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term security concerns of long term security concerns of ukraine and it might pause the conflict rather than offering something which ukrainians who have seen their country so devastated in the past three years, something they can feel confident about their future with. ~ ~, confident about their future with. ~ . , confident about their future with. ~ ., , , ., confident about their future with. ., , , ., ., with. we have seen ursula von der leyen _ with. we have seen ursula von der leyen also _ with. we have seen ursula von der leyen also going _ with. we have seen ursula von der leyen also going into - with. we have seen ursula von der leyen also going into that| der leyen also going into that meeting. should the europeans have been caught on the hop like this? president trump has been speaking in fairly disparaging terms about european leaders in recent weeks but he has also made it
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has been wis a very espefixwgffj" 7" ”w "7 7 sowerful le dictatin: the week. stay there for a moment _ the week. stay there for a moment. we _ the week. stay there for a moment. we are - the week. stay there for a moment. we are going i the week. stay there for a moment. we are going to| viewers joining viewersjoining us of our output? ”7 7 of our outputttihiisi our dart sf say sutput, this is sac-rm , ,, — w coverage from dsrt sf say sstpst, this is say—w , w — w coverage from paris rolling coverage from paris as european leaders arrive for an ii: i discuss is this?” 7 ithisiwieek r " 15757;ng irwthe arabia this week because the americans and russians arabia this week because the ar hold ms and russians is; arabia this week because the ar hold a s and russians is; arabia this week because the ar hold a s and meeting is; to hold a major meeting between the russian tomorrow between the ressien minister and the us 27’ , the s s then; secretary of state. the first top—level meeting between such top—level meeting between those key players since
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those two key players since the invasion of ukraine some three ago. and the years ago. and theeo-ropeans have not years ago. and theea-rapeans have not been to that meeting, " decided”??? " aging}; decided to meet today and we have seen a an leaders 'e seen a an leaders from n a uk, poland, italy, spain, netherlands, nato the netherlands, the nato secretary—general, j �*the 7 i the european president of the european or meeting there. commission, or meeting there. —— all. we can now get some thoughts on what more thoughts on what is happening in these politically 7; sufor as —:s as es: jsforjoining sis
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77— z7= 7 77the7hug7e777777777777 7 7 7the7hug7e7l7ev7el7s7777777 7 financial, 7 fina7ncial, security political, financial, security is what have put in for is what they have put in for ukraine genuine fear by western 7 7 western le7aders 7 zif ifa if a is done behind 7777�*backs7with7rjsska77 i b5c127wi€h7r€j§sié77tfiét some point 7 some point vladimir7putin could threaten european security again?- could threaten european security again? could threaten european secur, of again? could threaten european secur, of meetings could threaten european secur of meetings with had could threaten european secur of meetings with american week of meetings with american in by officials in munich and by had a meeting with 7 and ukrainian7 european and ukrainian officials almost years european and ukrainian of talk; almost years european and ukrainian of talk about .most years european and ukrainian of talk about the ;t years european and ukrainian of talk about the ;t ye so and i is a thing. we so? good thing. what we might say is us has been remiss good thing. what we might say is meeting as been remiss good thing. what we might say is meeting with zen remiss now, and marco now, a7nd marco rubio areement because a i reement because we gettinganagreemeotbecausewe started ell
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—h 7 you believe or know could be do you betieve'or know—ooptdbs the for whigs , ~ ~ would tomorrow. an ceasefire 77 mar" 77 7 7 7 will7be77the777 77 7 that wit! be tbs main message , ~ , put forward, that iaiitt be the rttaih message , ~ , put forward, to the russians. a ceasefire whilst _ are i and i'm agreed? i think; ,, for um agreed? ithi$ - be or there agreed? ithi$ - be a' there agreed? whinging - be a ceasefire there agreed? lthinbtfl - be a ceasefire ti byz on a long—term 7 talks on a long—term,, as ,, e “a a; with the finding most favourwith tbs terms trump administration in terms of �*this trump administration in terms of �* this settled trump administration in terms of �*this settled in of how this could be settled in the �* . ., ., 77w7hat pete is? shit estsfissssthssis assist 7 possibility of is? shat estsfissssthssis assist 7 possibility of european the possibitity of earopean and and non-european peacsksspsrsand troops was the offer of british troops was a generous from keir a very generous offer from keir starmer that could help
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a very generous offer from keir starmei and : could help a very generous offer from keir starmei and : coult of ilp forward and effort of basically is to and a peace 7 will be something to piece ior e iong time end as qfijbe’ s s s s as 77 7wi7ll77b7e7an7 77 77t7o777 7 7 76575525 170751731: they will be an effort to make sure parties abide by the in an effort to resolve a ny negotiate and resolve any possible ceasefire violations before spins out of control. before it spins out of control. is meeting marco is thereetingibetweenmarco a nd lavrov is thereetingibetweenmarco and lavrov coming rubio and sergei lavrov coming too soon? some feel the tog soon? some people feel the has made already us has made concessions already in talking about the ukrainians not having access to nato 7 for and it membership, for example, and it almost for 7 for the 7 that putin for the aggression that carried out three years he carriedoutthreer years ago. us has not made any the us has not made any concessions to russia, in the statement nato i concessions to russia, in the statement has i concessions to russia, in the statement has been i but realistically there back, but realistically there no way to get ukraine is no way to get ukraine into nato because that would require unanimous vote of unanimi and ote of 1's�*- 777 7 unanimi and for of 1's“ 777 7 unanimiand forthe's:., s. . ,,... .. .,... unanimiand forthe european . ..... .. .,...
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members and for the european to hold that as a —: = -: 77 777i i7s7fr7a7n7kly7 7 _eeei nothing has been agreed to and the wsw as sss , ,, just 7 and the us officials beginning, and the b's'officiais look what the will look at what the ukrainians want and the wa nt want they will i}; with7 71175 hit? 777777for a come up with a proposai for a deal that will be fair. 7-= the americans still will the americans still provide of military provide some levelflofmititary cannot do it on support? europe cannot do it on its own currently. _ will 7to us. edit cehtihee to preside but what hegseth support but what pete hegseth said last in the meeting said last week in the meeting at nato ”s: trump europe to play the expects europe to piay the role in expects europe to piay the role in defending 7and mo75t 7and mo7st of europe and providing most of the lethal aid the lethal and non—lethal aid ukraine because the has security concerns multiple security concerns the will make :,.sss.sass """"""'*""’ priority about up to ii ssissits sisfi�*jt sishsiihfi es t§77 7 77777 77 7 7 77 for security problems china for security probierns are causing the they are causing the asia-pacific. cb; . ..ff national asia-pacific. cbcelollfij - national sem- asia-pacific. cbcelollfij - national security council the first term7 of
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7 for 77 777 77f7o7rj7oinin7g7 7to forjoining as. . 7to be forjoining as. . 7to be here. rjoining as. . —_ an? zzzzw —_5 zzzzw 7 7 _ 7 7— 77777— 77? .:::sss good to be here. we can get more reaction _ good to be here. we can get more reaction i the - good to be here. we can get more reaction i the wider. rners reaction to the widsf ” ” ' ' ' ” we are seeing this let's speak to sir lawrence freedman who's king's college london. what do you make of the fact that are to see that us as sbsut ts sss mama and sergei that as as s'ssst ts sss marts and sergei lavrov rubio and sergei lavrov meet tomorrow in arabia? the time there. .. such first time there has been such a meeting, in a high—level meeting, in an effort to find a deal over ukraine. f%?iis . a... sa in: , ukraine. f%?iis . a... sa im, [5 ukraine. f%?iis . a... sa inn mm upa summit 7 up a summit between setting up a summit between putin and donald trump vladimir putin and donald trump which i find more concerning vladimir putin and donald trump whicjust 1d more concerning vladimir putin and donald trump whic just the 1ore concerning vladimir putin and donald trump whic just the fact concerning vladimir putin and donald trump whic just the fact that erning vladimir putin and donald trump whic just the fact that they g than just the fact that they are haying conversation, are having thisconversation. i don't are having thisconversation, i don't and i agree and ! don't think... and ! agree , the previous speaker, we ? not get over alarmed by itself, because we are not that itself, because we are not yet into substance of 7 that the is 7 that the ukrainians
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and the europeans are consulted, as they will and the europeans are con there, as they will and the europeans are con there is 5 they will and the europeans are con there is no 1ey will and the europeans are con there is no dealiill and the europeans are con there is no deal in the end be, there is no deal in the end can without their can work without their especially the 2—2: 77 "".;;’.’h;,.is 77 7 "".;;’.’h;,.is isi we should not get ukrainians. we should not get about we been put on notice that is een put on notice that is een pl priority ice that is een pl priority for that is een pl priority for the: this is a high priority for the administration and if trump administration and if do move along quickly, 7 i tend 7 7 77 777i7t7en7d7 7d1>7u5€7f7 7 77 777i7t7en7d7 7d7oub'f,7b7ut7 77 777i7t7en7d7 7d7oub€,7b7ut7 i7f77 did the europeans would they did the europeans would have to up quite have to step up quite quickly. we are pictures of the is in paris and we 7 7 7 greeted 7 7 macron greeted 7 7 macron just eted 7 7 macronjust a ed 7 7 macron just a few —— t77he the7 have 77t7h7e77 77havethe to a ny to any american -w_——— set. as tease sss mar-ssh -w_——— eta. .e tes.ee ese mes-sen -w_——— el.l: .e tes.ee ese mes-sen -w_——— ells .e tes.ee ese mes-sen cover? they cannot do that in its entirety. _ cover? they cannot do that in its entirety, but _ cover? they cannot do that in its entirety, but. have - cover? they cannot do that in its entirety, but. have to | more, that has z— for some time, ever donald 7 donald won the and even underjoe election, and even underjoe biden, was pressure for
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vladimir putin, he said he wantsa vladimir putin, he said he wants a full will agree to sj7————.7 sj—=—77 sf*—*—= adpcdis worried and hehas his concerns, in which -lim from 777rom7eierese 7 77n7t >m7eierese 7 not reco- nise 7 7 and the us would not recognise over their because he would hold|nga chunk 77iqsieie§7§zelni§i777 —= z- by his aggression, and pieces by his aggression, and he will have to defend and he will then have to defend and it indefinitely. i don't 77. ww this is in a quick ceasefire c s s this is in a quic what;efire c s s are after and there americans are after and there have the first 7the americans 7the7americans going a ceasefire in look beyond a ceasefire in orders: a deal? look beyond a ceasefire in ordersa—s a deal? soon order to get a deal? soon as you get into the sanctions and reco-nition
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about sanctions and recognition territories and disarmament, :—-— 7 which will donald h will 7 donald trump with the 7 win onald trump with the 7 win on. is trump with the win one is trum m win one is trum a _~~ss g“; asse :. sss 77 7gu7n7 777he7 gun he talked7 7 gun he talked7about7 the gun when he talked about being to send troops you .ase sa. sea—sss. . sw— you he should have and you think he should have said that? — said that? sehss es sss ' t" " t" and i said that? ssfi'sss ss sss ' t" " w and i don't think said that? ssfi'sss ss sss ' w " w and i don't think he because m because �* and there's going to be any the likreiniens of agreemehtrthertikrainians want some ee— iii—é ww in the event: future 7 in the event that ii'e 77:7 7n the event that the 77:7 777 _777777 sssss ssssas sass. the), 7d7one they 7d7one it they 7d7one it before, they 7d7one it before, there two ne it before, there two times efore, there two times now 9, there have m - romises from -romises from vladimir of promises from vladimir putin they will be no further
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7.7 happened. i don't one not 7 the difficulties ”ngreflmste the’s�*fv—r�*les europeans ”h�*s�*sss=*“ssfs§ assesses; europeans will now in can be 7 7and that sts involve 7:5 lot of countries, each american sort american support sort american support —— sort of american support —— contributing and pieces. of american support —— contributing and piec to 7 about this now —e is a lot of 7 is a lot of work 7 7 7 7is qisthhsii; has 7 7 7 —! a zww if azww ifyou as news he watch as news conferences, he has talked repeatedly watch as news conferences, he has t.�* unhappy eatedly about. . . . . watch as news conferences, he has teunhappy atedlyaboislt. . . . watch as news conferences, he has t.�* unhappy at edl} prolonged . . . of life both of loss of life both of the ukrainian war israel
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we extra information the on those meetings, thesmeeting between senior us on those meetings, thesmeeting �* officials en senior us and on those meetings, thesmeeting �* officials willsnior us and on those meetings, thesmeeting �* officials will be >r us and on those meetings, thesmeeting �* officials will be a us and 7777s7tep step to where that step to w about at ukraine, but will not to jkraine, but will not to the ine, but will not to the beginning ill not amount to the beginning of negotiations. that from negotiations. that is from the state department, ..ss.. 7nov7v ... ..ss.. s. nov7vto77 . regarding the health of we - we don't mnflmm we don't [m what hnowverysmuchsmore than what vatican has said, we hnowverysmuchsmore than what vatican has sa was we hnowverysmuchsmore than what
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