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thgt mgngger wgsgne cf the people 22—2 of thi; ilegge; subgct of this about investigation about the expenses. the second point i is si-nificant is is significant is she think is significant is she said that these concerns were withherwhenshe never raised with her when she was at bank of wasat halifax bank. of concerns though 7 certainly certainly were e=z her. we 5 her. we have raised by her. we have seen memo from dgguéments'including'a memarfram " reeves we re were told about tighter others were told about tighter why all of cost controls. why does all of matter? really this matter? well, really because at the centre of her voters has been his pitch to voters has been his that she is a safe claim that she is a safe and responsible custodian of the public finances. she today public finances. she said today she should bejudged on her actions in future but, —: i: —— -: w is? fghéiééfiii matthew, for now she is still facing questions her joe there 25:27 _ ha nks see—j; 25:27 _hanks very much. westminster thaeksrvery mesh. return to westminster thanksrvery mesh. return to munich and i'm let's return to munich and i'm just reading wire
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agencies allreeorting that are lenski that meeting with the started that meeting with the us vice presidentjd vance. that under in it that is under way'in monish. it been delayed of course had been delayed and of course earlier —— presidents are lenskl earlier —— presidents are lenski. that meeting in munich has now started, so we will bring you details as bring you more details as that emerges. earlier, we were 7 ukraine's president at watching ukraine's president at town hall alongside us that teen halt alfifirstthf as "”" ” ’” senator that teen halt alfifirstthf i155 "”" ” ’” senator lindsey in 7 in talks in talks to the war in ukraine. here is end the war in ukraine. here is what the ukrainian president to when was donald trump obestioned abobt donald {rente- �*s’laéfrn'f i a gender r—f: with had a good conversation with president and he had a had a good conversation with presid call and he had a had a good conversation with presid call with nd he had a had a good conversation with presid call with putin had a had a good conversation with presid call with putin and a had a good conversation with presid call with putin and he phonereatlwith pstin and he to me that i think, putin,
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said to me that i think, putin, he wants to stop the war. i to him he is a liar said to him that he is a tiar you count on it. i hope 5 will pressure him that you will press-are him i that you will pressure him i don't him. we he not just ceasefire and that's all that's why said to the president, yes, but i think phone calls phone calls. phone calls are phone calls. let's forget about it. i think phone calls are phone calls. let's is rget about it. i think phone calls are phone calls. let's is very about it. i think phone calls are phone calls. let's is very about it. i thek to make an meeting, not to make any about ukraine without decisions about ukraine without this is the principal ukraine. this is the principal position, we will never accept it. and when i i will it. and when i said i will never accept it, i'm not about i'm talking about me. i'm speaking about all our people, all our nation. people will not stop, we will give him pause. without real security guarantees we give him pause. i don't will give him pause. i don't want to be the in who helped putin to history who helped putin to occupy my country. i don't want "afiéithéi’qum andthat is 7 1
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andthat (st ttwill t t ttatnthhtat itsttt tt ttwiltltnevert tt it and that is why i will never do it, i will �*do. and it and that is why i will never do it, iwill �*do. and it t:-= very important for me to is very important for me to putin. for the pressure putin. for all the sanctions. i think president trump is ready do it, he has trump is ready to do it, he has all power do it. is all the power to do it. that is why i want to come to washington any this zzz: 7 ioti and toime to century! and to cents to" n"""”"*"* and i century! and teceme to" and i think we need to make a much we need to make a common of civilised people and to plan of civilised people and to share all this angst with -iii! -nnm the hel- of friends. and with the help of our �*55�*? tt t europe, it is necessary to lose its very necessaryn'ot to lose its am so proud that unity, lam so proud that we — part of unity, lam so proud that we . part of such a strong t tathtttt t t taantitttt t andithink t tathtttittthtintkttt t i}. europe andj, think. this is it is important lose this uni . before not to lose this unity. before this war, maybe not much gee—i—ieigz theway, t t the way, which this �* made positively. that
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war made positively. that unity the united states and between the united states and europe. is this and putin was scared. i drew think drew the last 20, 25 years. i don't remember yea rs years is many years he is president. is the first time when the this is the first time when the unity could pressure and he unity could pressurerhimrand he occupy us because of couldn't occupy us because of this unity because of our this unity'because of our and soldiers of course people and soldiers of course but because of this. not to lose it and now to make a deal without us without europe, it without us without europe. it not a good idea. i hope trump dotesn't have idea. i count on it very this idea..! count on it very i think i answered on the much. i think i answered on the ten questions! sorry. i ten host questions! 5orr�*g�*r" .........7..... h m ten host questioneléorryz ' c.. " .. ~ 100 to the have 100 questions but to the senators... have 100 questions but to the senators- -- — senators... to the senators, please- — senators... to the senators, please- are _ senators... to the senators, please. are you _ senators... to the senators, please. are you comfortablej dlease. please. a e@ e please. a in which the with a world in which the _ seeks- with a world in which the seeks do deals authoritarian leaders like
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with authoritarian leaders like putin— with authoritarian leaders like putin or— with authoritarian leaders like putin or even china without _ with _ putin or even china without with long—standing consulting with long—standing allies— consulting with long—standing allies like germany and france? i. very— allies like germany and france? i. very 0k _ allies like germany and france? i very ok with trump talking allies like germany and france? i very okv i'm'rump talking allies like germany and france? i very okv i'm notip talking allies like germany and france? i very okvi'm notipiwithg to putin. what i�*m not gk with the deterrence. is the world losing deterrence. they georgia in 2014. they're tat . tatit t t at it again. t t at it again. so t back at it again. so rather than worrying about who tttcallitntg,t t t t tttcallitntg,tthtyttt t t t calling,tthty we a bit hoof bit hovr did happen? i've been coming this "hating” t t tt this thing for tt this thing for years. tt to this thing for 25 years. john mccain every conference, putin sucks. he is alive. 0h, putin sucks. he is alive. oh, no, you have got wrong. no, you have got it wrong. putin was here. the people about the call. worried about the phone call, where you when we needed where were you when we needed stop putin? why didn't he to stop putin? why didn't he invade was invade when truss was president? because he's afraid that's why he didn't trump, that's why he didn't why didn't he invade —— invade. why didnft he invade —— he invade in t could get away with who did again? t could tt t could get away with
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because he could get away with it. you are the have been for my life. not one htas thlgaiteatttttt you taken ukraine. you have taken our and you have kick their weapons and you have kick their as and i'm very to have as and i'm very proud to have you as our ally. how does this you as our ally. how doesthis �*end? and so it doesn't war end? and so it doesn't happen again. it matter happen'againgtt doesn�*t matter me who calls when he to me who trump calls when he calls. it matters to how it calls. it matters to me how it ends. afghanistan ended poorly. do you all with do you all agree with that? well, this will not end poorly. do you all agree with that? well, this trump t end poorly. do you all agree with that? well, this trump is nd poorly. do you all agree with that? well, this trump is not )oorly. do you all agree with that? well, this trump is not going. do you all agree with that? well, this trump is not going to in ukraine t t in ukraine what t t in ukraine whatwe t t in ukraine what we did tt in ukraine what we did intt he . tt he is ttthtettitstgointgtt t he is going to afghanistan. he is going to try to find a way to make sure this to find away tormakersure this �*ends to find away tormakersure this �* ends rather war ends sooner rather than later and when i talk to people at home about white matters, m him. sto- and eemee him. sto- outems'ee him. sto- ou are set stops him. well, you are stopping him. he will keep stopping him. but he will keep going unless we get the t t right. tt t t right. so is ithinktt i think its ti thinktt tt ti hart tt t ti mp; 5?ng i thinkttis going to a way awayto t t a way to end t t a way to end war away to end warina find'a way to end'this war in a that putin be a fashion that putin would be a full to do it again. very quickly, �*do you deter
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quickly, how do you deter you are in guide to putin? you are in this guide to the yeah, you give him a the teeth. yeah you give him a —— ..c — .- . ~ — f-i6s. the teeth. yeah you give him a —— ..c — .- . ~ — f—16s. notafew the teeth. yeah you give him a —— ..c — .- . ~ — f—16s. not a few f—16s give 57—7 - . ' tttgivtetirihtttttttt t twill twiltlftigthttt t twill ftigthtttittemindttttt twill fight. remind me not they will fight. remind me not to invade 0k? itjust to invade ukraine 0k? itjy§t out well. so quyi guy, let's t t guy, let's do the gmytghizsyguy. let's do the we will minerals agreements we will have american business putin doesn't interests. putin doesn't understand what's going on. if we sign this minerals 7 7 it... e ate soeemegi t is t tt 3§;é;1g;;;§§1;§555;5;1 t is screwed because trump defend the deal. so the as“! serene tn= ass! 5fiffi= thing that seill hefehh the heel 5efhe thing that is to here is t hterttettstt htet t here is he is t t htertettst htetis goihg to happen here is he is going to a deal with i hope, and he will defend america's so war is going interest. so this war is going to come an end, i �* rather and it sooner rather than later and it is going to to an end a where t where it won't happen i have every tthe new” ttt t t ttthetonrtlthhat t t t ttthetonrtlthhat 50m t tthe world that donald trump lrjihe world that donald trump end lblhe world that donald trump end this �* in a way that will end this war in a way that they be no third invasion ukraine. that was lindsay of ukraine. that was lindsay and president zelensky graham ah5 ere5i5ehf eelehéte at $5555 5h5 ef55'55hf 55555? at munich speaking at the munich only an hour or
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a reminder that now presidents zelenskyy'has how that meeting with us started that meeting with us vice let's back vice president. let's head back to munich chief to munich and'our'ehiefr " ' 'e' correspondent. 0ver political correspondent. qver . you. yes, you join us here munich t t munich as t munich as the tday is coming an end for the t an end for the firtst t an end for the firtst day t an end for the firtst day of t to an end for the first day of annual munich tttas t t as ca n conference. as you can hear, that is very that ukraine is very much the here. the dominating the agenda here. the among 5571555“ " "' ' and viewamooeruropean leadezsaod u kra i ne viewamoogeeuropean leadezsaod ukraine it .viewamoogueuropeanleadezsaod ukraine it is that at last there is discussion long last there is discussion about war in about ending the war in ukraine. the bad news for zelensky, you have president lelensky, as you have hearing, and the president lelensky, as you have it! is ing, and the european president lelensky, as you have it! is thatand the european leaders is that the diplomacy may not be heading in the t towards t towards a t towards atjust peace. direction towards a just peace. well, let's discuss some of issues here a man is tt is watching tttis watcthirtigtetverytthintgtt t tt who is watching everything closely. in fact, who is watching everything closely. infact, he closely. in fact. he is right . the heart of the decision closely. in fact. he is right . the heart sexy decision closely. in fact. he is right . the heart sexy decisio of making. the sexy general of nato. your munich nato. your first munich conference although 5eou'r�*ity oonterenoe although came 5eou'r�*ity eonterenoe although came here 5ooo'r�*ity oontoronoo although came here many times as the
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you came here many times as the dutch leader. i don't need to you came here many times as the dut you ader. i don't need to you came here many times as the dut you that. i don't need to you came here many times as the dut you that there i�*t need to you came here many times as the dut you that there is need to you came here many times as the dut you that there is a eed to you came here many times as the dut you that there is a deep» tell you that there is a deep worry permeating the entire this year. the very gathering this year. the very of this conference a rules about a rules —based order seems to be international order seems to be risk. do you share this worry? know, i don't, i don't. we worry? know, i don't, i don't. - we really _ worry? know, i don't, i don't. - we really need - worry? know, i don't, i don't. - we really need to - worry? know, i don't, i don't. - we really need to do - worry? know, i don't, i don't. - we really need to do is i = oh the work at tt t t5; {rill/jive hand concentrate on the work at hand and the work at hand is to ensure that we bring ukraine to a situation of peace. that a situation of 5»ng .--. . . .. -----. . to be a a situation of peace—unaut— .--. . . .. -----. . to be a lasting peace, has to be a lasting peace, never to be again by never to be challenged again by putin. we have to sure putin. we have to make sure that we get the training all the milita m to 7 to make 7777 "7 to make sure to make sfurie that? h 7 to make sque that tfiey prevail in the meantime. j can prevail in the meantime. and that is the order of the day. and all the other stuff i have time for. we really don't have time for. we really have to work on e -e w ’ ”whichrh’as” " which has to 77 w ’ ”whichhasitorbe 77 7 77whi7ch7has7to7b7e a77 7 777 which has to be a just piece, which has to be a just and lasting peace. but piece, which has to be a “ust and lasting peacefi and i have been here know. you and i have been here seven years, the message 77 77 77777alwa7ys7 7 always was you from munich always was you cannot change international ' is isa here that president
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77 5mm? and his discussions putin. his prison putin, his concessions is rewarding the russian leader for his aggression. you don't that? ., , , , sit that? no, i see present trump tries— sit that? no, i see present trump tries to _ sit that? no, i see present trump tries to bring - sit that? no, i see present trump tries to bring this i sit that? no, i see present trump tries to bring this to sit that? no, i see present. trump tries to bring this to an sit that? no, i see present. trum in ries to bring this to an sit that? no, i see present. trum in a as to bring this to an sit that? no, i see present. trum in a as t( that g this to an sit that? no, i see present. trum in a as t( that both 1 to an sit that? no, i see present. trum in a as t( that both the an end. in a way that both the glimmer— end. in a way that both the glimmer - prison . end. in a way that both the - glimmer- prison putin, glimmer benefits prison putin, in if of glimmer benefits prison putin, in i: of the glimmer benefits prison putin, in 7:7: of the ukrainian in the view of the ukrainian president. in the view of the ukrainian president-— in the view of the ukrainian president. 7777777ukr7a7ine ukraine is 77777 ukraine is part of that ukraine is part of discussions and they are. mm we of the discussions. we are actively from all the 7 aid77ke7ep it flowing military aid keep it flowing into ukraine but also all european countries cooperate �* a european countries cooperate �*a peace european countries cooperate so �*a peace european countries cooperate so i �*a peace european countries cooperate so i am �*a peace european countries cooperate so i am �*a per not deetsrflamebm�*}2'v fint about deetsrflamebm�*je�*v fint about we deetsrrlamebm�*je�*v reezet about we really to work we =zzz =::-7 �*american �* american team. american �* american team is �*american team is here stops is also full stops there is also complained that they do not your777 :’ "z your in engage e-jithryeurebusiness. in the engage l�*jith7�*y'glj1'7bfl5if�*eé5—5, in the 777 time 77 7 7777777777777 engage l�*jith7�*y'glj1'7bl7j5if�*eé5—5, in the 7777 time i 7 77777777 7777777 engage l�*jith7�*y'glj1'7bl7j5if�*eé5—5, in the 7777 time i checked 7777777 munich the last time i checked have the whole american p°l|7cy77 77i’ 7:77; policy team in fereign. peliey team here in; 7 f 777 77 77 7 7
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