it's like i'm sitting in a merch store at the moment, so's mine! they just arrived. .. to our loyal audience, they just arrived. that's why there's nothing in them. wild week, hasn't it? president trump and the administration just going full force. it feels like the focus this week, with so much on domestic policy the first couple of weeks, that it's really been foreign policy this week. trump administration, there was a big focus on the ceasefire in gaza,

moving that forward. and we've all been watching, the new secretary of defence, in germany, heading to the munich security conference — speaking to european partners there, first defence secretaries, world leaders in europe as well, about us support for ukraine. and, you know, the big bombshell news — bernie, is president trump talking to vladimir putin and then later to volodymyr zelensky, the president of ukraine, it's been interesting. in terms of speaking about ukraine. i don't really recall,

in the last few weeks, to this new reality. that's not something... a warm relationship. i'd never heard him explicitly say he sees saudi arabia as being kind but for him to say, you know, he thinks probably the first meeting he'll have with putin as president again will be in saudi arabia, is, i think, really telling in terms of his foreign policy alliances and priorities.

push that president trump and his administration have had on this issue. steve witkoff is out there. you've got the ukrainian special envoy — keith kellogg is out there. in ukraine this week as well. you know, flood the zone — we keep using and there was that shock yesterday

when pete hegseth made rolling back a little bit on that position, it's kind of like we're seeing these negotiations happen over the airwaves a little bit. yeah, and that very much is in line with what we've seen from president trump in the past, haven't we? has been speaking about ukraine and ukraine's president zelensky.

i think they have to make peace. and he said, "well, you know, they have to make peace." on our airwaves, in our news programmes, to a former economy minister, tymofiy mylovanov, who was saying, listen, you hearfrom russia, so what we need to do in ukraine and from what we understand, and i know this was a topic at the white house or in some of the coverage, we know that ukraine, in the fall of last year, before president trump

for economic development. and support for ukraine. from president trump and from the press secretary, you know, you just mentioned the term "deal". you know, she said he's a deal—maker several times, which, you know, also... but if he can frame aid to ukraine as a transaction in which the us is also benefiting, that plays really well for him domestically,

and it leaves him a little more room now we'll be seeing more and more of that sort without any return on investment. and that's why it was really interesting that his you know, why is your treasury secretary there? transactional, commercial deal. for the military aid that the us was giving to ukraine. about the order of the phone calls,

president putin first with president putin, also really interesting. but, you know, the language, as you were saying there, the optics of the whole thing, there's a reframing, almost. commentators have been saying to me that ukraine is the bad guy in this, that it was somehow their fault that they were invaded and that there's a price for them to pay. so that's causing a lot of consternation in ukraine but over the head of the european union as well,

i've been watching some of the reaction over in brussels also humanitarian assistance, so there is a significant investment but some of the commentary i've seen and some of the commentators to your point, bernie, you know, this is something that was telegraphed by president trump on the campaign trail.

again, this, you know, long running, let's say, and obviously, to do that in a short amount of time is going to be a massive challenge. but those commentators again made the point, "look, this is not coming out of nowhere. we've had time and now we really need to step up." what an awkward spot he's put zelensky in. so yesterday when we were in the oval office, you know, i said, "mr president..." to its pre—2014 borders? well, i think pete said today that that's unlikely, right? l they took a lot of land - and they fought for that land,

they lost a lot of soldiers. but i've read a lot on it, | and a lot of people think some of it will come back. "well, i don't think it's very realistic, you know, zelensky has been very clear. into ukraine's constitution now that, you know, their land in their eyes is not for any... that is occupied by russia at the moment. there's any good response to that at the moment.

did she say anything about, you know, this summit, on this, what her role might be? she didn't. and trump kind ofjust held court with the reporters there. or ukraine in particular, you know, her position as dni, views in the past. so i think kind of the optics of that, if i was a ukrainian

was the visit of the king ofjordan, king abdullah. awkward and difficult moment for the jordanians. i think it was. a middle eastern monarch finds himself in very often in having to answer those questions. we can work with the president and with the united states. - so i think let's wait - until the egyptians can come we saw prime minister netanyahu, when donald trump outlined this policy, kind of saying, "oh, well, we have to see more and listen to it."

coming to visit president trump, that he's going to do we'll discuss that and we'll move it on," without actually getting drawn king abdullah and all the arab leaders also have a very kind of difficult domestic situation when it comes to the gaza situation as well. many, many millions of palestinians live there already. conflict their entire lives. from the king's perspective, as long as he doesn't say anything

correspondent as well. to both of your points — is going to be one that and that's where you could see some of that friction while all of these international conversations have been the big news today — and as i said, it's thursday, i mean, it shows in many ways, doesn't it, that the republican

so many people really raising concerns and very, and then at the end of the day, everyone rode in and voted mitch mcconnell, who didn't. he also didn't vote for tulsi gabbard, who we were speaking aboutjust a moment ago. because also on our shows this week, we were talking about the second spike of flu here in the us. so we all know from living here, there's been so many nasty doses health officials because they've had their funding cut came into office.

there's cuts to research grants. in the slightly longer term, responds to those concerns. you know, because that's.... that's something that's very much in the public eye. the administration responds. battles about the health

issues in particular. you know, among the many other legal battles, there'll be legal but i do think that's going to be something that that i think most americans will will notice in one form or another. health really hasn't been at the forefront of what we've seen from president trump in this first few weeks. policy and then also this focus on foreign policy. and, you know, vaccines — we know that one of the big

and conspiracies that he's spread over vaccine use. and, you know, there were a few holdouts initially, weren't there, people who were concerned about the prospect of rfkjr so instrumental. and there are no concerns about that. but it is in particular vaccines. and i saw, you know, bill cassidy, who's a republican senator, had his concerns addressed. but i thought it was interesting — he wrote that... if mr kennedy has confirmed, i will use my authority, - to rebuff any attempt to remove | the public's access to life—saving vaccines without ironclad, -

causational scientific evidence that and before congress. and anecdote. from rfkjr on what he's going to do in this role, but i will continue to these vaccines is protected." exactly. there's executive powers, and then it's, "how long does it take congress to kind of get up and running?" but you're right. others along with them.

that that might be part of the kind of guidance that would about vaccines and still holds some controversial views about vaccines, but the fact that he chose to vaccinate his own children, news reports have claimed that i am anti—vaccine or anti—industry. - lam neither.

we've seen tens of millions of birds have to be slaughtered, which is having a knock—on effect in all of our pockets, which is "eggflation", as it's called. there's a shortage of eggs. with the general inflation figures. and, "oh, look how expensive eggs are, and that's former you know, bird flu and eggs, is going to be kind of one of the biggest challenges he's faced so far — you know, "the price of eggs has gone up and it's

biden's fault because x, y or z." he needs something to point to, you know, his... they really need some good news because so far, that's not so, i mean, ithink that's going to be kind of the big because the recent inflation numbers weren't good for him. and now he's... there's been no movement

in that regard. stick — because until now, as we've talked about on this pod in the past, they've struggled to find what their message is. i think we've run out of time. but it's been lovely to catch up with both of you again. and you can catch up with all of the episodes and you can also find us on youtube. hello. the weekend's looking cold, that's for sure. to wait a few more days. of us this weekend.

and it's on this edge here where these two air masses meet. to the south of that, it's rain. particularly around the southern uplands. but it's this area here that could be quite icy. so if you're travelling first thing in the morning on saturday, worst case, there could be

some black ice patches, across some central, maybe southern areas too, a lot of cloud. around western and northern scotland too. going to feel very cold, particularly where the breeze and sunday, it's, ithink, more or less the same — look at these values — 4 degrees for most of us. now, how about next week? now, how about next week? well, low pressure is winding itself up in the atlantic. that does mean spells of cloud that does mean spells of cloud and rain will be coming our way. but the wind pattern and rain will be coming our way. will be shifting. it'll be coming in more from the south/south—west. it will push away the cold air it will push away the cold air to more eastern parts of europe, to more eastern parts of europe, so look at those temperatures. so look at those temperatures. there'll be some sunshine too, rain, there'll be some sunshine too, rain, but those temperatures could be bye— bye.

but those temperatures could be

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