that no one knew anything _ someone that no one knew anything about. this was a boy who— anything about. this was a boy who had — anything about. this was a boy who had been expelled from school, _ who had been expelled from school, a _ who had been expelled from school, a boy who had returned to the _ school, a boy who had returned to the school and attacked a pupil — to the school and attacked a pupil with a hockey stick after he had — pupil with a hockey stick after he had been expelled, he was then— he had been expelled, he was then into _ he had been expelled, he was then into other education establishments, rarely attending the last one, he was in the — attending the last one, he was in the purview of children services _ in the purview of children services in lancashire, they were — services in lancashire, they were fully aware of the issues that he — were fully aware of the issues that he had and as i understand it he _ that he had and as i understand it he had — that he had and as i understand it he had also been referred to the prevent scheme, not because they were — the prevent scheme, not because they were concerned about him having — they were concerned about him having a — they were concerned about him having a islamist... but there were — having a islamist... but there were concerns about some of the material — were concerns about some of the material that he was viewing ohlihe — material that he was viewing online. this was a person he was — online. this was a person he was flashing on every radar, his parents are having great difficulty controlling him at home, _ difficulty controlling him at home, and yet he still seems to have _ home, and yet he still seems to have treen— home, and yet he still seems to have been able to get a taxi from — have been able to get a taxi from his— have been able to get a taxi from his home address on the

29th— from his home address on the 29th of— from his home address on the 29th ofjuly and travelled to this dance class, walk up the stairs. — this dance class, walk up the stairs, and set about stabbing as marry— stairs, and set about stabbing as many young children as possible. there is going to be a huge — possible. there is going to be a huge post—conviction set of inquiries _ a huge post—conviction set of inquiries into how it is that a nran— inquiries into how it is that a man who _ inquiries into how it is that a man who was flashing on so nranym _ man who was flashing on so nranym a _ man who was flashing on so many... a young man who was flashing — many... a young man who was flashing on _ many... a young man who was flashing on so many lights on the dashboard, as it were, were still able — the dashboard, as it were, were still able to go and commit such— still able to go and commit such a _ still able to go and commit such a horrible and violent act — such a horrible and violent act the _ such a horrible and violent act. the home secretary the home — act. the home secretary the home secretary said this would be a _ home secretary said this would be a deeply distressing time for the — be a deeply distressing time for the families of the murdered girls and the survivors... murdered girls and the survivors. . ._ survivors... she did acknowledge - survivors... she did acknowledge that i survivors... she did i acknowledge that after survivors... she did - acknowledge that after the trial that was when the questions would be asked. and actions will be take place. what level will these actions take place will it be a local

or national level? i take place will it be a local or national level?- take place will it be a local or national level? i would love to answer— or national level? i would love to answer that _ or national level? i would love to answer that question - or national level? i would love to answer that question but i to answer that question but annoyingly all of the authorities in this case have refused _ authorities in this case have refused to discuss it even in an off— refused to discuss it even in an off the _ refused to discuss it even in an off the record manner with journalists in advance of this trial— journalists in advance of this trial taking place. very often we are — trial taking place. very often we are able to have discussions that would not be broadcast until— that would not be broadcast until the end of the trial but the public authorities have refused _ the public authorities have refused to engage in any of those — refused to engage in any of those discussions so we are slightly— those discussions so we are slightly stabbing in the dark about— slightly stabbing in the dark about what is going to be possible in this. inevitably they— possible in this. inevitably they will have to be as some sort — they will have to be as some sort of— they will have to be as some sort of inquests or public inquiry— sort of inquests or public inquiry into how it is that how a young — inquiry into how it is that how a young man who was so well known — a young man who was so well known who having a violent nature _ known who having a violent nature was able to go out and commit — nature was able to go out and commit the most abhorrent of

violent— commit the most abhorrent of violent crimes. we don't know but it— violent crimes. we don't know but it is— violent crimes. we don't know but it is widely acknowledged that several public... have allowed _ that several public... have allowed axel rudakubana to slip through— allowed axel rudakubana to slip through the net with catastrophic results. i think it will— catastrophic results. i think it will have to be quite high level— it will have to be quite high level inquiries into how it is that— level inquiries into how it is that he _ level inquiries into how it is that he was able to commit this completely abhorrent crime. but i completely abhorrent crime. but i can't _ completely abhorrent crime. but i can't say— completely abhorrent crime. but i can't say that with any source _ i can't say that with any source of information because public — source of information because public bodies have refused to discuss — public bodies have refused to discuss that with me before this— discuss that with me before this trial _ discuss that with me before this trial. is discuss that with me before this trial. , discuss that with me before this trial-— this trial. is it too generous to suggest _ this trial. is it too generous to suggest that _ this trial. is it too generous to suggest that they - this trial. is it too generous to suggest that they have l to suggest that they have refused because of there was a fear of prejudicing this case? that is exactly why but in the past we have had a good relationship with public bodies

and they have known we wouldn't be able to publish before the verdict. �* , ., , be able to publish before the verdict. �* , . , verdict. but they have been so concerned _ verdict. but they have been so concerned about _ verdict. but they have been so concerned about information l concerned about information getting — concerned about information getting out and influencing a jury~ — getting out and influencing a jury. those discussions will begin— jury. those discussions will begin immediately because there is no _ begin immediately because there is no fear— begin immediately because there is no fear of prejudicing a jury. _ is no fear of prejudicing a jury, there have been some concerns— jury, there have been some concerns about a sentencing hearing _ concerns about a sentencing hearing which will happen quite soon _ hearing which will happen quite soon but— hearing which will happen quite soon. but there will now be an avalanche _ soon. but there will now be an avalanche of axel rudakubana being — avalanche of axel rudakubana being put into the public domain _ being put into the public domain because lots of journalists are aware of a lot of information about it but not many — of information about it but not many of — of information about it but not many of those information has been _ many of those information has been given in an official manner~ _ been given in an official manner. now we need to get the information into the public domain _ information into the public domain in an official manner so that— domain in an official manner so that they— domain in an official manner so that they can be an inquiry in asto—

that they can be an inquiry in as to how— that they can be an inquiry in as to how this young man was able _ as to how this young man was able to— as to how this young man was able to murder three young girls— able to murder three young girls and _ able to murder three young girls and attempt to murder othersm _ girls and attempt to murder others... the sheer brutality of these _ others... the sheer brutality of these murders and the number of these murders and the number of injuries— of these murders and the number of injuries that were because of injuries that were because of these _ of injuries that were because of these young girls and to the people — of these young girls and to the people that try to help them will be — people that try to help them will be truly shocking and people _ will be truly shocking and people are going to want to know— people are going to want to know how it is that this young man— know how it is that this young man was— know how it is that this young man was not prevented from carrying _ man was not prevented from carrying out this crime. as carrying out this crime. is distressing carrying out this crime. s distressing as carrying out this crime. is distressing as those carrying out this crime. sis distressing as those details will be, they are the kind of details that would ordinarily have come out had this trial proceeded with him continuing to maintain that he was not guilty. forthe to maintain that he was not guilty. for the families that don't have to sit through that, but there will be a great deal of interest in what happened to

these little girls who were just at a club dancing to taylor swift songs... what will now happening _ taylor swift songs... what will now happening is _ taylor swift songs... what will now happening is there - taylor swift songs... what will now happening is there will. taylor swift songs... what will now happening is there will be j now happening is there will be a sentencing hearing where the case _ a sentencing hearing where the case will — a sentencing hearing where the case will essentially be open to the — case will essentially be open to the judge. he will see a lot of the — to the judge. he will see a lot of the details on the papers. but the _ of the details on the papers. but the details of the crimes and how— but the details of the crimes and how they were committed will be — and how they were committed will be laid out before the judge _ will be laid out before the judge and obviously at that point — judge and obviously at that point the evidence which would have _ point the evidence which would have been presented to the jury. — have been presented to the jury, some of it will be made available _ jury, some of it will be made available to media, so cctv footage _ available to media, so cctv footage that isn't too gruesome, otherfootage, details _ gruesome, otherfootage, details of what was found at his house in terms of the charges _ his house in terms of the charges around possession, the charges — charges around possession, the charges around possession, the charges around terrorist manuals, all of that will be put before the judge and then will be — put before the judge and then will be able to be reported

inaccurately —— accurately in detail — inaccurately —— accurately in detail. but what wouldn't have been _ detail. but what wouldn't have been put — detail. but what wouldn't have been put before the jury would have _ been put before the jury would have been the details of axel rudakubana's past because that may not— rudakubana's past because that may not have been something put before _ may not have been something put before the jury. we have been waiting — before the jury. we have been waiting to have a sensible conversation about his past and what _ conversation about his past and what they— conversation about his past and what they might have been in terms — what they might have been in terms of— what they might have been in terms of opportunities to intervene, or perhaps there weren't— intervene, or perhaps there weren't opportunities to intervene or why was it that that— intervene or why was it that that was— intervene or why was it that that was impossible to in this man's— that was impossible to in this man's life. it's going to be a very— man's life. it's going to be a very sad _ man's life. it's going to be a very sad life who was thrown out of — very sad life who was thrown out of school, involvement of the education authorities, children's services, and we believe. _ children's services, and we believe, prevent. despite all ofthose _ believe, prevent. despite all of those interventions and police _ of those interventions and police officers called to the house _ police officers called to the house and people from public services — house and people from public services going to visit him at home — services going to visit him at home as _ services going to visit him at home. as i attend it he rarely

attended _ home. as i attend it he rarely attended his sixth form college. but people did visit him — college. but people did visit him his— college. but people did visit him. his parents were deeply a dance class in southport last july. let parentsi you of a dance class in southport last concerned about his behaviour july. let parents were of a dance class in southport last july. let parents were deeply him. his parents were deeply concerned about his behaviour but somehow, still it was but somehow, still it was possible for him to order a possible for him to order a taxi, — possible for him to order a taxi, travel to that dance taxi, — possible for him to order a taxi, travel to that dance class _ taxi, travel to that dance class _ taxi, travel to that dance class and carry out this crime class and carry out this crime with— class and carry out this crime with— class and carry out this crime with a — with a — class and carry out this crime with a knife he didn't have class and carry out this crime with a knife he didn't have with— with a knife he didn't have with him _ with a knife he didn't have with— with a knife he didn't have with him _ with a knife he didn't have with him any other day any with him any other day any other— with him any other day any other— with him any other day any other weaponry. other weaponry. with him any other day any otherweaponry. but with him any other day any otherweaponry. but with him any other day any other weaponry. but with a knife — other weaponry. but with a knife he _ other weaponry. but with a with him any other day any other weaponry. but with a knife — other weaponry. but with a knife he _ other weaponry. but with a knife he was able to carry out knife he was able to carry out one _ knife he was able to carry out one of— knife he was able to carry out one _ knife he was able to carry out one of— knife he was able to carry out one of the _ knife he was able to carry out one of the most serious acts of one of the _ knife he was able to carry out one of the most serious acts of violence — one of the most serious acts of violence — one of the most serious acts of violence against young children violence against young children in this— violence against young children in this country for many many in this— violence against young children in this country for many many years. — in this country for many many years. and _ in this country for many many years, and there is obviously years. — in this country for many many years. and _ in this country for many many years, and there is obviously going — years, and there is obviously going to _ years, and there is obviously going to have to be a great going — years, and there is obviously going to _ years, and there is obviously going to have to be a great deal— going to have to be a great deal— going to have to be a great deal of— going to have to be a great deal of inquiry and investigation about how that deal of— going to have to be a great deal of inquiry and investigation about how that was allowed to happen. just to was allowed to happen. just to remind you _ remind you _ was allowed to happen. just to remind you of— was allowed to happen. just to remind you of this _ was allowed to happen. just to was allowed to happen. just to remind you of— was allowed to happen. just to remind you of this _ was allowed to happen. just to remind you of this breaking - remind you of this breaking news that axel rudakubana who remind you of this breaking - remind you of this breaking news that axel rudakubana who is 18 has now pleaded guilty on is 18 has now pleaded guilty on the first day of his trial to the first day of his trial to murdering three little girls at murdering three little girls at a dance class in southport last a dance class in southport last july. let's remind you of

july. �* children and two

eight other children and two adults. alice da silva agra, bebe king and elsie dot stancombe were stabbed to death on the 29th ofjuly in. some are in southport at the start of the holidays. it should have been the happiest of places instead horror visited this town. as a holiday club children had dancing. six—year—old club children had