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a flurry trump has been signing a flurry of executive actions, the most recent to end diversity schemes. a 1a year was arrested on suspicion of murder after stabbing of a young boy in birmingham. the british government says a russian spy ship has been caught operating off the coast of the uk. and what word among all would you choose as your word of the year if you were a child? it is one with a lovely meaning. we will take you more later in the programme. hello i'm annita mcveigh. welcome to verified live. three hours of checking out the days big stories and the facts behind them. prince harry has settled his long—running legal battle against the publisher of the sun. the duke of sussex and the former labour party deputy
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leader, lord watson, who also settled his legal claim today, alleged that journalists at news group newspapers carried out unlawful information—gathering they gave a full apology for serious intrusions over the past 15 years it has also apologised for intruding into the private life of his late mother, princess diana. i'll correspond richard preston is outside the preston high court in central london. is not the full expose we thought the prince might have wanted. we thought the prince might have wanted. ~ ., ., wanted. we were on the hook for an eiuht wanted. we were on the hook for an eight week — wanted. we were on the hook for an eight week trial _ wanted. we were on the hook for an eight week trial during - an eight week trial during which of course evidence would have been presented in open court, witnesses may have been called to give evidence. prince harry has said all along that this was never about money for him. newsgroup newspapers has
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settled 1700 cases, some of them outside the court system, 1700 in total. prince harry said it wasn't about the money but the acknowledgement that there was wrongdoing and for there was wrongdoing and for the apology and forjustice to be seen to be done to those responsible for this. the call was this apology by ngn. ngn ran the news of the world, which are close down several years ago during the phone hacking scandal and the bosses that ngn had always denied that there was any wrongdoing at the sun newspaper. they always posited to the news of the world. the fact that there was this full and unequivocal apology gives prince harry that just says that he wanted to be seen to be done there were two parts to his claim. there was the accusation of illegal, intrusive activity but also of
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a widespread corporate cover—up including the deletion of millions of e—mails from newsgroup newspapers servers and e—mail systems. newsgroup newspapers servers and e—mailsystems. in newsgroup newspapers servers and e—mail systems. in their statement, ngn has continued to deny that that happens and they have said that one of the reasons that prince harry was happy with the settlement and the apology offered in court today was because it meant he didn't have to give evidence in court in relation to this corporate cover—up because ngn insists he would have lost that argument. insists he would have lost that argument-— argument. prince harry's long battle against _ argument. prince harry's long battle against the _ argument. prince harry's long battle against the press - battle against the press forward by a fury against the treatment of his late mother. i have been asked to read out a statement on behalf of the duke of sussex and lord watson. outside the court where his
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trial was about to begin, a statement from his barrister about an apology and a settlement from newsgroup newspapers. in settlement from newsgroup newspapers-_ settlement from newsgroup newsuaers. ., ., ., newspapers. in a monumental victory today _ newspapers. in a monumental victory today ngn _ newspapers. in a monumental victory today ngn have - newspapers. in a monumental. victory today ngn have admitted that the sun newspaper, the flagship title for rupert murdoch's media empire has indeed engaged in illegal practices. this represents a vindication for the hundreds of other claimants who were strong—armed into settling without being able to get to the truth of what was done to them. after endless resistance, denials and legal battles by ngn, including spending more than £1 billion in payouts and legal costs, as well as paying off those in the know, in order to prevent the full picture from coming out, news uk is finally held to account for its apology acknowledges wrongdoing by the held it says... apology acknowledges wrongdoing by the held to says... apology acknowledges wrongdoing by the held to account for illegal actions and its blatant finally held to account for its illegal actions and its blatant
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disregard for the law. this disregard for the law. this scandal began _ disregard for the law. this scandal began when - disregard for the law. this scandal began when it - scandal began _ disregard for the law. this scandal began when - disregard for the law. this scandal began when it - disregard for the law. this scandal began when it emerged that the phone of the murdered disregard for the law. this scandal began when it emerged that the phone of the murdered schoolgirl milly dowler had schoolgirl milly dowler had been hacked. one politician been hacked. one politician took newsgroup and also took newsgroup and also received a apology and for him received a apology and for him the long battle took its toll. the long battle took its toll. these unlawful practices were these unlawful practices were not isolated incidents. they not isolated incidents. they were — were — not isolated incidents. they were under industrial in scale not isolated incidents. they were under industrial in scale and essential to the modus and essential to the modus operandi of ngn as a whole. i operandi of ngn as a whole. i once — operandi of ngn as a whole. i once said _ once — operandi of ngn as a whole. i once said _ operandi of ngn as a whole. i once said that the big beasts operandi of ngn as a whole. i once said that the big beasts of the — once said that the big beasts of the tabloid jungle have no of the — once said that the big beasts of the tabloid jungle have no predators. i was wrong. they predators. i was wrong. they have — predators. i was wrong. they have prince harry. his bravery have — predators. i was wrong. they have prince harry. his bravery and _ have prince harry. his bravery and astonishing courage have and _ have prince harry. his bravery and astonishing courage have brought— and astonishing courage have brought accountability to a part — brought— and astonishing courage have brought accountability to a part — brought accountability to a part of _ brought accountability to a part of the major word that brought accountability to a part of _ brought accountability to a part of the major word that thought— part of the major word that thought it was untouchable. it thought— part of the major word that thought it was untouchable. it thought it was untouchable. [it is 14 thought it was untouchable. [it is 14 thought it was untouchable. is 14 years thought it was untouchable. is 14 years thought it was untouchable. it is 14 years that the news of thought it was untouchable. it is 14 years that the news of the world was closed but the the world was apology acknowledges wrongdoing by the sun. it says...
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is 14 years that the news of the worl to as is 14 years that the news of the worl to police, one to the he made to police, one to the prime minister to get involved but the other two was the commissioner of the metropolitan police to open a criminal investigation. the metropolitan police has responded and said, we are aware of the outcome of the civil proceedings it remains the case that there are no active police investigations into allegations of phone hacking or related matters. we await any correspondence from the parties in involved. which we will respond to in due course. a dossier will be sent to the met police but as it stands no criminal investigation. stands no criminal investiuation. . ~ , ., , investigation. thank you very much. and in five minutes, we'll be talking to evan harris, who has campaigned on behalf of victims of the press and who settled a claim against news group newspapers 3 years ago. us politics now and ahead of another busy day in the first week of donald trump's presidency lets cross to my colleague caitriona perry in washington.
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his second term has begun at a furious pace catriona — what can we expect today? fast and furious is what he promised. and that is what he has delivered on so far. he has signed a few dozen to executive orders and we expect more. many have focused on immigration and his border tsar told fox news this morning that deportations of undocumented migrants have already begun. he said that agents have already arrested 308 of what he described as serious criminals across the us. we don't have any further details on that. one of the things donald trump promise was mass deportations in their first days of his administration. the most recent executive order he signed was
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on diversity, equity and inclusion programmes, that basically means that anyone working in those roles in federal places of work will be put on administrative leave at five pn today with a view to them winding down theirjobs on a permanent basis. trump has ordered that private companies need to put an end to their diversity and inclusion of this is as well. we are expecting more executive orders later on including some focusing on public health measures. a big focus for governments around the world is on foreign policy and what donald trump is going to do. and what he will do in terms of diplomacy and economic policy. we can find out a little bit now about what may lie ahead. joining me now is javed ali, former senior director at us national security council under the first trump administration
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to start with that issue of immigration, we heard that he was declaring an emergency at the southern border. you used to work in the fbi and evolved in intelligence and counterintelligence, what does declaring a national emergency mean in terms of combating national security risks that trump sees at the border? mice trump sees at the border? nice to be with _ trump sees at the border? nice to be with you _ trump sees at the border? nice to be with you this _ trump sees at the border? nice to be with you this morning here — to be with you this morning here irr— to be with you this morning here in the us. the national emergency executive order is the opening salvo i would argue of this— the opening salvo i would argue of this much broader and more comprehensive effort that trump vowed _ comprehensive effort that trump vowed he — comprehensive effort that trump vowed he would institute upon taking — vowed he would institute upon taking office to harden the southern border of the united states— southern border of the united states and frame it as a national security issue and not 'ust national security issue and not just immigration. as you mentioned, there are a salvo of executive — mentioned, there are a salvo of executive orders that are touching on immigration —related activities, there are
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already— —related activities, there are already enforcement operations being _ already enforcement operations being carried out apparently, another— being carried out apparently, another executive order talked about — another executive order talked about one of these us commands which _ about one of these us commands which has — about one of these us commands which has been instructed to come — which has been instructed to come up _ which has been instructed to come up with an operational plan — come up with an operational plan to— come up with an operational plan to use the military to harden _ plan to use the military to harden the border or fortify it, harden the border or fortify it. which— harden the border or fortify it, which is different to what has — it, which is different to what has been _ it, which is different to what has been going on in the past few years. another executive order — few years. another executive order on— few years. another executive order on designating mexican drug — order on designating mexican drug cartels as foreign terrorist organisations. i could _ terrorist organisations. i couid go— terrorist organisations. i could go on. these are all parts _ could go on. these are all parts of— could go on. these are all parts of the steps that trump said — parts of the steps that trump said on— parts of the steps that trump said on the campaign trail he was — said on the campaign trail he was going to put in place and we are — was going to put in place and we are now seeing the roll—out of some — we are now seeing the roll—out of some of— we are now seeing the roll—out of some of them. we are now seeing the roll-out of some of them.— we are now seeing the roll-out of some of them. you mentioned this new role _ of some of them. you mentioned this new role for _ of some of them. you mentioned this new role for the _ of some of them. you mentioned this new role for the us - this new role for the us military leave, that is quite a shift in policy and terms of having american troops active on american soil, how do you see that working? brute on american soil, how do you see that working?— on american soil, how do you see that working? we have seen this in the _ see that working? we have seen this in the past, _ see that working? we have seen this in the past, president - this in the past, president trunru _ this in the past, president trunru in _ this in the past, president trump in the beginning of his
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first— trump in the beginning of his first administration, i may have — first administration, i may have the _ first administration, i may have the timelines off, from 2017-2018, did send have the timelines off, from 2017—2018, did send troops to the southern border, more for helping — the southern border, more for helping construct portions of the border world. helping construct portions of the borderworld. but helping construct portions of the border world. but it sounds like the — the border world. but it sounds like the us northern command i mentioned earlier is being instructed to come up with a plan — instructed to come up with a plan that— instructed to come up with a plan that goes beyond what the troops — plan that goes beyond what the troops who were sent to the southern _ troops who were sent to the southern border and a president trunru's — southern border and a president trump's first term will now do going — trump's first term will now do going into this next term. there _ going into this next term. there will probably be efforts directed at building up or scaling _ directed at building up or scaling up on the border, fortifications prevented people from _ fortifications prevented people from coming across the border. 0ther— from coming across the border. other types of operations that may deal with collecting intelligence or surveillance. the — intelligence or surveillance. the military has enormous capabilities for that. not necessarily on americans but
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trying — necessarily on americans but trying to— necessarily on americans but trying to monitor these cross—border flows. trying to monitor these cross—borderflows. it trying to monitor these cross—border flows. it will be interesting to see how that plays — interesting to see how that plays out. and where will these troops — plays out. and where will these troops be — plays out. and where will these troops be coming from? will they— troops be coming from? will they be _ troops be coming from? will they be active duty troops in they be active duty troops in the us— they be active duty troops in the us or— they be active duty troops in the us or somewhere abroad who will be _ the us or somewhere abroad who will be pulled into this mission? will national guard troops — mission? will national guard troops stationed in different states — troops stationed in different states across the country be federalised under the president powers as commander—in—chief? these _ powers as commander—in—chief? these are — powers as commander—in—chief? these are things that aren't clear— these are things that aren't clear but— these are things that aren't clear but i have to imagine are being — clear but i have to imagine are being considered as this plan is coming together. as being considered as this plan is coming together.— is coming together. as you mentioned _ is coming together. as you mentioned earlier, - is coming together. as you | mentioned earlier, another is coming together. as you i mentioned earlier, another of these executive orders designates these drug cartels as terrorist organisations, given everything you have mentioned and how the us pursues terrorist organisations elsewhere, are we facing into a situation where there may be active exchange of fire or situations like that taking place along the border? this is
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another unique _ place along the border? this is another unique policy - place along the border? this is another unique policy tool - place along the border? this is another unique policy tool that| another unique policy tool that the us— another unique policy tool that the us has had for decades. under— the us has had for decades. under us law, the secretary of state _ under us law, the secretary of state can— under us law, the secretary of state can initiate a process to designate foreign—based organisations as foreign terrorist organisations. there is a three _ terrorist organisations. there is a three part criteria of a group _ is a three part criteria of a group that has to meet these conditions and then this designation package that the secretary of state and his team put together has to flow through the executive branch and through congress in order to get— and through congress in order to get approved. once approved it unlocks— to get approved. once approved it unlocks some other instruments on the financial side, — instruments on the financial side, on _ instruments on the financial side, on the legal side and also — side, on the legal side and also some intelligence capabilities. it is not an authorisation to use military force — authorisation to use military force. that is a separate legal issue — force. that is a separate legal issue altogether. but if the
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president is trying to put more pressure — president is trying to put more pressure on the cartels in mexico _ pressure on the cartels in mexico and perhaps even the mexican _ mexico and perhaps even the mexican government in addition to things — mexican government in addition to things we have talked about, this is— to things we have talked about, this is another thing that is public— this is another thing that is public going to take place and under— public going to take place and under this executive order that there _ under this executive order that there is— under this executive order that there is a — under this executive order that there is a two—week timeframe for some — there is a two—week timeframe for some of these designations to begin — for some of these designations to begin or to get to congress. it to begin or to get to congress. it will— to begin or to get to congress. it will be — to begin or to get to congress. it will be interesting to see how— it will be interesting to see how many of these cartels are designated and how quickly the implementation of these actions against — implementation of these actions against the cartels will happen. against the cartels will happen-— against the cartels will hauen. ., ., , ., against the cartels will hauen. ., , ., ., happen. how do you see all of this impacting _ happen. how do you see all of this impacting us- _ happen. how do you see all of this impacting us- mexican i this impacting us— mexican relations? you mention putting pressure on the mexican government, we have also seen there remain a mexico policy put back in place. there are direct impacts on mexico and the people of mexico many of the people of mexico many of the measures that trump has taken. i have to imagine this has been taken very seriously by the mexican government. fine by the mexican government. one of secretary _
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by the mexican government. one of secretary rubio's major issues _ of secretary rubio's major issues is _ of secretary rubio's major issues is to communicate to the mexican — issues is to communicate to the mexican government, here is the president's intent, here are the steps, what changes will the steps, what changes will the mexican government take on their— the mexican government take on their own — the mexican government take on their own to withstand the pressure that the us appears to be trying — pressure that the us appears to be trying to apply? will it change _ be trying to apply? will it change any of the activities or conditions that are already affecting us— mexican relations, unclear. but when it comes— relations, unclear. but when it comes to — relations, unclear. but when it comes to the flow of drugs and they— comes to the flow of drugs and they are — comes to the flow of drugs and they are to states and the activity _ they are to states and the activity of the cartels, that seems _ activity of the cartels, that seems to be one issue that trunrp, _ seems to be one issue that trump, and he has talked about this for— trump, and he has talked about this for a — trump, and he has talked about this for a long time, he is intent _ this for a long time, he is intent on _ this for a long time, he is intent on forcing the mexican government to change the status quo and — government to change the status quo and if— government to change the status quo and if the mexican government won't do on his own, then— government won't do on his own, then president trump has all these — then president trump has all these measures that will be implemented to attempt to have the us— implemented to attempt to have the us squeeze the cartels and some _ the us squeeze the cartels and some of— the us squeeze the cartels and some of their activities as much _ some of their activities as much as—
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some of their activities as much as they can.- much as they can. senior director _ much as they can. senior director -- _ much as they can. senior director -- former- much as they can. senior director -- former senior director —— former senior director, thank you forjoining us here. the other issue that president trumper said he will review is the deal with the us and canada. we are expecting some executive orders from him later today on that later today. we will keep you up—to—date on that. to stay with us. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.
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let's return to the news that prince harry has settled his legal battle with ngn over
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allegations of illegal information gathering. let's speak to evan harris now — he is the former director of hacked off and consultant for the claimants legal team. thank you forjoining us. of course, lord watson, former deputy leader of the labour party here in the uk also settle his claim today. he asked a number of questions in that statement outside the court afterwards, including, what does this case mean, why is it so important? what are your thoughts on those questions today in light of what has happened? he questions today in light of what has happened? he is quite rirht what has happened? he is quite ri . ht this what has happened? he is quite right this is _ what has happened? he is quite right this is a — what has happened? he is quite right this is a very _ what has happened? he is quite right this is a very important - right this is a very important development. for14 right this is a very important development. for 14 years, right this is a very important development. for14 years, news corp owned by rupert murdoch have denied that there was ever any unlawful activity whatsoever the sun newspaper. they have settled 1300 claims of people who say this without allowing them to get to court and without making that admission and for the first
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time, notjust on the steps of court but inside court, it's foot clear they were forced to make that admission to avoid a public trial of these allegation. they can't continue to sue on something they have admitted so it's a victory for prince harry. prince harry gets revenge attacks on him from the newspapers for standing up to them but has been prepared to do this to help it come out, notjust for him, but do this to help it come out, not just for him, but for the others who have brought claims and were targeted. court documents have shown that there were 35,000 payments across the sun and the news of the world to investigators and over 100 of them used by the sun and the news of the world over at least 16 years that this claim has been going on.— 16 years that this claim has been going on. 16 years that this claim has been rroin on. ~ . ., , ., been going on. whence harry and lord watson _ been going on. whence harry and lord watson were _ been going on. whence harry and lord watson were the _ been going on. whence harry and lord watson were the last - been going on. whence harry and lord watson were the last men i lord watson were the last men standing in this case. what
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insight can you give us into the decision to settle? prince harry said he was there for people who couldn't go to court. some sections of the media saying this is climb—down from him when he promised a crusade against sections of the tabloid press.— tabloid press. they are the last two in _ tabloid press. they are the last two in this _ tabloid press. they are the last two in this way - tabloid press. they are the | last two in this way because there are a series of waves. the litigation has not necessarily ended. you can only sue in this country again something that is denied or not admitted, that is the way the law works. if someone admit something you don't have a cause of action. once they have admitted what he called for, it is them settling, not prince harry. he has conceded nothing. they are paying him in damages and his legalfees. i am not at liberty to say what the total cost of that is but i see the bbc have said that it is an eight figure sum, upwards of 10 million. that is not prince
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harry backing down, it is not him admitting anything, it is ngn as saying that the sun engaged in criminal activity. let's be clear about that. that is what criminal activity means, blagging of medical records, phone hacking, listening to voice messages, getting financial records. gross intrusions of peoples's privacy. gross intrusions of peoples's riva . , , privacy. there is is the distinction _ privacy. there is is the distinction between i privacy. there is is the - distinction between unlawful and illegal, illegal is expressly forbidden by statute. ijust expressly forbidden by statute. i just want to clarify. you expressly forbidden by statute. ijust want to clarify. you are correct but our pleaded case in paragraph six of the private investigator annex you can see that we provide a criminal
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offence behind each one of these unlawful civil torts. they represent criminal offences. the defence made clear they were serious allegations and we agree and so we have to be careful in what we have to be careful in what we say. they denied until now orland them and now they have admitted them. i orland them and now they have admitted them.— admitted them. i want to draw our admitted them. i want to draw your attention _ admitted them. i want to draw your attention to _ admitted them. i want to draw your attention to a _ admitted them. i want to draw your attention to a couple - admitted them. i want to draw your attention to a couple of. your attention to a couple of lines from the statement from ngn, it says many allegations remain unproven, it has apologised for a number of matters, it says after more than a decade after litigation and 14 years after the news of the world close down, today's settlement draws a line under the pass and brings an end to the pass and brings an end to the litigation. do you think there will ever be any possibility of individual culpability in their somewhat more would you like to see the police and parliament do? 17 police and parliament do? good question. they wish. they are desperate to draw a line under it but that is not how
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the rule of law works in this country. there are allegations, denied and as yet unproven because they haven't been the subject of court determinations, that, because they denied under oath that there was unlawful activity at there was unlawful activity at the sun, in the criminal courts, in this high court at the leveson inquiry and in front of parliamentary committees, this was denied. either that was an unfortunate error or they knowingly denied something they knew to be true. the latter is called perjury when it is done under oath at the leveson inquiry and in court and it is contempt in parliament where it is done at a select committee. if the rule of law is to mean anything, the police and parliament have to investigate those allegations. they are allegations. until thatis they are allegations. until that is done there can be no line drawn under this and make no mistake, prince harry and tom watson and the others are not going anywhere in terms of
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pursuing a proper investigation of these matters. newsgroup deserved to put their offence and diverse a investigation and hearing not a presumption but that investigation may must take place. that investigation may must take place-— take place. just a brief response _ take place. just a brief response to _ take place. just a brief response to this - take place. just a brief response to this final i take place. just a brief - response to this final question if you word, ngn and says there were strong controls now and in place to ensure that this can't happen now. do you take any reassurance from that? i don't believe it- _ reassurance from that? i don't believe it. there _ reassurance from that? i don't believe it. there is _ reassurance from that? i don't believe it. there is no - believe it. there is no independent regulation of the press and if they were confident in that they would not have blocked the second stage of the leveson inquiry. until there is an independent press regulator and not a self regulatory poodle, which there is at the moment, no—one can have any faith that these practices have been ended at certain titles, especially in the tabloid press.- certain titles, especially in the tabloid press. thank you very much — the tabloid press. thank you very much for _ the tabloid press. thank you very much for your - the tabloid press. thank you very much for your time - the tabloid press. thank you i very much for your time today. more to come, do stay with us
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here on verified live on bbc news. hello. after a run of quieter weather over the last few weeks, things are about to get quite stormy across the uk. the met office has already issued a number of amber warnings across parts of northern ireland, southern scotland, northern england and north wales. we could see some damaging gusts in excess of 90 miles an hour for one or two. storm eowyn is still out in the western atlantic right now. it's set to develop into that potent storm, but before it arrives, this will bring some wet and windy weather tomorrow before we see a quieter spell after some rain through today. now that rain is clearing away from eastern areas. clearer skies tonight. relatively light winds. it's a recipe for some mist and fog, particularly across some eastern parts of southern england, and some frost as well, just about anywhere. lowest temperatures minus five minus six to the grampians
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as we go into thursday morning. so if you have plans for the outdoors, morning could be best, although watch out for some fog first of all, east anglia and the south east. already rain into northern ireland. batch of rain and strengthening winds will push into western scotland, wales, western parts of england during the morning, pushing its way eastwards into the afternoon. gales likely towards the west and southwest. things will brighten up here later in the day. should stay dry and bright, though, towards the far northeast of scotland. feeling cooler out there, especially with those stronger winds. but here's storm eowyn coming towards us. a beast of a storm as it pushes in towards friday. strongest the winds just on the southern flank of this low pressure. so this is where the met office have those amber warnings. it's worth noting that there will be various stages. worst of the winds in northern ireland in the morning. northern england, north wales, middle part of the day. southern scotland through the afternoon we could see winds, hills and coasts, 80—90 miles an hour, maybe a little bit more. that will cause damage and destruction. but even away from that widespread gales for many rain sweeping across southern areas quite quickly during
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the morning to sunshine for the afternoon. a few showers around, but the rain will linger across parts of northern ireland, scotland and with some snow falling across the scottish mountains. it is going to be a day in which the temperatures are fairly academic, higher than we've seen through recent days, but with those strong winds it does mean it will feel much cooler than that. into saturday, the strong winds will remain across the north of scotland after quite a wild night. still some snow in the mountains here. not a bad day for many on saturday though. brighter weather with a few showers dotted here and there, but then some increased shower activity out in the west later in the day. stay tuned to the forecast.
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this is bbc news. the headlines: prince harry settles hislong—running legal battle with news group newspapers over allegations of unlawful information gathering. donald trump continues with his flurry of executive actions. the most recent, to end diversity schemes in the federal agencies. the british government says a russian spy ship has been caught operating off the coast of the uk. at least ten palestinians have been killed by israeli forces injenin. security forces say they begin a major military operation in the occupied west bank. it's time for the sport now. let's get the latest.

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