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tv   The Media Show  BBC News  February 1, 2025 2:30pm-3:01pm GMT

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in the drc since sunday. the passengers included a mother and daughter. now on bbc news, the media show. hello, i'm katie razzall. and i'm ros atkins.
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the narrative around ai. of the cost of the likes of chatgpt, and that's sent ripples through silicon valley and raised
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in the west. and it released a new ai model earlier this month it says that it is competitive with some of the leading us so we're talking about, you know, a model that can of companies like openai. so this was a game—changer, set off a frenzy, both but what did you make of the way it was
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chinese tech is catching up. in the us, in europe, in the uk, to say, "yes, but has there been, do you think, enough scepticism on what deepseek claims it's done? i mean, tech founder palmer luckey told fox news, "useful idiots in the us media" "have fallen for chinese different media landscape in china, there's still a lot of mystery about deepseek.
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so almost every assumption about deepseek me and my colleagues recently reported that we know, and there is reporting about deep seek in that way. bubble that has obviously been growing for some time in some quarters? absolutely. ago, the dominating question about al is, right?
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i think it is too soon to say. but already some of that's rebounding. and i think the question will be, is deepseek truly as good as it claims to be, or is it costing more than they are they leaning more than they're letting for now, we talked about reporting on this story in the uk and europe. hi. so in china, i think this has been a moment of pride i
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the lunar new year holiday, that everyone around them i is talking about this, and... sorry to interrupt. yes, sure. can't be stopped. there's, of course, _ the connection is being made with the us. as proof that the us's effort will fail. -
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so there's all sorts - of different sentiment there. shirin and kathrin, for the moment, thank you very much. you're describing are happening in the context of the current its parent company, bytedance, is chinese. a ban in the us has been temporarily halted and it's not but the reason for the ban, which had bipartisan security concerns about how americans�* personal data might certain subjects.
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professor martin, thank you very much forjoining us. to what degree do you think the chinese technology that from the experts, is a vast array of different activities, hardware, software, different products and services. chinese firm, alibaba, that's come out today to much significant for the future of the balance of power between us and china than tiktok, which at the end the balance of power.
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is, is this because they got round the sanctions? important as to whether, in effect, they've cheated or they've done it themselves. and accessible ai? advanced chips are essentially like the blood of ai. like deepseek without. ..
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and its export controls for at least five years now, most notably not under president trump, but under a major demonstration of chinese tech power. they're creating a variety of products. different chinese tech offerings, are in some way able to access? there's a lot in that, and it's a legitimate concern will get a lot of data.
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and it seems that deepseek's terms of service are very intelligence picture. you ban tiktok or force it to have an american owner, it is... the... do anything else. public attitudes.
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youthful, opinion. and what... i think, if you look at the broad sweep of know how it works? it's not going to persuade them about... but when you think about how news is curated, how information is curated, it really is something that i think is of concern, much more so than data on young people's views.
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um, yes. so i started discovering... for about ten years. some pronunciations, some use of terms. l that a long history- of separation has just led to different use of language. especially the youngest. are becoming heavy users of chinese social media apps. so i was wondering i if that was connected. and i started doing some
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reporting around that. i several decades of... the chinese civil war. so it was a party that had come from china and that imposed... so after democratisation, |
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people were allowed again the young... and are you saying now, what you're finding, by the young, in terms of their attitudes to china junior high, senior high, on average, half - of them uses tiktok. and they watch - chinese soap operas. that's something... chinese tv shows, like
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entertainment shows. i had any interest in. so it's soft power, if you like. how has it gone down in taiwan? ..ruling party is still here. it's now part of the democracy. worried about this. they... the ruling party basically fear that they are using... -
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landscape here. it could basically mean that people are no longer... - so... and is this conspiracy, or is itjust as much or more they're out there. it's cosmopolitan. of course, they can... but the way this app works is also that the user's -
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flow as much as on some other social media apps. | so you will end up, maybe, if you're a 14—year—old - but after a few days, - you start receiving content about how taiwanese democracy is inferior to chinese _ so researchers startedl setting up profiles and, afterjust a few days, - they discovered that some content, soft political- content, was being pushed to them.
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because while it may feel logical to say it out loud that, well, if we watch things on social i think it's profoundly difficult, they released them all. and that caused a huge sort
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of stir in the us, but it's impossible to determine whether or not that influenced... to break for donald trump rather than for hillary clinton the disruptive effect is important enough about kathrin's work on taiwan. which is enough to arouse suspicion. cos there are all sorts of things going on in their life. cos they don't tell you.
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and it is worth saying, in terms of accusations tiktok�*s head of public policy for europe, the middle east from china to hand over data. completely and utterly false." spectator event, but the recent excel world championships yes, this is excel, as in spreadsheets. it's an e—sport. it's streamed online so you can watch it. it's proving popular. you can go along and watch it in person as well. and we've been speaking to robert mcmillan from the wall streetjournal, who attended the 2023 edition. # it's the excel # world championship # who is going to win?
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we allare! no chance. well, that's a good question. like, a coal furnace that's powering the radiators you know, a lot of people use it. it's a little bit like magic to many people, myself included. and when you show up to witness the world championship, what do you see? you walk in through the through the doors. what greets you? he laughs.
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when i saw it, it was in the luxor hotel and casino. so you walk in there, carrot top is playing there, and there's all the usual las vegas stuff, people in cowboy hats. and then you walk in and it's a... it's actually a very... there's a...a place where the audience can sit. big stage. there were maybe seven competitors and then up in a booth, there were colour commentator like, world wrestling championship—type material. yeah, i confess... it was very exciting. i mean, for excel. i was watching some of it a little bit earlier. do they get set challenges? isat there...
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well, ok, so they do a bunch of problem—solving, right? so they're... they might be given a bunch of data, say it's... and you have to calculate how to make all the potions. it's extremely geeky. and then there's... the numbers change. robert, it's katie here. i'm actually intrigued by... you sound so enthusiastic about it. i can't believe you didn't go back for 202a. but, anyway, just give us a bit of detail. it's called microsoft excel world championships. they showed up.
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founded by a company that i believe does training around excel, so they get...they get sponsorships and they sell various products around the competition. but the focus, the dirty secret of the excel competition is that there is a day of very kind of, um... convention centre... you've got to do the training... ..the day that it happens. ithink you... 0k. is it streaming? how are people going to watch it next year? so you can...you can... ros, i've got an admission. go on. i don't think i've actually,
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by choice, ever gone no, never? no. would you...? and then quickly close them. um... i knew that would be your answer. and found i could settle in for some time. 0k. so there are all these niche sports out there. other platforms as well. they are for someone. thanks for watching. bye— bye. bye. and if you'd like to hear a longer version you get your bbc podcasts. for many, this weekend looks mostly dry and settled. variable clouds, some sunshine, wetter and windier conditions pushing into the north and the west of the country. but into next week it looks
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like high pressure will build and rain that we've had. as these weather fronts begin to encroach in, and western scotland. grey and gloomy and feel quite chilly as well, but we could be up to ten degrees or so for stornoway and belfast. and england too but midlands eastwards will be dry and where skies begin to clear in the southeast, we're likely to see a touch of frost with subzero values to greet us for sunday. now this weather front in the north and the west grinds to a halt across more central parts of the uk
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during sunday because it can't move any further east so it looks like the rain will tend to fizzle out sunshine and further east of the weather front it will also be bright with some sunshine, but it will be quite monday we see further weather fronts ganging up across the north west and it will be quite windy too. heavy for the highlands and for argyll, but further south and east a lot of dry weather around. variable cloud, some sunny spells, lighter winds but then from wednesday onwards it turns chillier
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but drier with some sunshine. three israeli hostages are freed by hamas,
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more than 180 palestinian prisoners are freed by israel in return. the west bank and gaza. of philadelphia have been confirmed dead. on canada, mexico and china — three of america's ceasefire agreement. ofer kalderon, yarden bibas and keith siegel were abducted mttsge ntmorethan 15
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palestinian prisoners.
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