on their lives? to trust influencers than older generations, maybe. the uk would be better off if a strong leader parliament and elections.

of these findings? disruptions. and you said yourself young people have never been about the impacts it's having. hours of video a day. so it's a really different skew in terms of where they're getting their information from. lives. so they're really used to that. all available information. fact from fiction. and one of the impacts of that is that the concept of trust as we would know it, vertical, hierarchical to grapple with and it's having impacts on society.

disengagement. let's just go for a dictator. i think that's probably understandable, given governments. that's understandable. "i think feminism has gone far enough. impacting me, "even if there is not evidence of that." kind of playing to that emotion. in positive pathways for young men. particularly social content viewed alone — it does have an impact because you tend to discuss less with other people what the perspectives are, and that leads to increasing radicalisation across

geordie greig from the independent. quantity of people with their different way of thinking. i a hunger for authenticity. all these things. we have found since - the independent, we became a wider media company. and we bought buzzfeed

and we've seen growth, i we've seen engagement, true is evolving. consider how they decide

what is true or not true. with geordie that there are very many smart, that's why we see people reading conspiracy theories more than they ever have before. information—saturated environment, young people have a response to it. perspectives on alex's ideas. the first point that you made was around prominence, the idea that if in the traditional tv world public

gets on electronic programming guides and so on, you're looking for a digital equivalent. so, first of all, i think britain is in a really good place. like, strong regulation here. here and newspapers. which was the other big technical intervention, we put lots of controls on it. we put, like, public service channels in first position. we made sure that there was a healthy diet. so i'm saying, well, why don't you consider, if people don't want to watch but let's make it really easy

for them to find and make sure it's in the feed. david rhodes, you are american. does the idea of the kind of intervention that alex is it something that sits easily with you? can i be blunt? we've got to keep government out ofjournalism. _ you can be blunt, but i'd also like to hear the end well, look, ithink there's two reasons now. after that. which as news organisations, i we are supposed to be sceptical

of if we try to attach some i seal of approval to the things that we do. produced by people who have a street address that you can broadcasting? i would consider that newspapers and other broadcasters are in that too. they are regulated by ofcom. my kids recognised that.

your kids recognised that, it was simple. i mean, look, it's katie's, it's ross's job to ask because i think, alex, and one of the most compelling is the degree to which this audience cohort trusts as much might call elite opinion or establishment opinion. here's what i think is the unintended consequence. they feel about trust, is the government entering going to give you as much prominence, isn't that

a valid source or not. and clearly, i'm not suggesting that you could buy a blue tick, from the edelman trust barometer, you know, is at a ten—year low. so one has to also take into account that the audience doesn't trust all of these organisations anymore and give what they choose to believe. you can't ignore that that's how the audience feels. and i think, you know,

we have shown that trusted, in reputation. to mark our homework, for an independent body looking atjournalism. quality journalism can grow. to back this up, that when people consume content they might watch one of david's colleagues�* videos, not "i saw a great video from sky." and so devices that help people realise where things are coming

for news and clinging to brands which they trust. got planned with sky news. you've got this big, new strategy that's been widely reported. and for people who haven't seen any of the reporting, what's the plan? ok, so we talked about our... we're calling it sky news 2030. that's really built for a digital future. and there's aspects to all of those. and i know that listeners to the media show are not now, content that you can't find anywhere else you probably

means, that you can no longer just move around bits you know, here's, like, the temperatures that like, that kind of thing, we need to, as an industry, and, look, some weeks that's our international report.

of content that your journalists will be offering people listening? are they paying for all of sky news, or are you saying you're offering bits that they have to pay announced it's doing? it's got a social importance. it is an important part of our offering. there will be paid—for experiences and there'll be that are a little bit less than a direct paid relationship. and as you're both listening to this, alex from channel 4 do you have concerns that there simply isn't an overall pool of subscription money, or paid—for content

we remain supremely confident the independent will always be i know, but there's... hiring new people. we had one million purchases via our indybest site this year. we have six million newsletters. we've just done a documentary on aung san suu kyi called calling for the burmese leader to be freed. have impact, bring readers in, hold them. journalism which we're about, you can all get lost in the weeds of regulation.

you've just got to do it. if we don't make money, we go bust. we are not subsidised by government, as you are. we have to be earning money, making money, thinking with all these different aspects to us. up all these subscriptions, there are too many, - people, it's a mixed economy. and pay and pay. an ad service as well. from bill gates, the

co—founder of microsoft. he's got a new autobiography out, which looks at the early part of his life and, unfortunately, not me, but, katie, you've been interviewing him? well, i have, and reading the book, you really get a sense of the wonder and excitement he felt as a kid about technology. and nowadays, of course, people have real concerns about tech. so that was one of the things when i went to seattle, used in excess. uh, and... people really think their kids are on their phones too much and they should get out. well, i think that's legitimate. same thing with video games, you know. they�* re. . . overall they can be fine, but if you don't kind of things, you know, then that can be a problem. than video gaming, you know, can absorb your time and can make you worry about, you know, are other people approving you?

it gets used. up until then, it's mostly a story of empowerment. i can write a great document. but now, you know, we know, and as things move forward, this will be even more true, we have to think a lot about particularly how kids use it, but also even what adults do. is going to try to do that, i think it'll be fascinating

the world's fair century 21, and you say the message would bring peace. now, for all your success at microsoft and obviously are you worried about the concentration of power you know, i don't know how much power they have, about because people are more polarised. as ai is becoming more powerful, having the government so i worry about politics. i don't think it's a mistake for tech people to talk

i think donald trump... and how we help poor countries, which is a big focus of mine now, and i wanted to share with him how i thought about that. so have you met him recently? yeah, i had dinner with him december 27th. so i agree, you know, talking to donald trump, in saving lives or whatever, you're probably wise so you're not cynical about their motives?

you can be cynical. you know, when i started microsoft, i had this crazy and i thought, "well, isn't this amazing? so, it's not necessarily a virtue to, you know,

checkers any longer. should he remove it? and i think the online information, you know, bears some responsibility for those deaths. sadly, neither government nor private companies, you can cite examples where, ok, it's great that free speech and you can cite examples like the covid vaccine and even today people may not realise that.

mark zuckerberg has? facing this problem. but they've gotten rid of crazy, xenophobic, you know, things. and we should all benefit from that model. and i'd be the first to say that the challenge of those issues are going to be more important and more difficult so there's you, katie, speaking with bill gates. so i assume another edition, w ,, ,, this is going to be a three—volume autobiography,

then we're going to get another instalment and another one, so don't worry. when? we'll see. i hope so. that will be coming up on the media show if that happens in time to come. but for now, thank you very much forjoining us. bye— bye. bye. podcasts. hello. the waves onto the beaches. liscombe in devon. the seasonal average. now, looking at the weather over the next few days still dominated by high pressure to our east,

in from the west. are starting to try to clear in the highlands, and so there as we start your wednesday morning. wednesday grey cloudy start to the day, then cold again. there will be some sunshine though in shetland, and there are signs that we should see the cloud break up in orkney, probably parts of highland and also the western isles, but otherwise expect the cloud to stay with us. now, four to six celsius at best. really. nevertheless, there will still be a lot of cloud being blown across the uk.

we might actually see some rain arrive from one of those fronts in the atlantic, so that could well bring some rain the fronts then kind of stall on friday across these western across these western areas, it's likely the rain will become increasingly light and patchy before completely fading away. further eastwards, you might see a few breaks in the cloud so a few sunny spells here and there, temperatures not really changing much again, four to six degrees for most of us into the weekends. forecast. weather and perhaps some brightness.

live from singapore, this is bbc news. the gaza ceasefire will end if hamas does not return hostages by noon on saturday. trump insisting the us will take �* gaza as he is us will take over gaza as he is the king the jordanian king in washington. and an american school teacher is released from a russian from the russians. the australian footballer sam kerr in court over

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