waste hits the courts. should the world be worried? good evening. this is newsnight, live from broadcasting house, with the top takeaways. with me tonight... and liz truss, and naomi smith,

pro—eu campaigner. hello, both. first tonight, we go inside elon musk�*s race he's gained access to the treasury payment system, dismantled an entire quit or face being fired. seasoned observers told us trump two would be more this is what the beginning of dictatorship looks like... ..when you gut the constitution...

..and you install yourself as the sole power. he does have a good natural instinct. else, if not better. a judge has said "slow down",

backing a delay before firing tens of thousands of people. this is the e—mail that said, quit or you will be fired, love. this is the e-mail that said, quit or you will be fired, love.- or you will be fired, love. that's ri . ht. as or you will be fired, love. that's right- as you — or you will be fired, love. that's right. as you say, _ or you will be fired, love. that's right. as you say, a _ or you will be fired, love. that's right. as you say, a federal- right. asyeu say, arfederalj-udge massachusetts right. asyeu say, arfederaljudge massachusetts who right. asyeu say, arfederalj-udge massachusetts who i right. asyeu say, arfederaljudge massachusetts who i say ingassachusetts whoj should say originally appointed by bill has extended the deadline clinton, has extended the deadline on that from midnight clinton, has extended the deadline o hearing >m midnight f: e... clinton, has extended the deadline o hearing on midnight f: e... clinton, has extended the deadline o hearing on monday. 4 e... clinton, has extended the deadline o hearing on monday. so 4 e... clinton, has extended the deadline o hearing on monday. so a f: e... clinton, has extended the deadline o hearing on monday. so a temporary a hearing on monday. so a temporary in move by elon musk that designed to lay off hundreds of is designed to lay eff hdndreds ef of federal is designed to lay eff hundreds ef of federal employees. thousands of federal employees. you can how controversial this is in film. we saw the democratic film. we sa ilhan democratic film. we sa ilhan 0mar:ratic w ' hint weisailhan bmar'leading congresswoman ilhan omar leading the protest outside us aid agency effectively 6 effectively disbanded. has effectively been disbanded. and we now have a era judge we now have a clinton era judge saying, hold on. probably a perfect

battle donald trump. he likes a battle for donald trump. he likes a battle for donald trump. he likes a battle democrats and he has a this. listen has a this. listen to s a this. listen to what this. listen to what the this. listen to what the future this. ”fisaid be}? ”september. ' i will create a government - efficiency commission tasked with need to do it — can't goj on the way we are now. applause agreed to head that task force. so that was september. until last week and elon musk acting e .e the office 77 7 w ' theiofficeofi " the office of personnel 77 fired the office of personnel management, and e—mail goes out to 2 civilian civilian % civilian civilian employees = -:: that you until midnight totyou until midnight to work until midnight to work full—time midnight to work full—time or idnight tonight to work full—time or resign and be paid until the end of

and obviously, if you september. and obviously, if you stay as you are you could e.- ”ifbeirig’firedi; 1-335?" ”ifbeirig’firedi; i’fn’iéiiw}; 1sfk |ntheroadthat headlined, fork in the road. that takes back to elon musk takes us back to when elon musk took over control twitter. we might be over control of twitter. we might be able to see some pictures him able to see somepistures ef him arriving at twitter ho. famously arrivingatlwitter hq. he is, he has sing and he there he is, he has that sing and he said as he entered, let that sink said as'he'entefed; let that sink. in said as'he'enterad; let that sink. in that said as'he'enterad; let that sink in that e—mail, he said employees, work �*employees, work longer �* employees, work longer hours twitter employees, work longer hours or you should quit job. or you should quit this job. swann over at the new jonathan swann over at the new york times has had sort of times has had some sort of colour of what has been fascinating colour of what has been going on. he has been quoting walter the biographer of elon isaacson, the biographer of elon musk, saying that he has entered the —— demon mode which is what leon —— demon mode which is what he was like he took over twitter. was like when he took over twitter. he has office in the west wing he has an office in the west wing and the main is in the and the main. eeeretien is in the. the and the main. eeeretien is in the the musk eisenhower ware operates the musk army. these are 20—something —year—olds from silicon valley

71 f " milken”; f with and on. have passes evidently don't have security passes they are interviewing quite agd chey are interviewing ouite �*federal saying, senior federal employees saying, what are you _ whgtiareyou doing? reaction to all of this is job. some reaction to all of this is this. representative al green, who's from texas, supported moves to the white house. green, to newsnight. thank you for having me. think is not — newsnight. thank you for having me. think is not even _ newsnight. thank you for having me. think is not even dry _ think is not and you want to sack donald trump. well, let's take a look at what i've well. let's take a leak. at what lye i've that well. let's take a leak. at what lye i've that would said. i've indicated that i would bring articles of impeachment and i this after ex-clainin said this after explaining some of what has the president and what has happened. the president and the prime minister of israel

talked about �* talked about what can together talked about what can happen in gaza. but they did it in a very disrespectful way. they didn't give consideration to the give consideration to thi in a respectful way, palestinians in a respectful way, they didn't talk to them first. people have come to believe somehow, people have come to believe that if the can agree, that if the neighbours can agree, the palestinians agree. i don't the paleetiniane "duet agree. l den't — —~— ~ —— ~ with the paleetiniane mast acee ld'mt' ~~ ~ ~ ~ with this concept. that is agree with this concept. that is their land. this is home to them. and the impeachment? the? their land. this is home to them. and the impeachment?— their land. this is home to them. and the impeachment? they are not cattle. and because _ and the impeachment? they are not cattle. and because they _ and the impeachment? they are not cattle. and because they are - and the impeachment? they are not cattle. and because they are not - n cattle they sheutd'be'reseeeted. i that there are things to cattle they sheutd'be'reseeeted. i considered e are things to cattle they sheutd'be'reseeeted. i considered than things to cattle they sheutd'be'reseeeted. i considered than that. things to cattle they sheutd'be'reseeeted. i considered than that. thing a to be considered than that. when a who fired president who has previously fired an fbi director in his first term ff investigating him,7who has ff investigating him, who has now =-= that he 7 that he can take on the fbi that he can take on the fbi depathent. ake on the fbidepathent. friends, e entire fbi department. friends, where �*you are, we don't want in

country the afraid to this country the fbi afraid to investigate the president because that he will fire them. is unacceptable. in the f isiunacceptableiln {he brief that is unafaeptabte’jn the brief we have with you, green, how man times yousr e ”sen 5” i yofuitfifedf f f f f fyofuftfifedfandff f f fyfofuftfifedfandfsfchfceededff f you tried and succeeded tofff have you tried and succeeded to impeach trump? because every yo.) a’fi tan? if ffffmefisfiié' f fffffff f f ' ffffyoufdo,fhe geftsfff f f f f ffffyéiifdigfiié geftsfff f £3},th f f f time you do, he gets more popular. have you about that? time you do, he gets more popular. have you - about that? have you thought about that? -.xk this. i know have you thought about that? wqlle - this. i know that _ have you thought about that? wqlle - this. i know that we _ have you thought about that? wqlle - this. i know that we lay - know this. l knowtbatwe lay the for intaeaehntent that foundation for impeachment and that he was impeached —— we laid. i foundation for impeachment and that he was impeached -- we laid. he was impeached —— we laid asking many times you i am asking how many times youwant keep you want to it this week? again this week? no, i have not said i have again this week? no, i have not said - i have said — again this week? no, i have not said - i have said it _ again this week? no, i have not said - i have said it is _ again this week? no, i have not said - i have said it isjust _ again this week? no, i have not said - i have said it isjust a - when. i have said it isjust a matter of time. over time, when. i have said it isjust a matter of time. overtime, i when. i have said it isjust a matter of time. over time, i will matter'bf time. fiver time, i will when. atterof time;flver tim' . - ' when. �* , atterof time;flver tim' . - ' when, �* , , announce when. because time is im ortant announce when. because time is important in _ announce when. because time is important in the _ important in the democratic process because weeks ago, he was because weeks ago. he was. and our colleague nick sound f sound bite f the election when september before the election when he said that elon musk would take is” e:. . through the he said that elon musk would take is” e. . through the federal so ff so although you have a gevernment. se altheugh yeu have a ' the gaza policy, do you

gevernment. se altheugh yeu have a ' that the gaza policy, do you gevernment. se altheugh yeu have a ' that elon 3aza policy, do you gevernment. se altheugh yeu have a ' that elon musk olicy, do you gevernment. se altheugh yeu have a ' that elon musk havertz» you gevernment. se altheugh yeu have a ' that elon musk havertz a iou to iiire mandate to fire federal employees? —— has a mandate. of course i do not. and quite frankly, i don't know —— has a mandate. of course i do not. ar who te frankly, i don't know —— has a mandate. of course i do not. ar who does. ikly, i don't know —— has a mandate. of course i do not. ar who does. i.ly, i don't know —— has a mandate. of course i do not. ar who does. i think ion't know —— has a mandate. of course i do not. ar who does. i think that know —— has a mandate. of course i do not. ar who does. i think that the w :-= :-—— e-—— has him lot of president has given him a lot of latitude, too much latitude. and i that these things are to be when ff ff f fthenfyou f when you are ff ff f f thenfyou are drafting considered when you are drafting articles of eeeeeeeei- | .. considered when you are drafting articles of *:e:::*e::— ——— i am .. articles of impeachment. but i am not here to announce when net here tenightte'enneuneeflhen . will occur. net here tenightteenneuneeflhen e will occur. but you are —: = -: at the dastardly deeds in terms of f in terms of how ff f in terms of how people ff f in terms of how people arfe treated in this country, how being treated in’this’eeunftry.’hets"' -.... have institutional persons who have institutional knowledge that can benefit the are being released from if: z: -= �*it is being �* it is being done in jobs, how it is being done in an irresponsible way, i think that all of these things are to be .ee eee.e. ee fandfff e. -. fieefieig; farfidfiffbfefliefve that is considered. and i believe that he is unfit to be president. that considered. and i believe that he is unfit to be president.— in the e..-ntit te befleude’t -- fl in the fact that you want implicitein the fact'that'you want impeach him. just time is to impeach him. just because time is tight, could i you cast your tight, could i ask you to cast your experience over for

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listening with great interest. and naomi smith, the chief executive of best for britain, a pro—eu campaign group. welcome, simon, some of the big aside, as a truss supporter, is there a bit liz truss supporter, is there a bit of you that love is a hat of you that love is a hard hat approach to taking the government by scruff of ff scruff of the ff scruff of the nffeck? a f the ssruff ef the heels?— . i the scruff ef the heels?— . i in the scruff ef the heels? . i in making conservative, i believe in making sure the government is efficient and e’i certainly think that lean. and i certainly think that trump won mandate in president trump won mandate in if change the way america november to change the way america was is was governed. is he going quicker than ou was governed. is he going quicker than you thought? _ was governed. is he going quicker than you thought? as _ was governed. is he going quicker than you thought? as always - was governed. is he going quicker than you thought? as always with | than you thought? as always with donald trump. — than you thought? as always with donald trump, there _ than you thought? as always with donald trump, there is _ than you thought? as always with donald trump, there is an - performance what theatre. and performance to what he does. i do think that to listen to congressman talking about ff is exa ctlyff ff is exactlyfto ff is exa ctlyfto play ff is exactlyfto play the impeachment is exactly to play the game that trump would want game that donald trump would want him to to play into the him to play. to play into the narrative which is at, which is that

they want to the they don't want to accept the mandate he democratic mandate he has won. the word plutocracy is the one i was werd plutecracy is the e .. . .ees to werd plutecracy is tirednehwee - m_ werd plutecracy is tirednehwee - to reach for i werd plutecracy is the ens i was to reach for i do agree goin- to reach for and i do a-i that. goin to reach for and i do a ree - that. when going to reach for and i do agree that. when we think the withthat. when we think aboutth- .— withthat. when we think aboutth- withthat. when we think aboutthe of tech, over the last two world of tech, over the last two decades, — world of tech, over the last two decades, their mantra of move fast and break_ decades, their mantra of move fast and break things was rewarded. but ee you brin- that approach l you bring that approach into - f7 if— to -overnance to - overnance and to -overnance and to 2 and e to governance and to 2 and e i thevernance and to 2 and e i theabric 1ce and to 2 and e i thefabric of! and to politics and to the fabric of society, _ politics and to the fabric of society, it work. and it society, it won't work. and all it will look — society, it won't work. and all it will look to _ society, it won't work. and all it will look to do to undermine the will loehte do—ista undermine .- that will look. to do—iste undermine the _ that protect _ will look. to do—iste undermine the that protect us and structures that protect us and stop us scrambling over resources. simon, is there a difference _ us scrambling over resources. simon, is there a difference between - us scrambling over resources. simon, is there a difference between the - president's and the elected president's mandate and the unelected rocketeer? do share unelected rocketeer? do you share naomi's and said him naomi�*s and said about him wandering ee firing people? naomi's and said aboijthim wandering .. firina --eole? , ., around firing people? there is a constitutional _ around firing people? there is a. constitutional _ between constitutional difference between the two roles. as we heard in the two roles. as weeheard in the was something the package, this was something the president did say before he won the = -= and it does to me to pretty nd it does to me to pretty implicifft es to me to pretty implicit in to me to pretty implicit in the to me to

pretty implicit in the mandate :o pretty implicit in the mandate he be pretty’tmplicit’tn the mandate a be prettye'tmplicitee'tn theemandateea a won. how concerned are youeabeut a a of elon won. how concerned are youeabeutthe - of how— won. how concerned are youeabeutthe - of elon musk? extremely. - won. how concerned are youeabeutthe - of elon musk? extremely. how. are you? as e: more concerned donald much more concerned about donald look, much more concerned about donald i - look, didn't much more concerned about donald look, didn't stand on a trump. look, he didn't stand on a platform _ trump. look, he didn't stand on a platform and talk the things f: f f has subsequently e f has subsequently said 5 i has subsequently said he - has subsequently said he wants é has subsequently said he wan to he has subsequently said he wants to do i terms _ he has subsequently said he wants to do i terms of— he has subsequently said he wants to do terms of gaza. so the do in terms of gaza. so the impeachment point the impeachment point and the issues being _ impeachment point and the issues being now, they are far being raised now, they are far beyond — being raised now, they are far beyond what hasjust talked beyond what hasjust been talked about _ beyond what hasjust been talked about in— beyond what hasjust been talked about in terms of the doge. it beyond what hasjust been talked abc domestic s of the doge. it beyond what hasjust been talked abc domestic politics, )oge. it beyond what hasjust been talked abc domestic politics, the t. it beyond what hasjust been talked abc domestic politics, the present e mandate to govern america have our views on mandate and the of it. f— f- fff fff ff f f fffff ff— fft- f fff ff f f fffff chinkfitfisfthef ff f f f think it is the legitimate of the us business to business of the us business to how she sees fit. business of the us business to - how she sees fit.- business of the us business to - how she sees fit. govern how she sees fit. nick, the usa department _ govern how she sees fit. nick, the usa department has _ govern how she sees fit. nick, the usa department hasjust - govern how she sees fit. nick, the usa department hasjust been - govern how she sees fit. nick, the - usa department hasjust been smoked. usa department has just been smoked. right. a few minutes ago, z -—z f—_ f f f ffflf had effectively been 2 said it had effectively been dismounted _ said it had effectively been dismounted —— _ said it had effectively been dismounted —— disbandedl said it had effectively been i dismounted —— disbanded and said it had effectively been - dismounted —— disbanded and the new york times _ dismounted —— disbanded and the new york times and — dismounted —— disbanded and the new york times and the _ dismounted —— disbanded and the new york times and the last _ dismounted —— disbanded and the new york times and the last. minutes . york times and the last few minutes g the _ york times and the last few minutes g the - of- are reporting theenum at are reporting thenumbenof _m_ are reporting thenumbenof _ at the us - are reporting theenum. . . _ at the us for employees at the us agency for international— employees at the us agency for

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ffdf terms of trade. .. he has you do in terms of trade. .. he has 10,000 troops _ you do in terms of trade. .. he has 10,000 troops off _ you do in terms of trade. .. he has 10,000 troops off the _ you do in terms of trade. .. he has 10,000 troops off the mexican - 10,000 troops off the mexican i'm getting at the point we concentrate on actions? i thatis that is low be it to me criticise thefbbc, but there is lot going on that does affect and europe. i'm not sure we can or should worry too much that we can or should worry too much the domestic governance of a about the domestic governance o . foreign country. let's go to another : these foreign country. bet's go to another - these events are linked by 'eade there eentr aelnkedb .. — .. —— . .. — — can blame 'eade these eentf aelnkedb .. e .. .. e .. e e can blame nick! taste ~ ., f nick. we can blame nick! we often do! unite in retalitiation against any us tariffs. i asked what they achieved.

you've got a lot in common? so it's a discussion between friends. do you agree with the prime minister here that britain needs a reset with the eu? in this volatile times and geopolitical difficult times.

yeah. that's a choice? yeah, that's a choice. how do you deal with donald trump?

as the british would say. speak softly, but carry a big stick. on the eu? does donald trump want to deal with geert wilders more than you?

with anybody he wants. for farage as well here. and there can be no discussion. . . that's keir starmer as in the netherlands, there seems to be a big churning in the world, and the politics of the right is on the rise in germany and in the netherlands. that supporting my government. it's the coalition government of four parties. for the next three years.

my pleasure. thank you. thanks to the dutch prime minister. do the politics of the right let's do the politics of the right in a moment. let's start with the eu/us spat. what would you like to uk to do as a giant remainer, what would you like the to do �* if would you like the uk to do now if there was a tariff war? i would you like the uk to do now if there was a tariff war?— would you like the uk to do now if there was a tariff war? i would like to see the uk _ there was a tariff war? i would like to see the uk enter— there was a tariff war? i would like to see the uk enter the _ to see the uk enter the negotiations that it _ to see the uk enter the negotiations that it is _ to see the uk enter the negotiations that it is about to embark on, because there is a set period that the deal— because there is a set period that the deal gets reviewed, because we have a _ the deal gets reviewed, because we have a deal the eu. it failing businesses and consumers. is failing businesses and consumers. on is failing businesses and consumers. 0n - |f— is failing businesses and consumers. on ., ., on tariffs? if we are alignedwith e... ., on toods on tariffs? if we are alignedwith e... .. on toods in [m europe on goods in particular, but also on _ europe on goods in particular, but also on services, it would have a also on servicesritwmld'havea for both the also on servicesfitwould have a for both the uk and shielding effect for both the uk and the eu _ shielding effect for both the uk and the eu from any theeeeie'efrerneany.

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is trying not to choose a starmer is trying not to choose a side, he is like said, side, he is like borisjohnson said, trying to have his cake and eat it. challenge is if the prime the challengeis if the prime were to say, we are mjgisjter were visibly to say.-weare a mjgister were visibly to say.-weare a side, are mjgisjter were visibly to say.-weare a side, are going with european union, euffropean union, the ff euffropean union, the challenge the european union, the challenge trump might say the was donald trump might say the 2094 i'm �*the eu i tariffs i'm planning for the eu i will put on the uk.— tariffs i'm planning for the eu i will put on the uk. will outsnttse de. a [ll will outsnttse de. a m making a choice. it is about about making a choice. it is about prioritisation. we have the review prioritisation. we have the review now happening with the eu. any trade ha- --enin with the eu. an now happening with the eu. any trade deal now happening with the eu. any trade deat with— now happening with the eu. any trade deal with the us... deal now happening with the eu. any trade deat with— now happening with the eu. any trade deal with the us... now happening with the eu. any trade deal with the us. . .— now happening with the eu. any trade deal with the us. . .— dealwith the us... $727. a trade deal, that is dealwith the us... because you have not a trade deal with the us. . .§ dealwith the us... because you have got a trade deal. _ dealwith the us... because you have got a trade deal, that _ dealwith the us... because you have got a trade deal, that is _ dealwith the us... because you have got a trade deal, that is called - - a trade deal, that is called - got a trade deal, that is called membership. i deal with the us. . .§ - a trade dt i i, that is called - deal with the us. . .§ - a trade dt i l, tha campaign - deal with the us. . .§ got a trade deal, that is called membership-— got a trade deal, that is called membership. got a trade deal, that is called membershi. ., �* ., - a trade dt i l, tha campaign for . membership. i don't campaign for re'oin. i deal with the us. . .§ - a t i de dt i l, tha campaign for . deal with the us. . .§ membership. i don't campaign for rejoin. i campaigned _ membership. i don't campaign for - a t i campaigned campaign for . rejoin. i campaigned for _ membership. i don't campaign for rejoin. i campaigned for a - membership. i don't campaign for rejoin. i campaigned for a closer. rejoin. i campaigned for a closer rejoin. i campaigns... .. .. ....s with rejoin. i campagned—fereflesen — with europe rejoin. i campaigned. for a closer with europe and we need relationship with europe and we need to align _ relationship with europe and we need to align with them on goods and =—= to align with them on goods and services — for conservatives. reform is ow services — to align with them on goods and services |— to align with them on goods and services. , ., , ., , ., to align with them on goods and services |— to align with them on goods and services. , ., , ., , ., services. fa??? % said we must em services. i promised i would us on, i said we services. i promised i would us on, i said we must _ services. i promised i would us on, said we must about viewers' i said we must talk— services. i promised i would us on, i said we must talk about - services. i promised i would us on, i said we must talk about viewers'l i said we must talk about viewers' concerns at home. do you think there i said we must talk about viewers' concerns at home. do you think there is a new right forming. it does seem a new right f a new right forming.f it a new right forming.fit does a new right forming.f it does seem we have that we have got as many voters we haf/e got ff we have got as f we have got as voters voting for reform in the polls now that we have goteasemanyevoters �* reform in the polls now

that we have goteasemanyevoters for �* reform in the polls now that we have goteasemanyevoters as for conservatives. reform is for conservatives. he polls now that we have goteasemanyevoters for conservatives. reform now that we have goteasemanyevoters topping the polls. can conservatives ever win with a split right. its topping the polls. can conservatives ever win with a split right.— ever win with a split right. its not desirable that _ ever win with a split right. its not desirable that the _ ever win with a split right. its not desirable that the centre - ever win with a split right. its not desirable that the centre right. ever win with a split right. its not desirable that the centre right is| desirable that the centre right is split. there is one poll showing us. what is the impact?— split. there is one poll showing us. what is the impact? obviously, they run the risk — what is the impact? obviously, they run the risk of _

what is the impact? obviously, they run the r do of _ what is the impact? obviously, they run the r do you _ what is the impact? obviously, they run the i do you - reform - what is the impact? obviously, they run the i do you - reform will. policies. do you think reform will nut crack _ or - policies. do you think reform will nut crack _ or goodbye | ff fffkéanif f ff ff ffff f fffkerffnifbafdenoch? fit moved us and they're more voters moved to us and they're more pro—european and the conservatives better kemieeradenocheorrfarage? we - she had - talks. - more | voters moved to us and they're more pro—european and the conservatives and - will— and labour— pro—european and the conservatives pro—european and the conservatives and will need to try and win and labour will need to try and win and labour will need to try and win that pool— that pool— and labour will need to try and win that pool of— and labour will need to try and win that pool of voters at the next and labour will need to try and win that pool of— and labour will need to try and win that pool of voters at the next and labour will need to try and win that pool it voters at the next and labour will need to try and win that pool it feels 's at the next election _ that pool of voters at the next election. it feels that both of the and labour will need to try and win that pool it feels that the next and labour will need to try and win that pool it feels that both ext and labour will need to try and win that pool it feels that both oft and labour will need to try and win that pool it feels that both of the arties are are concerned main _ election. it feels that both of the main parties are are more concerned f. f f ff f ff ff fffff f f — about— main parties are are more concerned about the _ main parties are are more concerned about the rise of reform than the the rise of reform than the about the rise of reform than the centre _ about the rise of reform than the centre centre right of the centre _ about the rise of reform than the centre and — about the rise of reform than the centre and centre right of the centre and centre right of the country— centre and centre right of the country appealing those country— centre and centre right of the country and appealing to those people — country and appealing to those --eole. ,, country and appealing to those --eole. ., , country and appealing to those --eole. ,, , , , people. linking it up, drimps she had talks. supercharging _ some of the right people. linking it up, drimps supercharging some - people. linking it up, drimps supercharging some of - people. linking it up, drimps supercharging some of the l people. linking it up, drimps. supercharging some of the right on immigration. including on immigration. you on immiaration. ., supercharging some of the right including on immigration. you have a leader of a - nigel _ including on immigration. you have a leader of a party. _ including on immigration. you have a including on immigration. you have a leader of a - nigel- who | leader of a party, nigel— including on immigration. you have a leader of a party, nigel farage, - including on immigration. you have a leader of a party, nigel farage, who | leader of a party, nigel farage, who knows _ leader of a party, nigel farage, who donald trump better than knows donald — leader of a party, nigel farage, who knows donald trump _ leader of a party, nigel farage, who knows donald trump better- leader of a party, nigel farage, who knows donald trump better than - leader of a party, nigel farage, whoj knows donald trump better than the prime uk prime _ knows donald trump better than the uk prime minister. _ knows donald trump better than the uk prime minister. who _ who talks trump knows donald trump better than the uk prime minister. who talks- knows donald trump better than the uk prime minister. who talks trump f badenoch or fara -e? better— uk prime minister. who talks trump better kemi — uk prime minister. who talks trump better kemi badenoch _ uk prime minister. who talks trump better kemi badenoch or— uk prime minister. who talks trump better kemi badenoch or farage? i

badenoch or fara-e? wf uk prime minister. who talks trumpl better kemi badenoch or farage? we better kemi—eradenocheor—fa rage? we saw she _ better kemi badenoch or farage? we saw she had — m— better kemieeradenocheorrfarage? we better kemi badenoch or farage? we saw she had close _ better kemi badenoch or farage? we saw she had close talks. _ better kemi badenoch or farage? we saw she had close talks. we - better kemi badenoch or farage? we saw she had close talks.— better kemi badenoch or farage? we saw she had close talks.- we l saw she had close talks. we are we are seeint saw she had close talks. we are we are seeing how _ saw she had close talks. we are we are seeing how influential—

saw she had close talks. we are we are seeing 1 turns fluential _ saw she had close talks. we are we are seeing 1 turns out ntial_ saw she had close talks. we are we are seeing 1 turns out that _ e.” of have consequences. naomi, bank of encland have consequences. naomi, bank of england halves _ have consequences. naomi, bank of england halves forecast _ have consequences. naomi, bank of england halves forecast. growth l england halves forecast for growth rate cut the ftse 100. as rate cut powers the ftse 100. shareholders, it is all right for them and home owners, do you think rachel reeves has blown it. i them and home owners, do you think rachel reeves has blown it.— rachel reeves has blown it. iii: she needs rachel reeves has blown it. eee ee she needs to rachel reeves has blown it. eeee ee she needs to talk her and if you want to continue watching the bbc news at ten, i'm perry in washington.

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