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welcome back to welcome back bbc news. let's turn to our main headlines. turn to our main headlines. governments around the world, including close allies, criminal court. criminal court. three women accuse ali fayed of sexual assault. he's the only surviving brother of mohamed al fayed and the former co—owner of harrods. and the incredible story and the incredible story of a son, who's saved his dad of a son, who's saved his dad twice, donating bone marrow theyjoin me in the studio. and then a kidney. theyjoin me in the studio. let's go back to our 00:01:00,247 --> 2147483051:37:14,838 to providejustice and hope 2147483051:37:14,838 --> 4294966103:13:29,429 to the victims of atrocities, let's go back to our main story. the international criminal
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court has said it will continue to providejustice and hope to the victims of atrocities,
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terrorist of an organisation that had 1700 that had murdered 1700 civilians deliberately and -=: the most 5 the most ghastly way; the most ghastly wayfand the in the most ghastly way and the prime minister and anyway. and the in the most ghastly way and the prime minister and defensive defence ruck defence minister of a ibeieince” w �*of "’7be’ie}1£é”’7 �*ofa ruck defence minister of a democratic country. was democratic country. that was 7 7stubi7d77 extremely stupid. whether truck 7 7stu7pi7d7.777 77777777truck == = trump is wise struck —— — trump is wise in ,= , trump is wise in struck —— — trump is wise in issuing sanctions, that is a issuing sanctions, that is a different the us is not different matter. the us is not different matter. the us is not a member of the icc and there a member of the icc and there were no americans involved and were no americans involved and this is just trump this is just trump were no americans involved and this isjust trump behaviour of were no americans involved and this isjust trump behaviour of a kind that we are used to. i a kind that we are used to. i will come back to top right this isjust trump behaviour of a ki come t we are used to. i this isjust trump behaviour of a ki come backare used to. i this isjust trump behaviour of a ki come back to used to. i this isjust trump behaviour of a ki come back to top d to. i this isjust trump behaviour of a ki come back to top right i in terms of the uk, behaviour. in terms of the uk, behaviour. iqrterms sf the uk. are a behavieur. lhtterh'ts ef the uk. are a signatory of the they are a signatory of the 7should this icc. should this current labour should this cur7rent igggihcggzldfthis current labour government responded robustly government responded robustly to the sanctions? i do to the sanctions? i do government responded robustly to the sanctions?— government responded robustly to the sanctions?— to the sanctions? i do not think there _ there is any need to to the sanctions? i do not think there is _ to the sanctions? i do not think there is any - to the sanctions? i do not robustly7. they are not think there is any need i to the sanctions? i do not think there is any need to j think there is any need to respond robustly. they are not our sanctions. these sanctions sanctions. these sanctions eur eehetiehst these grate"; been eer eehetiehet theee ee":�*e"e have been imposed unilaterally been imposed —=: the united 7 by the united states and that the united states 7 the united states and 7 the united states and that 7 glib}. united states and that means obviously, they will not obviously, they will not co—operate with any of the means obviously; theyrwill not with any of the co—operate with any of the staff of the icc but i'm not staff of the icc but i'm not
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aware that they aware that they were 5355535 5, zee 7a7n77yway- cooperating anyway. they refused the international court. the uk is in a quite different situation. we court. the uk is in a quite different situation. we are but the sanctions _ different situation. we are but the sanctions have _ different situation. we are but the sanctions have the - the sanctions have the potential to impact the work of that court that the uk are a signatory to that is why i asked the question about what the uk government response should be in terms of any sort of support for quarter.- of support for quarter. well, i cannot speak _ of support for quarter. well, i cannot speak for _ of support for quarter. well, i cannot speak for that's - cannot speak for that's government. i'm not cannot speakfor that's government. i'm not a member of that present government but as i can say is that they ought to express disapproval as he sanctions have been imposed but thatis sanctions have been imposed but that is a matter between the united states and the international court. i don't think it should go beyond that and it is not a dispute between britain and the united states. each country is entitled to make his own judgment as to whether we should cooperate with a court, given that america has never been a member of the icc and recognises jurisdiction, it is not surprising given that trump has
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his own individual bus 90 that he has acted in this way. it’s he has acted in this way. it's important — he has acted in this way. it's important to _ he has acted in this way. it's important to underline some of the important work at the court doesin the important work at the court does in own number of different atrocity that they have been investigated over the years and even currently. i investigated over the years and even currently.— even currently. i really strongly _ even currently. i really strongly agree - even currently. i really strongly agree with - even currently. i really l strongly agree with that. even currently. i really - strongly agree with that. it was the international can a that
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was the international can a tha1 very badly thought out. if are now the same day i a-ainst at the same time terrorist and at the same time as a democratically elected israeli prime minister and thatis defence minister, that is equivalence, whether you call it that or something else. that's made their own job infinitely it infinitely more difficult. it was the excuse they needed to = -= == the way that had. behave the way that he had. a point that it was on the behave the way that he had. day, nt that it was on the behave the way that he had. day, if that it was on the behave the way that he had. day, if it at it was on the behave the way that he had. day, if it was: was on the behave the way that he had. day, if it was not 5 on the behave the way that he had. day, if it was not on 1 the behave the way that he had. day, if it was not on the a same day, if it was not on the same day, if it was not on the same day, if it was not on the same day, with the same arguments apply? there was arguments—apply? there'was the for the high arguments—apply?there—was the for the high mass warrant for the high mass leader —— leader �* happened the international court teefaer ,, teed—er- �*ee- l:__;_;a ., ~ w ~ ~ ~ —— the international court are but the international court are arguing it is all arguing that it is all about the way that the conflict has been in the n..- 777|7f7777 if there 7 7 777i7f7t7he7re7 7 71173377 77 77 after that. if there is had happened at times, happened at separatetie'tese—— ——— — we. are haeeehed at separatetietesefi ;—; — w;— are the same happened at separatetie'tese—— ——— — we. are the same arguments which are the same arguments apply? it which are the same arguments a- -l ? ., which are the same arguments a . .l ? ., ., , which are the same arguments
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a- -l ? ., ., , , , apply? itwould -- ~ ~ insultin: apply? it wouldhavebeenlese _ insulting and i would have incurred therefore, would have incurred criticism. its still would less criticism. its still would have pretty stupid because have been pretty stupid because one hand, hamas ohohe hahdtmu have hamas has 9499-5113wa have hamas has not denied it was a which has not denied it was a for the deliberate 1700 men, �*of 1700 men, women 7chi7ldr7en7.77 7 77 77 7chi7ldren7.7l7t77 77 7777 ariseni'rt'hgg 77 7chi71dr7e7n7.7|7t ha7s7not7 7 7 7chi71dr7e7n7.7|7t ha7s7not7d7e7nie7d777 7 but gloried in it therefore gogt7 eiaj t ii’e’g” goat is not very difficult that goat is not very difficult to establish. when you are dealing on the other a dealing ohthe otherhahd, a elected minister democratically elected minister defence minister, a democracy, parliamentary democracy, subject to its own of subject to its own rule of law which works in an effective way subject to its own rule of law wi the norks in an effective way subject to its own rule of law wi the israeli n an effective way subject to its own rule of law wi the israeli government: way subject to its own rule of law wi the israeli government had/ as the israeli government had their own itches founded their own itches can't retire, there is for a retire. there is reehe fer a ~ ~ discussion series substantial discussion series debate before you assume that warm crime has been committed warm crime has been, committed iraq war crime has been —— iraq war crime has been there was things —— iraq war crime has been in there was things —— iraq war crime has been in war iere was things —— iraq war crime has been in war and was things —— iraq war crime has been in warand we.things —— iraq war crime has been in war and we can 1gs —— iraq war crime has been in war and we can all happen in war and we can all remove the second war remove the second world war britain, the raf bombed where britain, the raf bombed dresden and have
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dresden and many have criticised a is whether criticised it a miss is whether it was a thing to do. it was a right thing to do. these matters of general these are matters of general public debate. the hamas -|m -iieei �*of public �* of public debate it was murder of innocent unprovoked murder of innocent people in a deliberate way. to unprovoked murder of innocent people in worries rate way. to unprovoked murder of innocent people in worries of e way. to unprovoked murder of innocent people in worries of crime, to unprovoked murder of innocent people in worries of crime, the 7 7 211074111 a...” 777 icc should have known better and they in a very and they behaved in a very stupid and are the authors of and they behaved in a very stup�* owni are the authors of and they behaved in a very stup�* own misfortune thors of and they behaved in a very stup�* own misfortune just; of and they behaved in a very stup�* own misfortune just for 7 that 7 7 7 thatl 7 7 7 thatl have 7 7 media in 777m7edia inthe 777 777m7edia in the last couple social media in the last couple of days your views on what donald trump i said of days your views on what don the irump i said 75? ll of days your views on what don the palestinians. 75? ll of days your views on what don the palestinians. eyou ll at what has ha- -ened in look at what has happened in blizzard of events in the the blizzard of events in the few you've got tariffs, 7 7 7 tariffs, the7 7 tariffs, the7 sanctions, �*would 7 7 �* would you 7 �*would you describe 7 �*would you describe the new how would you describe the new world order? i how would you describe the new world order?— how would you describe the new world order? i must make a mask correction- _ world order? i must make a mask correction. not _ world order? i must make a mask correction. not - i - correction. not only was i note, on social media, posted on social media. l'ele , used social media in my posted on social media. l'ele , uset not ial media in my posted on social media. l'ele , uset not intend iia in my posted on social media. l'ele , uset not intend to in my
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life and do not intend to because i think it is highly i think are irresponsible. i think you are to an injury that i j -7: ongb 7 may on gb 7 may have came on gb news which may have subsequently paid social subsequently paid on social media. —— interview that i gave on gb news. on the substance of question, i think that �* question, i think that the your question, i think that the way that trump is behaving, not come as any great surprise, the has form i was president man has form i was president forfour man has form i was president for four years man has form i was president forfour years for some for four years for some time ago and is behaving in a much dramatic now. i would strongly criticised certainly strongly criticised the weight that he has behaved and diverse that and diverse examples that might be given but with a trump, you've got to be careful because the man is not stupid. is very cunning and has a he is very cunning and has a — he is very cunning and has a , he behaves in this 7ishould 751§§i37e7777 7 77 7 7ishould 751579321; 7 77 7 77 7175171756173 751579327771; m; way. i should imagine he knows perfectly well that there is 74: -= the 7 possibility of million palestinians being a million. palestihishsbeihg” " from gaza or the states being asked ta ke 7 take over the 7 take over the territo7ry. it an (e over the territo7ry. it an observerie territory. it an observer a territory. it an observer a proposition is an observer a proposition as his editor proposal that
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join the states should join the united states —— is an observer a 7 77 77777c7a7n7a7da should proposition that canada should wear the united states or greenland should. simply by making speeches, he commands the world's making speeches, he commands the worlds for the world's attention for several days show a several days and show what a great he is. the man �*s as dominant consideration. is as dominant consideration. there is also motive in his apparent madness, by putting suggestions, he upsets absurd suggestions, he upsets people that he wants to with and you can then 7 are lam prepared proudly say that i am prepared not to on witty is this not to insist on witty is this in fact ridiculous amount if can come with they can come back with their own alternative proposal. this may not work in occasion. may not work in this occasion. of the stupidest thing which is of the stupidest thing which is done on the other issue is that —m 77 simi' ’ ' 777sa7udi7arabia 7 7 saudi7arabia was 7 77 7sa7udi7arabia was the 7 saudi7arabia was the most ahd saudi arabia was. the mart ,. ., fl ,, target for ahd saudi arabia was the mart ,. ., fl ,, target for president 7 to persuade trump in trying to persuade them to establish diplomatic them to establish dipleheat—ie~ ~~ -~ with israel. it was
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relations wit�*htsr’sstjlt was’ to be always going to be difficult but he has made it much more difficult and it have difficult and it would have otherwise have been. thank you so much for _ otherwise have been. thank you so much for your _ otherwise have been. thank you so much for your time. - otherwise have been. thank you so much for your time. we - otherwise have been. thank you so much for your time. we want j 5.9 much for your time. we want cross straight over to what to cross straight over totwhatss -. - - .. ..- .. .. a drop in that premise just77777 e ..g. s... just started a has just started a news conference there. it hasjust started a news conference there. 11.71. 77 i'm “ow been stronger and i'm now completing week which completing a week which began with an extraordinary meeting president trump and under with president trump an'd'u'rrder leadership, the critical 7 that 7 7 7 7 thatshow 7 7 that7sho7i7~7hi7s777 7 decisions that show his the american commitment and the american people's commitment to israel have come to the fore instantly. first, igstggtly. first. he renewed supply of rap and imagery the supply of rap and stops that fighting stops that we needed fighting for future, for our for our future, for our existence for ourfuture, for our existence —— —— he renewed the of weapons were he immediately stopped. he immediately released those weapons. he issued yesterday, sanctions on the scandal and corrupt the scandal and corrupt the that organisation the icc that there are things the right of are thingsths’rtght of all to defend democracies to defend by themselves and he
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themselves by themselves and he has done so many things in the injust two weeks. has done so many things in the in just two weeks. i interim in just two weeks. i was deeply moved by the reception that can't, the reception that we can't, the subsequent things that we making sure that iran discuss, making sure that iran ever get a weapon and making sure that hamas is also, making sure that hamas is destroyed. not a future destroyed. you're not a future gaza or future for peace in our gi oii the oi the inorid ii hamas oi t there. d ii hamas oi t there. the hamas oi t there. ihie hamas on "iii inst i i: i i inst i e many things, but i think it the tone for this great sets the tone for this great strengthening of this american— israeli 7 7-1 is israeli alliance photo is not only analyse between governments, it is an pew“; -.—. s —.:"s 7 people. this is a house between people. this is a house of the people and you, mr speaker, the american speaker. reareseht the amecah who speaher. reareseht the amecah who overwhelmingly people who overwhelmingly support the state of israel. i was driving to i was driving to washington, i looked outside and there are people on the sidewalks,
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peoplemh tieesidewalies, they the limousines pass and see the limousines pass and all go like they all i 7 7mrspeaker, support. ithink, mr speaker, thatis support. ithink, mr speaker, that is this spirit that you so many of that is this spirit that �*colleagues so many of that is this spirit that �* colleagues here nany of that is this spirit that �* colleagues here and 1 of that is this spirit that �*colleagues here and iof that is this spirit that �*colleagues here and i want your colleagues here and i want to you again and i want tothankfyou againand l want say that you are invited tothankfyou againand l want say this: you are invited tothankfyou againand l want say this: you in e invited tothankfyou againand l want say this: you injerusalem. israel this year injerusalem. israel this year injerusalem. i know you are busy but find space to do that. you will be welcome with a red i thank. so much. flurry of questions being but 7 7 but israel's 7 7 but israel's prem7ise shouted but israel's premise sza it's of their house and its peak of their house turn away after just a short news conference —— israel's a minister of the house prime minister of the house after a short news conference. prime minister of the house after were rt news conference. prime minister of the house after were still iws conference. prime minister of the house after were still a s conference. prime minister of the house after were still a s conf he 1ce. prime minister of the house after were still a s conf he said they were still a need, he said
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to destroy hamas and talked about confronting iran and said to destroy hamas and talked about confr between 1 and said to destroy hamas and talked about confr between israel;aid to destroy hamas and talked about confr between israel and the alliance between israel and us with an alliance the us with ah anahce betee" ~ . ~ ~ ... . also present our drum people. also present our drum —— for introducing on —— for introducing sanctions on the icc. -- —— for introducing sanctions on the icc. —— praising donald for introducing sanctions the icc. —— praising donald the for introducing sanctions the icc. —— praising donald the icc. 1troducing sanctions the icc. —— praising donald the icc. let'ching sanctions the icc. —— praising donald the icc. let's stay sanctions the icc. —— praising donald the icc. let's stay with :tions the icc. —— praising donald the icc. let's stay with the s 777wh7ic77hwe77 7 whichwehave 7 7 7 mesh ageing; gaza which we have been. talking ~ .. .... .. with our gaza which we have been. talking ~ .. ... k with our previous about both with our previous guest and also listening to that news conference and says 77s7a7ys77tha7t77777 7 77s7a7ys77tha7t7l7s7ra7el7 77s7a7ys77tha7t77l7s7ra7el7will 77 77 7&5} s77tha7t7l7s7ra7el7will 7&5} the7a7t7l7s7ra7el7will 7&5} the7ga7za7a7el7will a; the7g7a7za7s7trip u 7&5} the7ga7za7str7ip to hand over the gaza strip to the us once the fighting is over. he stood by that initial claim. israel has its army to israel has ordered its army to start preparing to allow what israel has ordered its army to star calls iaring to allow what israel has ordered its army to star calls voluntary llow what israel has ordered its army to star calls voluntary departure from gaza. 7 75556537;in of palestinians from gaza. all of palestinians from gaza. all of that comes amid ongoing questions about the future of the un estimates around 2000 of buildings have been destroyed �* damaged �*15 months or damaged after 15 months of fighting. let's go live to
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northern gaza and speak in neuro—rehabilitiation and pain medicine. thank you for waiting whilst we went to that news i went to that news conference. i �*you do not to get know you do not want to get involved of the politics ineeleed in any" at the pelittts” ’” ”' ’ ” gaza so ineeleed in any at the pelittts” ’” ”' ’ ” gaza so let's talk about the need because just about the need to, because are there and have seen it you are there and have seen it of the conflict the impact of the conflict over the impact of the conflict over the last 1a, 15 months. just describe levels of 7 77inviting inviting me here. inviting me he
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