mike waltz, national security adviser. and there, sitting opposite them, with the us and the russian flags placed behind them and on the tables were the russian delegation, sergey lavrov, the foreign minister, and yuri ushakov, one of the key aides to vladimir putin in the kremlin sitting, you know, just a metre and a half across the table from the us delegation, i asked the question of mr rubio when i was in the room, what concessions were being asked of russia? and also, were they sidelining the ukrainians? he didn't answer that. now, we expect that the meeting itself might last several hours. in fact, possibly the best part of the day here in riyadh.

and, you know, as you've been hearing, we have heard from the russians that they see this or at least framing this as the sort of restart of normalised relations with the united states. as for the americans, they're trying to play down expectations that this is any sort of formal start of negotiations. i think a more realistic outcome will be their attempts to try to secure and even potentially fix a date for a summit between president trump and putin. and, tom, you're travelling with the us delegation. do we have any time frame on when that might happen? we don't. and i mean, it's hard to say because i think one of the things us officials are saying about this is that they're sort of scoping out the russians in their view, that they say that they see this as a first step to see if the russian delegation

are serious about wanting to go ahead with peace talks. so we don't know. we know that president trump has said that he wants to or expects to even have a summit with mr putin. but of course, it is the details being hammered out here. that will give us a bit more clarity on just how feasible that might be. in moscow, the kremlin spokesman, dmitry peskov, said vladimir putin was also open to direct negotiations with president zelensky — but any talks were translation: which putin himself has repeatedly said that if necessary, he will negotiate with zelensky. at the same time, the legal fixation of the agreements is subject to serious discussion, considering the reality that speaks of the possibility of challenging the legitimacy of zelensky himself. mr peskov also said ukraine

was within its rights to join the eu — but not nato. translation: this is the sovereign right of any country. we're talking about economic integration processes here. no one can dictate anything to any country, and we're not going to do so. we have a completely different position on issues related to security, defence or military alliances.

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towns. they will become de facto for and facto targets for hezbollah and other resistance groups in lebanon. with what has -=7: syria, there is instability in syria, there is instability there, so it be difficult there, so it will be difficult for the military to for the lebanese military to control it, and the united nations will again find monitoring more fire 0ctober seventh and hamas after october seventh and hamas genocidal attack gegggidalattack on the israeli men, women and innocent israeli men, women and children, there is a genuine on the of the israeli and israelis that a ma mm -e of attack could similar type of attack could take south lebanon take place from south lebanon into those israeli settlements which are quite small, that which are quite'sn�*iall. that be the would be vulnerable. the is that the israeli problem is that the israeli defense forces deployment

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that vladimir putin unlikely that vladimir putin trump meet in and donald trump will meet in riyadh next w decision to be taken on the still tobe taken on the side. there are key in russian close to people in the russian close to kremlin who have been to russian state tv talking to a russian state tv channel, a russian sovereign manager a has constructive dialogue has begun the biden oonatruotiue dialogue has begun never biden :, a; . oonatruotiue dialogue has begun never try en :, a; . no doubt we get dialogue. no doubt we will get lines on what was discussed and dialogue. no doubt we will get linej serious t was discussed and dialogue. no doubt we will get linej serious t w. russian sed and dialogue. no doubt we will get linej serious t w. russian side. 1d how serious the russian side. find what the make of it. the office of the president of ukraine and joins us live what tell us about the meetings today?

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my posit of negotiations with trum- , trum-, m trum - , m president president trump, my president had several chances meet him had several chances to meet him in person last december. and several phone calls with had several phone calls with but we are the us him, but we are with the us side having bilateral and then get down negotiations and then get down to the next steps. at negotiations and then get down to the next steps.— you are getting the moment ¥eu are'aettinathew w . w and brush off, and the american sony saying they are giving atone easine thatr are sienna ' " ' ' " assurances at this moment vague assurances at this moment in time. how you find in time. how do you find leveraged in this process? i leveraged in this process? “7t” 7 leveraged in this process? �*7'7' 7 think we leveraged in this process? "7'7' 7 think we need to find any we are -mz| leverages. we are working with representatives of the official representatives of the... my official representatives of the... my president like i said side. my president like i said had a phone call with president trump and in munich a bilateral with itiice official meeting with vice presidentjd and the presidentjd vance and the i mentioned the next team. i mentioned the next steps, with kellogg

if we will proceed. if america becomes — we will proceed. if america becomes increasingly - becomes increasingly disinterested in ukraine and intent on getting out in a hurry, this be messy and lor europe. inie for ukraine and for europe. we could end with could end up with something like the minsk agreement which was a disaster. do you that 7 that from 7 prevent that from happening? i have any that us might7 not the us might become not in ukraine like interested in tihra'ine tihe' is. as interested in tin-“sine ties is. as far as europe is putin is. as far as europe is concerned, that's my concexnedfthatls what my clearly in his public president clearly in his public we that the speeches. we hope that the european side will be more quick in defining their position, at least the —: = -: representative to be a . a. a . a - in representative to be 4... .. a- a in the talks. today

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_i ii. we are ready discuss then we are ready to discuss it. ~ , ., ~ it. why did the president take the decision _ it. why did the president take the decision to _ it. why did the president take the decision to go _ it. why did the president take the decision to go to - the decision to go to ankara it can accident he today, it can be accident he went to another nato today, it can be accident he went to ar a :her nato mantis today, it can be accident he went to ar a reason :o mantis today, it can be accident he went to ar a reason for artist today, it can be accident he went to ar a reason for that? . today, it can be accident he went to ar a reason for that? it official visit that was was an official visit that was well ahead and in mousse—f? you have bilateral diplomacy you have bilateral visits to countries. yesterday was in the uae 7 was in the uae with 7 was in the uae with a 7 was in the uae with a huge he was in the uae with a huge bilateral agenda and signed a important 7 impor7ta nt docume7nt. with release ant docume7nt. with release of docume7nt. with release of hostages, . with the release of hostages, today it is the same in with the release of hostages, today it is oft same in with the release of hostages, today it is of topics in with the release of hostages, today it is of topics to with the release of hostages, today it is of topics to discuss with the release of hostages, today it is of topics to discuss andi lots of topics to discuss and thatis lots of topics to discuss and that is why she is his lots of topics to discuss and that is visit. 1e is his lots of topics to discuss and that is visit. the; his lots of topics to discuss and j that is, visit._ his g _e demands the demands made by discussing the demands made by the european there the europeansidethat there be a us backstop in order would be a us backstop in order that they would put a peacekeeping force into

ukraine. what fee you would look like a us backstop? when we are talking _ look like a us backstop? when we are talking about _ look like a us backstop? when we are talking about security l we are talking about security —, we are talking about security . . for ukraine, guarantees for ukraine, it should be clear security 7 "mos the guarantees coming from the countries is very european countries is very important. but supported and enabled by the us the enabled by the us side, the position he reiterates on both the us and side. position he reiterates on both the us and - side. very i for being with us the programme. the rouramme. ,, according to the iranian judiciary news agency. locations in the country. in january as they rode

but news of their detention only emerged on thursday last week. they crossed into iran from armenia in december and were ultimately headed for australia. the couple had shared regular social media updates from their travels. we will get update on as we go the programme. as we go through the programme. plenty of news on that on the we“. “5 “ate: ”a “w" -~*�*wo www .. .. ... news we“. “5 “ate: ”a “w" -~*�*wo w .. .. ... news website. which will bbc news website. which will take a short break, around the across the uk, world and across the uk, this . bbc news.

the israeli military has withdrawn from villages in southern lebanon but says it's retaining troops of the ceasefire agreement that ended the war with hezbollah.

the november truce stipulated that israeli was holding on to five outposts because of a continued the israelis have accused iran of trying to rebuild let's cross live to our correspondent, hugo bachega who is in southern lebanon. the un criticising delay to israeli withdrawal? that idea that they that word is doing that idea that they lot that word is doing that idea that they lot of "rat word is doing that idea that they lot of at w: �* em that idea that they lot of at w: �* e] awful lot. of work. . have lebanese authorities have genes strong lebanese authorities have j’féf strong reaction this issued a strong reaction this morning saying that they will any remaining israeli

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we'll be left with a fair bit of cloud in scotland a weather front bringing some rain in across parts of the west. but in central and eastern

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