tv The Presidents Path BBC News February 9, 2025 11:30am-12:03pm GMT
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the first president of independent namibia has died at the age of 95. as "founding father of the namibian nation" place in new orleans later — as the eagles take on the chiefs in the super bowl. american football's big night. now on bbc news, the president's path. sumi, you're somewhere very exotic today. where are you? family is from, from a tiny village there. and, courtney, i think this is where your dad's from, right? it is, yeah. that's my dad's hometown. big fan of chennai.
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and, actually, that's also where former vice—president kamala harris' family is from as well. yeah, that's correct. i was thinking, you know, we have a subramanian but we somehow manage! luckily, we have caitriona perry, which is a lot more pronounceable! one with the irish spelling. so many vowels. spelling challenges! because, of course, narendra modi is due here next week to visit donald trump. this week with the visit of prime minister of israel neta nyahu. but what's the expectation there of the modi visit? yeah, super interesting time
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actually to be here, you know, there's such interest in the second trump term and what's happening in the us at the moment. but, you know, we know that the us and india are very donald trump and the indian prime minister, narendra modi, are said to have a very good, strong, warm relationship, at the same time, you do sense a little bit of apprehension of the tariff threat that we saw the trump administration wield towards close allies, and our colleagues at bbc news delhi had a really about the us—india
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trade relationship. and i'lljust mention our colleagues�* names as a shout—out to them because this is a really great week, so ahead of this meeting that modi is going to have with donald trump, india actually lowered import duties on a number of goods, including heavy and so, for heavy motorcycles, for example, from 50% and, you know, if you look at the overall trade volume india imported, so not, you know, a big trade volume, but this is about messaging to the trump administration to say, we're ready to make a good deal. this at the same time as india accepted this plane back, carrying more than 100 indian nationals who had entered the us illegally, so, obviously, something that the trump administration is very keen to have from allies. and, you know, this all
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against the backdrop, administration, that he was very critical of india, saying it was the tariff king and that it had very unfair trade practices, and so you get the sense here that this is a delicate line that allies are trying to walk with this trump administration to ensure that they are on the right side of the playing field here with donald trump and that they feel that both sides have, you know, a mutual deal to give. i mean, iwonder, you know, courtney, i know that covering narendra modi and that us relationship, but what your sense is of how that's being of how much the power dynamics have shifted on the world stage, particularly because, you know, modi is treated as a rock star everywhere he goes, right? and we saw him in washington
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for a state dinner. they rolled out the red carpet there. you know, it wasjust an absolute spectacle, right? administration foreign policy on containing china, right? and here we are with, you know, it almost feels like india is on the back foot here. coming here, you know, meeting with donald trump seeing him threaten, you know, to allies, as we saw with canada and mexico, as you pointed out. and so i find it so interesting how quickly, you know, the worldview has shifted and people are really...
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you know, import duties. i mean, how do you feel about it, catriona? yeah, for me, i think it's really interesting, obviously, the first honour went to the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu. the second foreign leader to visit the white house — and then the king ofjordan — he'll be here before modi at the start of next week. and that could be quite a contentious interaction there, especially his latest thing which, you know, has just been discussed wall to wall on every other output that we have on the bbc and elsewhere about this plan
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views the people of gaza should stay in gaza, so that will be an interesting conversation. of those, and the first trump administration, the first policy of this administration has really shifted and, but they've met so many times — donald trump has been to india. who can forget namaste trump? and i think we're seeing with president trump now that he's really leaning on those interpersonal relationships that he forged through his first administration.
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on a phone call, to come to washington and get in a room with him, right? it's about convincing him of your worldview, you know, convincing him that, you know, whatever their agenda donald trump's foreign policy view, and i think that is part of why you probably saw the indian prime ministerjump and really lean into that bromance. the fact that he had these very close relationships we did see the indian
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foreign minister actually at the inauguration in the capital, jaishankar, donald trump as an american nationalist but that he's as you're describing. have a presence in mexico, that have suppliers in mexico, and could be hit by these tariffs as well. so there are concerns about, obviously, the specific economic interests of us allies in the region, important for the us, but also the larger global picture of this america first tariff agenda implemented but,
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you know, as you both pointed out, it could be or something that really is implemented depending on how we've seen it now with canada and mexico and even with india, linking it to immigration and as you mentioned, sumi, that first flight that arrived with the 100 but he hasn't actually, with the exception of china, which also i think is really interesting that, you know, it's a carrot and stick type of thing and, you know, brush and so wide sweeping and they don't have a time
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countries to try and deal with. but i've been kind of looking into what's because it's been really interesting. several times a day. i mean, courtney, colleagues at the white house press beside him. and, of course, in the first administration, that was always jared kushner and ivanka trump and people often wondered, you know, what their specific roles were. but this week, when president trump was signing that sovereign wealth fund, rupert murdoch, the media mogul, extremely wealthy man, another billionaire. he was flanked on either side by his treasury secretary,
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scott bessent, a billionaire, and his commerce secretary, 0bviously, donald trump himself says he's a very wealthy man. on wall street, they're actually very happy to see that because they think that those people who have such big wealth want the impact of that. who's around and who he's giving shout—outs to as he's what's your guys�* view on that? it has to be the wealthiest cabinet in history. his ambassador picks, right? a long—time friend and donor
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and as the ambassador you know, into the riviera of the middle east, right? and it's these people who are in the room with him. all learned from covering donald trump is, you know, his worldview is he's just trying to win the day, right? thinking about something, you know, influencing, you know, what might come out of his mouth in the next and that extends, of course, to foreign policy in but also with those advisers who are around him day in,
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and i think having these, you know, ceos who are not only, you know, according to wall street, people looking out for the economy but also looking out coming out of the white house. something that is not at all going to detract for him, perhaps except for elon musk. initially at elon musk�*s influence in the us treasury department, accessing payment systems and, that could prove to be a bit more unpopular among
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is to improve the way that the us government operates more like a business coming into the administration. i'm looking forward to, in the next coming weeks, getting back out into those swing states that we visited before the election and see how much of any of this is even because a lot of it has actually yet to impact their lives, and he is only in office two and a half weeks, there already for a year, given everything that he's done! i mean, nothing has changed in grocery prices or fuel prices, but they are very difficult things to change, yeah. i mean, i think the elon musk narrative here has been you know, completely level some agencies, right?
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but i think, because they are so limited in, at this point. they're really struggling, it seems, on messaging moment of protest, which doesn't seem to be landing, groups and left—leaning organisations who've expressed, to vocalise their so—called resistance. well, it really highlights for me just how the american
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he's pushing everything to the limit. actions, but it seems like that's the limit. they don't have a leader, they don't have someone who is kind of going head to head with donald trump, you know, even in clips on the media, social media and so on. if you're a democrat, you're kind of saying, well, who's in charge here now of our party? where's our party going? you could say that it's the courts that will be leading this resistance this time as these lawsuits are launched from donald trump, for example, on birthright citizenship, you wonder how much of that again, really, and we'll have
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on the one hand, you have programmes like pepfar, some discomfort over. that the trump administration has been pointing to that seem perhaps needs to be, if not radically reformed, then done away with altogether, and so it's going to be and then, on the other hand, also how much support there is among the american people. well, then, where do things go from here? i think successive governments
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have done a poorjob in general because it's very easy to say, well, but if you haven't been messaging for many years helping those who are less well off, and also, i mean, protest yesterday talking about the importance to us military priorities of usaid, that soft power in countries where they maybe don't have a great view of the us
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