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the mid air collision happened on the approach to our correspondent, carl nasman. still a long to go with this recovery still a long to go with this recove operation. t this recovery operation. there is. this recovery operation. there is- those _ this recovery operation. there is. those teams _ this recovery operation. there is. those teams were - to l gghose teams were ableio back to work today after get back to work today after the sun came out. it's warming up the sun came out. it's warming up a bit which is good news. they have been battling some tough conditions, notjust the darkness but the cold water icy conditions. this is an ll.l ll. llllllll "5sz l ll. where l'll ll llllllll 1l"ll 'l ll where its areafflhere'ita lha'h�*m “ll-high but area�*s-here�*s l“a"an nhc“ but makes the helps but makes the water really murky. a crucial step, those black boxes regovering those black boxes flight recorders which lll flilee fftfi’rllrl elftltl’ "" ” data lhll flilee fftfi’rllrl elftltl’ "" ” data about lhll flilee fftfiwrllrl elftltl’ "w w data about the plane, lmerican airline lnflerican airline planes. that american airline planes, like its altitude and the crockpot voice recorders which will have audio
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recordings of what the pilot recordings ofwhatthe pilat co—pilot were recordings ofwhetthe pilot co—pilot were saying. and co—pilot were saying. they could clues to the could provide clues to the investigation. we are also hearing that could be hearing that they could be plans to try to and lans. te try te saillaelaeclll l l out the eans. te try te saillqeleclll l l out the fuselage of the take odt the fiaset-sge of the and also the helicopter piane’and’atso the helicopter the piane’and’atso the heticopter the river to from the river to allow investigators to take a closer look and search for in look and search for clues in. of the terms of the actual wreckage itself. presumably also those teams that are now recovery teams that are now working out in the river working out in the cold river also �*f�*f�*jgf- for remains of about 3077 remains of about 301” so the ternairtsof. aboot 3:0 or so who are people who are still unaccounted for. we know l'rllccel'rlted fer. �*l�*le leol-lll , lll bodies l'rllccel'rlted fer. �*l�*le leol-lll . ll bodies were leecceeeted fer. �*lle leel-lll . ll bodies were recovered several bodies were recovered during those efforts yesterday. what do you think the key lines zemerging emerging in this are emerging in this investigation so far? it's to investigation so far? it's _ to hear- investigation so far? it's _ to hear this | interesting to hear this now on renewed focus right now on altitude of that we 5 we �* president helicopter. we saw president trump speaking about that on igump speakingabout that on media saying it was
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social media saying it was simple to him anyway that it was flying high. if you go was flying too high. if you go around washington, dc this is somewhere where it's not sammhere where it's not to see these of oncommon to see these sorts of helicopters military helicopters flying overhead. we have seen the helicopter president's helicopter going right over neighbourhoods. they fly low, about 200 that's very qeéyiiigim very high and 7 very high and that 7 very high and that is llt llfl hiah'lll tth is. to avoid llt llfl hiah'lll tth ie to avoid these spegcrificallyto avoid these of close or sorts of close calls or other aircraft. is just looking for websites twice is that i —— f= �* that's the �*that�*s the case would 77 that bea thet certainly somlthing these federal are going be frat l l l frat this 77 77 7 looking at as this investigation they also be 77 ' zigzag lookihgfiim ' also be looking at the will also be looking at the starting issues you mentioned. 7 .one that there was one person in that the traffic control �* was 7 7 aging" 7 77 doing the 7 7 7doi7ng7th7ejob 77 7 7 54.5.3. job of7 essentially doing the job of two people and directing the
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27:2 of the 77 of the commercial traffic of the commercial debt —— that land here also —— jets that land here but also directing the traffic of those it is not helicelterlth il'nlt ”"l a heliceltersth il'nlt a red this is considered a red flag, this is something that is satisfactory federal regulations but —= it's not ideal. they 77 béliiolihg" 7 be looking at that and will be looking at that and are the close calls we've these are the close calls we've at reagan airport seen at reagan national airport in the past. in 2a hours th|s 7 7 th|scoll|s|on 7 7 7777777777th77is7co7ll7is7i77t7>na7777777777 7 7 7 7 77 7thié7c§iii§il>r7ra pan; 7 7 llflrl lll elllililfi l lllfil to llllfl ee'l elll'l'lh l lllfil to divert as llllfl eeil elll'l'lh l lllfil to divert as there was a had to divert as there was a helicopter to to path. thank you for hl il ln. lliltilfi’llplfl around reagan airport. i wonder could you describe first of all just first of alljust how challenging is they say space airport? around reagan natianal alrpart? around reagan natianal alrpart? a it's 7:2:
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of our fate —— few airports i!!! one of our fate —— few airnarts , up more one of our fate —— few aifdqfts— ' up more ft; , t° one of our fate —— few airnorts , to up more jg’:; , to one of our fate —— few airnorts . to up airport 2:2 , to one of our fate —— few airnorts . to up airport thatl; , to gs; ts; thil airpert that thl ' ' m ' '* handle so 5a ta thia airaart that thl ' ' m ' '* handle so it's busy airport can handle so it's busy the time. all business all the time. all the business i day from 6am —= it's as as can to 10pm it's as busy as it can possibly with that in mind, possibly be.—with—that in mind. �*than busy possibly be.—with—that in mind. �* than busy airspace other than busy airspace are short. runways are relatively short. this was a which this was a smaller plane which can handle a short runway. i was slightly -h and it a challenge land on these short runways. ta ta n’d'an’ thla-l ahart fa nwaya. water on ta lan'd'an’ thla-l ahart fonwaya. water on three sides tll'l il iiithlf ll llfllll'lllw” w w" 7 l "7 this tllfl il “ell? ll tlfllll'lllw” w w" 7 l "7 this airport. tllfl il �*llllf ll tlfllll'lllw” w w" 7 l "7 this airport. the tillfl il �*llllf ll tlfllll'lllw” w w" 7 l "7 this airport. the thing i less than water i i less than water is? pilots like less than water is fire. short runways, lots of traffic, the mix of wing lll l yew i very thelrle aircraft is very unusual. there are the are military bases around the airport. and marine air
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airport. andrews and marine air we have station. we have law enforcement in the washington and security l and security in l and security in the l area. from the information you then, from the information you far, heard about the the queries about the altitude the helicopter was flying at, from queries about the altitude the hel informationlying at, from queries about the altitude the hel information lying have, om queries about the altitude the hel informationlying have, do the—information you have. do detect wrong you detect anything wrong with i you detect anything wrong with that approach? i was looking at that approach? i was looking at that this morning. _ that approach? i was looking at that this morning. i _ that approach? i was looking at that this morning. i became - that this morning. i became aware it was a i was aware it was a potential. i was to find the dam —— trying to find the dam —— that shows these lllililll lll! lllll lllillll�*”"”""""" down low lllililll lll lllll lllllll"”"”""""" down low as lllililll lll lllll lllllll""’"”""""" down low as you are close e -—= the location i the location they were the to the location they were the maximum altitude is feet. ou are “ust a few miles if you areiust a few miles to south it if you arejust a few miles to south it would be 300 north to south it would be 300 feet. from what i understand the helicopter was 300 or ”�*iaindthatflfi ii �* and that is �*and that is a ”�*iaindthatiisia 5.551... higher and that is a problem. there is also the issue of the �* of the helicopter. tracker of the helicopter. is a corridor you are
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there is a corridor you are supposed to stay in. i'm trying to determine whether were to determine whether they were the edge of that at the edge of that corridor and moving towards the airport. so a higher elevation towards airport puts you in direct with this aeroplane confliot'with this aeropla ne the runway confliot'with this aeropla he the runway is approaching the runway which is turning descending to land ru nway runway 33. l on runway 33. when you are talkin: on runway 33. when you are talking to — on runway 33. when you are talking to a _ on runway 33. when you are talking to a producer- on runway 33. when you are talking to a producer earlier| talking to a producer earlier the interview you are before the interview you are saying that and saying that commercial and military operate military planes will operate on the same frequency but that helicopter; are military helicopters are operating on a different frequency. so the frequency. so looking at the communication that was between the air conltrol control tower conltrol tower and the traffic control tower and the plane and the what plane and the helicopter, what thoughts you have on that %_ path. our country has 3008 traffic they traffic controllers and they are supposed to have 30 at this are luaaosed to have 5!) attbiee .. 7.7 -. -. . .. �*airport but have particular airport but we have 20. they 33% short. it is 20. they are 33% short. it is common is light or
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as low to combine starting as low to combine frequencies. in this case the busy enough we airport is busy enough that we had separate frequencies for helicopters. aeroplanes and helicopters. although the communication was between i between the established between the and the tower . ztobe: . . . to be adequate, the he will helicopter says he will him so nothing = -: �* there. what 7 �* there. what is l �*there. what is lost 7 �*there. what is lost as l awareness. they the situational awareness..they being a different hear l hear that our to l hear that our to this hear that our to this other ear that our to this other aircraft our talking to this other aircraft or answers that or the answers from that helicopter. so a lack of awareness. i don't situational awareness. i don't think they plane ever so helicopter. the helicopter reports saying they but reports saying they plane but there are many other targets at = -=: ll thilcholuldll l l l thilcholuld ble l l l l thilcholuld be 5 l l l thilcholuld lb; alclslell ll the end this could be a case where helicopter had the target. pilot wrong target. helicopter pilot fly the path of would not fly into the path of enabling if was looking at enabliugaf he ..- ”we;
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anwar saysclaims that hostages been held in their have been held in their premises even if a very serious and have vacated a very serious and have called for independent into claims of investigations into claims of -, ~ ,. ,,- and �*un palelsltinian armed premises by palestinian armed groups including hamas. let's speak to our correspondent wyre davies, who is in jerusalem. begin by telling us more about the conversation that happened between emily and the prime in the uk and what she minister in the uk and what she had to say about where was had to say about where she was held. this was a statement released — held. this was a statement released by _ held. this was a statement released by emily - herl released by emily and her mother along with several pictures which show emily speaking on the phone so the uk prime minister sir keir l in prime minister sir keir in call he starmer. in that call he invited her to the uk once she had recovered from her lengthy hadfiéecovered from herdengthy she gave 2325?“er from herdengthy she gave him details l l l�* her captivityand and as you say she said llllvjlaslhllij l stthqlij a...” ”and; rlerlqsriie was held for some time at a she was held for some time at a un facility to unrwa.
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un facility belonging to unrwa. that is the un agency responsible for many things, the gals refugees, the gals and refugees, palestinian refugees, healthcare clinics, food centres and so ce and s and so ctand unrwa ce and unrwa has forth. the un and unrwa has several buildings across gaza, many of which were by manyofwhi-shwere used by who had been bombed families who had been bombed out of their houses but also obviously we know by hamas under the palestinian militant groups. so in a sense hamas were llll of un were using some of these un not be a surprise building may not be a surprise but it's interesting to hear that some of the hostages say they were held in un buildings. she said did receive treatment from any treatment from outside bodies she was in bodies while she was in and was the main captivity and that was the main point of the she is point of the statement. she is now for remaining now calling for the remaining 80 or so about half 80 or so hostages, about half of whom are thought to be —: = -: to be givenl to alive, to be given access to treatment and by the red
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treatment and access by the red and other cross and other agenrlas. ,- we ,- -, many of cross and other agenrlas. ,- we ,- w many of those people because many. ofthose people qu|te because manyofthose people quite poorly and lrl eflllll’? llitl ellflfi? ll- even injured. in response mllill lllflmiurlllfl rlllllll these claims from emily, the to these olaims from emily. the has said that to these olaims from emily, the has said that it to these olaims from emily. the has said that it is un has said that it is to if true that disturbed to hear if true that the captives were in un ”l l? l- ..t-hey they would l= investigate further. we are also hearing _ investigate further. we are also hearing reports- investigate further. we are also hearing reports that l investigate further. we are i also hearing reports that the crossing might be opened rafah crossing might—be opened what can tell us tomorrow: what can you tell us that? tomorrowwtratca '-r — r that? . ., , about that? rafah is the crossing _ about that? rafah is the crossing between - about that? rafah is the crossing between gaza l about that? rafah is the i crossing between gaza and about that? rafah is the crossi south veen gaza and f; about that? rafah is the crossi south 0an gaza and 5l about that? rafah is the crossi south of gaza. a and 5l about that? rafah is the crossi south of gaza. previous to the south of gaza. previous to the south of gaza. previous to the south of gaza. previous to the it was frequently to the war it was frequently for people and goods used for people and goods that has been closed crossing. that has be'ln'closed some the opening of crossing. that has be'ln'closed some reopening aening of crossing. that has be'ln'closed some reopening of1ing of crossing. that has be'ln'closed some reopening of the of the partial reopening of the crossing is really important crossing is a really important part of the ceasefire -...s°. lll lsoallong ll l lso along with ll l ll l so along with the agreement. so along with the hostages and prisoners being released tomorrow and saturday
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are “cliff are now getting another we are nowgetting another which shows that development which shows that pressures the despite certain pressures the ceasefire is holding ceasefire agreement is holding if and when the rafah and if and when the rafah crossing does partially reopen will be partially manned by it will be partially manned by eu personnel, they an eu personnel, they are an integral �*the border integral part of the border operation and we are z— lquite a number, at hearing quite a number, at least 50 palestinian —— wounded ”"”"””.’.n'. "”’w’.u’.,'..uow’;a” of gaza into e- -t under for trelaltment supervision for treatment so that partial overseas. so that partial of the rafah a llll- lalklely llllqlklelylfiérlll l lalklelprartlll sag. l l lsfl lalklelprartl sag. l l lsthiile .lelpralrtl sag. l ll l lgthitle lcleéééfirél stage = -: those three l those three hostalges who and those three hostages who are due to j? on are due to be freed on saturday, people might be familiar with the of yad and 3+. yes. mastafthe - releases- and 3+. yes. mastafthe - releasesfi- and 3+. yes. mastafthe - releases so far. and 3+. yes. mas-g - releases so far have hostage releases so far have been prettyjoyous events z .ll= the release of palestinian have the release of palestinian prisoners from jails. prisoners from israeli jails. people -, -; to the arms
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prisoners from israeli jails. pe theirigfg; -; to the arms prisoners from israeli jails. pe their loved z to the arms prisoners from israeli jails. pe their loved ones. to the arms prisoners from israeli jails. pe their loved ones. but he arms prisoners from israeli jails. pe their loved ones. but it arms of their loved ones. but it be very difficult for will be very difficult for israelis tomorrow because bibas is the father of yarden bibas is the father of the logpgest who was 77 -:= ten months land there —= l another sibling and his and it's widelyl believed the other members no longer family members are no longer live. so it's going to be very sombre moment for many israelis tomorrow when bibas is sombre moment for many israelis tomorroi from n bibas is sombre moment for many israelis tomorroi from gaza bibas is sombre moment for many israelis tomorroi from gaza into bibas is released from gaza into the arms of family d a time a lot tne sime a lot l�* the price a lot l�* the price mam;r it l.�* rlfllltilan lll llll llll’el ’ "' have rgfllnglth lll llll’fi�*l’n' ' " have l, ~ flmilill'hlll plil: earlier today on bbc very much. earlier today on bbc news reported on the release of names of three thl anll lt thlll eli-”ll" , ~ , , , , hostages who are due to israeli hostages who are due to be freed tomorrow and at one point in we point in our coverage we mistakenly called the hostages and we would like to that error. around
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for their loved ones continues. our eastern europe correspondent sarah rainsford has been to meet one woman whose parents are amongst an estimated 60 thousand missing soldiers and civilians, who have disappeared following the occupation ..a message of reassurance and love. invasion of their country.
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but in september 2023, oleh and tetiana were detained by then russian soldiers dumped her mother at a hospital in a coma. she died without ever coming round. they did to her and why. my mum was 51. she loved life. then everything was cut short. she was such a radiant person. if, god forbid, something happens to my dad,
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a furious row is expected. let's cross live now to berlin and speak that debate was supposed to start earlier today and there was a suggestion it had not friedrich didn't m haveeneughrsgppertr.’ bring us. to date with what's up to date with what's �* ferocious debate and incredibly ferocious debate and it still going on and on a minute “l vote. in the minute they will vote. in the half—hour we might know n5gst halffhour we mightier—row result. n5gst hllthouer mightier—row result. the reason n5gst hélf’hqur�*fié mightier—row result. the reason why was the result. the reason why was sold and why ll!!! flrllilll lnd whtlmde— ~ ~ , ~ — the debate in order to �* with party members other �*with party members other �*witt to rty members other �*witt to try members lang lter ertill llrtr'g' lan l" .... lll" l b... sang lter ertill tlrtr'g'lnlt ll l ll llll ll l ll out an agreement sang lter ertill tlrtr'g'lnlt ll l ll l ll l ll out an agreement is the controversy is on bllllll the lqulfqvqflylel—gn— ~ ~ .. , things, when helelee the lehtrevereyrierenr ~ ~ .. , things, when is the content 3— this bil if this bill which proposes of this bill which proposes some pretty dramatic meas'e'res.
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say some pretty dramatic meae'a'ree. say some some pretty dramatic meaedree. say some of critics would say some of these are not in line with german constitution such as flihe’hoiic’efi w 7 y’ihe’holic’efié'r; w 7 flihe’holic’efiéry strong givmggthe police very strong including arresting powers including arresting people which judges or prosecutors elle'l “lr”; u§u§“ll§§ls g: prosecutors in germany := .z the other 7 the other source 7 the other source of would do. the other source of controversy is of course that have put this bill forward knowingly put this bill forward with that the far with awareness that the far right afp going to support right afp is going to support it. that is a in it. that is a first in german history and it's being by left—wihg described by left—wing opponents and green as democracy. dmocracy. the undermining democracy. the reason why that is so important is because the far right has never worked together with the mainstream party here memtrcem elfl�*l hlll in. " ' with melfl=tr=em elfl?�* hlfl in " ' with before. all melfl=tr=em sift? hlfl in " ' with before. all the germany withbefore. all the parties are —ee§ of us want to j 77 of us want to work 5 77 of us want to work with 77 far rightand far right and this is just mam us ettin . business t in ettin business done t in to in business done t in to work usiness done t in to work usin move ne to work lmi�* “l": *“ lll“? lfii�*mlll 7 7 to work together lmi�* “l": *“ lll? lfii�*m�*ll 7 7 to work together to forwardte mock together te key problems. what the solve key problems. what the far right to is their problem. the is is that once ==
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you open the door to cooperating with the far right alternative fur deutschland is stronger in which is getting stronger in the polls over time, it's the polls overtime. it's then to the polls over time. it's then to argue he should very hard to argue he should work with them on other matters form a and eventually form a with them. so this people7 7 77 people7in 7 77 has really shocked people in germany which is why we 7 these 7 7 these large and i that’s protests and i think that's really reason why this really the reason why this �* voting really the reason why this �*voting in parliament particular voting in parliament just three weeks the 7 has created has created as election has created such as so much both in germany and across the here in germany and across the world. ~ , , s, world. we will be back with you later but for — world. we will be back with you later but for the _ world. we will be back with you later but for the moment - world. we will be back with you later but for the moment thankj later but for the moment thank you very much. i'm joined now by michaela kuefner, who's the chief political editor for the dw news channel in germany. broken the firewall is the phrase we keep the phrase welceep hearing this of a today, this idea of a post—war tenglethei-�*ls eeetlllerll not working with far 77 far right 77 far right is 77 far right is being 77 far right is being broken. the far right is being broken. what is your assessment what what is your assessment of what is unfolding? _
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