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helicopter in washington. they'll be freed on saturday. watchig verified live. the mayor of the district of columbia is due to hold news columbia is due to hold a news conference shortly. is to j to involve a number of going to involvea number of it's goingto involvea number of it's a ,, :— as .. w. ,...
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v w 17 asit " w' n" " asitis " "’ command briefing as it is called. will the called. it will involve the mayor, agencies such as the the fbi, the coastguard, the fbi, the district columbia fire bistrist ssf ggluméia firs all of the agencies department, all of the agencies who were involved in is �* a recovery operation now a recovery operation following that crash involving now a recovery operation following thsjet'ash involving now a recovery operation following thsjet and involving now a recovery operation following thsjet and an olving now a recovery operation following thsjet and an army on 77 on night. helicopter on, wednesday night. who are obviously, agencies who are in the investigation went wrong how 77 how that 77 how that happened. 6 how that happened. as 77 how that happened. as i and how that happened. as i recovery mentioned the recovery is continuing. operation is continuing. the search was suspended overnight because it was simply too cold because it was simply'tpc) cd'uj the divers because it was simply'tdd cb�*uj the divers to their tfif eff semi efi sfi ffifilr as tfif eff elsim5 tfi efi ffifilr as you eef efile eieefe ee ee efileif as you could eef eele eieefe ee ee eeleif as you could from work. as you could see from these live that recovery these live images that recovery operation is continuing. 67
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people died and what the people died and what is the worst air disaster 20 worst air disaster in 20 years the airlines worst air disaster in 20 years tset an airlines worst air disaster in 20 years t set an army 'lines passenger set in an army helicopter near ronald reagan national airport. a preliminary report into what went wrong will be issued 30 days. the es“ ee 33nee “4 ese eeeeftee” a filipino victims include a filipino police to police officer, to chinese nationals into russian figure "etc-fl" "h “fle-�*qu-e ,,,, —— — , , ,, stars. investigative have recovered the 24-le e’l-j-l�*l' feeefeae’; 2:5— �*le. " ' "' "' ' form 24-le e’e—el�*l' eeeezlee—eee. eele— “ee. " ' "' "' ' form a eee eee—eee" eeeeeeeee eee m�*e. " ' "' "' ' form a key part of the f will form a key part of the investigation. a court of two according to sources partner cbs the time of there f there was only f there was only one ecfl'ash't'herewas anly ane controller managing civilian and militafry ff civilian and militafry affir for thejob normaflly traffic for the job normally handled by two people. in his latest social media post president trump is said without evidence that the providing evidence that the black helicopter was black hawk helicopter was flying far above the 200 foot
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limit adding, not really limit adding, that's not really too complicated to understand, it? flu; aces: e; , u it? we are also learning 2a is it? we are also learning 2a hours earlier �*jet had hours earlier another jet had to hours earlier anotherjet had to abort its after a (2de came close to its helicopter came close to its flight path. the runway at which the airlines which the american airlines flight was about to land will flight was'abbut tb land will closed until at least remain closed until at least next week. let's take a look at a pair of video clips in which we both commercial a pair of video clips in which we bc the commercial a pair of video clips in which we bc the helicopter cial a pair of video clips in which we bc the helicopterfrom a pair of video clips in which we bc the helicopter from a plane and the helicopter from a camera inside a we can see camera inside a car. we can see explosion, very to an explosion, very close to national airport. and reagan national airport, and from another angle we can then from another angle we can see the �* on the left eee eee eel�*eeeee' ee eee 'e�*""e e "e ~ " e ,, the eee eee eel�*eeeee' ee eee 'e�*""e e "e ,, ,, e e the american side approachingrthe american plane which a large light inthe light in the nightff and f f and f the ff and f the momeffnt of sky. and then the moment of impact. the collision lfieeee tee fi'ee'f eell'e'ee on approach to happened on approach to runway 33 at airport. to our correspondent carl nasman.
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i know you have been following this story closely some this story closely for some time what can you tell fff fchfe the recovery the recazxeri; the recaeeri; at specifically the recovery of the remains of the passengers the aircrew. and the aircrew. we learned about i an _ and the aircrew. we learned about l an hour— and the aircrew. we learned about l an hour or - and the aircrew. we learned about l an hour or so - about in an hour or so ago from emergency officials that more bodies have now been eee ieeffeeeef eeefefeeef feeeee fee that eee ieeffeeeef eeefeeeef feeeee fee that operation. the remains 7: m 41 being recovered. aboard ff aboard the ff aboard the amfferican airlines 38 aboard the american airlines and all three of the plane and all three of the service members who on military helicopter that military helicopter that when tary helicopter that when those elicopter that when those two pter for that when those two 41 people be aircraft collided, 41 people be recovered. they recovered. obviously they will continue their recovery efforts to search for the remains of more people. those have continuin: toda . it's been continuing today. it's raining all day today and eeeh eeee ell eeeeeew " complicate those that does complicate those efforts you talk about runoff heading into the �*area heading into the shallow area of the potomac river. bbc has eef—mt wife— ee—nife— f talking with some veteran been talking with some veteran
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who in these kinds been talking with some veteran missions in these kinds been talking with some veteran missions and in these kinds been talking with some veteran missions and they ese kinds been talking with some veteran missions and they say kinds been talking with some veteran missions and they say its is of missions and they say it's really difficult visibility in the water is almost zero. do about 20 almost zero. they do about 20 minute shifts at a time. this fahff f "again” f ff fahff f ffthafthouldftakeff is an effort that could take some time. so hard to look some time. it's so hard to look around these records of these two aircraft to try to find the of people or useful remains of people or useful we're from mayors ee’ee—eee eee—£2"; i-ee----- :_-_ ~ .. ~ eee ~ —— mayors office in the mayors office in washington, dc, we've been expecting a press conference to take place at that take place at noon. that would be around now but be right around now but we're hearing could take a hearing that that could take a bit longer. the press f fff ffff may not happen f f f may not happen on conference may not happen on time as scheduled so that we will monitor for the p will meniter that fer eee p , for will meniter that fer the p , for potentially a prepared for potentially a not exactly why. we delay. not sure exactly why. we do know that officials, do know that ntsb officials, the national which is the national agency which is really in of this 5 ant doesn't want to ffamily memeers f f f family members before fffffdofbrifeffinngffff f f fffffdofbrifeffinngfforf f f fdo brieffings for the ffdofbrifeffinngfforf the at e-= the reason the reasfon there. this of the one reason there. this coming from reporting from cnn, our national broadcaster here
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-e the us and they in the'tje’end'theg'are' that the federal fadministration has aylationadministrationhas two of hfelicopter fin anti =-= this airport where we're around this airport where we're right now in washington, dc. want used by the including want used by the military �* at time military helicopter at the time of the collision. they suspended routes may be suspended those routes may be a safety we're here =—ggg-= see f likethat see like that being to see things like that being at more carefully now in looked at more carefully now in the wake of investigation the wake of this investigation it continues. they want as it continues. they will want to try to tighten up some of safeftfy safety measures because these safety measures because of all air traffic you see the ci and around this —— it's not just domestic for; notjust domestic for that just domestic for that we t domestic for that we see mestic airport for that we see military all the military helicopters all the that is just step time. that is just one step we believe being taken the believe being taken in the wake of that l believe being taken in the wake of that ., l, , l, let's speak to scott] miller. at sanjose state university, in california. thank forjoining us bbc news. it looks a number of
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news. it looks like a number of lines of are focused lines of inquiry are focused the altitude that the helicopter, the hawk army helicopter, the black hawk helicopter flying at. what helicopter was flying at. what is your take on that particular part of the investigation? i am not surprised _ part of the investigation? i am not surprised to _ part of the investigation? i am not surprised to hear - part of the investigation? i am not surprised to hear that - not surprised to hear that that's one of the first thing we're those we're learning. those routes exist helicopter routes that exist the airport are around the airport are pre—published preplanned pre—published and preplanned routes that the helicopters are to use when transitin iguired to use when transiting eee? could iguired to use when transiting ere—ee could be a pa rt l %e%§e§ part of the investigation, big part of the investigation, first at pre—flight thfat f thfat the f thfat the helicoptfefr planning that the helicopter did they started pilots did before they started their mission. did they plan the root? talk about use the root? today talk about it amongst themselves use the root? today talk about it ar the st themselves eeeeiete use the root? today talk about it ar the st them as es eeeeiete use the root? today talk about it ar the st them as well? “eiete use the root? today talk about it ar the st them as well? then with the greeters as well? then a look at the radar date taking a look at the radar date oras taking a look at the radar date or as they continue fight or as they continue their fight to see how well they complied with the altitude and course restrictions of routes. restrictions of those routes. do you think that very much ties into report from cnn, ties into that report from cnn, something which we at the bbc
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are working to verify. cnn not f not too f not too low ffffffstthfefchthefrqffff f f ffstthfefchthefrgfiiéqe f corridors for helicopters have been shut indefinitely been shut down indefinitely reagan dues m to mm surprised to hear that either. i was sure that was i was pretty sure that was going to occur. in this 2.11; éiilifff ' . . e . e e eele a, a class,” ffffffff still running fiff ff f fffff fff ffffffff still running air fif ff fffffffff ffffffff still running air trafifitff ff f fffff fff we know fwéfiéiiéwfchétf f f ff ffffffwéfiqrfiéwfchétf ofbvifoqufly fi} ifsf(frf1owfchatf ofbvifousfly fi} ifsféf an; ofbvifousfly fi} ifsfaf jwfchétf of infousfly fi} ifsféf swash; infthef y there is a problem. in the interest of safety and ensuring these early hours after the in these early hours after the that the airspace still tragedy that the airspace still remains as safe as possible, remainsas safe as possible. down these air ff is probably a very corridors is probably a very prudent idea until the is fisftomelete ffff ffffffffe eff fisfeoft'ifpflete and can see what ca nffsee what exactly went wrong. how challengg is this airs - ace wrong. how challenging is this - airspace around i wrong. how challenging is this - airspac1 in 'ound i wrong. how challenging is this - airspac1 in the d i wrong. how challenging is this| - airspac1 in the united reagan national?,!e eee lin-eee "' ' ’ i would sa reagan national?!e eee lin-eee "' ' ’ iwould sa this is reagan national?,!e eee lam-eee - i would say this is some f fffffffthafllengfithf f of the most challenging airspace in the airspace anywhere in the it has such a mix of country. it has such a mix of different types of air traffic. you have your of course you have your airliners in and out of reagan
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national airport but you also have �* airplanes, have smaller airplanes, jets, small general corporate jets, small general aviation aircraft and of course helicopters civilian the helicopters both civilian and military all trying to fit the helicopters both civilian and a ilitary all trying to fit the helicopters both civilian and a very y all trying to fit the helicopters both civilian and a very small ying to fit the helicopters both civilian and a very small slice to fit the helicopters both civilian and a very small slice of fit because of airspace because of restrictions that we have with how close the us capitol, the white house and other washington are, washington monuments are, you're from flying you're prohibited from flying over those areas for obvious funnels reasons. that really funnels the traffic into very narrow the traffic into a very eaew e—eeeee e eee e doors. thg traffig mm a wry flan-gs? f—m—w —~ 77 7 doors. u, thg traffig into a wry flan-gs? f—m—w —~ 77 7 doors. w corridor doors. this was a relatively _ corridor doors. this was a relatively small _ corridor doors. this was a | relatively small passenger jet. but obviously with a helicopter the black hawk it like the black hawk it is designed for all sorts §§§'§fi§§ ffif £1.15“? if combat and asa situations, and as a high of maneuverability. degree of maneuverability. one would assume if crew had would assume if the crew had really any notice that they greatly én�*yfifjticé that they coming raally any'htftica that thay coming close rraally any'htftica that thay coming close to another were coming so close to another aircraft they would have tried to maneuver the helicopter out
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a, {héah ,,,,.,,, h. ,,,.,,, . {heway ' of the way. 72522? so. that is of the way,§ - so. that is obviouslyi of the may; - so. that is obviously one -=——: the huge questions will of the huge questions that will need to be as i'm you've heard the sure you've heard in the radio broadcast between the helicopter and national tower, the air traffic control tower the air traffic control tower the helicopter indicated that they had the airliner insight. something terrible obviously something terrible happened here put the ntsb happened here put up the ntsb using the radar data and will be " ' will be to simulators will be able to essentially virtually recreate mam what the helicopter pilots were seeing in terms of ground seeing in terms of the ground lights, �* traffic was lights, other traffic that was in the area and that may give us some insight into what ussome insight into what those”, pilots saw helicopter pilots actually saw for even though it may be = -:e the airliner f z:— it they had it mixed there has another up, maybe there was another airplane they looked maybe airplane they looked at. maybe got lost in the ground like, it got lost in the ground tihe. of that it got lost in the ground ti'ne. of that nature. that is things of that nature. that is also to be a huge focus
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ates dating to tee a heal-2 ten; ' " ' the investigation. of the investigation. interesting say that, interesting you say that, i've spoken to about everyone i've spoken to about this dreadful raid this dreadful crashers raid stack the air stack question, when the air controller said to the traffic controller said to the helicopter crew, do you have a visual on this plane, were the actually looking at the 5f5i¥ 555551151555'55 55 55257 f of 5f5i¥ 555255? l55§|fi§ 55 55257 f of the 5f5i¥ 55tii5tt§ l55§|fi§ 55 55257 f of the air plaint of the air traffic controller in mind? controller had in mind? finally, helicopter, there finally, the helicopter, there is so helicopter traffic is so much helicopter traffic there. just talk to us about how air traffic controllers there. just talk to us about how air this fic controllers there. just talk to us about how air this military )llers there. just talk to us about how air this military traffic handle this military traffic versus air versus commereiat air traffia, helicopters especially the helicopters especially because they supposed to be because they are supposed to be on these routes with on these preplanned routes with known headings, and e -57 the cantrollers courses the controllers make assumptions that in fact the helicopters will comply with the requirements are set the requirements that are set out. it becomes a matter of " wtherhf talking them, talking to z z; on the radio f an che radio and f ff f fan che frfadfifofafrftd the};
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them on the radio and then monitoring them to ensure they them on the radio and then monito onj them to ensure they them on the radio and then monito on the m to ensure they them on the radio and then monito on the course, sure they them on the radio and then monito on the course, and they them on the radio and then monito on the course, and the y remain on the course, and the they have been altitudes they have been assigned that they've accepted by doing these flights. that is going to be something thetat also going to be something they will look at it again. i mentioned earlier the preflight planning and execution but that is basically the separation, fezi beginning of the the beginning part of the separation is guaranteed by f— —f using these preplanned routes that everyone is expecting so won't be any surprises. there won't be any surprises. scott miller, pilot and lecture, thank you aviation lecture, thank you very much for your time. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news.
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to germany where parliament has just rejected a proposed new law to tighten immigration. our correspondent was following events. it’s our correspondent was following events. �* . . our correspondent was following events. �* , ., ., events. it's all about whether ou events. it's all about whether you invite _ events. it's all about whether you invite the _ events. it's all about whether you invite the far— events. it's all about whether
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you invite the far right - events. it's all about whether you invite the far right in - events. it's all about whether you invite the far right in or. you invite the far right in or whether you them in whether you keep them out in the cold and don't with the cold and don't work with them in general politics with of the so—called firewall. the reason why the conservative leaders bill is so very is he effectively have relied on ff f fhavefrelfiedfanfchfef fafrff = we now know that that right. we now know that that to sell this is attempt to sell failed, this is real to the party a real blow to the party leading the polls i think it :-= fthat it potentially shows that it potentially undermines his attempt to really as he puts it go all in really as he puts it do all in migration. it shows the on migration. it shows the majority in parliament does not agree with this tactics. i e= what we've seen f what we've seen today and think what we've seen today and all is a really ferocious all week is a really ferocious debate about what the conservative party is all about. this is a party that is to find its wayf after trying to find its way after years of being led by gears st'la’e’ing'ted'ag'the" chancellor angela centrist chancellor angela merkel and said that germany can take in refugees and
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manage. shifting the party to the right, he trying the right, and he was trying with this pill to win over right and lure them back, right andture them back. those who right ahdture them back. those who are potentially those whaeansee , a” a ,, a a voting for potentially those whoeaeeee , a” a ,, a a voting for the thinking about voting for the �* right afd by this tactic onmigration. this tactic worked in parliament. hasn't worked in parliament. if at polls it is not you look at polls it is not clear whether it worked at the ballot either. eitherway merz f merz hasf f merz has a friedrich merz has suffered a blow politically today. it would also interesting if would also be interesting if members of his conservative members of hisconservative did the line party did until the line because it was a named vote. i think will get more information about that. conservatives are deeply split on the deeply split on migration the former chancellor angela merkel made an intervention yesterday, friedrich f friedrich merz's f calling friedrich merz�*s tactics wrong, which is very =— f ithink unusual. i think what we're seeing now is the conservatives really to decide which really trying to decide which way they are going to now in way they are going to go now in the election campaign. we have an election in three weeks'
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them and there is eserythind to play forget "*"*"'*" eserything to play forgo. " in parliament. dramatic day in parliament. it's going to be really to get the readout interesting to get the readout of has voted and how they of who has voted and how they voted in where support for friedrich merz has fallen ?7 e? :7up x: ngfvery up very the f whatf f whatho you election, what do you think, result does to his this result does to his ambitions to be the next chancellor? he ambitions to be the next chancellor?— ambitions to be the next chancellor? he is still way in the chancellor? he is still way - in the polls. - chancellor? he is still way - in the polls. his - chancellor? he is still way l - in the polls. his party ahead in the polls. his party is traditionally the largest has f f has there f has there for f has there for afthile. around 30%.f7 it's pulling around 30%. the difficulty is who he is it's pulling around 30%. th
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