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heard annoyance about how long it has taken to 5 simon 1is heard annoyance about how long it has taken to g simonjones was downing street and he gave assessment of what we have been an absolutely through an absolutely horrendous experience and who over the last 18 months felt over the last 18 months they had to fight they have really had to fight for accountability and today have inside downing and feel the 77 and feel the fight street and they feel the fight has paid off, so what we are :—: -= :—: z—z :-= z inquiry will be public therefore be able to compel attend and answer people to attend and answer questions, so what the families egéitififii. $1? fifiét iii? féfiiiiéj to egéiiififiig $1? fifiéi iii? féfiiliéi to hear from egéiiififiig $1? fifiéi iii? féfiiliéi to hearfrom are egéiiififiig $1? fifiéi iii? féfiiliéi to hear from are the egéiiififiig $1? fifiéi iii? féfiiliéi to hear from are who medical professionals who dealt with valdo calocane in the medical professionals who dealt with valdo calocane in the withilaldo calocane in the , before the killings, and months before the killings, and they want to hear from the wa nt want to 7 n they want to hear from the police who had dealings with had with calocane the months valdo calocane in the months valdo calocane in the months “p valdo calocane in the months up to the killings, and leading up to the killings, and
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also want they also want the crown prosecution service but under under the spotlight because prosecutors decided to accept a plea of manslaughter on the basis of diminished responsibility rather than pursuing murder charges. certainly a lot of smiles from the families because they felt they have been listened to by they have been listened to by the prime minister but it was notjust a prime minister at the meeting, to give you a sense of how widespread the inquiry is likely to be, we had the health secretary inside downing street, the home secretary, the justice secretary, thejustice secretary, gives secretary, the justice secretary, gives a sense of how wide scale this inquiry is going to be and we are told it could begin within weeks and it may take a few years to reach its conclusions but certainly you get a sense of urgency here and the families feeling that they will at least get a chance of getting some answers to the questions that have dogged them for so long since the killings. just briefly, it was
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interesting, because big smiles across the faces of the families and also thanks to the media who have highlighted this so much but also towards the end, realanger, describing it as shameful the way they have had to fight to get to this moment. had to fight to get to this moment-— had to fight to get to this moment. ., ., ., ., .,, moment. you have had almost from the word _ moment. you have had almost from the word go _ moment. you have had almost from the word go these - moment. you have had almost. from the word go these families saying there are questions that haven't been answered, so they feel these deaths were preventable, the deaths of their loved ones, and they feel no one has been held properly accountable for what has happened, and they say last week there was a report published by the nhs into what went wrong and that found nhs professionals did not properly assess valdo calocane and realises danger but they say reading that it was heartbreaking and it was making them more determined to come to downing street today to get those answers. so smiles on their faces but it has been a
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very long journey for the families and they feel they have had to fight really harder than they should for families who have been through such a traumatic experience, but they feel the odds have been stacked against them, but today was a sigh of relief and they say they may go off to the pub for a drink because finally they have come here and got what they were demanding, we have got the full statutory inquiry which is due to begin very soon. ,, ., which is due to begin very soon, ,, ., g ., , which is due to begin very soon. ,, ., , soon. simon jones in downing street there. _ the bbc can reveal the security service m15 lied to three courts while defending one of its agents — a misogynistic neo—nazi who attacked his girlfriend with a machete. m15 said it had stuck to its policy of never confirming or denying informants identities, but a bbc investigation proved that was untrue. m15 has now issued an unreserved apology to the bbc and all three courts. the government has ordered an investigation into why the service gave false evidence. daniel de simone has the story.
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it began with this man — an m15 agent and misogynistic neo—nazi known as x, filmed here attacking his then partner with a machete. ultimately, his position within the security services was used to terrorise me. his former girlfriend, known by the alias beth, says he used his role as an m15 agent, meaning a paid and authorised informant, to coerce her. i couldn't speak out against any of his behaviour towards me because he had men in high places who always had his back and who would actively kill me.
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because m15 says it never confirms agent identities to anyone and had never done so with x, judges ordered secret hearings to which beth and her lawyers wouldn't have access. she appealed the decision at the high court. you are not entitled to know what is being said about you, you might be being called a liar. the most beth would have been able to know at the end of a case was whether she had won or lost, and she would never be able understand why. in all the court cases, m15 maintained that no one from the organisation had ever
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confirmed or denied that x was an agent. the problem — it was a lie. when i challenged m15, they insisted they had told the truth. we invited them here to the bbc to play their lawyers a recording that revealed otherwise. "hi, it's daniel." the senior m15 officer claimed x hadn't been violent. we pretty strongly assess he wasn't responsible for doing the things that have been alleged, such as the machete incident. m15 has now issued an unreserved apology full responsibility. the corporate m15 witness whose statement was false says he thought he was telling the truth. m15 says it is conducting an internal investigation which may result in disciplinary reaction. the senior officer who called me said he had been legally
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authorised to tell me that x was an agent. that means it was signed off by lawyers and other seniorfigures in m15. their policy also states the home office and cabinet office should have been informed. there is now pressure on mis�*s director general sir ken mccallum to explain what he knew. i think this raises real concerns about mis�*s transparency and about what steps, if any, it is taking to vet and monitor informants who may pose a serious risk to women. due to our new revelations, beth will return to court for a new decision on whether her case can be heard in the open. one woman seeking the truth amid official secrets and lies.
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