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the us will take over the gaza strip and will do a job strip and we will do a job with it too. we will own saudi arabia condemns the plans behind the deadliest mass shooting in the country's history. we'll be live in washington and sweden for the very latest. also in the programme: and wildlife wonders: i'm sally bundock.
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president trump and the israeli prime minister, president trump put forward a dramatic shift in policy on the middle east he told reporters elsewhere in the region. to create what he called "the riviera of the middle east". the us will take over the gaza strip and we do a job with strip and we will do a job with it we will it and it too, we will own it and be for all responsible for dismantling all the dangerous unexploded bombs weapons on the site, the 7: the site and get rid level the site and get rid of destroyed buildings, create an economic development that will
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supply unlimited of supply unlimited numbers of and housing for the people supply unlimited numbers of the 1d housing for the people supply unlimited numbers of the area. ising for the people supply unlimited numbers of the area. a ng for the people supply unlimited numbers of the area. a ng f job, 5 people supply unlimited numbers of the area. a ng f job, do eople of the area. a realjob, do something different. cannot go of the area. a realjob, do some if ng different. cannot go of the area. a realjob, do some if ng i go erent. cannot go of the area. a realjob, do some if ng i go erent. it nnot go of the area. a realjob, do some if ng i go erent. it willt go at the same way has gig! at the same way it has for last 100 egg at the same way it has for last 100 years. mr fig ind president, ladies and gentlemen, israelwill the gentlemen, israel will end the by gentlemen, israel will end the - by- the _ gentlemen, israel will end the �* by the the 77— z:— —77_ be n be the victory of israel will be the victory— victory of israel will be the victory of israel will be the victory of america. will not victory of america. we will not only— victory of america. we will not only win — victory of america. we will not only win the war, working we only win the war, working _ we will- only win the war, working we will win the together, we will win the peace _ together, we will win the peace. with your leadership, mr and our 7 w 7 ' fl" wp—tnership, believe we will forge a i believe we will forge a brilliant future for our region and — brilliant future for our region and bring _ brilliant future for our region and bring our great alliance to the occupied west bank. we are discussing that with many of your representatives. . , are represented
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many of your representatives. . . are represented well you are represented very well and people like the idea, but we have not taken a position but we 73.517 v27qi7iieq77777 7 7 7 7 7 77 73.7117viii/7117173553597 7 7 7 7 77 but devil be7makir17g7an77 7 77 probably/7777 77 77777777777p7robably7 that announcement probably on that very specific topic over the next four weeks. 0ur north america editor sarah smith iam in press i am in press briefing room in the white house and i came out of that conference out of that press conference witiz.... . out of that press conference white—s f trump and the prime 7 77prime7minister. 7 i’f% 3.|s1r¥ing is trying to digest everybody is' trying to d igést they everybody is'try'mg'to digest they heard. trump everybody is' trying to digest they heard. trump told us iiiiiét tits? fiéétd; trump tfild us wants to fii�*iéi if??? fiééfii trump elli us wants to take over he wants america to take over the gaza strip.— the gaza strip. the us will take over _ the gaza strip. the us will take over the _ the gaza strip. the us will take over the gaza - the gaza strip. the us will i take over the gaza - and take over the gaza strip and we will. a — take over the gaza strip and we will. a job— take over the gaza strip and we will a job it. he take over the gaza strip and we will i a job - it— will do a “ob with it. he said, we will i it. — will do a “ob with it. he said, we will i it, be _ will do a “ob with it. he said, | we willi it, be responsible we will own it, be responsible for getting rid of bombs and weaponry, raising all the 777 7a destroyed buildings to the ground and rebuilding it. that time according to during that time according to him, 1.8
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him, the 1.8 million palestinian who live in gaza be housed —= "tettttnt; 7 77he7thi7nksjorda7n77 77h; tittnt; jordanand77777 he thinksjordan and egypt, in he thinksjordan and egypt. is convinced those countries a-ree agree take them and will agree to take them and then, once gaza has been rebuilt, he did not say the would any e...“ . to return. 77 to return. 7 said it right to return. he said it would be for the people of the world to live and world to live there and didn't tell us what the long—term future would be for palestinians who had previously future would be for pale: in tians who had previously future would be for pale: in tians v a) had previously future would be for pale: in tians v a lot id previously future would be for pale: in tians v a lot to jreviously future would be for pale: in tians v a lot to jrevi in ;ly lived in gaza. a lot to take in it is news. no because it is huge news. no wonder standing him, wonder standing beside him, benjamin netanyahu said he was the best friend in the white he saudi arabia has reaffirmed its stance that it will not of a palestinian state. the country's foreign ministry said this position is "firm and unwavering". let's speak to
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an extraordinary press conference as sarah was senferense as sarah. was, .. . sharp intakes of relaying, sharp intakes of breath when president trump began to address the press. i think you probably hear think you could probably hear jaws in this a fundamental, drastis shift ians pelisy; ~ . . . we from donald that press conference saying at that press conference saying not only move 2 million not only move nearly 2 million palestinians potentially out of area but then for the us to the area but then for the us to come in, this land own it in and own it in donald trump's words. this is �*away from words. this is so far away from what we have from —ast previous presidents, the last president biden was president, president biden was clear about there to be clear about there needing to be a two state saudi an important one, we ==: heard from 7 also heard from the hamas leadership, saying the plans to
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relocate gazans be a for chaos and tension, recipe for chaos and tension, also heard from the un we also heard from the un ambassador we also heard from the um �* words 1bassador we also heard from the um �*words againstor we also heard from the um �* words against this similar words against this policy, a of pelisy. a lot at reastian ~~ ... the us, within the us, politicians nearly all sounding off, nearly all have been against it democrats have been against it and ”21; a democrats have been against it and fire; a few and there are a few republicans as well, senators criticising plan. 0ne as well, senators criticising plan. one said did not think it was the best use of us resources and there are the us resources and there are a lot of questions, the legality of it is big one, legality of it is a big one, but then you look at the us resources it would take to pull off plan. we be 77 about us military talking about us military troops, boots on the ground seems to 7 seems7to fly in there and that seems to fly in there and that seems to fly in the face of what donald trump's normal global which normal global policies, which is america first. he has been reticent to involve the us in conflicts and this would, if
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were to happen. bring the much deeper 7 7 much deeper into 7 much deeper into this7 us mush. deeper late this ' " www' * us mush. deeper late this ' .. ww w us mush deeper into this ' w ww w conflict- .... -- .. - this president off 7 7 the77 the77 seriefi—te effthfifie“ at the conference? this eerie—t; efftheee“ at the conference? this is the press conference? this is the president who has talked about over the panama 777 77 7 7 7 asking buying greenland, making canada the 51st state of america. many wondering to what extent we are wondering to what extent we see this as serious policy 01’ 7or president 7 7or president trump shift or president trump talking off the cuff. i shift or president trump talking off the cuff. is dh�*ficult to is difficult to know at this it is difficult to know at this point how the present 7—: at times we reading is. at times we saw him reading �*a piece of paper off a piece of paper or can speak hours on end from his own thoughts, but at the same time. you look at some of his if you look at some of his state the team he has put state and the team he has put in place when comes to the z= east, this is not coming middle east; this—is not coming of nowhere. like
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out of nowhere. someone like mike huckabee is ambassador to israel, someone who even refuses to use the term west bank when referring to the territory. he always says bank when referring to the territo and e always says bank when referring to the territo and samaria, ;ays bank when referring to the territo and samaria, the judaea and samaria, the physical terms, judaea and samaria, the physicalterms, is judaea and samaria, the physical terms, is pro israel and would support the annexation of west bank settlements, considered 777777ij|777 ”a, a. 777777ufi17fulin7g7s7,7 77 7 ufii7fulin7g7s7,7s7o 7 listings; this 777777ufi17fulin7g7s7,7 s7o7 this does a basis terms of his have a basis in terms of his and we even administration and we even heard benjamin netanyahu saying this has been the most friendly president 7 president israel 7 president israel we 7 president israel we have7 us president tolsrael we have �* seen. us president tolsraelwe have �*seen. i it will be ever seen. i think it will be an interesting couple of days and weeks when we learn more information about this, lfiffiffieflfifi see-sf {h's when we hear even e:- members of his party him about how questioning him about how serious he is, but one last to say president serious he is, but one last tc before president serious he is, but one last tc before he president serious he is, but one last tc before he was ;ident serious he is, but one last tc before he was president, trump, before he was president, he did a lot of real estate
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dev7elo7pme7nt, 7 7 dev7elo7pme7nt, 7a 7 dev7elo7pme7nt, 7a lot ideals, developmentra lot of terminology are hearing him, it seems him, it s7e7ems he 7 him, it s7e7ems he is 7 from him, it seems he is treating gaza strip as a 7 deal, not necessarily property deal, not necessarily area of land that has been an area oflandthathas been fought over four fiereelg fought'eir’erfa’dr’ " .-. fiereelg fought'eir’erfa’dr’ " w of reaction to - end the lot of reaction to this end the world, saudi arabia its stance and we will et that into others. we will get that into detail, but before we let you 90. detail, but before we let you go, talk us the israeli 7 7 agenda. there the 7 the press 7 the press conference we i talking 5 conference we i talking about75rence we i talking about75rer he we i talking about75rer he had �* meeti77ngs �* meetings with other 7 7 theethgghhh’ other key other meetings with other key members of the team of other meetings with other key members trump. eam of other meetings with other key members trump.-- other meetings with other key members trump.- president trump. ahead of this he was president trump. ahead of this j - he was - steve meeting he was speaking steve witkoff, president envoy the middle special envoy to the middle and he has more meetings extended 7 extended trip 7 extended trip to 7 extended trip to be 7 extended trip to be in7 and eetended his trip td be in ...s.s..-s....s..s..u... lon-er. and extended his trip td be in ~ ~ ... ~~ ~ . longer. he will meet washington longer. he will meet hegseth, new with pete hegseth, the new secretary of defence. that secreta ry of defence. that is secretarynf defence. that is expected tomorrow. meeting is expected tomorrow. he also has meetings top
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—:e the7new top republicans;so the new top and mikejohnson, the senator andwmike'johnson. the of the house, the 7: -7 7 77 77 thétefiiihita 7 77 77 thefe.7wh7ile7t7hat is meeting is still scheduled, we who —— hear more from mr could who —— hear more from mr netanyahu. it detent’ahu. !t was interestind— .. . .. coming detanyahu. !t was interestindrr ~ . .. coming into detanyahu. !t was interestindrr ~ . ~ coming into this we tho77ught there would meeting we thoughttherewould three topics, hoping be three topics, hoping to learn about the ceasefire deal, at a stage. 7 7 7 ii. got men7tioned, all hardly got mentioned, all those topics, iran, saudi arabia, topics. tran, saudi arabia. by topics, tran, saudi arabia. by what topics. tran, saudi arabia. by what we topics, tran, saudi arabia. by what we heard overshadowed by what we heard from trump, his ideas from—president trump. his ideas suggestions for what in gaza. and director of middle eastern studies at the university of san francisco, stephen zunes. what is your reaction to that press conference where
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president trump said the ta ke take over own the gaza will take over and own the gaza strip? it will take over and own the gaza stri - ? , . will take over and own the gaza stri? , . , strip? it is rather shocking, especially _ strip? it is rather shocking, especially a _ strip? it is rather shocking, especially a - who l especiallya president who on an america first ze= 7 the rhetoric we haven't heard expansionism we haven't heard him inaudible --we expansionism we haven't heard him inaudible ——we have free-en h— "s'i'm'd' e site's l:.e heard and free-en l.w�* ".'£"""d' e site's l:.e heard and —— frc'“ l— “ji'm'd' f we lee heard and —— heard free-en l.w�* ".'£"""d' e site's l:.e heard and —— heard since not heard and —— heard since the previous century. it is unfortunately the extreme that is a narrative that this is a colonial process, they to colonial process, they want to cleanse palestinian people cleanse the palestinian people and seems to align themselves with extreme within politics and puts in a israeli politics and puts in a very dangerous new role for the which, despite united states which, despite the experiences in iraq and seems to be �* another 7 to... for another middle eastern entanglement. . . . .-
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has eastern entanglement. sated, has its it will with without the a one reaction, a of state, one reaction, a lot of reaction across the arab world. does this 7777doe757th7is7do7 77 77 7 does7th7is7 ti§7f§7r77 7 titésthis do7fo7rthe 7 what does this do for the ceasefire process which is at a critical phase? they should be negotiating terms of negotiating the terms of phase two at the moment.— two at the moment. even the states two at the moment. even the - states does _ two at the moment. even the - states does not - two at the moment. even the - states does not take l united states does not take over gaza, the two state ie solution is threatened by an israeli government that refuses to consider the possibility. —— = -:: see; .ad m and us ambassador the united nations real estate agement everything 7 everything should that believes everything should to the dues. ———— jewish belong to the dues. ———— jewish people. it is in trouble already. people. it is in trouble already-— people. it is in trouble alread . ~ . , ., already. what about phase two and how it _ already. what about phase two and how it will _ already. what about phase two and how it will be _ already. what about phase two l
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and how it will be implemented, the difficult part where israeli troops have to leave the difficult part where israel obviously veto leave of gaza, obviously the exchange of hostages etc. hostages continues, etc. p .~- seems to hostages continues, etc. phase; - seems to be _ hostages continues, etc. phase; - seems to be going - hostages continues, etc. phase - seems to be going fairly i one seemsto hegoing fairly despite hiccups. 777 ay may7 in trouble two may be in trouble especially given the trump seems to be administration seems to be willing to back the more elements 7 elements within the hardline elements within the government sceptical ceasefire in the ceasefire agreement in the place. if israel does not withdraw 7 777777withd7raw7from77 7 77 7777withd7raw7from7the77 actually withdraw from the keeps the territory, keeps the military presence there, hamas will and other continue... and other palestinians will continue to and the work very lestand the work sduld tier�*.’ resume. .-tand.t.. "is. e? resume. ~ ~ .-tand.t.. sww we? resume. ~ .. ., , , now in terms of 27 now in terms of the iam reading, practicalities? iam reading, we have a live on the bbc 3111177 and77 the 7 77 777whi£hith7e777 which7is 1e which7is updating application which is updating all the time and i'm reading
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the secretary of state, all the time and i'm reading the seci who of state, all the time and i'm reading the seci who has itate, all the time and i'm reading the seci who hasjust , all the time and i'm reading the seci who has just put marco rubio, who hasjust put on x, united states stands on x, the united states stands ready to lead and make our so beautiful again. this the us o7f of state, making secretary of state. making to the make america again slogan key aspect ereet distill“. eleeen ii h§§§§§§e€7 7 7777 777777 the areas elitist“? elneen e! besaeeeif’ 7 7777 777777 the trump presidential of the trump presidential since 2016. campaign since 2016. while these long—term plans are being “wee; �*lwwlterw w'zwi ewe leww out th7ere, 7 out th7ere, as 7 out th7ere, as i 7 out th7ere, as i mentioned, 7 ele—e l—eaee— 4.7— see ease very here, as i mentioned, very s7hort—term, entioned, 7 very s7hort—term, anti very. 7 thesersehfirtzterm the eerie reality thesersehfirtzterm the sens reality in thesersehfirtzterm the eerie reality in gaza thesersehfirtzterm the sens reality in gaza is thesersehfirtzterm the eerie reality in gaza is that term reality in gaza is that” . ”x- - . .-. is term reality in gaza is that” . s--- - . .-. is cessation term reality in gaza is that” . z--- - . .-. is cessation of there is a cessation of hostilities at the moment but while the ex— change of hostages has been taking place and palestinian prisoners and to their released and returning to their families, there has been a real �*e'ee'e' there has bee-e. e rest w . w l w" wlw of �*sm'e' �*lee has bee" s set w . w l w ww of the �*sm'e' �*lee has bee-e e est z. . l l .-. is. of the and �*sm'e' �*lee lee. lee-e e est z. . l l .-. is. of the and the sense of the strength and the presence of hamas and again that was a big, key of
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that wasabig. key part of netanyahu's 777777would7 7 7 wew’ ...... woll'dsb'e'sl" w " 2 would he eliminated. hamas would be eliminated. this phase one, it baring this phase ene itwis w ww ww w w . clear baring this phase ene itwis www ww w w . clear that it is not very clear that it is not happening, so what do you see in the happening in the next few weeks and months in the light of this and months in’the light of this conference? it and months irrthetightofthis - m— press conference? it is hard to sa . press conference? it is hard to say- hamas — press conference? it is hard to say. hamas cannot _ press conference? it is hard to say. hamas cannot be - press conference? it is hard to i say. hamas cannot be physically eliminated. indeed, bombing eliminated. indeed, the bombing and incursions into gaza actually created more fighters we re were not necessarily whoéwerejnot necessarily an aligned with ideologically aligned with hamas the terrorist and hamas and the terrorist and extremist agenda but fighting 7 77ki7lli7rfg7 77 7 77ki7lli7rfg7their777 7 77 7 77ki7lli7rfg7their7f7ami7lie7s people killing their families and invading their the somehow hamas be idea somehow hamas could be eliminated with resumption 77777re7s7u7mption of 77777re757u7mption of7the 7 77777re757u7mption of7the war 7 77777re757u7mption of the war is the resumption of the war is rather dubious, but the key issue, is to... in humanitarian aid, bringing in humanitarian aid, some kind of longer getting some kind of longer term but as long as
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team ceasefire. but as long-as palestinians are denied the the palestinians are denied the right of a viable two state 01’ or other 7 7 or other rights, solution or other basic rights, will extremism and it will encourage extremism and this attitude somehow american power directly occupying power either directly occupying the territory or enabling the territory er enabling ~ . ~ ~ ~ to do it, israel to do it,wwilleomehow peace and i bring peace and stability i think is frankly naive. thine is transls'naise5erite'in more than most that is knows more than most that is hard to keep people down very hard to iseep peddle deeen .--- —————— h... they do want to have very hard to keep people ddeen .--- z-.-.- "e. they do want to have a if they do not want to have a foreign control.— foreign control you for thank you for your reaction to that conference at house. as i have white house. as [have we have a live page mentioned, we have a live page updating on all the latest updating on all the very latest on which, of course, is on this. whish. of rflueeee— — all the time. you the secretary 7 77 777the7 777s7e7c7re7tary7of7 77 77 7 7 77 the secretary of state, 7 77 see the os e�*cnetarsfefetafi 7' rubio, who see the os e�*cnetarsfsfetafi 7' rubio, who has made a marco rubio, who has made a comment on social comment on the social media platform what he thinks platform x about what he thinks of all of this.
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shock over what happened. yes, of course. when _ shock over what happened. yes, of course. when i _ shock over what happened. yes, of course. when i went - shock over what happened. yes, of course. when i went to - shock over what happened. is: of course. when i went to bed, the whole town was probably —:7 tsheti 7 tobed whitish, to bed worried, in 7 to bed worried, in grie7f, a different town i'm so it is a different town i'm waking up to. so it is a different town i'm waking up te— so it is a different town i'm waking up to. polleesaythe - perpetrator is i waking up to. polleesaythe - perpetrator is among i waking up to. pol% - perpetrator is among the male perpetrator is among the dead. . , , es, the m dead. ttazszthaueehghfismett - yes. tm dead. ttazszthaueehghfismett i press ls. tm terms 7 tww— w7 terms of why or 7 terms of why or how 7 terms of why or how all 7 in terms ofwhyor how all questions now be these questions will now be asked. , ., ., ., asked. there is a lot of speculation _ asked. there is a lot of speculation on - asked. there is a lot of speculation on social . asked. there is a lot of - speculation on social media but asked. there is a lot of - specu made m social media but asked. there is a lot of - specu made a social media but asked. there is a lot of - specu made a statement iia but asked. there is a lot of - specu made a statement last ut 7 and do77n't 7 and do7n't see and don't see evidence motive and don't see evidence for it being an ideologisal . rumour social media now. it will 7 on social media now. it will probably take weeks before we if we can no, know, if we can no, since the suspect now dead. maybe we augeestisnow’dead. mavae we never know why will never know exactly why he did it. , ., .
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did it. the place where this happened _ did it. the place where this happened was _ did it. the place where this happened was an _ did it. the place where this happened was an adult - did it. the place where this - happened was an adult education centre, is that right? that happened was an adult education centre, is that right?— centre, is that right? that is rirht. if centre, is that right? that is right- if you _ centre, is that right? that is right. if you i not - centre, is that right? that is right. if you i not make - centre, is that right? that is. right. if you i not make high right. if you do not make high you don't your school, if you don't get your inaudible high school, grades inaudible high school, you get a second chance in this it is also campus for plate. lt is also samples for ..-w.........w...z for plate. lt is also samples for . . ~ ~ ~ ~~ for immigrants, plate. lt is also tampos for . . ~ ~ ~ ~~ for immigrants, a swedish for immigrants, a place to swedish you are new to learn swedish if you are new sweden. , history, - in history, therefore extremely shocking as you say, yet there is isn't 1678 0
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