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what president putin means. what president putin means. what president putin means is the opposite, it means he will go back to fighting — opposite, it means he will go back to fighting in six months once he has got — to fighting in six months once he has got the first tranche of what he has got the first tranche of what he has been _ has got the first tranche of what he has been promised. i don't know who his has been promised. idon't know who his russian— has been promised. i don't know who his russian advisers are but they ought _ his russian advisers are but they ought to— his russian advisers are but they ought to know that. we his russian advisers are but they ought to know that.— his russian advisers are but they ought to know that. we are going to hear from a — ought to know that. we are going to hear from a ukrainian _ ought to know that. we are going to hear from a ukrainian mp. - putin is not sincere, he will not
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conduct the negotiations in good faith. he will use it for political and propagandistic goals, but he will not renounce his ultimatum and he will continue to demand absolutely absurd demands with regards to ukraine. 50 i think that president trump will soon get disappointed.
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president trump will soon get disappoin was high? president trump will soon get disappoin was in lei today §ggr§tary was in brussels today next to §gyreyary was in brussels today next to pete §eyreyary was in brussels today next to pete hesgeth the sitting next topetehesgeth theroew defence secretary who said that us defence secretary who said that europe to take care of its europe needs to take care of its own security and john healy said to him, europe needs to take care of its own securii next john healy said to him, europe needs to take care of its own securii next to hn healy said to him, europe needs to take care of its own securii next to him, ialy said to him, europe needs to take care of its own securii next to him, we said to him, europe needs to take care of its own securii next to him, we hearto him, are and we �* that we you are saying and we hear that we need to step up on security, we heard yea; 5° keen z = keen to say 77 keen to say that 77 keen to say that they are very keen to say that they are getting on with it and with getting on with it a, . .' . .' administration. with the us out of the icture administration. with the us out of the picture . the _ administration. with the us out of the picture . the europeans - administration. with the us out of| the picture . the europeans step to htoifilli ’ w if w wwtoninwthheww ' w w w w wwtoninwthhewgapw w w w to fill the gap realistically? to fill the gap realisticallyw?w iwwww in to fill the gap realistically? i mean, not right now, don't mean notrid u. n.�* h. idon't mean. not right now. i don't think i don't think defence , , 7. e close to what 2 is in% is 2 the? close to what 2 is in% is; the implications iat m this co be ond ukraine and the of this go'beyond flkraine'and th, of this go'beyond ukraine'and the _ m— of this go'beyond fikrains'and the of what pete of this go'beyond fikraineand the of what pete exit said implications of what pete exit said i m— implications of what pete exit said brussels go far beyond ukraine. m he is sa in basicall what he is saying basically is, guys, — what he is saying basically is, guys, europe is not our priority any our guys, europe is not our priority any - our priority— guys, europe is not our priority any our priority is over there in
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more. our priority is over there in the - chine _ more. our priority is over there in the china. been the east. china this has beerscteal im— the east. china this has beerscteal - almost decade the east. china this has beersctear almost decade now that that is for almost a decade now that that is america _ for almost a decade now that that is america 's_ for almost a decade now that that is america 's priority. but the arherisa is prierit�*.’ but the _ priorities are amerisa is orierity but the ,, priorities are shifting. american priorities are shifting. administrations have tried previous administrations have tried to keep _ previous administrations have tried to keep their in baskets. to kee-dtheire '. u | -. .- weare to keen their eggs in both baskets. we are seeing suddenly now with to keen their eggs in both baskets. traumae seeing suddenly now with to keen their eggs in both baskets. traumae seeing sudde as now with to keen their eggs in both baskets. traumae seeing sudde as they with to keen their eggs in both baskets. openly e seeing sudde as they with to keen their eggs in both baskets. openly saying, ; sudde as they with to keen their eggs in both baskets. openly saying, marcoi as they with to keen their eggs in both baskets. openly saying, marcoi as the the ih ze.e.=: z:- :e_—: zfie said, the new secretary of state said, the new - world _ secretary of state said, the new world order was an aberration polar world order was an aberration it is polar world order was an aberration - it is over— polar world order was an aberration - it is over and _ polar world order was an aberration it is over and america is no and it is over and america is no longer— and it is over and america is no longer top _ and it is over and america is no longer top dog, there are other j: -= w w there we are --oin to powers there and we areigf- , powers there and we are—goingto m powers there and we are—goingto do about it. powers there and we areigoing to do about it. it been clear it is comin but nowr is been clear it is comin but nowr is ha- --enin. i is comin but now is happening. it; coming but now 1 is happening. it is oming but now 1 is happening. it is now, 1 but now 1 is happening. it is now, it rut now 1is happening. it is now, it is now 1 is happ said |. it is now, it is now 1 is happ said |. it is now, corks ow 1 is happ said |. it is now, corks would popping e efifé’e www’j ’,f popping ir; a e page www’j ’,f popping in moscoww.w ww ww ww popping in moscow.w gabriel has be popping in moscow. gabriel has pointed out that in six months bhtir! be pointed out that in six months titttit! be back. pointed out that in six months butin be back. what president putin wittrbe' tractrwhat think president putin witt'be' tractrwhat think this means for new order? slow down a little bit. to steer down a tittte are th’e’enty”" ’ ’ '” ”"' that been agreed to today there is going to a meeting
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is there is going to be a meeting between trump and putin in saudi is there is going to be a meeting betwee everything 1 putin in saudi is there is going to be a meeting betwee everything else in in saudi is there is going to be a meeting betwee everything else is in saudi w w trump is at... w taking greenland w taking greenland or w taking greenland or panama w taking greenland or panama orw about taking greenland or panama or whatever. the only material they to was that. to the agreed to today was thatoto the there is a extent there is a negotiation there are a of different people are a lot of different people in this negotiation. involved in this negotiation. the first is has to or not a-ree to a or not agree to a peace and they w andw theyare w told and they are w told from from america, no more aid, no nato, bythe way have to pay $500 million by us your minerals the giving us your minerals and the europeans, we are not the ground. and russia your 752775527 your terwritory men be w raped and the killed, the women raped and the children kidnapped, why should ukraine's accept that? that the ukraine's accept that? that is the thing. second is, if
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wa nt to want to do that deal it they want to do that deal it , europeans to go requires europeans supposedty’to go and this. trump cannot in and defend this. trump cannot just promise the europeans without in and defend this. trump cannot jusi europeans re europeans without in and defend this. trump cannot jusi europeans agreeing ans without in and defend this. trump cannot jusi europeans agreeing an that. out europeans do w europeans do that? if the the europeans do that? !f the. and british soldiers are europeans and british soldiers are to be sitting on the ground supposed to be sitting on the ground and defending ukraine, what happens when the russians start firing on them? ., ., them? that is a very good question. we have them? that is a very good question. - we have worked _ them? that is a very good question. - we have worked in - them? that is a very good question. - we have worked in ukraine | t2": there -... there through 5nd have been there through times, you have friends ukrainians. is w ukrainians. is the who are ukrainians. what is the there?
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coming down the tracks. again, and i was somewhat surprised early on that votodymyr _ was somewhat surprised early on that volodymyr zelensky did not become wwwwwwwiwuwho . 7 m w ywwoknowhat? crimea is -oner. ? crimea is i goner. possibly, i maybe crimea is a goner. possibly, - earlier— maybe crimea is a goner. possibly, - earlier on. _ maybe crimea is a goner. possibly, earlier on, this could have maybe crimea is a goner. possibly, e this' on, this could have maybe crimea is a goner. possibly, e this will this could have maybe crimea is a goner. possibly, e this will thii with .d have maybe crimea is a goner. possibly, e this will thii with ukraine ended. this will end with ukraine using _ ended. this will end with ukraine using - that _ ended. this will end with ukraine using that is how is using territory. . u u to using terrr�*ay4heerehewrere - m— using terrr�*ay4heem—hawd—rs - to end, that using territory. that is hot-t it is to end, that has been going to end, that hasatways been. thought going to end, that hasatways been thought volodymyr zelensky bein- a career politician, 2 being a career poliwian, but é not being a career politician, but being _ not being a career politician, but being a — not being a career politician, but being a comedian ended up in the presidency by a tragicomic presidency almost bye tragic... presidency almost bye tragtmmm w presidency almost bye tragtmmm then at crucial n zoo—e n he could have —e been moment, i thought he could have been the one _ moment, i thought he could have been the one to _ moment, i thought he could have been the one to say i know that by the onetcrsayi know ti-ratby -w_ the onetcrsayi know ti-ratby -m— the onetcrsayi know that by away this bit, crimea, ww.—i zi,-— w--1 m if iam putting. end to i us say, i am putting an end to my political— us say, i am putting an end to my political - in _ us say, i am putting an end to my political in ukraine because political career in ukraine because that would — political career in ukraine because that would have political that would have been political suicide, — that would have been political suicide, but so be it because i am poiitician. didn’t go road z _: road and we are now . road and we are now in-
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—— of that where losing some of that territory will i forced — where losing some of that territory will forced upon him. as will be forced upon him. est." tie said, will be forced upon him. see; - said. l eh; trips as some kind and non—european troops as some kind of peacekeeping force along the 1000 mile front uk perhaps 1000 mile front line, uk troops, france, poland, said, if russia attacks, they as you said, if russia attacksrthey to be robust enough to respond. pete w w wpete hegg pete hegg seth w pete hegg seth sain quite and pete hegg seth said quite clearly— and pete hegg seth said quite clearly that any will 7 -7777 be there uner article - be there uner article five - not be there under article five which — not be there under article five which means an attack what is an which means an attack on what is a. on which means an attack on what is all -m_ which means an attack on what is an on all, so an attack on any 7 -7 7 7 troops would mean w - troops would mean all l 2 troops would mean all ow of these troops would mean all of nato _ of these troops would mean all of nato g is— of these troops would mean all of nato 21; is not going to nato and that is not going to so nato and that is not going to - so that— nato and that is not going to so that plug has been hapggn. so that has b- - | if! hapggn. so that has b- - | m hapggn. so that lu has been hapggn. so that plug has been in a way. it is sort of pulled, in a way. so it is sort of - how— pulled, in a way. so it is sort of - how this— pulled, in a way. so it is sort of 1 how this will and how europeans are to respond
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are i to respond w 71111; e39}; ér'wv'viii'fiiéké £55353 to this, how they will make this work— to this, how they will make this work and — to this, how they will make this work and the americans are kind of saying _ work and the americans are kind of saying they— work and the americans are kind of saying they don't want anything to do with— saying they don't want anything to do with it. — saying they don't want anything to do with it, really. the weird thing about— do with it, really. the weird thing about whole thing is trump a . . . -tohethe— a . . . -to he the big— about this whole thing is that trump to be the big dog in the room, 77 7 -77 7 _77 to be the 7n to be the7n who 7 to be the7n who ; swing he likes to be the man who can swing inand— he likes to be the man who can swing inand make— he likes to be the man who can swing in and make a deal. at same in and make a deal. at the same time, _ in and make a deal. at the same tinre, he— in and make a deal. at the same time, he said his defence secretary 7 _7 7 7 chuck away all w chuck away all of w chuck away all of his w chuck away all of his leveraged.7 to chuck away all of his leveraged. as you _ to chuck away all of his leveraged. as you said — to chuck away all of his leveraged. as you said to sebastien gorka, saying we pulling and i§2sa- we are --ullin support and are not jg2saying we are pulling support and are not going to be sending there will be no securi troops and there will be no security guarantees. 0k, troops and there will be no security guarantees. ok, so is your guarantees. ok, so where is your bil guarantees. ok, so where is your _ big dog? _ guarantees. ok, so where is your big dog? gn guarantees. ok, so where is your bi do? . leveraged, big dog? goths; it. thank ou ve leveraged, big dog? goths; ' - - it. thank you very of believe it. thank you very both of you. on point we will leave for more insights on thes dramatic developments, you can listen to the latest episode of ukrainecast on bbc sounds.
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uk, and dr marie tidball, labour mp for penistone welcome to both of you. know you were listening intently to the conversation. gdp figures are out at 7am tomorrow. britain's financial watchdog has told rachel reeves that she has run out of financial headroom. we read into the leak is what said this morning is what bloomberg said this morning is what bloomberg said this morning is no true, is that the 77 for 7 responsibility foicetorrbudget responsibility has to deliver a fiscal which has to detiver a fiscal on the which has to deliver a fiscal on the 26th of march is to say to the chancellor that going to say to the chancellor that have almost no room that you have almost no wiggle room that the billion fiscal headroom you 77777777777t7h7977777 .. . . .. . . 7 77 77 77 the7time 7 7777 77the7timeof 7 wth7e7t7ir7n7e7 ofthe7budg7e7t 7 7 had around the time of the budget has gone that is down to has gone and that is down to growth and interest rates sluggish growth and interest rates coming down more slowly and
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high borrowing costs. persistently. high borrowinocosts. mea ns persistently. high borrowingcosts. mea ns that persistently. high borrowingcosts. means that the chancellor on warning. what is it saying? jobs are | down 3496 in . first ten e; on that means that the chancellor is on course, it looks like, not to meet 7w7 777i7tlooks7li7ke,777 777 7 777i7tlooks7li7ke7, 7 77 777wm7eet 7 7 771145317777 7 her fiscal rule, fiscal thich isw course, it looks like, not to meet herfiscal rule, which is by 2029—30 fiscal7 7 which is 7 72029—730 herfiscal rule, which is by 2029—30 you cannot borrow for day—to—day borrow for day—to—day you cannot borrowcfor dayzto—day if you are not you cannot borrow for day—to—day spending if you are not meeting spending if you are not meeting that. your are cut spending that. your options are cut spending that. your options are cut spending and increase taxes. you and increase taxes. you that. your options are cut spending and increase taxes.— that. your options are cut spending and increase taxes.— and increase taxes. you run britain's _ and increase taxes. you run britain's largest _ and increase taxes. you run| and increase taxes. you run britain's _ and increase taxes. you run britain's largest _ and increase taxes. you run| britain's largest recruitment britain's largest recruitment and see the jobs data company and you see the and what re the jobs data and what is the jobs data and what is it e jobs data and what is it telling data and what is it telling you every month. what is it telling you every month. what is it telling you right now? it now? it every month. what is it telling you now? 1 every month. what is it telling you every month. what is it telling you riaht now? 1 now? , . right now? ttis.te;l “u .. the 7 is right now? £5.51. g .. the 7 right now? it is telling us that the market is getting _ is caettin right now? gigs; “u .. the 7 is caettin more right now? distal“ the - is getting more difficult and right now? it is telling us that the market is getting more _ right now? it is telling us that the market is getting more difficult i right now? it is telling us that the i market is getting more difficult and it was— was telling us that in and market is getting more difficult and it was telling us that in august and down 3496 in . first ten _ it was telling us that in august and september and it was telling us that in august and septemberand we share it was telling us that in august and september and it was telling us that in august and septemberand we share it was telling us that in august and september and we share that september and we share that september and we sh- .-. information and this is the office and september andwe shatethat _m- september and we shatethat _ and this is - september and we share that and this is the office september and we share that budget and this is the office september and we share that budget responsibility; 0ffice september and we share that budget responsibility we 1fice for budget responsibility we are september and we share that budget responsibility we are for bud-et res-opsibilit we are hearing — for budget responsibility we are hearing from now and i am for bud et res opsibilit we are hearing from now and i am disappointed that it is until disappointed that it is not until 7 now that — disappointed that it is not until that they have 7 that they have said that they have said thin-s are now that they have said things are now that they have i think the data going _ now that they have said things are going to _ now that they have said things are going to get worse. i think the data goingtor .- - h. n--.. have going to netwocseflbinkjbejata ifi going to get worse. i think the data we have _ going to get worse. i think the data we have been seeing has been a going to get worse. i think the data have been seeing has been a warning — we have been seeing has been a warninu. ~ 11 1 warning. what is it saying? jobs are down 3496 in — we have been seeing has been a warning—jami we have been seeing has been a - warning—jobs are warning. what is it saying? jobs are down 3496 in —
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warning. what is it saying? jobs are down 3496 in . first _ warning. what is it saying? jobs are down 3496 in the _ warning. what is it saying? jobs are down 3496 in the first _ warning. what is it saying? jobs are warning. what is it saying? jobs are down 3496 in the first ten _ warning. what is it saying? jobs are down 3496 in the first ten days - warning. what is it saying? jobs are down 3496 in the first ten days of. down 34% in the first ten days of figures — down 34% in the first ten days of figures. job down 3496 in the first ten days of fiaures, 1, , 1,1. 1 , down 3496 in the first ten days of fiaures, 1,1 1 , 1 1, down 3496 in the first ten days of fiau11res. 1 , 1 1, 1, , figures. job vacancies. what does that tell you? _ figures. job vacancies. what does that tell you? i _ figures. job vacancies. what does that tell you? i have _ figures. job vacancies. what does that tell you? i have not - figures. job vacancies. what does that tell you? i have not seen - figures. job vacancies. what does| that tell you? i have not seen that since 2008 _ that tell you? i have not seen that since 2008 and _
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that tell you? i have not seen that since 2008 and - is _ that tell you? i have not seen that since 2008 and - is - for - that tell you? i have not seen thatj since 2008 and - is - for you labour tell is number “fit; = - labour tell is number one i when labour tell is number one position is growth? hate when labour tell is number one position is growth?— when labour tell is number one position is growth? when labour tell is number one posii and s growth? when labour tell is number one posii and say owth? when labour tell is number one posii and say owi have not seen step when labour tell is number one posii and say owi have not seen the j forecast and it not happen 0br forecast and it will not happen another month. i know laser focused on growth it are laserfocused on. growth and it... 1. 1. .. ... are laserfocused on. growth and it... 1. 1. .. ... a really are laserfocused on. growth and it... .. 1. .. ... a really good are laserfocused on. growth and it... 1. 1. .. ... a really good sign are laserfocuseo on. growth and it... 1. 1. .. ... a really good sign that said we re were the 7 were the second—best in the 77 to invest. 0n growth we are world to invest. 0n growth we are doing two things to up. is doing two things to drive it up ls so that the children of geese. my in my constituency can more buy and housing so that easily buy and get housing so that helps to bring and if you want to carry on watching newsnight, in the us and around the world from the team here in washington.
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this is bbc world news america. immediately and predicted a ceasfire in the "not so distant future." to save the ceasefire deal in gaza. lied to three courts, to protect one of its agents — where we'll bring you a full hour of live news and analysis immediately and predicted a ceasfire in the "not so distant future."
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he was speaking to reporters in the oval office
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