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this is the context on bbc news. the on bbc news. president has promised to stamp the president has promised to stamp down on illegal migration declaring a national emergency at the us— mexico border and seeking to revoke birthright citizenship for the rights advocates have called the order unconstitutional. we have touched on immigration already. as we wait for donald
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we have touched on immigration already. 1 people ait for donald we have touched on immigration already. 1 people ait f( have ald we have touched on immigration already. 1 people ait f( have come groups of people who have come to this country in search of a better life is not the answer. what will you do to push back though? obviously in california
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gavin newsom has pulled together around $50 million for the bills they will undoubtedly incur fighting these directives from donald trump. have you put together a war chest in the same way? i wouldn't say a war chest in the same way that gavin newsom has we're situated differently here and the state of michigan. i do know that our attorney general has indicated that we're party to this legal action protesting the executive order that president trump has put in place. we will use all of the tools at our disposal to ensure that people are treated with fairness and in accordance with the law. what happens when the federal government looks to massachusetts in the same way that they've looked at chicago? will local law officials work with federal immigration and customs enforcement to round people up? i think that remains to be seen. of course those are decisions made at the local
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level as police departments answer to their local city authorities. however, i know many, many police officers understand that vilifying immigrants and their communities is not helpful, tearing apart families can be very destructive and cause multiple other problems. they are not helpful, these enforcement measures that are gratuitously applied are not helpful to keeping peace and safety in neighborhoods. i am very hopeful that cooler heads will prevail when it comes to the implementation of any of these things. let's turn to massachusetts. mary anne is in cape cod massachusetts. is it a similar picture they are? do you know about what provisions that the state houses are putting in place to tackle some of these things coming from federal government? in things coming from federal covernment? , , government? in massachusetts it's against — government? in massachusetts
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it's against the _ government? in massachusetts it's against the law _ government? in massachusetts it's against the law to _ government? in massachusetts it's against the law to have - it's against the law to have local law enforcement cooperate or help ice. it's up to ice to do the kind of activities are talking about. i on the last hour, just before i came on you with you the trump administration lifted the ban on ice that now would allow them to go to places that previously had been considered sanctuaries of sorts. you can do a raid on the church, he couldn't write a hospital, a school, those were all considered safe places. that is no longer true. i think when you add that to the fact that he also got rid of the committee that works to try to reunite the 1000 children, underage children separated from theirfamilies and underage children separated from their families and their parents the last time trump was in office and to cease the activity, you start to see an unavoidable belief ofjust how brutal this is going to be. and that they will be rates across the country anywhere and everywhere for days on end. you
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also see what — everywhere for days on end. you also see what a strange it's going to put our resources if you don't have local law enforcement working with ice in cities like boston or in michigan or in chicago or in la. does the federal government have the resources to do what donald trump has promised and deliver mass deportation? weill. deliver mass deportation? well, the art deliver mass deportation? well, the part of— deliver mass deportation? well, the part of the — deliver mass deportation? well, the part of the mass _ the part of the mass deportation is enforcing cases that already went through the system — that already went through the system. one of the first things he did was ended catch and release _ he did was ended catch and release. so somebody is caught, maybe _ release. so somebody is caught, maybe they've committed a crime and instead of being given over the ice — and instead of being given over the ice and deported, we don't want _ the ice and deported, we don't want criminals here they are just— want criminals here they are just released back into the general— just released back into the general public. we saw unfortunately and famously that lakin _ unfortunately and famously that lakin reilly's killers was one of those _ lakin reilly's killers was one of those killers.— of those killers. democrats supported _ of those killers. democrats supported it _ of those killers. democrats supported it last _
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of those killers. democrats supported it last night - supported it last night and that lakin riley legislation. no one wants criminals released back into society. the question is whether they are dehumanizing migrants who are working hard for their families and whether they are the sort of people who will be rounded up of people who will be rounded up as part of this overall plan. i up as part of this overall lan. ., , ., up as part of this overall ian, ., , ., ., up as part of this overall lan. ., ., up as part of this overall plan. i told you on friday at my cell. — plan. i told you on friday at my cell. i'm _ plan. i told you on friday at my cell, i'm conservative i plan. i told you on friday at. my cell, i'm conservative but to me — my cell, i'm conservative but to me if_ my cell, i'm conservative but to me if you are here illegally and that's the only crime he committed i think you should be allowed — committed i think you should be allowed to stay i have a lot of friends — allowed to stay i have a lot of friends or— allowed to stay i have a lot of friends or disagree with the on that _ friends or disagree with the on that. that's not what the law is. that. that's not what the law is we — that. that's not what the law is. we have to have law and order — is. we have to have law and order. when you have deportations, mass deportation, yes, everybody convicted of a crime, — yes, everybody convicted of a crime, you _ yes, everybody convicted of a crime, you not here legally, -et crime, you not here legally, get them _ crime, you not here legally, get them out. if you need resources let's go do that. when it— resources let's go do that. when it comes to local law enforcement cooperating i think a lot— enforcement cooperating i think a lot of— enforcement cooperating i think a lot of local policeman will see this _ a lot of local policeman will see this as a positive, they will— see this as a positive, they will he _ see this as a positive, they will be able to try to clean up their— will be able to try to clean up their communities for that if it goes— their communities for that if it goes as far as we've seen people _ it goes as far as we've seen people who are law—abiding being — people who are law—abiding being persecuted i think will
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see arr — being persecuted i think will see an outcry against that against _ see an outcry against that against the community the law enforcement is operating in. we talked enforcement is operating in. - talked about the legal aspect of it as a moral challenge to the president. this morning in front of the president himself bishop marion edgar made this comment at the washington national cathedral prayer service. in national cathedral prayer service. ., ., ., service. in the name of our god, i ask _ service. in the name of our god, i ask you _ service. in the name of our god, i ask you to _ service. in the name of our god, i ask you to have - service. in the name of our. god, i ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now. there are gay, lesbian and transgender children in democratic, republican and independent families. some who fear for their lives. and the people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings who labor in poultry farms and meat—packing plants, who washed the dishes after we eat at restaurants and
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work the night shifts in hospitals, they may not be citizens or have the proper documentation but the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. ., , criminals. you see, that's really interesting - criminals. you see, that's really interesting to - criminals. you see, that's really interesting to me, | criminals. you see, that's- really interesting to me, mary anne, there is no doubt in my mind that democrats lost in november on the issue of immigration. if you look at the boat and how it panned out across 50 states the boat shifted to the right. there is overwhelming support for better policing of the border and the returning of criminals who shouldn't be in the country. in terms of polling and support for the president, is there a limit to that and is there a dangerfor limit to that and is there a danger for middle—of—the—road americans that if it looks cruel, if it looks dehumanizing this president loses support? i've already seen one pole, because the new york times that showed the policies were more
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popular than trump. i think if you start to look at how they're going to go about this, they're going to go about this, they don't care... there aren't 20 million illegal immigrants in this country who are criminals. that is just not true. what is going to happen is many latinos and others who supported trump who have family members who are not documented belief that they've done all the right things they've worked hard, they pay their taxes, they do everything as it is a family member. and so they are going to be ok because they didn't commitany going to be ok because they didn't commit any crimes. that's not what's going to happen here. everybody�*s going to get swept up. everybody�*s getting thrown out. the trump administration does not care whether you did the thing or not. they put the emphasis on whether you did the thing or not. they put the emphasis on the criminals but everyone is the criminals but everyone is going to get caught up in going to get caught up in tears. it's going to be ugly tears. it's going to be ugly and awful. yes, i think that's and awful. yes, i think that's when public opinion starts to when public opinion starts to turn and you start to realize turn and you start to realize
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that while donald trump wanted that while donald trump wanted this issue for the campaign the this issue for the campaign the reality of it is is going to reality of it is is going to hurt farmers, it's gonna hurt hurt farmers, it's gonna hurt all kinds of businesses. all kinds of businesses. construction, you can go down construction, you can go down the list where immigrants are the list where immigrants are the list where immigrants are the list where immigrants are the people who are keeping the people who are keeping these businesses going. there's these businesses going. there's going to be a labor shortage going to be a labor shortage across every industry. for all across every industry. for all the belief or the talk that the belief or the talk that there's going to be paying to there's going to be paying to pay tay there's going to be paying to pay by everybody except pay tay there's going to be paying to pay by everybody except millionaires and billionaires, millionaires and billionaires, the price of everything is the price of everything is going to go up and you are not going to go up and you are not could have the employees are could have the employees are labor force to do the kinds of labor force to do the kinds of jobs to keep the economy and jobs to keep the economy and business going either. it will business going either. it will be interesting after you see be interesting after you see the pictures and it affects the pictures and it affects your own life. everybody who is your own life. everybody who is not a millionaire and not a millionaire and billionaire, where thing or billionaire, where this really stands going into a midterm
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standsdoine intoa midterm. of rallies outside the pictures of rallies outside the prisons, supporters of the january six prisoners are about to be released from these jails. how do republicans feel about this, erica? i was interested in the quick
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response from senator leader who dodged the issue, didn't really want to talk about it, said he hadn't see the detail on it. he among many other senators would have been cowering from the same people four years ago. cowering from the same people four years age-— four years ago. there is a slit. four years ago. there is a split. some _ four years ago. there is a split. some republicans. four years ago. there is a i split. some republicans are appalled. they see it as a miscarriage ofjustice, of supporting insurrection. some see it — supporting insurrection. some see it as — supporting insurrection. some see it as this is an end to the weaponization of the justice department who expended untold resources to scan photos of people. _ resources to scan photos of people, were you at the capitol. _ people, were you at the capitol, where you at that rally— capitol, where you at that rally who just ignored when america _ rally who just ignored when america was on fire for the in 2020 — america was on fire for the in 2020 there are people throwing water _ 2020 there are people throwing water bottles filled with concrete, assaulting federal infrastructure and state infrastructure and state infrastructure and state infrastructure and police officers. they are in riot gear and — officers. they are in riot gear and that— officers. they are in riot gear and that wasjust ignored. the number— and that wasjust ignored. the number of— and that wasjust ignored. the number of crimes that have been there _ number of crimes that have been there if— number of crimes that have been there. if you came to a rally when — there. if you came to a rally when you _ there. if you came to a rally when you believe there was a miscarriage of the election that— miscarriage of the election that we're going to hunt you
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down — that we're going to hunt you down and find something to charge _ down and find something to charge you with. some of the there — charge you with. some of the there is— charge you with. some of the there is a _ charge you with. some of the there is a split in the party that— there is a split in the party that way _ there is a split in the party that way. i wouldn't say anybody is really comfortable with it — anybody is really comfortable with it. although their families who are affected by the some particular people who mayjust — the some particular people who mayjust walked in the door, and — mayjust walked in the door, and the _ mayjust walked in the door, and the capitol police officers opened — and the capitol police officers opened the doors and people walked — opened the doors and people walked in. they are famous pictures— walked in. they are famous pictures of people walking through the velvet ropes in the rotunda, — through the velvet ropes in the rotunda, not being violent. even — rotunda, not being violent. even those people were charged some _ even those people were charged some people are very relieved by that — some people are very relieved b that. a, , some people are very relieved b that. , ~ , ., by that. mary anne, is it one rule for one _ by that. mary anne, is it one rule for one and _ by that. mary anne, is it one rule for one and another- by that. mary anne, is it one rule for one and another rule for others? given thatjoe biden yesterday issued sweeping pardons for his family, people who investigated the january sex committees. he's issued plenty of other pardons in recent weeks. maybe this was the inevitable conclusion of doing things like that? == doing things like that? -- january six- _ doing things like that? -- january six. pardons are broken after the trump era and biden
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responded to that anybody who is in jail who benefited responded to that anybody who is injail who benefited from responded to that anybody who is in jail who benefited from a pardon was charged, tried and convicted by a jury of their peers. and then sentence by judges who were appointed by donald trump. george bush, barack obama, this was... anyone who ended up injail that way did something wrong. a police officer last night who was at the capitol on january six and beaten, spent 1a hours try to protect everyone at the inauguration yesterday, got home and saw that they'd all been pardoned and he tweeted — thanks, america. last point, when you look at the senators today who actually publicly criticized it, which was the first criticism i've heard are all up for reelection in 2026. it was cassidy, tillis, susan collins and others because they beat law enforcement officers.
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quickly respond to the point that erica makes, white was there not the same focus on those who were rioting in seattle?— those who were rioting in seattle? ., , ., ,, seattle? that is a local issue. there is a _ seattle? that is a local issue. there is a difference betweenj there is a difference between doing that in seattle or portland and a group of people who came to the capital to overthrow an election and the government. that was clear what was going on that day. they were at aims to harm mike pence with gallows outside, looking for nancy pelosi to harm her as well, looking to interrupt and change the succession order. police stations or local government buildings? it doesn't matter if it's police stations or local government buildings? it stations or local government buildings?— buildings? it all matters but this was the _ buildings? it all matters but this was the capital of - buildings? it all matters but this was the capital of the i this was the capital of the united states of america. it was overturning a presidential election. they wanted to stop the certification. this is why a lot of them were sentenced to
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turn years was charged with sedition for that one of the most serious crimes against the country you can be charged with. ~ , ., , with. ok. we believe that they are. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news.
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i'v e i've been promising you a press conference with donald trump this evening. good job i feel the programme with other things because it's delayed. i am seeing a picture now from the roosevelt room of the podium. no one behind it at the moment. as and when donald trump appears, we will take you to it live. let's talk about one of the other issues that caught the other issues that caught the attention of quite a few people on social media in the last 2a hours.
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it came not from the new president — but from his self—proclaimed "first buddy". elon musk — was on stage at the capital one arena, warming up supporters before the arrival of president trump — when he thanked the crowd, he made a one armed gesture. it quickly drew scrutiny online, with many saying it was a roman salute — adopted by fascists and nazis. i was reading thejerusalem post, i didn't actually see it live. i was reading the jerusalem post to look at what was going on with the middle east cease fire and they had a headline saying that it was akin to eight nazi salute. they were quite alarmed by it by in jerusalem. were quite alarmed by it by in jerusalem-— were quite alarmed by it by in jerusalem. marianne, what did ou jerusalem. marianne, what did you make _ jerusalem. marianne, what did you make of — jerusalem. marianne, what did you make of a? _ jerusalem. marianne, what did you make of a? there's - jerusalem. marianne, what did you make of a? there's a - jerusalem. marianne, what did you make of a? there's a lot i jerusalem. marianne, what did| you make of a? there's a lot of ways to show your gratitude and that's not one of them. he did it twice. if you are defending elon musk for making that salute then i would question... you should do it as well. because if you think it is ok, most people don't, i think the one surprise here in disappointment that left a lot of people puzzled was the anti—defamation league came out and defended what he did saying maybe it was a mistake and all
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of that. i think what we're starting to see unfortunately is the slide into capitulation, justification, rationalization that you can't believe what you see with your own eyes. attica, there is no _ see with your own eyes. attica, there is no doubt _ see with your own eyes. attica, there is no doubt he _ see with your own eyes. attica, there is no doubt he is - see with your own eyes. attica, there is no doubt he is an - there is no doubt he is an enthusiastic supporter of the president. at times is pretty erratic. is that a risk for the trump administration? i think so. i'm trump administration? i think so- i'mjust— trump administration? i think so. i'm just waiting _ trump administration? i think so. i'm just waiting to - trump administration? i think so. i'm just waiting to see. i trump administration? i think so. i'mjust waiting to see. i l so. i'm just waiting to see. i read — so. i'm just waiting to see. i read the _ so. i'm just waiting to see. i read the autobiography, it's fascinating, i recommend everybody read it. i was thinking, was he going to do may— thinking, was he going to do may be _ thinking, was he going to do may be another chapterjust may be another chapter just exploring may be another chapterjust exploring this new bromance between musk and from? elon musk— between musk and from? elon musk was on the council and becoming close with president obama — becoming close with president obama. he worked closely, that was one — obama. he worked closely, that was one of the factors in obama making — was one of the factors in obama making a — was one of the factors in obama making a decision as a conservative that i applaud not to get — conservative that i applaud not to get funding to nasa any more because — to get funding to nasa any more because of what was happening in the _ because of what was happening in the private sector. musk is
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friendly— in the private sector. musk is friendly with democrats, now trump's, how long is that going to last? — trump's, how long is that going to last? do trump's, how long is that going to last? ,, to last? do you think he should be tiven to last? do you think he should be given an _ to last? do you think he should be given an office _ to last? do you think he should be given an office in _ to last? do you think he should be given an office in the - to last? do you think he should be given an office in the whitel be given an office in the white house in the west wing? filth. house in the west wing? oh, there is no — house in the west wing? oh, there is no way _ house in the west wing? oh, there is no way that's - house in the west wing? oh, there is no way that's good to happen — there is no way that's good to happen. the white house is so small~ — happen. the white house is so small. there's not enough space for the _ small. there's not enough space for the he — small. there's not enough space for the he was asked about that last night— for the he was asked about that last night he said no, elon is much — last night he said no, elon is much too _ last night he said no, elon is much too busy sending rockets into space. he much too busy sending rockets into space-— much too busy sending rockets into space. he seemed to put a lid on that _ into space. he seemed to put a lid on that if— into space. he seemed to put a lid on that if there is _ into space. he seemed to put a lid on that if there is any - lid on that if there is any suggestion it might happen. let me show you live pictures before we go up the roosevelt room. world news america is coming up for that we will focus on what donald trump has to say they are. for our uk viewers will bring you details of that print press conference. marianne, and i can't thank you for your time tonight. we have special programmes all the way through the week starting tomorrow at eight o'clock uk time. three o'clock eastern.
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join us for that. have a very good night. hello from the bbc sport centre. champions league leaders liverpool need just one point from their game with lille to guarantee a place in the knockout stage. leading to— one with just a few minutes ago. mo salah put liverpool ahead after half an hour but depite having a man sent off the french club equalised through jonathan david. three points would ensure the reds finish top of the table ahead of the next stage. aston villa's champions league fate will go down to the final league phase game as they were beaten in france by monaco after wilfried singo getting the only goal of the match. the defeat means unai emery�*s side will need to win the �*battle of britain' tie against celtic, to have any chance of finishing in the top eight which will take them automatically to last 16 of the competition. sheffield united are back on top of the championship. 2—1
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win away at swansea. millwall around the break of securing the first leak when in almost a month, thanks to the brilliant goal brilliant secured their first in almost a month after casper de norre's wonderfully worked goal. cardiff will remain a point above the draw in 20th. the 10—time champion novak djokovic is through to the semi—finals at the australian open after a thrilling, hard—fought victory over spain's carlos alcaraz. alcaraz, who beat djokovic in both his wimbledon final triumphs, took the first set 6—4 but from that point onwards, the serb took control, winning the next three in a match that lasted over 3 and half hours — and finished just before 1 in the morning. alcaraz, was third seed in melbourne but has never made it past the quarters. djokovic will face alexander zverev in the semis. i'v e i've experienced that a few times in my career. experience
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helps, understanding how to face adversity and draw the necessary strength and energy that you feed off in order to win a tennis match, to win the tournament. just please with the way i was able to play throughout the entire tournament, including tonight. against one of the best, two or three best players in the world in the last three or four years. just a great win, very proud. the women's champion aryna sabalenka is into the semis after a 19th win in a row at melbourne park. the world number one, who is looking to secure a hatrick of australian open titles, had to work really hard to battle past the 27th seed anastasia pavlyuchenkova. she won it in three sets, 6—2, 2—6, 6—3. i was all over the place, but i'm really glad that at some point i was able to put
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myself back together and i was able to, you know, like... i don't know, just get back to the match and like i was able to keep fighting, keep trying as i was able to turn around this match. it was a really difficult one. this year's six nations championship will mark 25 years since italyjoined the tournament and to reflect that milestone, the annual launch event took place at the colosseum in rome. the coaches and captains of the six nations posed with the trophy within the city's iconic landmark ahead of the tournament's first match on january 31st when france take on wales. ireland are back—to—back champions and are aiming to become the first nation to win the competition three years in a row. there is a lot of belief within the group that there is also the feeling that we can improve still at a time and if you look at the results from autumn, some good,
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some not so good, same with the performances, so it feels like there is a lot of room for growth and we want to chase that down together. one of the most importantjobs in formula one is race engineer — they speak directly to the drivers and their echanges are broadcast, so they're pretty visable. well, haas have appointed the first female race engineer in f1. german national laura muller has been with haas since 2022 and has been promoted from performance engineer. she'll work with new signing esteban ocon. haas' new head of strategy will also be a woman — carine cridelich has been recruited from red bull's racing bulls team. just a quick update on the champions league, it's currently benfica four how barcelona in the finishing stages of that for them all the results of the bbc website. that is all the sport now.
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good evening. fog may well be an issue again through the night and for tomorrow morning's rush, but it'll be all change by friday when storm eowyn arrives across our shores. it's the fifth named storm of the season. this may be a notch up — we're talking about gusts of wind up to 90 miles an hour, possibly more, so a very powerful storm. for the meantime, we've still got low pressure, but it's the light winds giving the fog. we may see this arm of rain push by towards the south—east, but this is what is coming in — rapidly developing across the atlantic as it rushes towards our shores thursday night into friday. that is storm eowyn. as for this evening, still some rain to come on our weather front straddling the country. showers to the north, but under the clearing skies, fog is an issue again, i think through the coming night. in the south, we've got the two weather fronts joining forces, so potentially some patchy rain, some hill fog around and there could be a touch of frost, but it's more likely where we keep clearer skies further north. and there, too, a cold frosty start, but also some pockets
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of dense fog around as well. it will be generally quite misty and damp, potentially, in southern areas, and it will take a long time to brighten up. the best chance of sunshine tomorrow is further north — again, just a few showers around western shores, but probably fewer than today. temperatures, though much on a par with today — fives and sixes for the majority, perhaps a little chillier further north once again. then, as we go through the night, our rain moves away. our next batch of cloud and rain starts to march in off the atlantic. ahead of that, i think we'll see a fairly widespread ground frost, temperatures in the air as well down towards freezing, one or two icy patches, one or two fog patches. but the winds are picking up, so a brisk wind on thursday and our first significant spell of rain for some time, potentially. obviously, we've got some rain to come tonight as well. some snow over the hills because it's bumping into that cold air, so temperatures are not going to be remarkable as we start to see this change to the atlantic influence. but come friday, this is barrelling in. this is our storm, storm eowyn. and it is going to give some very nasty conditions indeed. widespread gales causing significant disruption. it looks very powerful and it
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could escalate even further with gusts of wind in quite highly populated areas expected to get to 80, potentially 90 miles an hour in more exposed parts. as well as that, we've got the heavy rain and some hill snow as well. the warnings are on the website. do please stay up to date and tuned to the forecasts.
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tonight at ten — the prime minister tells the country the face of terrorism has changed. axel rudakubana murdered three girls in southport last summer — he was known to the government's anti—terror programme, but it was powerless to stop him. alice aguiar, elsie dot stancombe and bebe king were all killed because the system failed to protect them. this case is a sign britain now faces a new threat. terrorism has changed. we'll be examining how the new terror threat described by the prime minister is without belief or ideology. also on the programme... we're live in washington for donald trump's first full day
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back in the white house. organ plays the star-spangled banner. he began the day at a national prayer service, after signing off dozens of policy changes. including.... ..freeing from prison the ring leaders of the infamous attack on the capitol building 4 years ago, pardoned by the president, along with more than 1500 other rioters. i got the news from my lawyer when i was at the gym, and i walked outside and i screamed "freedom" at the top of my lungs and then gave a good native american war cry. i didn't think it was a good service, no, but thank you very much. and we'll tell you what prompted this

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