welcome to our uk viewers. we are a press conference norway. 77 “1 flag” 1' e defence [5 alonside stenéing elengsiée his? ~ .,, , . counterpart. stanéing alengsiée his? ~ .,, , . counterpart. we are norwegian counterpart. we are listening in. norwegian counterpart. we are listening in-— norwegian counterpart. we are listening in— listening in. this war began because russia _ listening in. this war began because russia invaded - listening in. this war began because russia invaded the territory of a sovereign state. tergitory of a sovereign state. war is because this war is continuing because ukrainians are fighting tzhgeeukrainians are fighting great courage, military with great courage, military and civilians alike. this war could be ended the if could be ended the day if president putin withdrew his troops from ukraine. we all want to an end to the want to see an end to the fighting and a durable peace. ' qlf ’ w 7 ”that? come through strength. must come through strength. president said president trump said that. president trump said that. president said that. president zelensky said that. ourjob as ministers is to continue to support ukraine in the fight. we have been two 7 ; bfsviji’ng’ '

7 if” ; providing strong 7 nations providing strong military to we military help to ukraine. we will to do that and we will continue to do that and we will continue to do that and we will up our discussions will step up our discussions today about how we do so. and we are ready in the uk to play pa rt fizz—f??? ==zz part if we net 77 part if we net to 77 part if we net toa 77 part if we get to a point 7 a part if we get to a point where the fighting stops and security are security guarantees are required for the long—term. of feature of any the one feature of any ceasefire and any is that mustn't 7 mustn't be 5 mustn't be something that is it. mesh“ lss snmfinifis that. is ”""""""’*"”*’* a-ain it mush“ lss sfimctfiifia that is ' " ' " ' ' again by it mush“ iss sfimctfiifia that is ' " ' " ' ' again by russia broken again by russia re—invading ukraine. broken again by russia re-invading ukraine. after donald trump _ re-invading ukraine. after donald trump said - re-invading ukraine. after donald trump said what i re-invading ukraine. after| donald trump said what he re-invading ukraine. after- donald trump said what he said? —= has never been bi- -er - has never been bigger or. nato has never been bigger or stronger. putin wants to divide nato and europe. three years on from his invasion of ukraine, = -: finland are part of in the last year, the nato. in the last year, the non—us nations of nato

increased spending by increased defence spending by 20%. this we are stepping up security. we european security. we recognised in our discussion week in weekiin n36 w if 77 7 weekiin 515thth earlier this week in nato that we do more, and we will. we must do more, and we will. that isn'tjust we must do more, and we will. that isn't just about we must do more, and we will. that isn'tjust about how much you spend, but how you spend it. nato needs nations it. nato also needs nations like norway and the united ready to set kingdom ready to set new standards as how we work and standards as to how we work and plan and �* together. standards as to how we work and plan and �*together. and if plan and deter together. and if necessary, we will fight together. necessary, we will fight together- _ necessary, we will fight together. thank you very much. this is mainly _ from l healy. another one about john healy. another one about ukraine — john healy. another one about ukraine. trump— john healy. another one about ukraine. trump suggested - ukraine. trump suggested ukraine _ ukraine. trump suggested ukraine started _ ukraine. trump suggested ukraine started the - ukraine. trump suggested ukraine started the war, . ukraine. trump suggested i ukraine started the war, then elsrairts started tits legals ties-“t ”swim,” zelensky as a and since said russia 2 the 1nd since said russia 2 the car since said russia 2 the car when said russia 2 the car when it id russia 2 the car when it comes ia 2 the car when it comes to holds the car when it comes to peace — holds the car when it comes to peace talks _ holds the car when it comes to peace talks -- _ holds the car when it comes to peace talks. —— the _ holds the car when it comes to peace talks. —— the cards. - peace talks. —— the cards. europe's—

peace talks. —— the cards. europe's best _ peace talks. —— the cards. - europe's best - interest europe's best security interest and also are and america's also are satisfied by end this satisfied by an end to this war in ukraine and by strong and in ukraine and by a strong and unified nato. is an unified nato. that is an argument we are having and have discussed with the will continue to make. fits and will continue to make. as far as the recent comments go, president putin holds the cards in the he could end the in the sense he could end the war if he �*troops. he war if he withdrew troops. he invaded ukraine. he could end invaded ukraine; hs estates ens president zelensky, it. president zelensky, on my second day in the job as defence flew to defence secretary, i flew to odesa and spent the day with zelensky, and i saw for myself m's-"9 s-szi ! �*e fs— -ksu~ s —— ——— — of all his commitment to first of all his commitment to his country. this was a man, after all, who told president biden, when putin first biden, when. putinfitsts 7— ,, h i need ammunition, not invaded, i need ammunition, not a taxi. this was a man who stuck in his country and let

still does. he was it, and it still does. he was elected. he is the elected leader of ukraine. he done leader of ukraine. he has done what winston churchill did in in world war ii, britain in world war ii, suspended elections while at war. ourjob is to stand with the ukrainians and support the ukrainiansandsupport and support in their ~ ”and w—s .. . 777 777a7nd7ifthey choose 7 77 777and7 ifthey choose to 7 77 support 7 77 support them 7 support them in talk, support them in negotiations, also. iam talk, support them in negotiations, also. i am a defence minister, i don't defence minister, and i don't want to see is jeopardising the by forgetting 7 77777 by forgetting the 77 by forgetting the war. peace by forgetting the war. can we trust trump to those goals? it fl” , accomplish those goals? it is in the interest _ accomplish those goals? it is in the interest of— accomplish those goals? in the interest of america under president trump that we a 777édurla7bl7e7p7escé, 7 77 7 7 7 77.7; dura7bl7e7p7eace,7as 77 7 7 7 7 777adura7bl7e7p7eace,7ashe 77 77 get a durablspsacs, as hs to deliver. get a durehlepeece, as he to deliver. it in interests of tru m p interests of trump that the the interests of trump that the area is a stable euro atlantic area is a stable and secure and that nato is strong.

and secure and that nato is stront. ., , ., and secure and that nato is stront. ., i. ., strong. how will you handle the absence of— strong. how will you handle the absence of. defence - strong. how will you handle the absence of. defence supportl forward ? going forward? thegeissh an going forward? thegeis: ni _ an absence % going forward? thegeis: ni _ an absence of? going forward? thegegtssgg i _ an absence of us question of an absence of us support. the usa are hard—wired of nato. the us are challenging us, as european to us, as european nations, to do more alongside them. we are, and we will, do more in future. mainly the same but i want 7i want to underline that also, i want to underline that the nuclear capacity is the russian nuclear capacity is threatening the us. we are in the same boat. we are doing this to have a we interests.

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some of the detailed what might be discussions about what might be needed, but i'm certainly not going to give you any detail that make president putin that may make president putin any wiser. fundamentally, the war is still being fought and war is still being feeght and is bombing, war is still being fesght and is bombing, firing launching 777 77 launching 777 not77 on ukrainian troo-s but only on ukrainian troops but also ukrainian cities. the are fighting still, ukrainians are fighting still, and ourjob is them eeg—1 em and to kee- them strong77 strong as strong77 as they can be when as strong as they can be when they to the negotiating they come to the negotiating table. support them on the support them at battlefield, support them at the table when they the negotiating table when they choose to talk. x�*t�*ou the negotiating table when they choose to talk.— choose to talk. you are at the defence minister's _ choose to talk. you are at the l defence minister's - last defence minister's meeting last week. _ defence minister's meeting last week, and he heard the secretary was the secretary was excluding the possibility �*us peacekeeping secretary was excluding the possii: in y �*us peacekeeping secretary was excluding the possii: in ukraine. ieacekeeping secretary was excluding the possii: in ukraine. isicekeeping secretary was excluding the possii: in ukraine. is it akeeping secretary was excluding the possii: in ukraine. is it stillping forces in ukraine. is it still possible _ forces in ukraine. is it still possible to have british forces

possible to hav ; .. i 7 7 the po7ssible to have british forces the ground in ukraine? if on the ground in ukraine? if is american there is no american participation. this there is no american participation. this you are askint participation. this you are asking me _ participation. this you are asking me to _ participation. this you are asking me to jump - participation. this you are asking me to jump ahead | participation. this you are l asking me to jump ahead of we need to o. we need to 0. we in the where we need to go. we in the uk and the important european nations recognise that we will need to play leading part in arrangements if we can any arrangements if we can reach an end to the fighting and some sort of settlement. we are the ones who have, from day one, ben ready to step in and support ukraine in theirfight. sypnort ukraine in their fight. will support them as a country as they forge peaceful country as they forge �* future, peaceful country as they forge �*future, as well. studio: the defence minister alongside his

norwegian counterpart. we go straight from those pictures to bratislava, where you will see mark rutter in the company of the slovakian president, mr pellegrini. he on ally of prime p|7rime minister, 7 p|7rime minister, so7mebody attitude 7 sharing the attitude towards attitude. i will sum up we there. a lot of work a.... 77577 .. ..- .-. 77t£>7$ug7n77 7 77to7alig7n7i7t7 7 77 7to7alig7n7it7d7e7fence 7 77 7to7i7th7ey7t7d7e7fence 7 77 7to7i7they7ha7v7e7ence 7 7 7 77 7to7i7th7ey7hav7e7 signed 77 777 7to7i7th7ey7hav7e7signed an industries. they have signed an ambitious �* partnership with ambitious new partnership with ambitious new partnership with a focus upon protecting the cables, 77 cables, the 77 undersea cables; the and water that infrastructure and water that we know that the russians have been focusing on. marines will been focusing on. marines. will .- . .. . .- .-- .. .. involved injoint training the 77 77 th7e7d7e7fenc7e7 7 the defenc77e 77more and the defence industries more closely integrated. and the defence industries more closelyintegrated. seems closely integrated. it seems like are going from mr like we are goingthere from mr it like we are'goingthere fffi .. rutter. it is wonderfulto be with - here _

rutter. it is wonderfulto be with - here today - seith sari: hers tar-ass in w”” it's asith aau hsrs aas�*sa in " ' it's good asith aau hsrs sassa in " ' it's good to be bratislava. it's good to be back. slovakia been a back. slovakia has been a ally for over 20 years. = -—: 777777ares7t77illthat7 7 7777s; afghan. are still that ally. y7ery you are still that ally. very much involved and committed with nato. you host one the and i visited 7777;7r{d niacin." 77 77 and i visited the troops forces and i visited the troops this morning. very impressive. forces and i visited the troops this presence very impressive. forces and i visited the troops this presence as 'y impressive. forces and i visited the troops this presence as a impressive. forces and i visited the troops this presence as a vital essive. forces and i visited the troops this presence as a vital part re. this presence as a vital part of how we deter this presence as a vital part of how we and deter this presence as a vital part of how we and defend ieter this presence as a vital part of how we and defend ourr this presence as a vital part of how we an slovakia ourr this presence as a vital part of how we an slovakia ol the eastern "a”! “salsa is the ..- .. s s s . ss nation eastern "a”! “salsa is. the ..- —— ....-.. - . — —— nation for eeste'h "a”! “salsa is the ..- .. s s s . ss nation for the framework nation for the headquarters in hungary. that framework nation for the headqur fully in hungary. that framework nation for the headqur fully operational that framework nation for the headqur fully operational lastt became fully operational last hungary and week. alongside hungary and croatia, you have worked hard to this project. to deliver this project. demonstrating we adapting demonstrating we are adapting to new challenges. showcasing how working �* in 88 how working together in 88 bolsters deterrence and defence for us all. over the past week,

for us all; eyersthe east mask ssssssss has for us all; eyersthe east stasis .. ... . has seen an europe has seen an extraordinary level of engagement the new us engagement by the new us administration. at nato et77t777unh_ 7 and7m7unich, and headquarters and munich. and �* in where your headquarters and munich. and �*ir minister where your headquarters and munich. and �*ir minister is where your headquarters and munich. and �*ir minister is today. re your headquarters and munich. and �*ir minister is today. the >ur headquarters and munich, and �*ir minister is today. the us made crystal has fines: erastsl steer its ” to a nato. commitment to a strong nato. this should be in doubt. this comes an that comes withansexpectatiansthat nato allies comes withansexpectationsthat nato allies are all nato allies are contributing their fair share. contributing’their fair share. spending is on an trajectory. last year it upward trajectory. last year it increased by 20% �* europe and slo7vakia s7pends 2% slovakia s7pends 2% gdp canada. slovakia spends 2% gdp of defence and this crucially greater 7 greater threats7will �* investment. 7 7 77�*investment. this need greater investment. this is part of what we discuss today. we note that target, today. we note that the target, the 2014 target of 2% won't the 2014 target of eh won't us safe

the e014 target of eh won't us safe in the years keepus safe in the years allies must invest more. we also discussed the today we also discussed the russian war in ukraine. 11 sussisn tiller in ulsrsins. 1? " ” " ago, russia invaded prime years ago, russia invaded prime crimea. three years ago they ukraine. 77 7 ukraine. they77thoug7ht invaded ukraine. they thought it would be ever in days, but underestimated the putinsunoeresti.n'tateci the and ally resolver. ukrainians and ally resolver. isn'tjust ukrainians and ally resolver. isn't just our ukrainians and ally resolver. isn'tjust our partner. ukrainians and ally resolver. is isn'tjust our partner. ukrainians and ally resolver. is your;n'tjust our partner. ukrainians and ally resolver. is your neighbour. partner. ukrainians and ally resolver. is your neighbour. we tner. ukrainians and ally resolver. is your neighbour. we all r. it is your neighbour. we all want to see an end to the terrible aggression against ukraine. is vital that any ukraine. it is vital that any deal reached brings an endearing piece. this rasher never take another square will never take another square metre of ukrainian land. —— rasher. studio: two press conferences back to back the

back to back underlining the pressure that spending is under to provide european partners... rutte stressing that as far as he's concerned, the united rutte stressing that as far as he's cl has 'ned, the united rutte stressing that as far as he's cl has madezhe united rutte stressing that as far as he's cl has made an united rutte stressing that as far as he's cl has made an ironclad to nato, that has 7 7 has extra l7eve77l there has been an extra level of engagement by those at nato headquarters. he doing the of 77 of nations of nation7s and that in to get more rattling that in to get more money invested in those 7 defence systems. we critical defence systems. we have just been john have just been watching john healey and his norwegian healeyeand—his norwegian his counterpart in 7 talking 7 7 7 talking about 7 7 talking about a joint on defence into partnership on defence into . .. .. . .. and 7777 equipment we interchangeable equipment we will invest in together. let's speak to a former foreign minister of lithuania. former foreign minister of lithuania.

did you like what you are hearing? is that the kind of attitude we will need to see more of in the months ahead? yes. it very much does reflect yes. lt serif nnueh deee reflect w""""""'*”"”"’ mood. i yes. lt assert;r nnueh deee reflect" mood. i understand gyest lt assert;r nnueh deee reflect" mood. i understand that of the thin-s the minister ilii in charge of. maybe thegr is in charge of, maybe they cannot say out loud certain things. therefore, you hear some innuendos. the general somesinnuendos'."the general is the sornesinnuendos'."the general is the one that i direction is the one that i would say i share.- direction is the one that i would say i share. you call it an innuendo. _ would say i share. you call it an innuendo. there - would say i share. you call it| an innuendo. there - been an innuendo; there has been i think today within criticism i think today within the media of the timidity that europeans have shown in pushing against trump. john healy back against trump. john healy was about whether they was asked about whether they have given enough support to would you like a more zelensky. would you like a more forceful response from european leaders? i forceful response from european leaders? ., �* ~' leaders? i don't think... i don't have _ leaders? i don't think... i don't have a _ leaders? i don't think... i don't have a position - leaders? i don't think... i don't have a position thatj leaders? i don't think... i. don't have a position that we 77 77 lorain; 7 7 7 77 77 learning an” 7 be fighting word for should be fighting wordsfor ss .. .. s .

with trump or his team. word with trump or his team. whenever somebody is insulted or when 7s77 is thrown or when a gauntlet is thrown down, i don't there is a down, i don't think there is a need for... we, at least for a need for: ll see at least for a being, how need for: ll use at least for a being, how to for time being, how to prepare for fight alone, as the 7 7 unfortunately, it ukrainians. unfortunately, it look and that does look more and more that putin's goals and goals of does look more and more that putin's gc trump goals of does look more and more that putin's gc trump are goals of does look more and more that putin's gc trump are aligned. i president trump are aligned. i appreciate what you are saying, but it is surely upon but it is surely incumbent upon allies, the president is allies; whenthespresident is or blaming ukraine for saying or blaming ukraine for the war, or is it saying president zelensky is a �*all 7 �*all the 7 �* all the cards �*all the cards are in dictator all the cards are in the hands of the russians, it is incumbent on surely it is incumbent on allies to point out to him that he is wrong and is misinformed. he is'wrong and is’misinforr’ned. only he is up mints of the kremlin. i fully agree with ou. i kremlin. i fully agree with yon l have _ kremlin. i fully agree with you. i have said _ kremlin. i fully agree with you. i have said that. - kremlin. i fully agree with you. i have said that. he i kremlin. i fully agree with . you. i have said that. he isn't president roosevelt's

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