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states will take the united states will take �*and own gaza strip ever and ewnthegaaa strip all with all palestinians being permanently relocated. level site and permanently relocated. level - site and get _ permanently relocated. level - site and get rid _ permanently relocated. level . site and get rid of- permanently relocated. level - site and get rid of the - the site and get ridreérthe— ~ , ~ buildings, destrdyed bdildingsflevelled create an economic h 7 ”7 that development that will supply unlimited numbers of and unlimited numbers ofjobs and housing for the people of the housing for the people - , area. ben'amin dennett -- benjamin’— area. benjamin dennett -- benjamin netanyahu - area. benjamin dennett -- - benjamin netanyahu appeared to welcome the proposal and said it something could it was something that could change history. the postal change history. the us postal service temporary service announced a temporary halt of the shipment of packages china and no packages from china and no reason has been hello and welcome to we begin in washington where donald trump has told a news “ha" tr-fl has h“ a -e
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bombs, removing unexpleded bar-ribs, it removing dnexpleded bar-aha. it and removing dnexploded bombs. it and getting the moving again for 7moving7again7for stops jet se j attheé 77 j at the white mr speaking at the white house, mr emphasised such a move trump emphasised such a move would be permanent. he said wggld lgegggrmanent. he said would not to palestinians would not want to go back to stop lepers make gerbaekto step lepers make from him. figs gebackto stoprlepersmake - m— gerbackto staple ~- ~ from him. a . ., here from him. see gr as ease i concerned, it do what is concerned, it will do what is concerned, it will do what is if necessary, we is concerned, it will do what is that. if necessary, we is concerned, it will do what is that. we're essary, we is concerned, it will do what is that. we're essar to ve elitt de that; tele’re law�*s ta over telltt de that; tele’re law�*s te over that piece, to deeelap it. going to develop it, create thousands and thousands jobs going to develop it, create tho| itinds and thousands jobs going to develop it, create tho| it will and thousands jobs going to develop it, create tho| it will be d thousands jobs going to develop it, create tho| it will be something sjobs going to develop it, create tho| it will be something thats and it witt he eemething that ~ , , , entire middle east can be the entire middle east can be very proud of. but everybody feels that the same feels that continuing the same process that has gone on forever, overand process that has gone on forever, over and over again and then it starts and then the killing starts and all the other problems and you other problems start... and you end up at the same place and we don't to see that happen the united states with so by the united states with its and strength, -.. .....-.-.,, . j ..,. .;... lté atesltltf and strength; it, u; ohm-l, . j s... .;... lte atesltltg and strength; it, the its atahitity and strength; i that the its atahitity and strength; i that we the its atahitity and strength; i that we developing strength that we are developing and over the last and developed over the last fairly short period of time, i ::_e say really since 7 5 say really since the igéoiuldisay reallyesince the i igofiuldisay reallyesince the i think iggofiuldisay reallyesince the i think would be a election, i think would be a great of that
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great keeper of something that is very, very strong, very great keeper of something that is very, \and ;trong, very great keeper of something that is very, \and very, , very great keeper of something that is very, \and very, , vei good 5 j "j 7 m7 7 for the area, notjust for israel, for the entire middle east, very important. we east, very important. and we will again have thousands of jobs and they will be jobs for everyone. not for a 73757270? , ;,;., . 777777777777of7peo7p7le7 7 77 77 7 7 7of7peo7p7le7bu7t 77 77 7 7 7777777777777of7peo7p7le7bu7t be 7 7 7 group of people but for israeli 7-- and the israeli prime minister and the israeli prime minister and benjamin netanyahu what 7 w77hat authority7 would asked what authority would allow the us to take strip7?777lt7 7 7 strip7?777lt7 was 7 strip7?777lt7was also 7 strip7?777lt7 was also put to strip7?777lt7 w�*7this ;o put to strip7?777lt7 w�*7this was it to strip7?777lt7 w�*7this was an o to7 to ekpand to ek7pand the to ekpand the boundaries idea to expand the boundaries israel and a longer of israel and have a longer though both piece, eventhough bothssides �* how important the lad and know how important the lad and is to israelis gazans. here is to israelis'and gazans. here their response. is to israel'rsand gazans. here their response. i is to israelis and gazanerere i their response.— is their response. ownership position i, i see i see it bringing i see it bringing great and i see it bringing great stability to that of stability to that part of the middle east and the middle east and maybe the entire middle east and everybody i've to, this not a lee—h“ t't'e "ske— “f�*hc ~ ' "f 7 ww ' not a decision made lighting lightly, everybody loves the —— lightly, everybody loves the idea of the idea ef the united states " ' w "n” that piece idea ef the united states " ' s "s” that piece of land and
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owning that piece of land and creating thousands ofjobs with that will be something thattelittjqq—s— ~ —— a- a really magnificent in a really area that nobody magnificent area that nobody would know, nobody look would know, nobody can look because they see is because all they see is death and and rubble and and destruction and rubble and demolished buildings over the 7 7 over the top 77 77 over the top it 77 77 over the top it is77 77 over the top it is77just 77 over the top it is77just a 77 all over the top it is just a terrible sight. i've studied, i studied this very closely over a lot of and i've seen from different angle it from every different angle and it is a very, very different —— dangerous place to and it is only going to get 77 7 77and7lth7i7r71k77 77 77 7 77ar71d7i ifiiiiihii 77 77 7 77ar71d7lthi7r71k7this7is7a7r7177 77 7 that i7i thihk7thi7s7is7a7n77 thati i t gotten ;77is ah idea that has gotten tremendous — i'm about from the — i'm talking about from the highest level of leadership, gotten tremendous praise. if 7 united states 7 7 united states can 7 7 united states can to bring stability and peace in the middle east, we will do __ .,é§%s . v, ——jack reed one. i that. b? —— jack reed one. i mentioned tonight our third goat — mentioned tonight our third goal. one is that gaza if: é m7rael ever 77 pose a threat to israel ever again _ pose a threat to israel ever again. president trump is again, president trema is—;——;7—;————————— it to again, president trdma is—;——;7—;————————— it to a much taking it to a much lesser higher— taking it to a much lesser
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higher level. he sees a different future �*that piece different future for that piece of land — different future for that piece of land that has been the focus so much terrorism is, so of so much terrorism is, so many— of so much terrorism is, so many attacks against us, so many— many attacks against us, so many trial so many many trial and so many tribulations. has a tribulations. he has a different idea and i think it e 7—777 is worth paying attention to - talking _ is worth paying attention to talking it. is explerng his - w - his staff. i it gggplgrirtg it with his eeeateg his staff. i it is with his staff. i think it is _ that - with his staff. i think it is that could a” s....,.;.,.;;.,,.;; pursuin- on this, i'm joined by our carl nasman. correspondence carl nasman. it has a few hours now since has been a few hours now since quite remarkable ggj’gg [gggrkahte news watmore ggj’gg [ggarkahte news watmore reactions you 72:77; _0u seen? 7777777777777777777777777777 have you seen? remarkable and really would _ have you seen? remarkable and really would - a - have you seen? remarkable and really would - a pretty l really wodld represent apretty in terms of us big shift in terms of us policy in the we hearing in the region:iw’e are hearing a of on lot of reaction on this. maybe one of the most one ofthe most significant we are hearing from arabia 7 7 77 akin; iééif 7 7 7 77 akin; itself.7767f 7 7 you saudi arabia itself. of course one of the topics we would be on table
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thought would be on the table during one of these meetings between donald trump between donald tromo and would be potential netanyahu would be a potential pathway to normalisation is in terms of between terms of the relations between saudi and israel that saudi arabia and israel that saudi arabia and israel that saudi arabia and israel that saudi arabia saying in the late night it would not israel formalise ties with israel unless there is a palestinian 7 77777es7tabl7ishe7d7 777 7 77777es7ta7bl7ishe7d7o7r7777 77 7 established or some sort state established ozesome sort pathway towards state established ozsome sort pathway towards that so of dathway towards that so that significant. we've also from hamas 7 from hamas leadership qggrgifrom hamas leadershio that plans relocate saying that plans to relocate — are a saying that plans to relocate . are a recipe for chaos tension in the region and and tension in the region and of course we heard from the un ambassador saying palestinian ambassador saying similar words there. we've also heard some republicans, we say. senatorjosh say. senator josh hawley should say. senatorjosh hawley saying he think it was z 77-— 7 b7e7st of united 7 b7est of united states the best use of united states resources to send a bunch of money to gaza. they have been about whether or not doubts about whether or not this plan would fall for it us this plan'wodld fatl for it us in the region. troops in the region. of course would likely see a of that would likely see a lot of opposition here. we're hearing opposition here; we�*re'hearing lot of feedback here. i say steve who is envoy the john's special envoy to the was on fox news, trying
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77cl7arify77 7 77 77 77clarify7thi7ngs.777 7 7 77 77clarify7thi7ngs.77—7—777 7 7 77 77cl7arify7t7hi7ngs.77—7—77s7te7v7e7 7 77 to clarify things. —— steve witkoff. he said he trying witkoff. he said he was trying to these lives better —— witkoff. he said he was trying to people's lives better —— vthesepeople�*s uvesbetter and said if there were different he said if there were different places further to places further palestinians to let them make that live, let them make that choice. again, lots of rchoice; again. lots of still to be answered. alsotell|ng 77 775157téiiih§7pfaieét7ifiia7ns and also telling palestinians that moving their land that movingfrom their land be greatly a" he ”ea" "f'ammah" ~ , ,, ~ them. how could this, the ther rhetoric ould this, the ther rhetoric wed this, the ther rhetoric we have, the a" he ”ea" "f'ammah" ~ , ,, ~ ther rhetoric we have been sort of rhetoric we have been hearing, impact ongoing hearing, impact the ongoing thatis hearing, impact the ongoing that is going on? ceasefire that is going on? is a question 7 ahead7 7 7 75h7aa73f7777 7 7 7 77ah7ead7of7t7i717i757 7 7 because ahead of this meeting we thought that would be a-enda item zz— another agenda item for netanyahu and trump, discussing the second of the the second phase of the ceasefire deal between hamas and israel and that is expected to be a difficult one. there members of netanyahu's are members of netanyahu's ruling coalition that don't want to go forward with this and7they prefer to plan and they wodld prefer to back into conflict, take on members of the remaining members of hamas and this is to also be and this is expected to also be and this is expected to also be
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a difficult of the a difficult part of the deal, the stage em] m drawin all of the idf mgizltiryggdrawing all of the idf within the soldiers within the gaza and it would also tercitogv and it would also the exchange of the involve the exchange of the remaining hostages being held remaininghostages beingheld hamas. will have to see by hamas. we will have to see but this :;:�*d well make =— those negotiations, the conversations hamas and conversations between hamas and israel, that more israel, that much more difficult, that much more difficult, that much more difficult as the process goes difficult, that much more difficult . iearle process goes difficult, that much more i difficult- proces.)es forward. carl nasman in dc. forward. carl nasman in _ dc- we i forward. carl nasman in i _ dc. we have forward. carl nasman in - _ dc. we have the professor. and non— unrwa professor. and a non— public policy profit public policy as based in organisation as well based in here is his 7 trumpet�*s reaction to trumpet�*s to take over trump. adding it likely 2—h: 7 i studied donad beeadse l have'stodied senald i have a... that beeadse l have'stodied senald i have at ; . that deals trump. i have a book that deals with his first administration. obviously what he has been saying for the past few days
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very clearly that he wanted verytlearly that he wanted he has palestinians displaced. he has been saying it more, selling it as a being, that as a hdmanitarian'being, that would as a hdmanitarian'being. that would get out as a hdmanitarian'being, that would get out until it they wedld get set until it ~~~ ~ w , be rebuilt and they back and he was selling back and he eras selling it come back andrhe was selling it little bit differently. this move and s— 7i—— of united states president of the united states in cold blood essentially proposing ethnic cleansing obviously — even israeli which obviously — even israeli leaders including those who leaderseineldding these whe to leaderseineleding these whe to cleansing the tar right ministers israeli government, 7 77 i7s7rae7l7i7government, they the israeli government, they been cautious to be have been cautious to be very careful in how they frame a question because of being war crimes and the intent itself. here is the president of the ltere is the president of the— ;— states not saying united states not only saying is proposing that is he is proposing that is a
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solution but permanent solution but also suggesting they would take over militarily. i doubt any military commanders and leaders, how this would be leaders; how this woold be but clearly, this implemented;betclearly, this beyond what i could have é- for our viewers, is cleansing; fer eer t'iewere— is as cleansing; fer eer t'iewers; is as the mass defined as the mass expulsion or killing of one of 7 group group in 77 7 77 77 77 777 77777 group in an area allegis group in an area by those of another. how do rhetoric is think this rhetoric is going to be received by the in gaza strip7 and the west the gaza strip and the west bank? , . , the gaza strip and the west bank? , ., , ., bank? first of all, it is not auoin bank? first of all, it is not going to — bank? first of all, it is not going to be _ bank? first of all, it is not going to be received - bank? first of all, it is not i going to be received - for bank? first of all, it is not - going to be received - for a of reasons. this idea that lot of reasons. this idea that, will be removed the because my people are world because my people are going to inhabit it. it is
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geing'te inhabit it; se it is thatis geing'te inhabit it; se it is that is the uninhabitable, that is the reason they have to permanently move and then it going move and then it is going to be... inaudible. most is hard to take it seriously it is hard to take it seriously all the with all the contradictions except the fact that it is going for —— coming from the 775—2 72-52 7 7 ofthe president sf the assent of 777 77 77of the7 p7re7si7t7lent of the mouth of the president of the united states. public opinion united states. public apinian will united states. public epinien will reject, united states. paelia apinian will reject, certainly clearly will reject, certainly in gaza. analysts were ——7: — -—*: �*it is going é �*it is going to 7 7 �*it is géing to ;a 7 earlier it is going to drop a site that mightjeopardise earlier it is going to drop a site that no htjeopardise 2,2 earlier it is going to drop a site that no doubt )ardise 2,2 earlier it is going to drop a site that no doubt because 32; earlier it is going to drop a site that no doubt because the seasefire as deuét b°=eu==thfi ~ , ~ thing, what was in it for one thing, what was in it for is it the israeli ”am" is it the lees,“ ——————— —— —— — w if hamas is it the '=3el 777”— 7, ~ 7 w if in hamas is it tits heel r———~— —r ~ — ~— if in fact hamas is it tits ifaeh f f , ,, v ”— if in fact the m- fists, l’fw”, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ;fiiié " 7 ofthehiostag’e’si " ;feiié hiostaig’e’siaifter ofiwould;taigiesiaifterflflfi ;f’liédld beiesiaifterfiflfi lftsjia'lqzsa’feeewm which they would be a resumption �* war either or the z 7 or the ljnited 7 or the ljnited states and israel or the united states and the expulsion of the palestinians, what do they have? yes, ithink palestinians, what do they have? yes, i think it is going to jeopardise have? yes, i think it is going tojeopardise the have? yes, i think it is going to jeopardise the relations our countries, it is
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'eopardise their us jeopardise their us standing to jeopardise their us standing in the middle east and especially palestinians. make the about 1 {bey they were , , they were a , , they were a particular , irent they were a partieelarm , ,, , from irent they were a pertiselarrr— , ~ , from prime irent they were a partieelarm , ,, , from prime minister 7 7 netanyahu? i ben'amin netanyahu? i was for ben'amin netanyahu? i was fiforthose- ben'amin netanyahu? i was t for those very - wagghijngfor those very the watchijngfor those very the american cleselyfi and the american with cleselye and the american with israel, cleselye ana the american with israel, he partnership with israel, he has been wanting that for and been wanting that for years and even during the first trump administration the administnatianthe trump's during the first instinct during the first administration was to resist that, he didn't to be that, he didn't want to be drawn into a �* but we know gyayvn into a war but we know the parameters �* israel that the parameters of israel would like to see that occurring but there were a lot people notjust trump of people notjust trump himself but around him including vice intlssilnn the iitfltfifrfl'sifint said they 'neleei'ne the �*e'eeeree'eent said they want to be whe said they dent—want ta be into �* with whe said they dent—want ta be into �*with iran so drawn into war with iran so the is, would he put question is, would he put meaning trump, put himselmeeaning trump, put �*on slope war anyway? he sort of
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towards war anyway? he sort of steps on that encouraged by ’teeeentt�*e�*en�*eseaei�* lee who ’teeeentt�*e�*en�*eseaei�* ee who will be ’teeeentt�*e�*en�*esegei�* ee h 7 who will be saying it netanyahu whe wilt—besaying it be prevented a nuclear inaudible, weapons... inaudible, hard sanctions. if that doesn't we will explore work, we will explore something else. that is exactly what — work, we will explore something else is hat is exactly what — work, we will explore something else is a at is exactly what — work, we will explore something else is a slippery :tly what — work, we will explore something else is a slippery slope. |t — work, we will explore something else is a slippery slope. the that is a slippery slope. the are not intentions are not geind te unless there intentions are not going to unless there a work unless there is a political solution are going to harden israelis are going to harden their eee e ee trump has israelis are going to harden their ee left e trump has israelis are going to harden their ee left the trump has israelis are going to harden their ee left the idea jmp has israelis are going to harden their ee left the idea that has israelis are going to harden their ee left the idea that they already left the idea that—they .-.. — .- cc- — .-. — anyway so i worry are close anyway so i worry about the us being j 5 war with tv war with iran. drawn into war with iran. youssef monai is head of the palestine israel programme and senior fellow at palestine israel programme and seniorfellow at arab senior fellow at the arab centre. he told me what he took from that news conference. away from that news conference. i think we to in what we are e in dohald a convicted felon in donald trump meeting with an trump meeting withan indicted
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�* criminal trump meetingwithan indicted �*criminal in warcriminal in benjamin and we war criminal in benjamin and we shouldn't what out ee�*eheeh�*: ehe'eeeef�*e�*ele'he ee what out of eefeh¥e 3??th efififieeffiij e? 7 w meeting ewe“¥e £1;th efififieeffiij e? 7 w meeting is ewe“¥e £1;th eef'eeeetaf ef w w meeting is a conspiracy to this meeting is a conspiracy to commit crimes and commit even fdrther crimes and the words of donald trump —e -e of has amounted to this of course has amounted to calls for the ethnic cleansing of the gaza strip and the imperialist american takeover, the annexation of the gaza strip which is latest sort eeidea . . . wideato . . . idea to come from strip which is the latest sort of idea to come from donald of idea to come from donald trump this evening. this needs trump this evening. this needs treme this eveninatre-hie "eeee—~——eeee~ee—ee be a to be a forceful —— forcefully treme this eveninatee-hie eeeee e e e ee e be a forceful —— forcefully to be a forceful —— forcefully rejected by any of a rejected by any person of a conscience throughout the rejectedehyeanprersan of a the people ew =:ho world, reasonable people who m people who ww in internaftional le who believe in international law in internaftional law �*ho kind believe in international law and human rights and do not and human rights and do not —e to see aéworld that is want to see a world that is simply governed by mafioso 's overned governed by mafioso 's simply governed by mafioso 's who think that they can shuffle who think that they can shuffle simply governed by mafioso 's who think ti around can shuffle simply governed by mafioso 's populations around and take who think ti around and shuffle simply governed by mafioso 's who think ti around and take le populations around and take over other people's land and over other people's land and countries. this might be the countries. this might be the
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