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live from london. this is bbc news. russia and the us end their first day of direct talks since moscow invaded ukraine three years ago. marco rubio says the meeting was the first step in a long and difficultjourney. the goal is to bring an end to this conflict in a way that's fair, enduring, sustainable and acceptable to all parties involved. i have every reason to believe that the americn side understands our position, is beginning to understand our position better. ukraine's president volodymyr zelensky has again emphasised that talks about ukraine must
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not happen without them. it is fundamentally important that any talk on the end to the war do not happen behind the backs of the key parties involved. a british couple, arrested in iran while on a motorbike tour, are charged with espionag. they were detained in january. the moment a delta airline plane crash—landed and flipped over on the runway in toronto, all 80 people on board survived. welcome to the programme. at ending moscow's war against ukraine,
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after what they called �*constructive talks' in saudi arabia. they were the first face— to—face discussions since russia's full— scale invasion three years ago. there were no ukrainian officials at the talks. the us secretary of state, marco rubio, said the goal was a fair, enduring and sustainable end to the war. we've and sustainable end to the war. agreed on four pri| that we've agreed on four principles that we believe are important, we will point our teams respected work quickly to reestablish the functionality of our respective missions in washington and moscow for us to be or to continue to move down this road, we have deft diplomatic facilities that are operating and functioning normally. the second point is that will appoint a high—level team from our end up negotiate and work through the end of the conflict in ukraine in a way thatis conflict in ukraine in a way that is enduring and acceptable to all the parties engaged. the third point is to begin to work at a high level as well to begin to discuss and think about and examine both the geopolitical and economic cooperation that could result from an end to the conflict in ukraine and obviously, led to
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see that be successful and enduring in orderfor that see that be successful and enduring in order for that to be possible in the last thing we agreed to is that while our teams are going to be working on this, the four of us, the five of us that are here today are going to remain engaged in this process to make sure that it is moving along in a productive way. russia's foreign minister, sergei lavrov, confirmed that russia and the united states agreed to establish a process for settling the ukraine conflict — but took aim at previous us administrations, blaming president biden and nato expansion for causing the conflict. we explained today that, and we noted that president trump in several speeches was the first of western leaders to say that dragging ukraine into nato was one of the main, what is happening, this is one ofjoe biden�*s biggest mistakes of his
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administration and with trump as president, that would never happen. president putin has stressed more than once that nato's expansion and ukraine by the north atlantic was a direct threat to the russian federation and to our sovereignty. earlier, i spoke to sergei markov, advisor to president putin. i asked him whether russia refusing to allow nato boots on the ground to maintain peace difficult for the prospects of a future deal. i think russian position is because it is based on the simple fact that a lot of money has been put into the war and doing so would undermine the
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peace and security grant is important but security guarantee of ukraine is very simple. ukraine should be back to where it was in 1991 and ukraine was outside nearby russia, it was before the events of 2014. you security guarantee if ukraine is democracy, it is political regime which respects the rights of the people to speak their native language and 70% of ukrainians, this is russian language and it is political freedom for the political party thatis freedom for the political party that is been prohibited by president zelensky. can ijust
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say obviously ukrainians deny that characterisation of being nazis. but going back into the history come the key point now is given where we are three years into this conflict, ukraine surely cannot feel secure in any future deal without some sort of forces on the ground to keep it secure in the ground to keep it secure in the future. is the ground to keep it secure in the future-— the future. is your political position. _ the future. is your political position, the _ the future. is your political position, the political- position, the political position, the political position of the government which, _ position of the government which, it_ position of the government which, it is not reality. we don't represent _ which, it is not reality. - don't represent any government, i'm just putting the argument that we have heard from european leaders already that some sort of peacekeeping operation is potentially something that needs to be looked at. something that needs to be looked at— something that needs to be looked at. ., ., ., , ., looked at. position of european leaders should _ looked at. position of european leaders should be _ looked at. position of european leaders should be fully - leaders should be fully ignored. because european leaders, they support war and trying to make obstacles in the
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way of peace. russia united states have wanted to create a peaceful condition. european leaders want to continue the war. in the solution is nato is an aggressive military line. nato should not come to the russian border and solutions for ukraine should be democracy. free political prisoners and ukrainian citizens who support the russia and ukraine should be friends and ukraine should be friends and they should be moved from ukrainian prisons to ukrainian parliaments. with more on this, i'm joined by vitaliy shevchenko, russia editor at bbc monitoring: ukrainian leader has cancelled his visit to saudi arabia tomorrow postponing it until
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next month they reportedly think he does not want to give legitimacy to the us russian meeting, what are you hearing. what you're hearing in turkey is the original as it was understood was to go to the united arab emirates and saudi arabia and i think he was visibly upset and annoyed and tired. he said look, we've heard about this meeting between the americans and the russians from the media, we were not invited. we, these negotiations need to be fair. but what we do not want is for these negotiations to be carried out behind our backs. that is also a phrase that he used. ,, ., that is also a phrase that he used, ,, ., ., , ., that is also a phrase that he used. ,, ., ., , ., ., used. showing a bit of what he said as well — used. showing a bit of what he said as well and _ used. showing a bit of what he said as well and a _ used. showing a bit of what he said as well and a few- used. showing a bit of what he l said as well and a few moments but realistically, painful as may be for ukraine, the reality is that without us military and financial support,
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is that without us military and financialsupport, even financial support, even european leaders financialsupport, even european leaders cannot bolster ukraine's defences even if they want to and politically, it is not necessarily easy, especially for western europe to spend more money on this and raise taxes and cut public spending ulcer. so the deal is inevitable, isn't it? i spending ulcer. so the deal is inevitable, isn't it?— inevitable, isn't it? i think that's the _ inevitable, isn't it? i think that's the main _ inevitable, isn't it? i think that's the main reason - inevitable, isn't it? ithink| that's the main reason why inevitable, isn't it? ithink- that's the main reason why he looked so unhappy. if you look at the numbers over the past three years, european nations and european institutions have actually given ukraine a bit more than america did. military, financial, but it from american aid is suspended completely, will the eu be able to afford to ramp up their spending to replace what america is not giving and be, as you said come they have the political will to do that and president zelensky said in a news conference in turkey
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that's notjust america that doesn't want us to that's notjust america that doesi also nt us to that's notjust america that doesi also some :o that's notjust america that doesi also some european there also some european countries were no countries such as hungary and slovakia, they are friendlier towards moscow than most of the other european nations and here's the mood in turkey, it's so different from what we saw in saudi arabia when the americans talk to the russians about smiles and one phrase sticks in my mind, the kremlin�*s foreign policy adviser, emerging from the talks, it was asked by russian media, how did it go? and he said, not bad, not bad. inc. you very much indeed. by by make your speaking at a news conference because he had just been meeting the turkish
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president who hosted that conference. it president who hosted that conference.— president who hosted that conference. , ., ., , conference. it is fundamentally important _ conference. it is fundamentally important that _ conference. it is fundamentally important that talks _ conference. it is fundamentally important that talks about - conference. it is fundamentally important that talks about the | important that talks about the end of the war do not have been behind the backs of the parties involved that are affected by the consequences of russian aggression. and in the broader sense, europe, turkey and great britain must be involved in the talks and in working out the necessary security guarantee together with america that concerns our destiny and are part of the world. turkey has played a role as a broker in turkey has played a role as a broke ,.. broker in the full-scale invasion _ broker in the full-scale invasion and _ broker in the full-scale invasion and numerousj broker in the full-scale - invasion and numerous round of prison exchanges and brokered the black sea grain initiative. in that sense, it
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is natural for president zelensky to pay a visit where he might hope to gain more political and diplomatic support from the turkish president who has been serving as a mediator which both of said that they are looking for a just peace for the end of this conflict between ukraine and russia. president erdogan also said that turkey is reaffirming its support for ukraine hospitals territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence when asked directly by a ukrainian said these are must—have for turkey in any future peace talks that are going to happen. let's show you a shot from a press conference that is due to start in toronto and we are expecting to hear from the airport which on the crash of the delta airlines flight in toronto and we will go to that
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we can. around the world and across the uk, around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.
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continuing their advance in the drunk humanitarian crisis. the rebels were largely ethnic, have taken over territory and captured the largest city in the mineral rich region. united nations is up to 3000 people were killed as it fell in around 400,000 people have been forced to flee in recent weeks because of the rebel advance. just a warning, you may find this report from a correspondent distressing. the road to victory for the m 23. self—styled liberators. they
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now control the second major city they have taken in recent weeks. the rebels have city they have taken in recent weeks. tt for bels have city they have taken in recent weeks. tt for three |ave city they have taken in recent weeks. tt for three years. advancing for three years. backed by rwandan streets, a experts say. 0n the streets, a body lies unburied. they say they'll bring to chaos. but their gains, the cost. paid they'll bring to chaos. but their 5 now the cost. paid they'll bring to chaos. but their 5 now in e cost. paid they'll bring to chaos. but their 5 now in the st. paid they'll bring to chaos. but their 5 now in the tent aid they'll bring to chaos. but their 5 now in the tent ini they'll bring to chaos. but their 5 now in the tent in an many. now in the tent in an overcrowded hospital. she is 13 and has lost his leg and his parents. he struggles to stand so the sheets can be changed. and in the next bed, david is
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15 and was hit by a stray bullet. it was the rebels who orphaned him. it bullet. it was the rebels who orphaned him.— bullet. it was the rebels who orphaned him. it was a sunday. it wasn't m23 _ orphaned him. it was a sunday. it wasn't m23 the _ orphaned him. it was a sunday. it wasn't m23 the drop - orphaned him. it was a sunday. it wasn't m23 the drop the - it wasn't m23 the drop the bomb. those fighting between them and the army. they dropped them and the army. they dropped the bomb. and i lost six members of my family. the rebels like _ members of my family. the rebels like to _ members of my family. the rebels like to steer - members of my family. the rebels like to steer clear of safe? theirfight rebels like to steer clear of safe? their fight isn't the cameras. their fight isn't just for land but for what lies beneath it. rare earth minerals, crucialfor global technology. human rights groups accuse the and their accuse the rebels and their enemies, the congolese army of accuse the rebels and their enemies, the shelling, i army of accuse the rebels and their enemies, the shelling, mass of indiscriminate shelling, mass rape and summary executions.
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the m 23 have spread fear among the displaced and camps, a refuge perched on volcanic rock. the rebels want the camps to be erased along with any rival armed groups hiding in them. , .., rival armed groups hiding in them. , ., ., rival armed groups hiding in them. ., ., , them. they came and told us you have three days _ them. they came and told us you have three days to _ were very scared because we have nowhere to go. 0ur houses have nowhere to go. 0ur houses have been destroyed. have nowhere to go. 0ur houses have bee here troyed. have nowhere to go. 0ur houses have bee here and 5d. have nowhere to go. 0ur houses have bee here and how can we killing us here and how can we go home to nothing killing us here and how can we go home familying killing us here and how can we go home family doing just extended family doing just that. extended family doing 'ust that. ~ ., extended family doing 'ust that. ., extended family doing just that-_ the i extended family doing just - that._ the family not see the benefit. the family on their now and it will be on their way now and it will be a two dayjourney by foot and around the camp, have seen many
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packing up and getting ready to go and many say they're frightened to leave but they're also scared to stay. the m 23 now say they are encouraging voluntary returns but this looks like one more forced
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pearson's fire toronto pearson's fire chief todd akin and the c00 todd akin and the coo of toronto pearson. with that, i todd akin and the coo of toront welcome . with that, i todd akin and the coo of toront welcome . with t pearson like to welcome toronto pearson ceo who will take like to welcome toronto pearson ceo of who will take like to welcome toronto pearson ceo of wt after take a couple of questions after her remarks. . ._ g uld 2 tuld e _uld _r bbc he, see 539“? se? elsi if??? audience. he, see 539“? se? elsi if??? 5 life ence. injuries in yesterday's accident. every you board a flight we injuries in yesterday's accident. eve be you board a flight we injuries in yesterday's accident.
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eve be joined u board a flight we injuries in yesterday's accident. eve be joined by oard a flight we injuries in yesterday's accident. eve be joined by flight flight we "flight w flight crew 77 flight crew foftevh. it flight crew fofteén. it their ita to make them comtortabie and jig. it? tee? ifiéfi ifififfifiéfilé $5.13 the jiiiii it? tee? ifiéfi iififfiiéfilé éfifi the and they jiiiii it? tee? ifiéfi iififfiiéfilé éfifi incredible the and they jiiiii it? tee? ifiéfi iififfiiéfilé éfifi incredible job and they jiiiii it? tee? ifiéfi iififfiiéfilé éfifi incredible job with and they jiiiii it? tee? ifiéfi iififfiiéfilé éfifi incrediblejob with and wei do an incredible job with that. we saw the that saw the most important role that they play in action yesterday and of delta flight 4819, led ' 7 [ed 7 7 to safety, heroically led passengers to safety, evacuating a jet that had overturned on the runway on that cm. the runway nnta'ec�*mthatwas and cm. the renwey ante-ec�*mthetwas and fire. i think each every one of these every attendant member i also t 515; think” " flight " 7 7' " flight attendant and every flight attendant and crew the industry. thank member across the industry. thank you for all that you do every day and and of safe �* travel. 7 �* travel. in? �*travel. in 5: "2; the air travel. in regards to the yesterday at accident yesterday at approximately 2:15 p:m., sets; flight minneapolis 77 minneapolis to 77 minneapolis to toronto
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, c involved jjj zi : involved in j: i 2 involved in a aircraft 7 upon 7 toronto 7 toronto pearson. 7 toronto pearson. the léfieéififi ée’t—éféfiié' e§§f§fifi the was 533355 éfi'téféfiié' e§§f§fifi 355 was carrying 533355 ée'téféfifis e§§f§fifi 335 was carrying crew 533355 éfi'téféfiié' e§§f§fifi 355 was carrying crew and and 5 and among them, 22 77 attehdants, airports 7 airpo mounted "deem airpo mounted at "deem airpb mounted at textbook within and” the time, 7 time, there were v�*to ' v�*to but 7 7 7 v�*to but not 7 7 7 minor to critical but not life—threatening of 19 passengers went to the hospital'swjth more going in the time period after. this in the time period after. this in t delta e period after. this in t delta air eriod after. gatthistime, delta air lines is passengers reported that 19 of those passengers been released two our thoughts of our thoughts ’f �*families. 77 �*families. we time and care to care gleat time and, care to extend care each of great time and, care to extend care each of the that were
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after the accident and that comfort, as support includes comfort, as well as support includes comfort, as well as support in their emotional well—being since we have the. ,. ,. v v the v n process completed the reunification process for of the ferretl ef the'remeining passe-ages will to for them this 7 77 eh}; exiéfidéd" 7 77 7 this extended time. i 7 77 7th}; exiéfidédtin}; | an" during this extended time. i will now give you more about m the eeeretiene et peereen. yestereey what to expect in the days end whet to expect in the days last thursday end whet to expect in the deye last thursday to pearson extreme separate snowstorms conditions, two separate snowstorms and on thursday and sunday, we end en. thereeeyi end seneeg. we get 20 end en thdredeyi end sendeg. we get 20 inches, end en theredeyi end sendeg. we get 20 inches, 50 cm that actually typical. in is within that time window m in all 777 777i7nall77of7 7 7 numerous ' " .,g 7 numero7us flight ~ ’: ' numero7usflight" 7t'and 7
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creating nemereesflight—deleys—end toronto creating nemereesflight—delays—and toronto pearson, of scheduledflights 77s7chedl7il7e7dfl7i7gi7i7ts were 7 7 7 77s7chedl7il7e7d flights were cah7cel7led on thursday. 75 of 1012 flights flights are cancelled on 128 77937 7777177275 headgear 7 7 128 7937 scheduled flights friday. 128 of 937 scheddled flights on saturday friday. 128 of 837 scheddled flights on saturday and 371 were ca ncetled en�*e'netctrdaye nd 1571 were on sunday7; when he was clear day and an scheduled the 777’725h’e75d7i7ea77 the results scheandd the results scheanddo the results 777777sc7h7e7and do part the results 777777sc7h7e7and do part to “he r7esults yesterday and do part to the accident were 462 scheduled flights 7and5447 7 77 7 77 7 777 7and5744 operat7ed. 7 77 7 cancelled and 544 flights operated. let's now about the eets “mas tel? the“? the and what to eets heae tett�* eheet the and what to in m.- mm m m lastniht,seven m ——** —|m 7: of canada in toronto
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peereen te begin the investigatien; , ~ ,, more of those peereen te begin the investigatien; , ~ ~ more of those investigators 13 more of those investigators arrived today. members of the us aviation administration here on—site, participating in investigation. participating in investigation. part is tating in investigation. part is a ting in the investigation. as it is a mitsubishi aircraft, mitsubishi will here site as well, and delta -emi airlines has sent their goal team, who are ready here on—site. so what who are ready here cth-site. sea-whet all who are ready here org-site. sea-whet all mean for pearson and 777777 pear;>7n7777 and the 7 7777 77 pear;>7n77 77 and the days toronto pearson today and the days our operations ahead? 0ur emergency operations centre remains open, though centre remains open. though. ,. on north—
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