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hello, i'm catherine byaruhanga. european leaders will meet in paris today for a crisis summit on ukraine. it's in response to president trump's plans to negotiate an end to the war directly with russia. news that europe and ukraine would be excluded from talks this week in saudi arabia has been met with anger and disbelief. joe inwood reports. the question is increasingly being asked — if there is to be peace in ukraine, what price must be paid?
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the common position has always been this, as expressed by oleksandr in kyiv. "i would like us to get back all our territories," he says. "but is it possible? i can't say at this stage. i have faith and hope in it. i think everyone wants this to happen." the last few days at the munich security conference have shattered that belief. first, the new us defence secretary said ukraine would have to give up territory and its ambitions to join nato. the reality of ukraine membership in nato as a part of a negotiated settlement — unlikely. then it was announced that president trump had a 90—minute phone conversation with president putin before speaking to his ukrainian ally. i had good conversation with the president trump. we had some phone calls and he had phone calls with putin. and he said to me, i think that he, putin, that he wants to stop the war. i said to him that he is a liar.
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ii , , foreign j ,, foreign minister says ii ,, foreign minister says his j ,, foreign minister says his country ii ,, foreign minister says his country has j ,, foreign minister says his country has not ruled peacekeepers to gut. sending peacekeergerstfl followed similar statement from sir a similar statement from sir keir starmer. "i do not say that lightly. and women in harm's way."
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europe is at the table, it has a big stake. it is the major contributor of arms and humanitarian not be sidelined. this is an informal gathering, andrew, been caught off guard by the us's moves in recent days? i think they've been caught off guard, shocked and angered of the american comments. the last week and work out what is rhetoric,
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and what was said more privately to european leaders that they can hopefully take more seriously, and that, as they've sometimes put it, america is still who's really questioned european democracy and relationship between america and europe. we will be live from paris throughout day following throughout the day following talks by the european git an situation in we will in more ukraine, we will bring in more than that throughout the day on mews.
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the executive director thank you forjoining us. what is your assessment of what's happening on the happeningfinfthebattlefield. what we is because what we are hearing is reports of government forces retreating simply retreating and challenged by rebels. seen on the what we have seen on the battlefield the last weeks, you iéaegay’ say, the 7 say, the �* the say, army, �* the say, army, but �*the say, army, but "the _7 legit mititiethat n== them all the way supporting them all the way from mountains in south from the mountains in south 21, and now —— south kivu
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bukavu. we hearing they also avu. we hearing they also thinking hearing they also thinking �* putting | they also thinking �* putting in 1ey are also thinking of putting in into bukavu. an administration into bukavu. and these mineral parts 7 parts of j parts of the j parts of the drc, north fish eéfti elf thgfifif'flfitffl "" south kivu, places who have and'south kivu; places who'have that we ancl'scxalh kivu; places wha'have that we use in many of devices like mobile -hones, 110w now the us, the 7 now the us, the eu, un council un? councilall 7 the un security council all calling for a the calling for a ceasefire in the eastern drc, that worked far, 7 far, so what can be done? so far, so what can be done? so far- have — so far, so what can be done? sr far have calls for a far there have been calls for a ceasefire not only by the us europe but by the and europe but also by the east african community. is mm enouh -ressure enou i 11 l ressure oi�*i enouh -ressure on both
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having key meetings, crucially between us and russian about ending the war between us and russian ukraine out ending the war between us and russian ukraine for ending the war between us and russian ukraine for so ding the war between us and russian ukraine for so he g the war between us and russian ukraine for so he wille war between us and russian ukraine for so he will alsor in'lj'kraine fpr'so he will alsc: talking about the war in be talking about the war in and the future �*the {lessees the fahcrefa—the — r— coming back " andthefiz " " ' 7" and the situation 7 7 7 and the situation in 7 7 you and the situation in are from eastern congo, you are from goma, the major city of eastern congo that has been taken over by are hearing by m23, what are you hearing they are about the from people they are about the impact of the war? the from people they are about the impact of the war?— impact at the war? ' the war has been in of the war has been dramatic in the population's of goma. m23 seized goma, it was under siege. so life of those people in was very difficult.
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m5!» is carrying the the claim that is carrying the us secretary of marco us secretary of state marco rubio, he is arriving in of course, a key if” fof’ 7 70f course, a key if” 7 ofthe’ 70f course, a key of the next :ourse, a key if” 7 ofthe’ nextzour days key 7 7 meetings between those expected meetings between american as well as over ending russian delegation over ending the war in ukraine. the has the war in ukraine. the us has said this first phase of be w 7 "sagging” " flbslemtltuldehe ongoing . on the there has been anger of course, there has been anger and from ukraine and sac, ccccwch: case, ..... a. we whohavefi sl’eér} europe, who have not been invited this first phase of invited to this first pheseete — c. e— 7 we ,, 0f invited to this first pheseete — c. e— 7 we ,, of course, invited to this first pheseete e eee ee ewe ,, of course, marco d iscllss'lons. qt cod rse. ema rce visit to saudi discussions. qt coursewmarce visit to saudi arabia ma mm follows his trip to israel, where he met with the israeli minister prirne minister benjamineeee ee ,, ,, , were netanyaha'. there were on the future of discussions on the future of the second vof 7 of the peace today phase of the peace deal. today the israeli will be thé effie“ inf'fist g'll 555 n a ehe iefeel' ee'e'h? �*e'u ee n a meeting ehe iefeel' eee'hee �*e'u ee n
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a meeting on hglging a security meeting on phase. let's hear that second phase. let's hear from our east regional fren'! eur middle east egehs' sebastian the war in gaza. the issue with that is that in order to move on to a second are that israel should have a full withdrawal of its troops from gaza as part of that phase, and within that,
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of those relatives who have begun a march to the israeli here beyond anything else is to ensure that every last in the way of that. a resumption of the war in gaza, that might then lead right to its end.�* in reminder �*what watching'st thermment these from z —:;" ’ sv�* at any riyadh in saudi arabia. at any moment we expect the us secretary of state marco rubio to disembark from the
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we are watching and that we are watching and following. course, this is followingegfeceurse, this is first to the eie eifee eee ee eee eaieele ' 7 n 7 and he eie eieee eee ee eee eaieele ' 7 n 7 and he is expected to hold 7 meetings : smeetings �* the 7 7 : meetings �*the next 7 : meetings �*the next few key meetings over the next few days. we the days; this understand thsttiism" ”” ’” will with officials. there is setting �* negotiations over ending how negotiations over ending the war with ukraine will this of course comes the 7 the lot 7 the lot of 7 the lot of confusion �*from european as anger from european leaders as as ukrainian n i135 7 n rhasnot' n has not been to first of 7 ”first?" "shire ' this first phase of the that are discussions that we are expecting riyadh. expecting to happen inriyadh. president ukraine the president of ukraine zelensky has volodymyr zelensky has expressed anger over this move. is actually in the he is actually in the middle east at the moment, he is on a east at the moment he is—en a e ,, e .. trip to the he
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also to saudi but of course, what we arabia, but of course, what we understand is that ukrainian officials not be taking officials will not be taking in partein these discussions and the partein these discussiens and the united eeeweee el�*ee'e eee eee ue'eee also on the agenda is ongoing conflict in gaza. course have seen a of course we have seen a ceasefire deal over the last few weeks, the first phase of that deal due to come to a that deal is due to come to a close and we are expecting negotiations on second negotiations on a second phase that see the continuation thatlveutdesee the centinuatien the hostages we have over the last �*weeks, and �* weeks, and that �*weeks, and that also led to few weeks. and that also led to of the release of palestinian prisoners. so the focus for the us secretary of state will be the e gaza and on the situation in gaza and well in bringing the well in bringing about the crucial phase. second crucial phase. today marks 500 days since more than 200 israeli hostages were taken
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200 israeli hostages wetetaken captivity in gaza. many into captivity in gaza. many been released but still are being held there and more are being held there and we have seen also protests by families 7 7 7 familiesof' 7 7 e families ofthose 7 7 e families of those still? 7 skaters-“hes at these esil�*t’e ' ” ” ’”” ” " in :ee:ee_ in tel held in gaza happening in tel aviv. continue to held in gaza happening in tel aviv. the continue to held in gaza happening in tel aviv. the continin to held in gaza happening in tel aviv. the continin riyadh, follow the situation in riyadh, across the middle east and in ggrope well, we europe as well, where we have the crucial meeting of leaders paris. you're watching bbc in paris. you're watching bbc news, stay with as we go through this week, you'll notice the difference we are starting off with temperatures below average for the time of year, but by the end of the week, expecting any issues with frost.
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