tv Political Thinking with Nick... BBC News February 8, 2025 10:30pm-11:01pm GMT
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junior health minister andrew gwynne has apologised for "badly misjudged" whatsapp messages after he was sacked by sir keir starmer. hundreds take part in an anti—knife crime march after the fatal stabbing of 15—year—old harvey willgoose at a school in sheffield. a reminder of our top story this hour, hamas has freed three israeli hostages in gaza, while israel released 183 palestinian prisoners in the latest exchange as part of an internationally brokered ceasefire deal. of those involved in the fifth exchange of the gaza ceasefire deal. fawaz gerges is a professor of international relations at the london school of economics. he gave his assessement of these latest israeli
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let's really focus on the positives for now, forjust a minute. five exchanges of hostages and prisoners, think of the families and the beloved ones of the hostages, israeli hostages, and palestinian prisoners and captives. the cease fire still holds. two million palestinians now can breathe a bit. they're not being killed and maimed. the challenge facing the international community is that for the second phase of the ceasefire, my fear is that i don't think the ceasefire, the second phase of the ceasefire will see the light of the day because of a variety of questions, from president trump's statement about, you know, forcing the palestinians out of gaza to israeli prime minister's overarching aim to defeat hamas and expel
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hamas from gaza. and the sites that we have seen in the past few hours, what hamas really was trying to do, controls gaza militarily and politically, is still standing, despite the fact that it's been weakened. and the palestinian people in gaza and hamas are unified in basically maintaining their steadfastness in gaza. in the next few days and next few weeks. are there moves to try to change some of the the grounds for stage two to go ahead? because part of that included israeli forces, benjamin netanyahu will have pressure on the right of the political parties there for that not to happen. and yet there must be
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huge pressure from all absolutely correct. i mean, i think you really you put your finger on the pulse has been trying to do. the scenes that we have seen parading the three was part and parcel of hamas strategy to get the families of the hostages and the israeli public to exert pressure on benjamin netanyahu and his coalition to basically go ahead with the second phase, to get all the hostages, israeli hostages back. so the reality is there is a great deal of pressure on benjamin netanyahu internally. but we know in the past 15 months that the internal pressure did not really was not effective.
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benjamin netanyahu agreed to the ceasefire as a gift to donald trump. and that's why i and many specialists are concerned about what donald trump did in his meeting with benjamin neta nyahu. he really did throw a grenade at a tinderbox, giving netanyahu a green light or even a yellow light to resume the war. and the reason why many of us are sceptical about whether israeli prime minister will go ahead with the second phase, because if he does, his coalition would collapse and he made it very clear he would never accept hamas to remain in gaza. and what we've seen, what you and i and all your viewers have seen, that hamas continues to be in charge of gaza, hamas is weakened, but hamas still standing. so the reality is both the lack of pressure by president trump on benjamin netanyahu and the conditions in gaza that hamas
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continues to exist in gaza tells me that we could see benjamin netanyahu resuming the war in a few weeks, prolonging the first phase. just very briefly, though, i mean, donald trump came to office promising to end the war. surely he will not want to see that resume. and also, is hamas really going to negotiate itself out of a position in gaza? i think you're absolutely correct. between president trump and prime minister netanyahu basically would focus on the cease fire, on turning in fact, what what donald trump did was so incomprehensible, truly irrational, by throwing an idea, an irrational idea, instead of really keeping the focus on making sure
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that the second phase goes on. and secondly, in a sense, hamas will never, ever, everaccept basically exiting gaza. it has made it very clear, i don't know if you've seen the sign today, that the morning after, we are the morning after. and that's why, it seems to me, given the divide between the israeli government and hamas and the lack of real, substantive american pressure, i fear the worst. even though let's hope and pray that the cease fire, the second phase basically, continues. leaders of radical right—wing parties from the patriots for europe group, the third—largest in the eu parliament, are gathering in madrid for a summit. hosted by spain's vox party, the speakers called for tougher immigration controls and criticised green regulations they claim are holding back european farming. the summit was attended by marine le pen from
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france's national rally, geert wilders from the netherlands�* party for freedom and italian deputy premier matteo salvini. among them was also hungarian prime minister viktor orban, who praised donald trump the trump tornado has changed the world in just a few weeks. an era has ended. yesterday we were the heretics. today, we are the mainstream. here, hundreds of people in the northern city of sheffield have taken part in a march today, to protest against knife crime in the uk and to remember 15—year—old harvey willgoose, who was stabbed to death at his school earlier this week. a boy who's also 15 has been charged with his murder. gerry jackson reports. sheffield, and one boy's name rings out across his home city... chanting: ..one - harvey willgoose, one harvey willgoose. .. five days after his death, this was the response of his community — notjust in tribute to him, but to take an anti—knife
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message onto the streets. he used to come down to my matches and he helped me through so much. he was such a lovely boy, and he really didn't deserve this at all. pausing at a church to allow moments of celebration and reflection. coming togetherjust helps people feel more solidarity with each other. a sense of goodness with people and goodness in the city, in spite of the difficult times and this awful tragedy that's happened. i think i needed that. service cos it was silent then this, it's just amazing. normally boisterous fans were keen to pay their own respects. inside, a further tribute. a 15—year—old boy has been
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charged with harvey willgoose's the families of three people who were killed by a paranoid schizophrenic in nottingham in 2023 say that they will meet the prime minister next week to call for a statutory public inquiry into what happened. a review into the care that valdo calocane simonjones reports. it's more than 18 months since ian coates, barnaby webber and grace o'malley—kumar were stabbed to death, but their families say they are still fighting for answers. taser, taser! do not move. stay where you are. this is the moment valdo calocane, a paranoid schizophrenic, was arrested. he was sentenced to an indefinite hospital order for manslaughter. an independent review of his
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care prior to the attacks, published on wednesday, found his risk was not fully understood or managed. good morning, everybody. once again, thanks for your attendance. relatives of his victims told a news conference that the authorities, who they say failed their loved ones, still need to be held to account. make this trauma stop and make ourfight stop now. you have confirmed there will be a public inquiry, but agree the terms that we have been pleading for. all of the agencies, organisations, institutions and vitally individuals must then and will be compelled to attend, give evidence and tell the truth. the families met sir keir starmer when he was leader of the opposition last year. they will meet him again, this time as prime minister, on wednesday. the government says work is ongoing to establish
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the precise scope of the inquiry it has promised. the families insist it must examine the role had been sectioned four times in less than two years, but there had been no contact between him and health staff for about nine months prior to the killings. he wasn't forced to take anti—psychotic medication, in part because he didn't like needles, and the concerns of calocane's own family were not properly acted upon. the trust which treated him has apologised and says it has already made significant changes in its mental health care. as they prepare to head to downing street again, have left them feeling horrified and heartbroken, but more determined than ever in memory of their loved ones that the government should react.
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set over a kilometre off panama's northern coast, the tiny caribbean island of gardi sugdub has been home to the indigenous guna community for over 100 years. but overcrowding and rising water levels have caused an exodus — one of the first relocations of an entire community due to climate change in latin america. human rights watch told the bbc that it is "a model globally for what locally—led climate adaptation can look like in practice.". bbc mundo's agustina latourrette has this report. the indigenous guna people have lived on this island since the 19th century. here, they found refuge after escaping from spanish colonisers and from subsequent wars with rival tribes. but now they have to leave. translation: i have lived on the island . for almost 20 years. it is quite sad to leave a place where one has been for so long.
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but we had to move because of overcrowding as the island was already too small for the number of inhabitants we had. but overcrowding was not the only problem on the island. the sea level also became a risk factor. our data indicate right now that the level of the oceans are increasing by at least five millimetres per year. we also know that that rate is increasing over time, given that the islands of the guna are on average one metre or less above mean sea level, it is almost a certainty eventually have to be abandoned because this level of water is going up and up and up. and eventually it'sjust not going to be sustainable for the islanders to stay on those islands because they're going to be eventually underwater. experts estimate that it might be uninhabitable by 2050, and that the hundreds of islands on the guna yala archipelago are likely to suffer the same fate in the coming decades.
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300 families were displaced from the island of gardi sugdub to isberyala, a neighbourhood on the mainland — an exodus that has been described as one of the first relocations of an entire community most of them decided to leave, but there are not enough houses in the new site for everyone. the relocation plan began more than ten years ago when there were fewer inhabitants. some families were separated. translation: since they left, the island has seemed dead. i everything is quiet, calm. there is no noise. the houses are closed, abandoned. _ however, the new settlement sometimes loses electricity, which cuts the water supply. when this happens, some people have to return to the island, where about 20 families still live.
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the same thing happens if they have a health problem. there is no medical centre in isberyala. this is one of the biggest challenges of this displacement. translation: i can live without electricity, - but i can't live without water. i come here to wash clothes. we don't use washing machines here. everything is done by hand. i do everything with water. i wash, i cook. but the guna people who moved to isberyala make efforts to maintain their identity. translation: my goal- for my granddaughter is to be able to continue my tradition. my culture is for her to learn to speak well. and she has potential. she has good grades. some hope, then, in
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a very uncertain future. donald trump has given elon musk a central role in his administration. the ambition is to reshape how government works. our analysis editor ros atkins reports on what that might mean. elon musk has a role in the us government unlike any other. we have never, ever, ever seen anything like this before in american history. musk leads the department of government efficiency, which isn't actually a department — it's an advisory group, often referred to as doge. its job is to dismantle federal bureaucracy, which musk calls "an existential threat to our republic." and now that donald trump's in power, elon musk�*s work has begun. staff at the aid agency usaid were told they'd be put on leave. staff at the cia and elsewhere have been offered payments to quit. and musk�*s team is seeking to audit all government payments.
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president trump says musk is doing a "greatjob", but we're still learning what thatjob is. it's very unclear, but it appears that president trump has given mr musk the ability to exercise almost any of mr trump's powers. all of this takes america into new territory, to the alarm of the democrats. before our very eyes, an unelected shadow government is conducting a hostile takeover of the federal government. it's not unusual for senior figures in us administrations to be unelected, and each president takes a different view on state spending. but what musk is doing is, by his own admission, different. in the us, the federal government oversees policies and services applying to the whole country, as opposed to at state level. its most recent annual budget was $6.75 trillion. this provides funds for everything from the military to education to healthcare,
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overseas aid and much more. musk wants to cut this spending by up to 30%. and while justifying this work, he's made a series of claims, including calling usaid a criminal organisation. there's no evidence of that. he shared a video claiming usaid pays hollywood stars millions to go to ukraine. as bbc verify reported, the video is fake. he claimed that usaid funded bioweapon research, including covid—i9 — again, no evidence. there are other examples too. as for the work itself, musk wants to see spending details across the government. for example, us media reports say doge got access to the treasury's vast payments system. that's now been restricted pending a review, but concerns remain. these are it systems that are very sensitive, that are typically controlled by nonpartisan career bureaucrats, and for good reason, because especially with treasury, the consequences here
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could potentially be vast for management of the national debt of america defaulting on its debt. donald trump, though, argues he promised to look at government spending, and doge is doing just that. as for who's doing the work, we haven't been told. news organisation propublica calls the team elon musk�*s demolition crew, and there are multiple reports that doge includes staff from musk�*s companies, such as spacex. but if you're looking for an official list of doge staff, so far, you won't find one. there's a broader question, too, about the law. tried it before, we don't know exactly what the boundaries of this are within the legal system that we've got. the president's creation of doge isn'tjust about how much the state spends, it's also about how much power the president has to decide this. there are laws about how policy is made and changed — they're declaring those don't apply. there are laws requiring them to spend money that's been appropriated by congress —
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they're refusing to comply with those. so, many, many of their actions are overtly unlawful. that the constitution gives the president almost absolute power. they'll be challenged on all of these things, and it will end up in the supreme court, probably sooner rather than later. whether its legal or not, it's happening. and the man leading the squeeze on federal funds receive federal funds. in fact, its estimated tesla and spacex account for at for at least $15.4 billion in government contracts over the past decade. doge may offer musk access to data that would give his businesses an advantage, but the president and his press secretary have sought to reassure. where we think there's a conflict or there's a problem, we won't let them go near it. if elon musk comes across a conflict of interest
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with the contracts and the funding that doge is overseeing, then elon will excuse himself from those contracts. by elon musk and the trump administration. and if we go back to72022, had bought twitter, he sent staff an email offering a payment if they left theirjob. the email subject was "a fork in the road", and musk claims within six months, twitter�*s headcount was down by 80%. in late january this year, more than two million federal employees received an email with a similar offer and a very similar subject line. this time, it's not twitter that's reached a fork in the road, it's america. british—based e—bike companies have expressed concern about a potential "flood" of cheaper chinese models coming into the uk. they're worried about the government's decision to remove tariffs on imports of chinese non—folding e—bikes , as our business correspondent, megan 0wen, now reports.
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on e—bikes in recent years. but now a decision to scrap tariffs on non—folding e—bikes since brexit, has been met with criticism by uk manufacturers. we were promised by the government that there would be protection of anti—dumping duties, put in place only four or five years ago, and now they have just completely turned around on that. it is a real shame for our industry specifically. the body responsible for reviewing these taxes said the decision to scrap them could save consumers £200 each. but the owner of this london shop has concerns about a flood of imports. whilst we welcome the changes to the regulations from the government which will hopefully make electric bikes more accessible and affordable to a wider audience, in the medium term we are concerned about the products
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being imported and how they comply to standards. plummeting sales post—covid have left some companies with e—bike stock to shift, others have even gone bust. the government has defended their decision to keep tariffs on folding e—bikes to protect uk producers. they say scrapping non—folding e—bike tariffs will lower prices for consumers and importers of other products. megan 0wen, bbc news. than previously thought, according to a new study. researchers looked at how human babies discover words — and applied the technique to the song of humpback wales, revealing a previously undetected language—like structure. from edinburgh university, here's professor simon kirby. what this work shows for the first time that one of the key defining features
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of language has been found in another species. of whalesong data and poured it into this mathematical model of how children learn language. what we saw was this fingerprint that we see in all human languages coming out in the whalesong. it would be really nice, wouldn't it, if we could use for whales. but actually that's not possible. and the reason is that we don't actually think whales are using their song like we use language. so in some ways, whale song is actually a bit more like what's for dinner. and it turns out there are other species that transmit
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communication culturally. so songbirds' song is learned each generation. so what's next for us is to apply this human infant inspired technique to birdsong. that has to be my favourite story of the day. that's it from me for now. have a good sunday wherever you are. thanks for being with us here on bbc news. goodbye. hello there. a rather grotty day for many of us on saturday with low grey cloud, drizzle, further outbreaks of rain, and some of that rain turned to snow over the tops of the hills in the colder air. a different story, though, further north and west, lots of blue sky and sunshine here in argyll and bute.
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it's just more of the same as we head through the next few days. so still feeling chilly, especially in exposure to that brisk easterly wind, more low grade cloud and some drizzle, further showers. but always sunnier in the north and the west in the shelter with high pressure out towards the east, the wind picking up across the southern half of the uk as we head through the day on sunday. this is how we'll begin the morning. so where you see the map tinged in blue, chance for patchy frost. perhaps lows of —7 degrees celsius underneath clear skies in the sheltered glens of scotland. but here's some brightness and some sunshine to start the day. further south and east, across england and wales in particular, a lot of cloud is starting to fill in, again, some hill fog, the cloud producing some drizzle, showers perhaps across east anglia, maybe wales and south west england. but temperature wise, we won't make it much past 5—8 celsius, a little less cold than on saturday. but more showers as that easterly wind picks up on sunday night and into monday. this is how we'll begin the new working week, again, with a bit of patchy frost,
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especially where we keep and then into the start of the week, where we'll keep that cold feeling air with high pressure out towards the north and the east, the easterly wind is picking up, it will drive in more showers. some of those showers wintry over the pennines, but some brighter skies, i think, for western wales, south west england and certainly for northern western scotland and for northern ireland. but a drop in temperature again in that now colder feeling air, factor in too. it's more of the same again on tuesday. plenty of clouds, some breaks in the cloud towards the west. this area of rain not quite making it into south west england, but do keep an eye on the forecast here. again, temperaturesjust between 5—7 celsius, improvement either as we head through the rest of the week. so we are set to stay in that colder air, perhaps something a bit brighter later on through the week. you can check the weather for your local area, of course, using our bbc weather app. bye for now.
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live from washington. this is bbc news hostages are released. but concerns are being raised about their wellbeing, with families describing shock at their appearance. and scenes of celebration in the west bank — after israel released 183 palestinian prisoners in exchange, but officials say they too were in need of medical care.
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thousands of employees of the world's largest foreign aid agency get a temporary reprieve — after a judge blocks the trump administration from placing them on paid leave. hello, i'm carl nasman. israel and hamas followed through with their fifth hostage and prisoner exchange on saturday since the ceasefire agreement went into effect three weeks ago. israel's prime minister expressed shock at the condition of the three hostages that were released by hamas. eli sharabi, 0had ben ami and 0r levy all appeared to be gaunt, frail and weak. they were freed in exchange for the release by israel of 183 palestinian prisoners — seven of whom had to be taken to hospital, according to the palestinian red crescent.
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