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protesters gather outside the worlds largest aid agency — usaid — after thousands of its employees glad you could join me. sending troops to gaza — after the us president several us allies on wednesday condemned president trump's stated plan to "take over" gaza to rebuild it as "the riviera of the middle east".
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has called "a demolition site" this is what is left of the gaza strip after 15 months of war. more than 2 million palestinians live here. british prime minister sir keir starmer to rebuild. and the un's chief, antonio guterres, netanyahu at the white house. with kentucky senator rand paul posting on x, "the pursuit for peace should be that of the israelis
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can you confirm that under the president's plans for gaza, on their land will be allowed to do so? as i've said repeatedly, it is a demolition site, and we will keep you apprised of updates as we receive them. almost the entire population of gaza has been displaced by the conflict. for those now returning, the journey home is just
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the start of a deeply uncertain future. allowed independent access to gaza. lucy williamson sent this report from jerusalem. where donald trump sees a future riviera of the middle destroyed them, dropped by israel during 15 months of war. more than half a million people have returned to their homes in gaza's northern areas since the ceasefire began. defiance still their first response to the fantasies of a president and the realities of home. after he made israel destroy our houses in gaza, we will clean up the rubble, sit on it and live,
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as a state. so just how realistic is donald trump's suggested plan to take over the gaza strip? can donald trump really take ownership of gutter and turn it the riviera of middle into the riviera of the middle £533. w7 7 ssa “ob gaza strip and we will do a job with it. will own it. this with it, we will 9er it” ' ' the area are the 7 the strip ethe abeut, the strip cm. the around abeut, the strip eh the around 25 miles abeut, the strip eh the roughly round 25 miles 7 around n 7 7 around2 housed swamp. around 2 million housed in sliver, of displaced been displaced internally by the war between hamas and israel. a huge amount of damage has been done infrastructure
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�* the past 15 months. �*the past 15 months. we over the past 15 months. we gaza and up under us could gaza and up under us ownership as part of every construction plan? the short answer is the experts we spoke 7 such a plan would te thihkfs’efh epiefi. weuiei clear violations of involve clear violations of international law. firstly article 7 article 2a 7 article 2a of 7 article 2a of the 7 under article 2a of the un charter the use �*force is charter the use of force is illegal. members agreed to international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity of tetrttf—pl’iél— integrity pf independence of any state. the idea that this would benefit the _ state. the idea that this would benefit the population - state. the idea that this would benefit the population of - benefit the population of gaza or another population is legally cempletely meaningless, is simply legally cempletely rheahihgless, is simply parameter to use it is simply parameter to use military force on the territory another state particularly ef another stateparticularly �* to conquer of another statepartiaa�*larly �*to conquer or annex in order to conquer or annex that territory.— situation in which see a situation in which donald trump could get a agreement from leaders in gaza. strip from leaders in gaza. the strip is run by name, on group is run by name, eight on group designated a terrorist organisation by number of gigagjsatjon by number of including made it clear they and uk. that made it clear they won't to takeover, won't agree to a takeover, coined the plan ridiculous. the
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of it has been rejected idea of it has been rejected by palestinian authority which the palestinian authority which governs part of the occupied west bank. israel cannot make the decision to seek territory in gaza according to legal experts who say it has no right as an occupying power. don't 5 77 don't have 5 77 don't have many: 77 the specifics ofjohn's about the specifics ofjohn's proposal but this is what he set about moving residence out 77 trump. of gutter — like donald trump. i think we can resettle and we do it in where the can. do it in areas where the currently say no. go do it la areas where the - currently say no. leaders currently say no. the geneva convention, - leaders currently say no. the geneva convention, a - leaders currently say no. the geneva convention, a of genevarflanvention, a set of laws, prevent displacement. this is ihdieidoat mmaee transfers as this is ihdisidost mmass transfers as well as forced transfers as well as are deportations are protected persons from occupied d§i59n5from occupied | d§i59n5from occupied i prohibit it of their motive. regardless of their motive. it's a violation of rules which been created bi; states. have been created by states, and it is a violation of and
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international agreements and customary rules of international law which prohibit the forced displacement also not clear where any? ~ , go. trump dis ptacement woo id go: tm m p they could disptacement wouldgoflmmp they could be housed suggested they could be housed in pots ofjordan, injured and nearby 7 �* nearby countries arab other nearby countries but arab states the idea and previously said it threatens the region stability and 77 prospects undermines prospects for peace. evenif even if donald trump ignored breaches of international even if donald trump ignored i for ches of international even if donald trump ignored ifor any; of international even if donald trump ignored i for any plan iternational even if donald trump ignored ifor any plan to rnational even if donald trump ignored ifor any plan to be tional law, for any plan to be recognised, that need the backing of international community. there is little sign the un and of that today, the un and many of that today, the un and many of the us as eu and western instead a state solution which would involve �* a solution which would involve �*a palestinian the formation of a palestieiae— , a e , he” ,, , alongside israel. thank you �* taking thank you �*taking the time to be with us this evening. i'd to be with os this evening. id to 7 to be with os this evening. id to begin getting your ,— —— twithi , e——— ,, see ,, 7 rwith' i to h n 7 rwith' i to arab? n tansnsith rsaafds'ts'sr’ab reacting to the plan americans reacting'to'the plan the us from the us president for
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american and american ownership of gaza and also moving palestinians out, however feeling?— however feeling? well, look, the president's _ however feeling? well, look, the president's comments . however feeling? well, look, i the president's comments were delusional, they were dangerous and i there were and i think there were frankly. total disgusting, frankly. total contempt for palestinian for the desire to humanity, for the desire to remain home, for remain in their home; fer they suffered. everything they have suffered. not only in the last 15 months for many decades now living excel 5 77 excel from 77 excel from �* homes 77 i currently �* homes which , i currently in �* homes which , i currently in israel'nes which , i currently in israel — as which , are currently in israel — sale. i also think it mackinac sale. i also think it is dangerous because it puts a is dang-arses besaosefi'itp’ots'a' ""*"”'*’*”"’*’ on is dang-erode besaose'itp’ots'a' " ' " ' ” ' on the is dang-arses besaoss'itp’ots'a' " ' " ' ” ' on the back of the boll�*s—eye on the basheeft—her ~ ~ . , ~ states. we , , joeee as; z"; i h 7 joe biden enabling from during joe biden enabling a genocide to now according 55 -e who is 7 "missing” 7 " 77 who is going to 77 77 who is going to engineer zzz-z: zzz-7: the completion of the genocide, it is never delusional because it is never to happen. the going to happen. the are not going to palestinians are not going to leave jordan and palestinians are not going to leavejordan and each of never agree to participate willneveragree to participate this attic cleansing process in “u at“ "es”"s se'e“ fl” ”fl .. " ....- saudi arabia 7 not
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of course there were many second torts and this was a of course there were many second election d this was a of course there were many second election for iis was a of course there were many second election for most; a painful election for most people in my even iii—7 those who supported harris, it we lived was difficult. we lived the red genocide, we through a genocide, we lived through a nightmare of e-ee 77 thetéid777 7 77 the cold insensitivity 77 the cold insensitivity of 77 and the cold insensitivity of the biden administration in what was happening just people. harris i infuriated people. harris i know is different, i spoke with 777andfelt77777777777 77 and felt strongly that she her and fslt’strs’ngly’thst'shs’ 777 it, her and fslt’strs’ngly’thist'shs’ 777 it, but she did not got it, but she did not distance herself from the and people they had a choice, we re were some of us who said there were some of us who said yes you should no matter how you perceive her be, bad you perceive her to be, trump will be worse. but there were people couldn't trump will be worse. but there were peopli depressed n't trump will be worse. but there were peopli depressed press that themselves depressed press that letter, manyjust stayed home, those who for trump did —: for many reasons. i always so for many reasons. i always joke, i say every life a little so for many reasons. i always joke musti every life a little so for many reasons. i always joke must fallery life a little so for many reasons. i always joke must fall and fe a little so for many reasons. i always joke must fall and wet little so for many reasons. i always joke must fall and we havet rain must fall and we have republicans in the arab community were always about 25—
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republican. but 7 were 2-— who switched 7 7 77 77who7switch7ed7a7nd 7 7 7 7 7 77 771th; jitthedahd voted 7 even though they are and there were there and there were there that nd there were there that caused e were there that caused them 5 issues there that caused them to do so. olly was an effort to punish the democrats, i think it was a to do so. they it was a mistake to do so. they and some stayed home and a as many as these fake projected 7 because polls projected boaters because theyjust polls projected boaters because they just didn't feel they couldn't bring themselves to bow for harris. was a step at us what they did. come back to an earlier point the fact that countries have already etcoressedetheefact—tisat—theyr— — — .-. ve he m e ntly etcoressedetheefact—tisat—theyr—— — .-. vehemently opposed to this. are vehemently opposed to this. i �* whether you are vehemently opposed to this. i �*whether you think i wonder whether you think any scenario in which i wonder whether you think you y scenario in which i wonder whether you think you y sc( at rio in which i wonder whether you think you y sc( at donald 1ich i wonder whether you think you y sci at donald trump's when you look at donald trump's policy of late is been foreignrpoliey of late is been letters and on 7 on the 77 on the likes pressure on the likes of canada, colombia, where canada, colombia, mexico, where he tries to do something �*in the 77 77ih7th7e7 eddie 77ih7th7e7 kindle to
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pressure tactics with use pressure tactics with regards to plan and taking regards to this plan and taking in palestinians? i regards to this plan and taking in palestinians?— in palestinians? i don't know how many — in palestinians? i don't know how many other _ in palestinians? i don't know how many other ways - in palestinians? i don't know how many other ways i - in palestinians? i don't know how many other ways i can l how many other ways i can put it other than no, no, no. how many other ways i can put it othe is han no, no, no. how many other ways i can put it othe is not no, no, no. how many other ways i can put it othe is not going i, no. how many other ways i can put it othe is not going to to. how many other ways i can put it othe is not going to be put jordan is not going to be put at risk, egyptology be at at risk, egyptology will be at risk and saudi arabia as 7 777777i7t777 will 2175787 7 777777i7t777 7w7i7l7l 21.728 be wealthy as it is will also be risk if it participated at risk if it participated in an ethnic cleansing scam. i do an ethnic cleansing scam. i do the whole thing is i really 7 i really don't think —— trump even m of this. i think anything of this. i think what it is is part of his carnival it is is partef his carnival game of misdirection huckster gameof misdirection he does here with does he like he does here with does he really care about this? than you have focused on this than you won't get us focused on the 77 i is doing which is real stuff is doing which is going to screw the goingto screw the middle—class working—class with tax e.— 5-— 77the rich tax benefits for the rich and tax burdens for here he is burdens for them. here he is saying i'm to do this to
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gaza the body is really doing is trying to let is tryingrto let denjamin off the hook by a focus that will never happen instead of on phase one and two three completely withdraw from gaza and the gaza and begin the rehabilitation and reconstruction of gaza. that's we ought to be focused on, instead we are focused on this delusional idea of pushing of --eole out of gaza and noise of people out of gaza and frankly what will happen benjamin netanyahu will say benjamin neta nyahu will say they benjamin netanyahu will say they rejected the idea, the rejected it we egyptians rejected it and we continue to finish the will continue to finish the job. we will be focusing on the ceasefire so that ceasefire so something that isn't really real focused on
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the wrong direction on the reconstruction rehabilitationsa, argument made id trump the argument made id trump administration that people administration isthatpeople those conditions is living in those conditions is inhumane of the level essentially. of destruction essentially. they are trying to say that this is out thinking from the trump administration, an age—old he is age—old problem and he is coming up with solutions to of77 of this. all of this. the best idea is to ut all of this. the best idea is to put - in _ all of this. the best idea is to put - in the - all of this. the best idea is to put - in the box, l to put it back in the box, there's no question it is a cycle, this deliberately used cruel and excessive gratuitous violence in order to demolish notjust
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but entire buildings but entire communities. and destroy the infrastructure and plough under roads. 7777ro7éds777fhey77 7777ro7éds77f7t7hey77 77t7his the roads. they did this deliberately to make it the roads. they did this delibert�*forito make it the roads. they did this delibert�* for palestinians to difficult for palestinians to return to the but difficult for palestinians to return to the means palestnsne ”sane 7 ’ they “siestnsne means " '”" " ' they will “siestnsne means " '”" " 7 they will not steadfast, they will not move from the they have been 777777 777b7e7e7n7 7ou7t7 �* homes �*homes 80% of �* homes 80% of gaza art = our pushed out of refugees. our pushed out of their in israel and are their homes in israel and are staying on the land of are not moving. palestine, they are not moving. the solution if you want to do th?.5.9lliti.°.n. if you want to do and ask them to reconstruction'and'ash them to are two conditions, move, there are two conditions, one is gaza completely vacated from gaza because if they are they or the is that will us is that palestinians will not .-. there will be not trust daily there will be able to come they want to able to come back. they want to live in the land of palestine there will not they and there will not trust, they don't have the guarantee that they can return they will not leave. that is the issue, it they can return they will not leai to that is the issue, it they can return they will not leai to be at is the issue, it they can return they will not leai to be palestinianie, it they can return they will not leai to be palestinian control has to be palestinian control otherwise it will not go.
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james, president of the arab—american institute, we appreciate you sharing your us. thank you. thoughts with us. thank you. . you very following president trump's funding freeze. on his trip to guatemala on wednesday, the national interest of the united states. on leave with the exception of those involved in �*mission—critical functions.�* a post on the agency's website confirmed staff will be recalled friday night — for their service. protestors gathered on capitol hill to protest that the choice to shut the agency down
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i was joined a short while ago byjeremy konyndyk, and former usaid official under the biden and obama administrations. you were at while ago. it was there, what resolve? by mv counttbere were 12 resolve? b! m 12 or resolve? b! m— 12 or 13 at least 12 or 13 members of the us congress to join the the us congressto join the is like myself and other valley is like myself and other former officials joined by what my eye look like several people- 77777777777 7 7 77 7 7 people. usaid thousand people. usaid employees partner organisations and people who in the mission that the has a responsibility but 717thi7nk7a77 7i77'diinka7value 717thi7nk gas of7 i think a value of7trying also i think a value of trying to do good in the worldemf—w—w to do good in the world: ~ ~ the world from usaid in latest develo - merits latest develo - ments were the latest developments were placed leave from friday, coming back to the 7 coming back to the united some coming back to the united states stop what you think the states stepewhat—you—think the of that will be? to states stepewhateyouet. '
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- of that will be? what the secretary said, at beginningof 7 beginningofa 7 77 b7e77gi7nning ofa7 stretch 7 77 b7e77gi7nning ofa7 stretch and the eee'hh'he e�*f s strstrh and 7 77 america more tns eee'hh'he e�*f s strstrh and 7 77 america more secure the eee'hh'he e�*f s strstrh and 7 77 america more secure and making america more secure and more prosperous, the way they are doing this is none of those more prosperous, the way they are doi it this is none of those more prosperous, the way they are doi it achieved ne of those more prosperous, the way they are doi it achieved the »f those ill opposite of those things. it does not make australia more secure or prosperous to kick secure or prosperous'to'kick 3d people off of all is million people off of all is programmes. it doesn't make us �*to effigrsmmes it dfiesnt masses ' ' �*to be out of refugee stronger to be out of refugee camps and wasn't which is happening on a human serine happening on a humanrserine it front and it doesn't make us stronger to shut down things i can to —— and tie trafficking programmes. if can to -- and tie trafficking programme— can to -- and tie trafficking programmes. if the a stretch and is making _ programmes. if the a stretch and is making the _ programmes. if the a stretch and is making the argumentl and is making the argument about it is efficiency. other like at“? it is sft'='sfi=¥9thsf like usaid sift“? it is sftm'sksethsr like usaid can sift“:t it is sft'='sfi=¥?thsr like usaid can be programmes like usaid can be in your opinion? programmes like usaid can be - in your opinion?— cut in your opinion? there are chances cut in your opinion? there are changes in — cut in your opinion? there are changes in priorities - cut in your opinion? there are changes in priorities in - ::= 77 every attrition demonstrations. every attrition comes and changes parties = -22 is the natural order of which is the natural order of
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agencies and beat staff very used to that they are very used to that and they do that. i are very used to that and they do that. ., ., , always do that. i want to put ou always do that. i want to put you . comments we - always do that. i want to put you . comments we heard | you the comments we heard from donald trump talking about elon musk look at all the musk saying look at all the fraud he found saying that it has to be corrupt. he said that without evidence. what is your reaction to those comments? it's entirely without evidence. it's entirely withoutevidence. even go so far as to —= disinformation. a few times they made specific insertions programmes such as about programmes such as the story about several $50 million shipments to gaza has been debunked bi; debunked be the thoroughly debunked by the bill and other media outlets jewel and other media outlets on the planet so when they are pressed for they really pressed for details they really struggle to evidence. struggle to find evidence. i to ask you about the asa as a tool of soft power, comments we heard from some comments we heard from former state officials and of the agency dismantlement will be self rated by dictators and lamented democrats. your response?
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by democrats. your response? spot on. one of the people what elon musk is cheerleadingewhat elon musk is in usaid over weekend doing in usaid over the weekend is the former president of ' ... " because he is the former president of ... ... w because he knows is the former president of w ... w because he knows that russia. because he knows that usaid advances in the what usaid advances in the world openness, freedom, democracy and prosperity. that makes job, russia's makes his job, russia's job harder makes hisjob, russia'sjob harder in the spear and harder in the global spear and with withdraw usaid, harder in the global spear and with withdi playing d, “if“ , , ..- is happy for your playing field. ., ., also attended by democratic . what are your next senators. what are your next steps, plans in terms of resisting this —— areas resistino this —— adverse areas —— —— .- — .- —— it even field. spent 7 7 spent years 7 spent years praising work of 77 work of they 77 work of they know 77 the work of usaid, they know the work of usaid, they know the agency is know it is what the agency is a know it is not is being portrayed as. not what is being portrayed as. they need speak out, many to not what is being portrayed as. they the d speak out, many to not what is being portrayed as. they the bravery ak out, many to not what is being portrayed as. they the bravery to out, many to not what is being portrayed as. they the bravery to step many to not what is being portrayed as. they the bravery to step up ny to not what is being portrayed as. they the bravery to step up and o = 2:7:
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_7 the record and speak correct the record and speak the truth about the agency and its donald trump signed an executive order banning ranch gender girls and women from sporting. banning transgender girls and women from sports the order — invokes a law known as title 9, which bans sex here's president trump speaking earlier before signing we are putting every school receiving taxpayer dollars on notice that if you let men take notice thatifyou letamen take sports in over women sports teams, or in your locker rooms you will be investigated for violations of mine and risk your title mine and risk your federalfunding. there title mine and risk your federal funding. there will be no federalfunding. with president donald trump. during his second term. it comes as a us military plane carrying indian migrants in the state of punjab.
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the deportation flight, left from texas on tuesday. the us says it has identified about 18,000 indian our south asia correspondent semira hussein has more. (don't uth asia correspondent (don't believe correspondent (don't believe we �*respondent (don't believe we have )ndent (don't believe we have that 1t report but moving on now report but we are moving on now to sweden. sweden held a day of mourning after the worst as the man who carried out the attack, killing 10 people before taking his own life. a motive, some fear the attack was racially—motivated. in orebro, including the king of sweden, who laid a bouquet.
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sweden's broadcaster are quoting a sources and the suspect is naming the suspect is 35—year—old rickard andersson. naming the suspect is 35—yi said ld rickard andersson. naming the suspect is 35—yi said to rickard andersson. naming the suspect is 35—yi said to have 'd andersson. naming the suspect is 35—yi said to have lived iersson. naming the suspect is 35—yi said to have lived in �*sson. he is said to have lived in this town centre in a bed this town centre in a one bed apartment apparently he involved 7 involved in some courses even involved—in somecourses the centre behind me the 7 the atr7ocity was where the atrocity was he shot ten committed where he shot ten people. apparently also people. apparently he is also said to have a license for said to have had a license for firearm but sweden's a firearm but sweden's police authorities have not confirmed of this yet. this is a any of this yet. this is a nation in and as you can nation in shock and as you can see behind people see behind me people are coming to lay sentinuously are taming to l? "t " " to light and flowers to light candles and mourn. the motive of why this is not yet known, this happened is not yet known, this is critical for the nation to 7 7 7shotduring 7
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7 7 shotduring ti7me ten people shot during is time break at campus me. break at the campus behind me. this is a nation in mourning, the king and queen were her earlier on and they expressed that it earlier on and they expressed thatitis earlier on and they expressed that it is important people grieve and important they come 7 sweden's 7 7 sweden's payment is together. sweden's payment is has described as the to has described this'as'the . . ~ ~ ~ worst mass atrocity country's worst mass atrocity in history. an american researcher has what baby two discovered what baby totals two after entering a sea, answering after entering a sea, answering a question that puzzled for decades by wasps fessssssiss es'iisins for 11 yea rs satellite trackers for 11 years the group found aisling swim navigate independently swim and navigate the vast dispelling the the vast oceans dispelling the long held theory that they simply flip with the current, a long held theory that they simply flip with t been �*rent, a long held theory that they simply flip with t been �*rent, to to coastal waters has return to coastal waters has been called the lost years. you new every new77 every day learn something new every day on bbc news. hello there.
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is going to be a chilly start away from the far northwest. a bit more of a breeze here, but low single figures will allow a frost to form, so a cold start to thursday of a breeze down through the south—east — a few isolated showers, but all in all, a dry settled start — 7—9 degrees. we pick up more of a breeze coming from a southeasterly direction, a cooler source, but it will drive in more cloud.
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