live from london. this is bbc news. european leaders meet in paris to discuss the future of ukraine. the head of the european commission has said the continent's security is at a turning point. the kremlin says it wants to restore its relationship with washington. a meeting between top diplomats is confirmed for tuesday in saudi arabia. doctors are treating pope francis for what the vatican describes as a "complex clinical situation".

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