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after president donald trump canada's prime minister justin trudeau has said duties on us goods. mr trump says the "pain" americans will face with lower taxes, better military protection and no tariffs. canadian prime ministerjustin trudeau and mexican president on the phone on saturday. the stroke of a pen. canada has hit back. the prime minister warned the impact would be huge. tariffs against canada
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millions of homes in america party, michael ignatieff. thank you very much forjoining us on bbc news. in interview us on bbc news. in an interview you did recently you talked about a potential existential posed by donald trump to can you elaborate on you,.;—,:, efi”::; 5; ...you . by you bythat what you mean. by that threat what you mean. by that threat what sort of form it would and what sort of form it would take? , ., ., , �* ., take? existential doesn't mean our existence _
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take? existential doesn't mean our existence is _ take? existential doesn't mean our existence is in _ take? existential doesn't mean our existence is in threat, - our existence is in threat, canada will through this canada will come through this and survive. what i is if éfllj iflfis�*i�*flé; yhét ! “15213“. ig [ffw'fiffimfl'fliw and abreis�*et titlhat ! mean. is if" " ' ' ' spend 150 years 2nd 2brs�*is�*2; titlhat ! m22fl. 2 if" " ' ' ' spend 150 years next door yoo spend isde’ars next door another yod spend isdeare next door another country, yod spend isdears next door another country, you've to another country, you've signed with them, signed agreements with them, formal agreements that govern your economic relationship, and then find that your economic relationship, and the being find thatffsx 2 your economic relationship, and the being ripped id thatffsx 2 your economic relationship, and the being ripped up, at your economic relationship, and the being ripped up, suddenly are being ripped up, suddenly discover you are not in a di2seseryed'e'rehetih'2”"' " ' about but negotiation about tariffs but you are faced with unilateral of tariffs, itjust the crucial upends the crucial economic relationship that every in the 77 j in the 77 so in that job in. the sedhtrf; 22m that"? ”ww” it job in. the sedhtrf; 22m thet"w "www it is jeb in. the eeehtrft tsie'ifi. thetw ”www it is a job in. the eeehtrgt tsie'ifi. thetw' w " " it is a shock. will sense it is a shock. we will get through this, it has get through this, but it has been a of been a brutal reversal of our expectations about our closest expectations e�*oodt our otosest a nd expectationsab-l .| ..,. and ., e= if spoken about 7 spoken about canada 7 the rken about canada 7 the 515t about canada 7 the 515t state: canada 7 the 515t state ofanada becoming the 51st state of the united states. so how does canada its own canada bolster its own sovereignty?—
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canada bolster its own sovereiun ? ~ ., ~ 7 7 has the government has announced very strong measures on $135 billion worth of american if we don't eta goods. if we don't get a back from the trump response back from the trump administration i think another $155 wsnsae’r’asssmx’n’ 7 ' ' " " gnsae’r'ass billion la? ' ' ' ' wanothe7r7$155billion’canibe " " be another $155 billion can be put on terms. we will impose puton terms.,we will impose on the american economy. costs on the american economy. one thing we are going that's one thing we are going to do. then clearly we are to do. and then clearly we are responding to his concerns about the border and about and another billion is bein- spent to dollars is being spent to toughen up our border. then we will have to see if trump sees reason. because at some point willi will impose sesere will impose seeere cost on american as it elm-i will on the cahadian economy. whole thing will on the canadian economy. whole thing is just crazy. the whole thing is just crazy. we are hoping that republican e“ congressmen and senators in the united states begin whisper ig—e him and 77 him and say, 77 him and say, what do you you 52;%.w7§? you are doing 5 you are doing here;
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harmin- your harming your own . harming your own people and ”will?" 7 will beé your own you will be reducing your own political support in your own country. ustinlrud - to country. ustinlrud to talkin: country. im - to talking about l country. [ustinlrudgggg “jg l - to talking about the addition to talking about the imposition of tariffs that imposition of 25% tariffs that you mention, he also talked about canadians supporting products. �* might domestic products. how might that boost canadian economy diiferent dillerent and 7 7 7 wnsgnag’t’o’a 77 7 ina way in a way that mr trump pressure in a way that mr trump perhaps hadn't anticipated? sure, we will consume a look, sure, we will consume a lot of our stuff. i think lot of our own stuff. i think this is crisis, to use a this is a crisis. to eeee at- it this is a crisis. to eeererr ~ ~ it can this is a crisis. to lesser ~ ~ it can become an cliche, it can become an opportunity. canada needs to have a deep look at its own 77 77 77ar71d77ret7hink777 7 and rethink it economy'and—rethinkthe fact it on the is extremely dependent on the american economy. all our connectors for example energy connectors for example north and south, run north and south, electricity, oil and and run north and south, ele need y, oil and and run north and south, ele need y, strengthen and we need to strengthen the east west connectors in our economy and address long—standing problems. we have some
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7= trade barriers mzzzz- —ave united 7 united economy �*ca7pital one united economy for capital and labourand we one united economy for capital and labour and wejust one united economy for capital and labour and we just can't and labour an'd'we just can�*t this kind of subpar afford this kind of sdbpar when we are under performance when we are under amount of pressure. so i —= it's not just question think it's notjust a question consuming more canadian fit efifisefi'fifi fififs eefiedléfi it's it efifis�*jfi'fifi 53? eafiaaefi it's taking es eefis�*jfi'fifi mere eefieaefi it's taking a hard look stuff. it's taking a hard look, economy and ==e "no” 7512417 77 links need in 77 77link7s777 5241 in so; links need in order to 77 the links we need in order to develop much �*and 77— 7 77 competitive and 7 competitive and more more competitive and more 2 22: at home. productive economy at home. what are of the telhat are members'efthew” public, sorts canadian public, what sorts of are they having conversations arelthey having themselves about this? amongst themselves about this? i think there a lot of i think there is a lot of shock. you have to understand how deeply connected we are. we have across the have families across the border, canadians who work in united states and who united states and americans who work in canada. to foreigners like the same people. we look like the same people. we look like the same people. we are very different. although we are very different. is a kind existential there is a kind of existential shock also anger. a shock here and also anger. a that we have been good
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good friends 77 good friends and neighbodrs,lgood friends and allies for 150 years. and cuts against our it.cuts. against outbasic of what our e-= with our closest relations with our closest ally i everybody 7to 7 to this needs7 7 to this needs 77to listening to this needs to w " theirown think about their own relations with the united states. the with thetjnited states. the have some deep europeans have some deep questions to trump is questions to ask. if trump is ripping up agreements with canada and why wouldn't canada and mexicorvihyrwooldn't want to do exactly the same he want to do exactly the same thing with europe, with asia and other countries? we are and other eeentrie2? l-r'e are and other eeentrie2? l-r'e are a new and other eoontrie2? l-r'e are a new world where into a new world where the question �*whether you can questionlof whether you can america a trust america becomes a fundamental question in foreign policy every country, not 77 2-w—w2—ww;,ww 2—w2—wwfww 'ust canada. is? eje—e later this 'ust canada. is? eje—e laterthis ear. polls later this year. how strong do think current strong do you think the current with the united situation with the united states makes the argument for ell—”— ——— of7 .. 777 of7 national 7 7 777 of7 national unity7in government of national unity in ottawa? iwfe government of national unity in ottawa? ~ ., , government of national unity in ottawa? ., , ., , ottawa?,,;\nlgeare a ve olarised situation at political situation at the moment i doubt we can get
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moment and i doubt we can get people from the other parties the current government. i = -= milan? 7 77 {hill/5.47155; 77 vigil/lula} 7 77 what would7 be a good idea —e to get 7 to get parliament would be to get parliament back. you may know this, : w—wew but canada's parliament is prorogued, at prorogued, suspended at the moment. i think for the sake of moment. ithinisfor the saise of unity moment. ithinisfor th2 saise of unity it would good national unity it would be good to show our are functioning. actoallyfonctioning. the here you would have problem here is you would have to get an agreement the to get an agreement with the opposition parties not to bring down the at the down the government at the first opportunity because an right in the of crisis is the last thing canadians or want. canadians orwant. i that canadians need or want. i think the government should do it can to 7 it can to try to a national consensus. we build a national consensus. we have some good have some pretty good agreements with our provinces. agreements with ourprovinces. are very (lug lbggovigces are very in our (lug lpygovigces are very in our federation and important in our federation and they are playing on the same team with federal team with the federal government. i think there is a good common 7 good common front and pretty good common front and we've got some very able canadians who know how to play
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canadians who knowhow to play game. we have negotiated this game. we have negotiated with trump in the past in 2019 and got successful and got a successful agreement. not beyond the bounds of it's not beyond the bounds of possibility that after he has gogsjbjtity that after he has a from extracted a certain—price from that we will end up in a us that we will end up in a negotiation that this negotiation that settles this matter but i think we also have be prepared this might on for 7— 7777 7on for monts and7777m go on for months and months and and then �*course go on for months and months and and then �* course the months. and then of course the cost to american and 22�*2�* te hee geek?“ enef77 77 777 77777 777 777 economies be test ste the tith�*er'2eh ehef77 77 777 77777 777 777 economies be very canadian economies will be very severe. and the to severe. and the disruption to the global will start isbglss. ,. ,..-.- . béfefi a... . 7 world already of the world are already feeling some sort of pressure from donald trump, namely from donald tru mp." namely panama from donald trumprnamely panama and mexico, greenlandrpanamaend si�*s�*iexico, in greenlandrpanamaend si�*s�*iexico. in the western how wise would it for how wise would it for those how wise would it for7those7777how not. uld it be for those countries, for those territories to club together to push back? those territories to clu
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