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tv   The Context with Christian Fraser  BBC News  February 18, 2025 9:00pm-9:16pm GMT

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ukraine didn't have a seat at the table. nor did europe. instead its president volodymr zelensky was in ankara meeting his turkish counterpart president erdogan. mr zelenskyy criticised the us—russia talks for not including a ukrainian representative — nor a european one. mr zelensky stressed that talks about his country must not happen behind its back.
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we see nervousness and anger amongst european leaders they gathered in paris. rajini — you were in paris for that summit — what was the atmosphere like about the eu leaders? in many ways european nations feel they have been shut out from the stalks and we have heard that. this was a hastily arranged summit.
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what was so striking was we did not get a big joint photo opportunity afterwards, there was no big communique. yet some leaders like the uk prime minister keir starmer saying that he was going to take some of the views from that meeting yesterday when he meets donald trump in washington next week. in many ways it felt like europe does not really know yet what the next move is because it is being led by what is happening where you are, of course and what is happening in moscow. some think that is what is so interesting. and we have heard reports to knights that emmanuel macron it's going to host another potential meeting on wednesday with more people invited to join, on wednesday with more people invited tojoin, more european countries, norway, sweden, the czech republic, that kind of thing. so these growing parallel coalition that seems to be getting bigger, but in many ways it is guided by where you are, isn't it? we
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many ways it is guided by where you are, isn't it?— you are, isn't it? we are hearing _ you are, isn't it? we are hearing the _ you are, isn't it? we are hearing the last - you are, isn't it? we are hearing the last few - you are, isn't it? we are - hearing the last few minutes that marco rubio the secretary of state has been calling around some of those european leaders to say that they will be involved in the next phase of these talks, whatever that
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countries he is called european countries and is — he is called european countries and is purposely— he is called european countries and is purposely saying - he is called european countries and is purposely saying that. and is purposely saying that everyone _ and is purposely saying that everyone will— and is purposely saying that everyone will be _ and is purposely saying that everyone will be involved, i and is purposely saying that . everyone will be involved, but i think— everyone will be involved, but i think that _ everyone will be involved, but i think that this _ everyone will be involved, but i think that this was _ everyone will be involved, but i think that this was a - everyone will be involved, but i think that this was a very - i think that this was a very pointed _ i think that this was a very pointed first— i think that this was a very pointed first step - i think that this was a very pointed first step of - i think that this was a very pointed first step of them | i think that this was a very - pointed first step of them just meeting — pointed first step of them just meeting with _ pointed first step of them just meeting with russia. - pointed first step of them 'ust meeting with russia.�* meeting with russia. chuck, i will bring _ meeting with russia. chuck, i will bring you _ meeting with russia. chuck, i will bring you and, _ will bring you and, unfortunately i will not wear a hat but i will complement yours. actually saying there that donald trump wants to show
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the world that he is in control, he is in charge of this, but do you think he is in control? i this, but do you think he is in control? ~ , this, but do you think he is in control? ,, , ., control? i think it is for donald _ control? i think it is for donald trump - control? i think it is for donald trump to - control? i think it is for donald trump to say i thinkthat ' ’ ’ think that americans . . think that americans are . but i think that americans are watching _ but i think that americans are watching this in making sure that— watching this in making sure that it — watching this in making sure that it is _ watching this in making sure that it is done in a way that they— that it is done in a way that they would like to see it done while — they would like to see it done while donald trump is moving quickly— while donald trump is moving quicklyjust to show something is sitting — quicklyjust to show something is sitting down. i think you could _ is sitting down. i think you could have done all of this at the same _ could have done all of this at the same time by including partners _ the same time by including partners and for god sakes, including _ partners and for god sakes, including people who are actually out shooting bullets at each _ actually out shooting bullets at each other like ukraine. so their— at each other like ukraine. so their people into the us that will take this a very different ways— will take this a very different ways and the overarching
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unpopularity of the
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acting as a mediator and separating the party and first working _ separating the party and first working on the russians as to what — working on the russians as to what he — working on the russians as to what he is _ working on the russians as to what he is going to expect in terms — what he is going to expect in terms of— what he is going to expect in terms of security guarantees. 0nce — terms of security guarantees. once the _ terms of security guarantees. once the security guarantees are in— once the security guarantees are in place, then you can start— are in place, then you can start talking about how much real estate russia is going to
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walk— real estate russia is going to walk away with and what they are going to pay for in terms of alliances with us and security _ of alliances with us and security guarantees for ukraine. zelensky will be included in due course, in fact there — included in due course, in fact there will— included in due course, in fact there will be several meetings with him. _ there will be several meetings with him, i'm fairly certain, that— with him, i'm fairly certain, that will— with him, i'm fairly certain, that will be bilateral, one on one — that will be bilateral, one on one to — that will be bilateral, one on one to make sure he is on board as well~ — one to make sure he is on board as well~ as _ one to make sure he is on board as well. as far as the europeans are concerned, as usual. — europeans are concerned, as usual, they are not leading, they— usual, they are not leading, they are _ usual, they are not leading, they are in paris whining, talking _ they are in paris whining, talking about why they are they are in paris whining, talkir to bout why they are they are in paris whining, talkir to be it why they are they are in paris whining, talkir to be at vhy they are they are in paris whining, talkir to be at vhy table. �*e they are in paris whining, talkir to be at vhy table. and years to be at the table. and they— years to be at the table. and they have _ years to be at the table. and they have not taken advantage of it _ they have not taken advantage of it. now they're going to have — of it. now they're going to have to _ of it. now they're going to have to sit on the sidelines until— have to sit on the sidelines until the _ have to sit on the sidelines until the steel progresses guite _ until the steel progresses uuite , , until the steel progresses uuite g , quite a bit further. just come in there. _ quite a bit further. just come in there. on _
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out so far, haven't they? this war is in europe.— war is in europe. look, the eur0pean _ war is in europe. look, the european should _ war is in europe. look, the european should have - war is in europe. look, the| european should have been taking — european should have been taking the lead on this at the very— taking the lead on this at the very beginning. not the biden administration, not president trumu — administration, not president trump. the european commission should _ trump. the european commission should have been front and centre _ should have been front and centre in— should have been front and centre in putting together a coalition where they were leading and they were leading from — leading and they were leading from behind in this case. they are the — from behind in this case. they are the ones threatened, not the united states and not others _ the united states and not others. and yet they have been waiting — others. and yet they have been waiting for others to take the lead. — waiting for others to take the lead, namely us.—
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waiting for others to take the lead, namely us. stay with us there. i want _ lead, namely us. stay with us there. i want to _ lead, namely us. stay with us there. i want to bring - lead, namely us. stay with us there. i want to bring in - lead, namely us. stay with us there. i want to bring in our. there. i want to bring in our panel here. chuck and ashley as well. chuck, what is your view of what gordon has said there, do you agree president trump is stepping in where the eu has been lax?— been lax? the president is stepping — been lax? the president is stepping everywhere - been lax? the president is stepping everywhere and l stepping everywhere and stepping everywhere and stepping isjust another, here is another place where he is stepping. he is in control of what — stepping. he is in control of what he _ stepping. he is in control of what he is doing, i think it is reckless _ what he is doing, i think it is reckless val. i think the russians are desperate to be validated on the role —— world stage — validated on the role —— world stage as — validated on the role —— world stage as a _ validated on the role —— world stage as a global power. they have — stage as a global power. they have raised a lot of chaos around _ have raised a lot of chaos around the world and invaded a sovereign — around the world and invaded a sovereign country and i think donald — sovereign country and i think donald trump is trained as a like — donald trump is trained as a like he — donald trump is trained as a like he sat on the campaign trail, — like he sat on the campaign trail, that i can
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like he sat on the campaign trail, that i have. a lot of that to what we have. a lot of that will take — to what we have. a lot of that will take place _ to what we have. a lot of that will take place and _ to what we have. a lot of that will take place and i— to what we have. a lot of that will take place and i think- will take place and i think some _ will take place and i think some won't— will take place and i think some won't and - will take place and i thinkl some won't and somewhat will take place and i think- some won't and somewhat well do it. some won't and somewhat well do it but _ some won't and somewhat well do it but the — some won't and somewhat well do it but the eu _ some won't and somewhat well do it. but the eu had— some won't and somewhat well do it. but the eu had a— some won't and somewhat well do it. but the eu had a 10%_ some won't and somewhat well do it. but the eu had a 10% tax- some won't and somewhat well do it. but the eu had a 10% tax on. it. but the eu had a 10% tax on cars— it. but the eu had a 10% tax on cars and — it. but the eu had a 10% tax on cars and other— it. but the eu had a 10% tax on cars and other have _ it. but the eu had a 10% tax on cars and other have a - it. but the eu had a 10% tax on cars and other have a 2.5% - cars and other have a 2.5% which _ cars and other have a 2.5% which is _ cars and other have a 2.5% which is the _ cars and other have a 2.5% which is the exact - cars and other have a 2.5% which is the exact same i cars and other have a 2.5% which is the exact same asj cars and other have a 2.5% - which is the exact same as us. already— which is the exact same as us. already we _ which is the exact same as us. already we have _ which is the exact same as us. already we have saved - which is the exact same as us. already we have saved a - already we have saved a tremendous _ already we have saved a tremendous amount... i already we have saved a tremendous amount... president trum - tremendous amount... president trump speaking _ tremendous amount... president trump speaking in _ tremendous amount... president
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trump speaking in mar-a-lago l trump speaking in mar—a—lago there about tariffs and executive orders that he has been signing. we will take a short pause now and talk about what he is discussing there. we are with the former ambassador to the eu and our panel. stay with us.
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welcome back to the programme. i will reintroduce the panel who are with us for the next hour. we're joined now by chuck rocha, strategist for the democrats and republican strategist, ashley davis. and gordon and sondra lin a formerly us and her to the eu. we took a short break and on the we will go back to mar—a—lago because president trump has been signing more executive orders and he has
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been speaking afterwards. let's have a listen on what he had to say. have a listen on what he had to sa . r , have a listen on what he had to sa , �* , , ., p, have a listen on what he had to say. as part of the peace deal with putin _ say. as part of the peace deal with putin would _ say. as part of the peace deal with putin would you - say. as part of the peace deal with putin would you be - say. as part of the peace deal| with putin would you be willing to consider removing all american troops from europe? nobody— american troops from europe? nobody has asked me to do that so i nobody has asked me to do that so i don't — nobody has asked me to do that so i don't think— nobody has asked me to do that so i don't think you _ nobody has asked me to do that so i don't think you would - nobody has asked me to do that so i don't think you would have i so i don't think you would have to do— so i don't think you would have to do that _ so i don't think you would have to do that and _ so i don't think you would have to do that and i _ so i don't think you would have to do that and i would - so i don't think you would have to do that and i would not - to do that and i would not want to do that and i would not want to do— to do that and i would not want to do that _ to do that and i would not want to do that. but— to do that and i would not want to do that. but that _ to do that and i would not want to do that. but that question i to do that. but that question has never— to do that. but that question has never really _ to do that. but that question has never really come - to do that. but that question has never really come up. i to do that. but that question. has never really come up. sir, do ou has never really come up. sir, do you support _ has never really come up. do you support stationing european peacekeeping troops in ukraine _ european peacekeeping troops in ukraine as part of this peace deal? — ukraine as part of this peace deal? if— ukraine as part of this peace deal? , ., ., ., ., deal? if they want to do that, that's great. _ deal? if they want to do that, that's great, i _ deal? if they want to do that, that's great, i am _ deal? if they want to do that, that's great, i am all- deal? if they want to do that, that's great, i am all for- deal? if they want to do that, that's great, i am all for it. i that's great, i am all for it. if they— that's great, i am all for it. if they want _ that's great, i am all for it. if they want to _ that's great, i am all for it. if they want to do - that's great, i am all for it. if they want to do that. - that's great, i am all for it. if they want to do that. i. if they want to do that. i think— if they want to do that. i think that _ if they want to do that. i think that would - if they want to do that. i think that would be - if they want to do that. ij think that would be fine. if they want to do that. i. think that would be fine. i know— think that would be fine. i know france _ think that would be fine. i know france has - think that would be fine. i. know france has mentioned think that would be fine. i- know france has mentioned and others — know france has mentioned and others the _ know france has mentioned and others. the uk— know france has mentioned and others. the uk has— know france has mentioned and others. the uk has mentioned i others. the uk has mentioned it, others. the uk has mentioned it. but. — others. the uk has mentioned it. but. yeah _ others. the uk has mentioned it, but, yeah. if— others. the uk has mentioned it, but, yeah. if we _ others. the uk has mentioned it, but, yeah. if we have - others. the uk has mentioned it, but, yeah. if we have a - it, but, yeah. if we have a piece _ it, but, yeah. if we have a piece deal— it, but, yeah. if we have a piece deal i _ it, but, yeah. if we have a piece deal i think- piece deal i think having troops _ piece deal i think having troops over— piece deal i think having troops over there - piece deal i think having troops over there from i piece deal i think having. troops over there from the standpoint— troops over there from the standpoint of— troops over there from the standpoint of europe, - troops over there from the standpoint of europe, we i troops over there from the - standpoint of europe, we won't have _ standpoint of europe, we won't have to — standpoint of europe, we won't have to put _ standpoint of europe, we won't have to put any— standpoint of europe, we won't have to put any over— standpoint of europe, we won't have to put any over there - have to put any over there because _ have to put any over there because we _ have to put any over there because we are _ have to put any over there because we are very- have to put any over there because we are very far i have to put any over there - because we are very far away. but having _ because we are very far away. but having troops _ because we are very far away. but having troops over - because we are very far away. but having troops over there i but having troops over there would — but having troops over there would be _ but having troops over there would be fine. _ but having troops over there would be fine. i— but having troops over there would be fine. i would - but having troops over there would be fine. i would not. would be fine. i would not object _ would be fine. i would not
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object to— would be fine. i would not object to it _ would be fine. i would not object to it at _ would be fine. i would not object to it at all. - would be fine. i would not object to it at all. we - would be fine. i would not object to it at all. we are i object to it at all. we are talking _ object to it at all. we are talking about _ object to it at all. we are talking about this - object to it at all. we are talking about this now. . object to it at all. we are - talking about this now. peace. he had — talking about this now. peace. he had either— talking about this now. peace. he had either a _ talking about this now. peace. he had either a cease—fire - talking about this now. peace. he had either a cease—fire or. talking about this now. peace. j he had either a cease—fire or a piece — he had either a cease—fire or a piece itself— he had either a cease—fire or a piece itself and _ he had either a cease—fire or a piece itself and we _ he had either a cease—fire or a piece itself and we are - he had either a cease—fire or a piece itself and we are looking j piece itself and we are looking to do— piece itself and we are looking to do both _ piece itself and we are looking to do both. let's— piece itself and we are looking to do both. let's start - piece itself and we are looking to do both. let's start off- to do both. let's start off with— to do both. let's start off with the _ to do both. let's start off with the cease—fire - to do both. let's start off with the cease—fire and l to do both. let's start off with the cease—fire and if to do both. let's start off- with the cease—fire and if they want — with the cease—fire and if they want to— with the cease—fire and if they want to do— with the cease—fire and if they want to do that. _ with the cease—fire and if they want to do that. i— with the cease—fire and if they want to do that. i know - with the cease—fire and if they| want to do that. i know france was _ want to do that. i know france was willing _ want to do that. i know france was willing to _ want to do that. i know france was willing to do _ want to do that. i know france was willing to do that - want to do that. i know france was willing to do that and - want to do that. i know france was willing to do that and i- was willing to do that and i thought— was willing to do that and i thought that _ was willing to do that and i thought that was _ was willing to do that and i thought that was a - thought that was a beautiful gesture _ thought that was a beautiful gesture do _ thought that was a beautiful aesture. ,, . thought that was a beautiful aesture. ., ., , gesture. do you have any message _ gesture. do you have any message for _ gesture. do you have any message for ukrainians l gesture. do you have any i message for ukrainians who gesture. do you have any - message for ukrainians who come after— message for ukrainians who come after three — message for ukrainians who come after three years of fighting, might— after three years of fighting, might feel betrayed or disappointed at not having a seat — disappointed at not having a seat at _ disappointed at not having a seat at the initial talks in saudi _ seat at the initial talks in saudi arabia? | seat at the initial talks in saudi arabia?— seat at the initial talks in saudi arabia? i think i am reall saudi arabia? ithinki am really disappointed - saudi arabia? ithinki am really disappointed in - saudi arabia? i think i am | really disappointed in what saudi arabia? i think i am - really disappointed in what has happened _ really disappointed in what has happened i_ really disappointed in what has happened. i have— really disappointed in what has happened. i have been- really disappointed in what has. happened. i have been watching this for— happened. i have been watching this for three _ happened. i have been watching this for three years, _ happened. i have been watching this for three years, it _ happened. i have been watching this for three years, it is - happened. i have been watching this for three years, it is a - this for three years, it is a work— this for three years, it is a work that— this for three years, it is a work that would've - this for three years, it is a work that would've neverl work that would've never happened _ work that would've never happened if _ work that would've never happened if i— work that would've never happened if i were - work that would've never. happened if i were president work that would've never - happened if i were president i have — happened if i were president i have been— happened if i were president i have been watching _ happened if i were president i have been watching these - happened if i were president i. have been watching these people being _ have been watching these people being killed — have been watching these people being killed at _ have been watching these people being killed at levels _ have been watching these people being killed at levels that - have been watching these people being killed at levels that you - being killed at levels that you have — being killed at levels that you have rarely— being killed at levels that you have rarely seen, _ being killed at levels that you have rarely seen, not - being killed at levels that you have rarely seen, not even i have rarely seen, not even close. _ have rarely seen, not even close. since _ have rarely seen, not even close, since the _ have rarely seen, not even close, since the second i have rarely seen, not even i close, since the second world war — close, since the second world war and _ close, since the second world war and i'm _ close, since the second world war. and i'm very— close, since the second world i war. and i'm very disappointed. i war. and i'm very disappointed. i hear— war. and i'm very disappointed. i hear there _ war. and i'm very disappointed. i hearthere is— war. and i'm very disappointed. i hear there is upset— war. and i'm very disappointed.
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i hear there is upset about - war. and i'm very disappointed. i hear there is upset about not l i hear there is upset about not having — i hear there is upset about not having a seat _ i hear there is upset about not having a seat. will— i hear there is upset about not having a seat. will they- having a seat. will they have had a seat _ having a seat. will they have had a seat for three - having a seat. will they have had a seat for three years i having a seat. will they have i had a seat for three years and and a — had a seat for three years and and a long time _ had a seat for three years and and a long time before. - had a seat for three years and and a long time before. a - and a long time before. a negotiator— and a long time before. a negotiator could have - and a long time before. a - negotiator could have settled a while ago — negotiator could have settled a while ago without without - while ago without without the loss of any _ while ago without without the loss of any life or— while ago without without the
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loss of any life or on - while ago without without the loss of any life or on either. what would it take for their restrictions on the associated press. — restrictions on the associated press, and with the associated press's— press, and with the associated press's style guide, using language and giving guidance not to— language and giving guidance not to use words like illegal immigrant orto use not to use words like illegal immigrant or to use phrases like — immigrant or to use phrases like gender affirming care, they— like gender affirming care, they are _ like gender affirming care, they are worried about that being — they are worried about that being an _ they are worried about that being an encroachment of liberalism in the way the... share — liberalism in the way the... share those concerns. i do think— share those concerns. i do think some of the phrases they want _ think some of the phrases they want to— think some of the phrases they want to use are ridiculous and ithink— want to use are ridiculous and i think frankly they have become obsolete, especially the last three weeks. because many things— last three weeks. because many things have happened in the last three weeks and i didn't know— last three weeks and i didn't
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know about that, but i would say that _ know about that, but i would say that if they want to use certain— say that if they want to use certain phrases like that, and i certain phrases like that, and i guess— certain phrases like that, and i guess some are ok but many aren't. _ i guess some are ok but many aren't. but — i guess some are ok but many aren't. but the associated press _ aren't. but the associated press just aren't. but the associated pressjust refuses aren't. but the associated press just refuses to go with what — press just refuses to go with what the _ press just refuses to go with what the law is and what is taking place. it's called the gult— taking place. it's called the gulf of— taking place. it's called the gulf of america now, it's not called — gulf of america now, it's not called the _ gulf of america now, it's not called the gulf of mexico any longer — called the gulf of mexico any longer i_ called the gulf of mexico any longer. i have the right to do it. just — longer. i have the right to do it, just like we have the right to do— it, just like we have the right to do mount mckinley and no—one is even _ to do mount mckinley and no—one is even challenging that. but the only— is even challenging that. but the only associated... it's primarily— the only associated... it's primarily the associated press and i— primarily the associated press and i don't know what they're doing — and i don't know what they're doing but— and i don't know what they're doing but ijust say that we're going — doing but ijust say that we're going to — doing but ijust say that we're going to keep them out until such— going to keep them out until such time as they agree that it's the — such time as they agree that it's the gulf of america. we are very— it's the gulf of america. we are very proud of this country and _ are very proud of this country and we — are very proud of this country and we wanted to be the gulf of america — and we wanted to be the gulf of america. this associated press as you — america. this associated press as you know has been very, very wrong _ as you know has been very, very wrong on — as you know has been very, very wrong on the election, on trunk, _ wrong on the election, on trunk, the treatment of trauma, and other— trunk, the treatment of trauma, and other things, trunk, the treatment of trauma, and otherthings, having trunk, the treatment of trauma, and other things, having to do with— and other things, having to do with trumpet and republicans and conservatives. and they are doing _ and conservatives. and they are doing us— and conservatives. and they are doing us no favours and i guess i'm doing us no favours and i guess i'm not— doing us no favours and i guess i'm not doing them any favours, that's— i'm not doing them any favours, that's the — i'm not doing them any favours, that's the way life works but you know, thank you for the question. who are you with? very— question. who are you with? very good _ question. who are you with? very good question. thank you.
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we are — very good question. thank you. we are hearing that rush wants to force ukraine to hold new elections in order to sign any kind of a peace deal, is that something that the us would ever support? we something that the us would ever support?— ever support? we have a situation — ever support? we have a situation where - ever support? we have a situation where we - ever support? we have a situation where we have | ever support? we have a i situation where we have not ever support? we have a - situation where we have not had elections — situation where we have not had elections in _ situation where we have not had elections in ukraine, _ situation where we have not had elections in ukraine, where - situation where we have not had elections in ukraine, where we i elections in ukraine, where we have _ elections in ukraine, where we have martial— elections in ukraine, where we have martial law, _ elections in ukraine, where we have martial law, essentially. have martial law, essentially martial — have martial law, essentially martial law _ have martial law, essentially martial law in _ have martial law, essentially martial law in ukraine. - have martial law, essentiallyl martial law in ukraine. where
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about a massive... you talk about gaza, — a massive... you talk about gaza, it's _ a massive... you talk about gaza, it's literally, - a massive... you talk about gaza, it's literally, the - gaza, it's literally, the cities _ gaza, it's literally, the cities look— gaza, it's literally, the cities look like - gaza, it's literally, the cities look like gaza. l cities look like gaza. actually, _ cities look like gaza. actually, many- cities look like gaza. actually, many have| actually, many have percentage—wise, i actually, many have i percentage—wise, more actually, many have _ percentage—wise, more buildings knocked — percentage—wise, more buildings knocked down _ percentage—wise, more buildings knocked down and _ percentage—wise, more buildings knocked down and then - percentage—wise, more buildings knocked down and then in - percentage—wise, more buildings knocked down and then in gaza. i knocked down and then in gaza. so people — knocked down and then in gaza. so people are _ knocked down and then in gaza. so people are tired _ knocked down and then in gaza. so people are tired of— knocked down and then in gaza. so people are tired of it. - so people are tired of it. people _ so people are tired of it. people want _ so people are tired of it. people want to - so people are tired of it. people want to see - so people are tired of it. - people want to see something happen~ — people want to see something happen. the _ people want to see something happen. the other— people want to see something happen. the other thing - people want to see something happen. the other thing it's i happen. the other thing it's been — happen. the other thing it's been bothering _ happen. the other thing it's been bothering me - happen. the other thing it's been bothering me for- happen. the other thing it's been bothering me for a - happen. the other thing it's. been bothering me for a long time — been bothering me for a long time because _ been bothering me for a long time because i— been bothering me for a long time because i solve - been bothering me for a long time because i solve the - time because i solve the problem _ time because i solve the problem with— time because i solve the problem with nato. - time because i solve the| problem with nato. they time because i solve the - problem with nato. they paid hundreds— problem with nato. they paid hundreds of— problem with nato. they paid hundreds of billions _ problem with nato. they paid hundreds of billions of- problem with nato. they paidj hundreds of billions of dollars into the — hundreds of billions of dollars into the funds _ hundreds of billions of dollars into the funds of _ hundreds of billions of dollars into the funds of nato - hundreds of billions of dollars into the funds of nato when l hundreds of billions of dollars into the funds of nato when i | into the funds of nato when i said — into the funds of nato when i said you _ into the funds of nato when i said you have _ into the funds of nato when i said you have to _ into the funds of nato when i said you have to pay - into the funds of nato when i said you have to pay becausej said you have to pay because the united _ said you have to pay because the united states— said you have to pay because the united states is- said you have to pay because the united states is paying i said you have to pay because. the united states is paying for european _ the united states is paying for european countries _ the united states is paying for european countries and - the united states is paying for european countries and then l european countries and then they— european countries and then they take _ european countries and then they take advantage - european countries and then they take advantage of- european countries and then they take advantage of us i european countries and then|
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they take advantage of us on trade — they take advantage of us on trade but— they take advantage of us on trade but i— they take advantage of us on trade. but i have _ they take advantage of us on trade. but i have seen - trade. but i have seen it. look, _ trade. but i have seen it. look, they— trade. but i have seen it. look, they have - trade. but i have seen it. look, they have to - trade. but i have seen it. look, they have to pay. i trade. but i have seen it. - look, they have to pay. they have — look, they have to pay. they have to — look, they have to pay. they have to find _ look, they have to pay. they have to find out _ look, they have to pay. they have to find out where - look, they have to pay. they have to find out where the i have to find out where the money _ have to find out where the money is _ have to find out where the money is going _ have to find out where the money is going to. - have to find out where the money is going to. i- have to find out where the i money is going to. i believe have to find out where the - money is going to. i believe we have _ money is going to. i believe we have president _ money is going to. i believe we have president zelensky- money is going to. i believe we have president zelensky said i have president zelensky said last week— have president zelensky said last week that _ have president zelensky said last week that does - have president zelensky said last week that does not - have president zelensky said | last week that does not know where — last week that does not know where the _ last week that does not know where the half _ last week that does not know where the half of _ last week that does not know where the half of the - last week that does not know where the half of the moneyl last week that does not know. where the half of the money is where — where the half of the money is where we _ where the half of the money is where we gave _ where the half of the money is where we gave him. _ where the half of the money is where we gave him. we - where the half of the money is where we gave him. we gave i where the half of the money is - where we gave him. we gave them i where we gave him. we gave them i believe _ where we gave him. we gave them i believe $350 _ where we gave him. we gave them i believe $350 billion _ where we gave him. we gave them i believe $350 billion blood - i believe $350 billion blood say something _ i believe $350 billion blood say something less - i believe $350 billion blood say something less than i i believe $350 billion blood i say something less than that, but it's— say something less than that, but it's a _ say something less than that, but it's a lot _ say something less than that, but it's a lot. and _ say something less than that, but it's a lot. and we - say something less than that, but it's a lot. and we have - say something less than that, but it's a lot. and we have toi but it's a lot. and we have to egualise _ but it's a lot. and we have to equalise with— but it's a lot. and we have to equalise with europe - but it's a lot. and we have to| equalise with europe because europe — equalise with europe because europe has— equalise with europe because europe has given _ equalise with europe because europe has given very- equalise with europe because europe has given very much i europe has given very much smaller— europe has given very much smaller percentage - europe has given very much smaller percentage of - europe has given very much smaller percentage of that. j europe has given very muchl smaller percentage of that. i think— smaller percentage of that. i think europe _ smaller percentage of that. i think europe has _ smaller percentage of that. i think europe has given- smaller percentage of that. i. think europe has given hundred billion— think europe has given hundred billion and _ think europe has given hundred billion and we _ think europe has given hundred billion and we have _ think europe has given hundred billion and we have different. billion and we have different let's— billion and we have different let's say— billion and we have different let's say 300 _ billion and we have different let's say 300 plus. - billion and we have different let's say 300 plus. and - billion and we have different let's say 300 plus. and it. billion and we have different let's say 300 plus. and it is| let's say 300 plus. and it is more — let's say 300 plus. and it is more important _ let's say 300 plus. and it is more important for- let's say 300 plus. and it is more important for them i let's say 300 plus. and it is. more important for them than let's say 300 plus. and it is- more important for them than it is for— more important for them than it is for us — more important for them than it is for us we _ more important for them than it is for us. we have _ more important for them than it is for us. we have an— more important for them than it is for us. we have an ocean - is for us. we have an ocean in between — is for us. we have an ocean in between and _ is for us. we have an ocean in between and they— is for us. we have an ocean in between and they don't. - is for us. we have an ocean in between and they don't. but i between and they don't. but where — between and they don't. but where is _ between and they don't. but where is all— between and they don't. but where is all of _ between and they don't. but where is all of the _ between and they don't. but where is all of the money i between and they don't. but. where is all of the money that has been _ where is all of the money that has been given? _ where is all of the money that has been given? where - where is all of the money that has been given? where is-

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