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certainly under challengeein, many challenge but certainly under challangain, many challenge but leave hunry out aiat 77 hunry out aiat the 77 7 the-challene 7 7 the-challene is 7 7 the-challene is no 7 the challen-e is noomin- moment. the challenge is not coming from governments. these criticisms mm - re rich, from a are pretty rich, coming from a president— are pretty rich, coming from a president who is quite uniquely although i authoritarian. although i accept that democracy and freedom of speech are under_ that democracy and freedom of speech are under challenge in our country, they. under_ are under challenge in our country, they under challenge much more they are under challenge much more so in the _ they are under challenge much more so in the boss is the man so in the us and his boss is the man who is_ so in the us and his boss is the man who is responsible. so in the us and his boss is the man who is - responsible.— so in the us and his boss is the man who is - responsible. eff-1.77 t w our challenges coming from? there is a significant — our challenges coming from? there is a significant come _ our challenges coming from? there is a significant come a _ our challenges coming from? there is a significant come a large _ our challenges coming from? there is a significant come a large minority - a significant come a large minority of people. — a significant come a large minority of people, especially among the young, — of people, especially among the young, who don't accept the basic yaung, whiz; dan't assapt tha aa'. of - of democracy _ yaung, who dan't assagt the basis of democracy who free 2 free speech. the - free speech. the problem, - - free speech. the problem, the - fre forieech. the problem, the - fre for free i. the problem, the - fre for free speech roblem, the - fre for free speech is alem, the - fre for free speech is not1, the from it's comin- coming from governments, it's coming from the _ coming from governments, it's coming from the pressure of opinion from - fellow— from the pressure of opinion from fellow citizens and that's a difficult ourfellow citizens and that's a difficult thing to deal much more difficult thing to deal with than— much more difficult thing to deal with than the pressure coming from government. with than the pressure coming from government-— government. basically what we call cancel culture? _

government. basically what we call cancel culture? well, _ government. basically what we call cancel culture? well, - part i government. basically what we call cancel culture? well, - part of| cancel culture? well, that's part of it but a cancel culture? well, that's part of it but. a problem _ cancel culture? well, that's part of it but i a problem that _ cancel culture? well, that's part of it but i a problem that goes i cancel culture? well, that's part of} it but i a problem that goes back it but it's: a prabtsrn that gasa ti... the it hat it'a a prahtarn that gaaa hart? iw it hat it'a a prahtarn that gaaa hart? i the origins of it hat it'a a prahtarn that gaaa hath the origins of mass democracy, to the origins of mass democracy, that conformity is the instinct of many— that conformity is the instinct of many. our— that conformity is the instinct of many our fellow citizens. many of our fellow citizens. listening _ many of our fellow citizens. listening to you, i you said listening to you, i know you said that you and jd vance agree that you and jd vance don't agree but are naming the problem but you are naming the same problem but you are naming the same problem but different for it? yes, but different culprits for it? yes, absolutely. _ but different culprits for it? yes, absolutely, i is _ but different culprits for it? yes, absolutely, i is what - but different culprits for it? yes, absolutely, i is what is i i'm seekin- to happening but i'm seeking to point out that— happening but i'm seeking to point out that the country which out that actually, the country which has gone _ out that actually, the country which has gone furthest in destroying these _ has gone furthest in destroying these values is the united has gone furthest in destroying — thes in/alues is the united h has gone furthest in destroying — thes in particularie united h has gone furthest in destroying — thes in particular the nited h has gone furthest in destroying thes in particular the administration and in particular the administration of which _ and in particular the administration of which vance is a part. and =-—e talkediut talked about immi - ration mehreen, he talked about immigration quite a lot. we were baby gaita a tat. lala waraitaalay , ~ ,, in brussels together 57 end”? ,, ,,,,,, "ya—f ~ end of the crfsis e'fi'd’étfié icrfsiisbut” fright” ' the . . 1’ight 1the1h1ugew 11 fight; 1 the huge numbers of he's right about the huge numbers of coming to in the last people coming to europe in the last decade �*so. the numbers are very decade or so. the numbers are very big. decade or so. the numbers are very bi. ~ , decade or so. the numbers are very bii. . , ., decade or so. the numbers are very bi. ~ , . , ., , big. well, why are these people comini in big. well, why are these people coming in and — big. well, why are these people coming in and i are - big. well, why are these people coming in and i are they i coming in and how are they entering

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will include so—called security guarantees for ukraine. anders fogh rasmussen. he spoke about the internal threat to europe. of the trump administration? well, i think we're seeing a gradual disengagement from europe. so, what i have learned here in munich is that we have to speed up in europe when it comes to increased investments

and that includes providing security guarantees for ukraine. is that that is where neville chamberlain allowed hitler to get yes, indeed. and the lesson from munich is, appeasement with dictators does not lead to peace. on the contrary, it leads to war and conflict. and if you give concessions to dictators, they only get appetite

and that's my concern when it comes to ukraine. we are listening to voices advocating that we should give away territory to russia. he gets any success in ukraine, before you even start negotiations, then you will start so i would say to president trump, don't let ukraine

don't let putin defeat you. seek peace, but seek a fair and lasting peace. do you think the us should then roll back on their position from earlier the organisation you used to be the secretary general of? yes, indeed.

and deploy troops on ukrainian soil. just put some flesh on the bones, then. about being deployed to ukraine as part of a, as you call it, you will have france, germany, poland, the nordics, the baltics. presumably, that commitment of those 100,000 troops at all times would have to be open—ended?

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presence in greenland. you're welcome. we put the idea of tens of thousands of european boots on the ground so we know clearly how we will as well defend our nato troops.

yes, if there will be a decision of nato countries sending the troops and overall nato decision, then yes. peacekeeping force? invades another country by force, killing people. i only see as a possible security reason and deterrence

so definitely i will not be happy. for our all security, then that could be a decision which could be justified. prime minister, thank you. the prime minister of latvia speaking to the prime minister of latvia us short while ago. speaking to us a short while ago. she did not rule out the jonathan, she did not rule out the idea of a big peacekeeping force in 1�*the 1 1�*the war 1 1�*the waris 1 �*the war is over. is ukraine after the war is over. is that what to happen? i thinkitcan 1 th|nk|tcanberu1l1e11d11 11thi1r1ik1it1c11an1b1e11ru1l1ed11ou1t1. 11thi1r1ik1it1c1an1b1e1ru1l1e11d11ou1t1. it ttok it can be ruled out. it ttok it toi be ruled out. it ttok it to be! ruled out. it 11 tt1o1k1it1to be1historicall1y it seems to me to be his . ' . z well-informed. efla�* sea a a and well-informed. e"a�* sass a; _ and absolutely i moreover should be concern about the prime 1— because 1 because the three m- imm- “m in the sense that unique in the sense that they were an unique in the sense that they were - an integral— unique in the sense that they were an integral part of the soviet once an intedinart of the soviet and like for example once an integral part of the soviet _ - and like for example poland _ a memberof 111 11 1 _aember of the 111 11 1 1a1member of the warsaw -e but not part of the

union. —— unlike poland. these are the prime _ union. —— unlike poland. these are the prime of an union. —— unlike poland. these are the prime ofan ambition and the prime targets of an ambition andr _m_ the prime targets of an ambition andr _ autocrat like predatory autocrat like putin. that would justify _ predatory autocrat like putin. twat would justify having people would justify having so many people as a trip wire in ukraine? but also have to afafizeza a t::: 11111_e1111 122111111 recognise the truth of the point - europe _ recognise the truth of the point europe coming up to about europe coming up to the plate in terms _ about europe coming up to the plate in terms of— about europe coming up to the plate in terms of its own defence. we have for a ton. time under azaz.m. 7am? ”as 777,7 111-1 1111111 11111 1111 111t1_1 11111 1 111 1111e_1 1111 security of the united states and have helped ourselves peace 1 peace dividend to a peace dividend which turned out to a peace dividend which turned out to be _ to a peace dividend which turned out to be very— to a peace dividend which turned out to be very short lived after the collapse — to be very short lived after the collapse of the in collapse of the berlin wall. in other collapse of the berlin wall. i�*i other words could collapse of the berlin wall. in other words could money to other words we could save money to on schools and spend on schools and hospitals instead? ., instead? exactly. the united kingdom whose armed — instead? exactly. the united kingdom whose armed forces _ instead? exactly. the united kingdom whose armed forces are _ whose armed forces are closely integrated with those of the united the united states is states, the united states is now unlikely— states, the united states is now unlikely be in very unlikely to be in future a very unreliable ally and we therefore unreliable allyeanatswesther to unreliable allyeandswestherefore to disentangle and

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you don't get a slap on the wrist. your deficit will no longer take �* defence account of defence spending so ultimately you have free reign. the gjtimately you have free reign. the is that gjgmately you have free reign. the is that might be good news reality is that might be good news for some countries but some will be fiscally constrained. and taxing citizens in both of those are pernicious for big france and like france and germany. jonathan, ou have like france and germany. jonathan, you - have to — like france and germany. jonathan, you - have to be _ like france and germany. jonathan, you i have to be an _ like france and germany. jonathan, you i have to be an expert i like france and germany. jonathan, you i have to be an expert on i you don't have to be an expert on the eu but hearing them talk about some spreadsheets in 1and hearing anders fogh brussels and hearing anders fogh rasmussen so you have to send 100,000 troops to ukraine, there is mismatch there. i 1ismatch there. ., �* 1ismatch there. , . is necessarily. what we're there is necessarily. what we're actually— there is necessarily. what we're actually talking about is the rules governing size of deficits. e75 111 ifj_7_— e under the arrangements for—the - m— under the arrangements for—the - currency. it _ under the arrangements for the currency. it seems to me at risk of somewhat 1 inflation, that of inflation, that is maybe something you have to do. the alternative is going be to cut social security spendingfonexample. .

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