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over its [and policy — a move the country says, fails to recognise the history of apartheid. hello, i'm carl nasman. israel and hamas followed through with their fifth hostage and prisoner exchange on saturday since the ceasefire agreement went into effect three weeks ago. israel's prime minister expressed shock at the condition of the three hostages that were released by hamas. eli sharabi, ohad ben ami, and or levy all appeared to be gaunt, frail and weak. they were freed in exchange for the release by israel of 183 palestinian prisoners — seven of whom had to be taken to hospital, according to the palestinian red crescent. israel says its sending a delegation to doha for the next phase of ceasefire talks. from jerusalem, our reporter
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joe inwood sent this update so there's been significant anger in israel today about the three hostage handovers, partly about the way they were done. once again, we saw what looked like a very stage managed event. rows of hamas fighters and the men paraded on stage given certificates, and this time made to give interviews. but i think the greater element of anger comes from the way they look. with previous hostage exchanges, it was said that people looked superficially, reasonably well. the three men released today did not. they were incredibly gaunt. their families say they barely recognise them. and it's been confirmed by the hospital they've now been treated at that they are malnourished. and this was something that has caused real anger and upset as well. prime minister benjamin netanyahu said it was shocking and said there would be consequences. the international committee of the red cross, who facilitate the handover, they didn't comment on that, but they did say that in future they want the handover to be more dignified and in private. but i think it's important to point out that it isn'tjust
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the israeli side that have had complaints about the condition people are being handed over in. palestinian agencies as well, including the palestinian red crescent, say that all of the 183 people who were handed over had some sort of medical problems, and that seven of them needed hospital treatment. so they too have been keen to emphasise the bad we're talking here both israeli hostages and palestinian prisoners. so what does this all mean for the ongoing ceasefire? well, we're currently in stage one. that is holding, but it's feeling fairly fragile at this point. there are going to be talks taking place. the israelis are sending a delegation to qatar. it's there where the mediators are, and they're going to talk about some technical elements. and then the hope is they will move on to talking about stage two. of the remaining hostages. but that's much, much more delicate. and all of this is under the shadow of the recent
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statement by president trump that he thinks that gaza should be handed over to the us and turned into a riviera of the middle east, and that's making everything uncertain when it was already pretty difficult. for more on this i spoke to david hale — former us special envoy for middle east peace and ambassador to lebanon and jordan — — he's now a global fellow with the wilson centre. i just want your thoughts on what we saw today, specifically the conditions of the people involved in this swap on the israeli side and the palestinian side, and really what did you see there? it's a relief that the exchanges are continuing, and that innocent victims of the horrible events of october seven are being released, and obviously this is a demonstration as to why the sooner the better. obviously, people are not going to be in good health on the conditions they were being held in, and that should be investigated, by the way, but as your correspondent said,
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the real question now is what is phase two going to look like? and how are these negotiations to move into that phase going to work? do you think, you said sooner the better, what we saw today in terms of the condition of the israeli hostages, and we should say there are questions about the condition of the palestinian detainees, will that add to the urgency in terms of moving towards phase twoand getting the rest of the hostages freed? it should, and there is an enormous amount of momentum behind continuing this and completing the exchanges. the problem, of course, is they faced all the hard issues between israelis and palestinians were pushed this off into phase two and phase three, so the key question, the hardest question is, will the idf withdraw its forces fully from gaza
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as the headlines of phase two indicate, and is frankly no consensus in israel behind that. focus now turning to the talks, we know is really sending we know israel is sending a delegation to go higher and working through details on phase one, but as the talks and fails to get going, get going, to what extent do you think president trump's comments this week will cast shadow over those talks? to be honest, i don't think a little. is the president's proposals created a lot of contention, they may not have been thoroughly thought through. to me, i hold onto two positive things, and i hope others
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and he sees it as a desperate situation and wants to help. that he is committed to an american role in seen this process through for the benefit of israelis, palestinians, and a wider range of arabs, so those are two positive things we did not know before. obviously, the palestinians and arabs have suggested and arabs have rejected deeper specifics of what he offered, i don't think that has i said, nor does it have to influence at phase ii, which is very focused on continuing the release and finally the exchange of business and hostages, but in the key question, how and who is going to secure gaza? were looking at images right now of the press conference between prime minister netanyahu and donald trump, do you think in terms of what the prime minister got, a pretty big backing, really, from this new administration in the us, does that boost
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netanyahu's positioning and strength back home and could in turn then give him more leverage to assuage the far right part of his coalition and move ahead towards phase ii of the cease—fire deal? it might, and i don't think it is the prize that is an interim and prime minister netanyahu had a good meeting of the minds on these key issues, and there are a lot of things we don't know about that are equally important, the issue were focused on, gaza, i do not think it necessarily is going to resolve one way or the other. the question is if phase ii is contingent upon an israeli full withdrawal from the gaza strip, we are going to have a problem, because i personally don't think it is going to happen without any clear indication it is not secure, we have seen that from the television coverage from your own broadcasters. i wanted to touch on lebanon, you are a former us ambassador to that country, lebanon now forming a new government, there was a visit from i believe drums deputy middle east envoy there, what do you expect
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the new government in lebanon and how much influence will there be from hezbollah political arm ? hezbollah is down but not out and they may for a cease—fire because they cannot kick distraction on advance of israel, and deal we have our friends in lebanon were finally free of the shadow of iran, and it will be necessary to present you cannot have one party with arms dictated to others through the head of life and fortunes. it an issue of life and death in lebanon. thousands of employees from the us agency for international development received an email early saturday morning saying that they will now be reinstated to their posts — after a judge blocked us president donald trump from placing the workers on paid leave. the reversal happened just hours before president trump's order was to go into effect. thejudge issued a "limited"
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temporary restraining order in response to a last—minute lawsuit filed by two unions trying to save the agency. 14 at midnight. president trump's efforts to reshape america's role in foreign aid assistance has faced intense criticism at home and abroad. but he's arguing that usaid is not a valuable use of taxpayer dollars — and has taken action to put nearly all of the federal agency's 10,000 employees on leave, reducing that number to just a few hundred. president donald trump has signed an executive order freezing financial aid to south africa, after threatening to do so earlier this week. president trump said he was bringing in the order because of south africa's new land law, which he says is violating people's rights, and also because of its international court case accusing israel of genocide. south africa says the order lacks factual accuracy and fails to recoginise the history of apartheid. south africa's president has not yet responded to the order but earlier this week, he alluded to threats made by the us in a speech
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to the nation. we are witnesses the rise of nationalism, printed — particularly those in the or we will not be deterred. we are, as south africans, a resilient people, and we will not be bullied. joining me live now is michelle gavin — senior fellow for africa policy studies at the council on foreign relations. studies at the council let's studies at the council start off with what president let's start off with what president trump has said, without citing evidence, that without citing evidence that africa is confiscated south africa is confiscated land and certain classes of people were being treated badly. what is this land law the president seems so that the president seems so concerned about now, and with those concerns have merit? the land law has _ those concerns have merit? the land law has been _ those concerns have merit? tue: land law has been a those concerns have merit? tte: land law has been a long time in coming, it started work on this law in 2020 and this expropriation act now
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supersedes the old expropriation act that was on the books in south africa that was from the apartheid era. and land is a very politically contentious issue in south africa. a lot of the opposition to the enc elevates this issue and their critique of what the anc has accomplished since there's suppression. it aligns its probation methods with the constitution but provides a new section that south has section that south africa has not had before that allows for without expropriation without compensation. this is only allowable in very specific circumstances, and i think it would probably be tested in the south african courts because this is a new idea. but i think this is a new idea. but i think this is a new idea. but i think this is the issue that has so alarmed a number of people, but has any land been expropriated without composition yet, no?
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where do think the concern where do you think the concern or narrative of how did it get to the president, it is hard not to notice that elon musk, one of his top allies, is, his origins are from south africa. it is hard not to notice and elon musk has in the past made statements or tweeted state m e nts statements or tweeted statements suggesting there is a genocide in south africa aimed at white south africans, and there's absolutely no factual basis for that kind of thing at all, so i think, you know, we see across many fronts that it know, we see across many fronts thatitis know, we see across many fronts that it is a very specific narrative that may not be based in fact it seems to be informing a lot of their decisions from the white house. let's look at the impact of what president trump is doing, freezing all us aid to south africa, what kind of effect will it have on the country? first off, it is important to
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note he froze all us aid anyway, so it's a little bit comical to try and use this leverage right now when we have already kind of abandoned it, but by and large, us assistance to south africa is mostly public health at this sense, largely in the form of the issue for 77 5 issue for aids emergency issue for aids relief, helping him fighting hiv and aids. that would be a real problem because this remains a very serious public health issue and the south africans do not have a amount of fiscal tremendous amount of fiscal space which — with which to come in and fill the gap left by the us, but this relationship has many of relationship has many points of connectivity on trade, civil relationships, so it is society relationships, so it is not the be—all and end—all of cash — us — set up a car
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relations. cash - us - set up a car relations.— cash - us - set up a car relations. and you looking at it through — relations. and you looking at it through soft _ relations. and you looking at it through soft power, - relations. and you looking at| it through soft power, there's been this trend in the african continent, we have seen the us and other western nations like france been sidelined and losing their influence of those we have seen russia countries, we have seen russia and china stepping is and china stepping in, is cutting this kind of aid maybe even a missed opportunity for the us? i even a missed opportunity for the us? 4' even a missed opportunity for the us? ~ the us? i think both the way aid is been _ the us? i think both the way aid is been cut _ the us? i think both the way aid is been cut is _ the us? i think both the way aid is been cut is clearly - the us? i think both the way aid is been cut is clearly a i aid is been cut is clearly a gift to us adversaries and for influence in competitors for influence in africa, but specifically with south africa the tenor and tone of these remarks is only going to make an already difficult relationship that much more difficult. when you play the clip from president ramaphosa which cuts off right after him saying he will not be bullied, what you will hear in excess tremendous applause. the notion of the us as a neo— imperial power has real currency in
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south africa and this just helps fuel that narrative. really great to get your perspective on this, some clarity, michelle gavin, senior fellow for african policy studies at the council for relations, thank you. a us federaljudge blocked elon musk�*s department of government efficiency — also known as doge — from accessing the personal financial data of millions of americans in treasury department records. a districtjudge issued a prliminary injuction on saturday ordering musk and his team to immedidiately destroy any copies of records. on saturday ordering musk and his team to immediately destroy any copies of records. that's after 19 state attorneys general sued the trump administration when doge was given access to these records last week. there was no immediate comment from the white house. president trump has given elon musk a central role in his administration. government works in america — and, now we're now seeing what that means in practice. the bbc�*s analysis editor ros atkins has more.
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elon musk has a role in the us government unlike any other. we have never, ever, ever seen anything like this before in american history. musk leads the department of government efficiency, which isn't actually a department — it's an advisory group, often referred to as doge. its job is to dismantle federal bureaucracy, which musk calls "an existential threat to our republic." and now that donald trump's in power, elon musk�*s work has begun. staff at the aid agency usaid were told they'd be put on leave. staff at the cia and elsewhere have been offered payments to quit. and musk�*s team is seeking to audit all government payments. president trump says musk is doing a "greatjob", but we're still learning what thatjob is. it's very unclear, but it appears that president trump has given mr musk the ability to exercise almost any of mr trump's powers. all of this takes america
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into new territory, to the alarm of the democrats. before our very eyes, an unelected shadow government is conducting a hostile takeover of the federal government. it's not unusual for senior figures in us administrations to be unelected, and each president takes a different view on state spending. but what musk is doing is, by his own admission, different. in the us, the federal government oversees policies and services applying to the whole country, as opposed to at state level. its most recent annual budget was $6.75 trillion. this provides funds for this provides funds for everything from the military everything from the military to education to healthcare, to education to healthcare, overseas aid and much more. overseas aid and much more. musk wants to cut this musk wants to cut this spending by up to 30%. spending by up to 30%. and while justifying this work, and while justifying this work, he's made a series of claims, including calling usaid he's made a series of claims, a criminal organisation. there's no evidence of that. there's no evidence of that. he shared a video claiming he shared a video claiming usaid pays hollywood stars usaid pays hollywood stars millions to go to ukraine. millions to go to ukraine.
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as bbc verify reported, as bbc verify reported, the video is fake. the video is fake. he claimed that usaid he claimed that usaid funded bioweapon research, funded bioweapon research, including covid—i9 — including covid—i9 — again, no evidence. again, no evidence. there are other examples too. there are other examples too. as for the work itself, musk wants to see spending details across the government. details across the government. and there are multiple reports for example, us media for example, us media reports say doge got reports say doge got access to the treasury's access to the treasury's vast payments system. vast payments system. that's now been restricted pending a review, that's now been restricted pending a review, but concerns remain. but concerns remain. these are it systems these are it systems that are very sensitive, that are very sensitive, that are typically controlled that are typically controlled by nonpartisan career by nonpartisan career bureaucrats, and for good bureaucrats, and for good reason, because especially reason, because especially with treasury, the consequences with treasury, the consequences here could potentially be vast here could potentially be vast for management of the national for management of the national debt of america debt of america defaulting on its debt. defaulting on its debt. donald trump, though, donald trump, though, argues he promised to look argues he promised to look at government spending, at government spending, and doge is doing just that. and doge is doing just that. as for who's doing the work, as for who's doing the work, we haven't been told. we haven't been told. news organisation propublica news organisation propublica calls the team elon calls the team elon musk�*s demolition crew, musk�*s demolition crew,
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and there are multiple reports that doge includes staff from musk�*s companies, such as spacex. but if you're looking for an official list of doge staff, so far, you won't find one. there's a broader question, too, about the law. because it's never existed before and nobody�*s ever tried it before, we don't know exactly what the boundaries of this are within the legal system that we've got. the president's creation of doge isn'tjust about how much the state spends, it's also about how much power the president has to decide this.
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if they left theirjob. the email subject was "a fork in the road", and musk claims within six months, twitter�*s headcount was down by 80%. in late january this year, more than two million federal similar subject line. this time, it's not twitter that's reached a fork in the road, it's america. some breaking news to bring you — there's been a powerful earthquake near the cayman islands in the caribbean sea. the us geological survey said it had a magnitude of 7.6. a tsunami alert has been issued for most of the region , including the coast of central america, cuba andjamaica. we will bring you more on that story when we get it. the russia ukraine war is now almost three years old.
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there are now more than 50,000 ukrainian amputees — mostly in the military. for the first time, some of those veterans have an opportunity to play football, with a growing number of clubs across the country, specifically for amputees. our eastern europe correspondent sarah rainsford reports. they call themselves men of steel, and all of them amputees. vlad lost a leg in a mine explosion on the front line. just six months on, he's warming up for ukraine's first ever amputee tournament. translation: the first time i played was really hard. - it was strange to run on crutches and so fast. also, my right leg was always my strongest and that's the one i lost, so i had to learn to play all over again. translation: positive adrenaline. it's about positivity, the adrenaline, the team spirit. it lifts your mood. you're on fire inside.
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olga was a military chef. now she's a striker for kyiv — the only mixed team on the pitch. translation: i'm in shape now. my hands, arms, back are all getting strong. | she'd left her baby with her mother and signed up. she was injured when a shell landed as she slept. translation: i wanted - to protect my family and didn't want a full—scale war. unfortunately, it didn't turn out that way. - then her husband went missing in action. translation: my husband has now been missing - for two years, so for me, l this is like emotional rehab as well as physical. being back on the pitch has helped demetro cope too. he was a professional footballer when he volunteered to fight. then he lost his leg trying
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to rescue other soldiers. translation: we were told there were lots of casualties| because they'd been ambushed and we had to get them out. but we wound up in the same situation, hit with grenades, and every one of us was injured. at first, i couldn't cope and i started drinking heavily. then i heard that ukraine was launching amputee football teams. and with football, i returned to normal life. tournaments in a country where war has already created tens of thousands of amputees. sarah rainsford, bbc news, kyiv. king charles and queen camilla hosted a black—tie dinner last of their state visit to the country in the spring. and david beckham, and the
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actor stanley tucci attended cooking methods. the feast included crab, ravioli and pork, along with english and italian wine. i'm here in english one all right, i have never tried it, tit 7 it sounds it sounds a 7 it sounds a great it sounds a great menu. before we go — some live pictures from the superdome in new orleans — where the kick—off for the super bowl is about 2k hours away. america's most high profile sporting event will feature the philadelphia eagles taking on the kansas city chiefs, super bowl in a row. the half—time show performed by lamar. stay tuned will kendrick lamar. stay tuned will be at the top of the hour. hello there. a rather grotty day for many of us on saturday with low grey cloud, drizzle, further outbreaks of rain, and some of that rain turned to snow over the tops of the hills in the colder air.
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it's just more of the same as we head through the next few days. so still feeling chilly, especially in exposure to that brisk easterly wind, more low grade cloud and some drizzle, further showers. but always sunnier in the north and the west in the shelter of that easterly wind, which we are set to keep with high pressure out towards the east, the wind picking up across the southern half of the uk as we head through the day on sunday. this is how we'll begin the morning. so where you see the map tinged in blue, chance for patchy frost. perhaps lows of —7 degrees celsius underneath clear skies in the sheltered glens of scotland. but here's some brightness and some sunshine to start the day. further south and east, across england and wales in particular, a lot of cloud is starting to fill in, again, some hill fog, the cloud producing some drizzle, showers perhaps across east anglia, maybe something a little brighter developing out towards western wales and south west england. but temperature wise, we won't make it much past 5—8 celsius, a little less cold than on saturday. but more showers as that easterly wind picks up on sunday night and into monday.
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this is how we'll begin the new working week, again, with a bit of patchy frost, especially where we keep those clear skies in the north and the west. and then into the start of the week, where we'll keep that cold feeling air with high pressure out towards the north and the east, the easterly wind is picking up, it will drive in more showers. some of those showers wintry over the pennines, but some brighter skies, i think, for western wales, south west england and certainly for northern western scotland and for northern ireland. but a drop in temperature again in that now colder feeling air, and there will be a lot of added wind chill factor in too. it's more of the same again on tuesday. plenty of clouds, some breaks in the cloud towards the west. this area of rain not quite making it into south west england, but do keep an eye on the forecast here. again, temperaturesjust between 5—7 celsius, so below the seasonal average, and there won't be too much improvement either as we head through the rest of the week. so we are set to stay in that colder air, perhaps something a bit brighter later on through the week. you can check the weather for your local area, of course, using our bbc weather app.
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