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office and i can confirm that tomorrow, the february 1st deadline, that president trump put into place continues. on mexico. 25% tariffs on canada. and allowed to distribute into our these are promises made and promises kept by he has signed those in the oval office. economic choices in the world? our panel tonight, former lib dem leaderjo swinson, conservative former business minister paul scully, of engand and the man tipped to be the next prime minister of canada, mark carney.

well, look, i think president trump probably thinks that we in canada will cave in, but we're going to stand up to a bully. we're not going to back down. we're united and we will retaliate. well, ultimately the steps that the president is taking china, others and threatening the world are going to rebound i mean, let's be absolutely clear. this is the second time in less than ten years, in effect, ripped up a trade agreement with its closest trading

well, it's. .. um, listen, let's. .. and just to compare, and you will have heard this before, canada relative to mexico, the proportions are less than 1% of illegal drugs. of legal immigrants. but it's pretty clear

that the us president has a bit deficit that is run. well, that's a. . .yes. you've just shifted the justification, as the president sometimes does. so, that's what runs the deficit, versus canada, where... that's not being ripped off. at a discount to world prices to americans. we can't. you want to be prime minister in weeks. what does that look like?

well, the first thing is, we have a lot of cards. i've been in close contact with our main negotiators, also been down. we will take steps. that we will match, dollar for dollar, the us tariffs. that will most affect the united states and this will have an impact on the canadian economy. and that impact will be felt more quickly and to a greater extent than the us.

and we have many, many other options that we don't want to deploy, potash, for example. impact to those who are making the decisions. the second thing i'd say, though, i'd underscore,

i'd remind, you know, we're a aaa country. we have tremendous resources, full stop. and we actually have a lot more in common with a lot of other major economies around the world. and over time, we will look to diversify. well, that's an interesting point. the g7, the eu, the uk, to do in the face of what you call bullying from the white house? that's what it is. secondly, ithink, you know, one of the issues is,

enhancing our climate change policy, our emissions policy here in canada, including the way we would treat our trading partners. that bears much more similarity to what the united kingdom is doing with respect to climate, and the european union. so, look, there are some pretty major economies, ourselves included, that think a lot more alike on trade. a lot more like the way the united states used to think on trade. i mean, to be a little bit more candid. from the likes of the uk, or might it be that the uk thinks, "trump tariffs ourselves" ? we're not looking for help. what we look for...

we can stand on our own. are followed through. and that means that major economies, major like—minded economies, at the world as it is now, not as it used to be,

i'm conscious that canada is the president of the g7 this year. conscious of the fact that i might be prime minister in the not too distant future. i'll observe the following. that the united kingdom, the european union, canada, canada, to reducing emissions, building the competitiveness to have the type of trading protections for your companies that that are not.

and so, the us is going through a period where it is turning inward. it's almost as if there is a fever that is raging there. eventually that fever will pass. but in the meantime we see an opportunity for canada. and i would expect that over time, there will be and obviously, for people back in the uk, this is a new mark carney anniversary of brexit. people are reflecting. have you changed any of your views on the economic impact of that? this is a case where i wish i were wrong or had been wrong

is, we know what the economic impact of these measures that the united states is undertaking is going to be. it will be harmful for the united states. as a trading partner, and the rest of us need mark carney, former governor of the bank of england and prime ministerial candidate in canada.

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does see, he has 7 7 7do7e7s7se7e,7he7ha7s7talked 7 7 77t7hi7s7 >7e7s7se7e,7he7ha7s7talked about this that if you are bringing something into the united states from whether it is britain or mexico or china or canada or europe you will pay a little more, if something is made in the united states he will lower the tax. to a lot of americans thatis lower the tax. to a lot of americans that is very attractive. but lower the tax. to a lot of americans that is very attractive.— that is very attractive. but come on, ou that is very attractive. but come on. you are _ that is very attractive. but come on, you are trader _ that is very attractive. but come on, you are trader communists, | that is very attractive. but come i on, you are trader communists, the economics of a madhouse, it will increase your prices, i% of your gdp, beans and pork and salmon up, milk, butter, maple syrup, everything will go out as a result of these tariffs for a president that promised to bring inflation down. he that promised to bring inflation down. . . . . that promised to bring inflation down. . . , , ., that promised to bring inflation down. , , ., ., down. he was president for four ears, down. he was president for four years. we _ down. he was president for four years. we had — down. he was president for four years, we had the _ down. he was president for four years, we had the lowest i down. he was president for four i years, we had the lowest inflation rate we ever had. i go with over the history rather than a theory. everything that trump is doing at home is supply—side, increasing the productive capacity of the united states and deregulating and

producing more american energy, cutting taxes, all deflationary so i reject the idea. you're right that if you're going to buy something from china under trump's policies you will pay a bit more but if you buy something made in michigan you will pay less. the overall impact on prices could be neutral. what will pay less. the overall impact on prices could be neutral.—

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