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to see an end to the war, and says the kremlin "has the cards" in peace talks. they have taken a lot of territory, so they have the cards. work begins to identify the bodies of four israeli hostages release by hamas, they are believed to include a mother and her two young children. of kissing playerjenni hermoso �*without consent�*. he intends to appeal. hello, i'm geeta guru—murthy. meeting with him in kyiv, has been cancelled. it came at the request
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of the us. from president trump, who described the ukrainian to take place in the country. our correspondent abdujalil abdurasulov is in kyiv and explained how ukraine is responding to the comments president trump has made about mr zelensky. it could be a good thing for ukraine as because it ukraing'gs bgitg'bgcggsg it; ' the escalation of this prevents the escalation of this war of words between the two leaders. zelensky and donald i am sure that askin journalists would be asking . questions and challenging tough questions and challenging general the general kellogg about the claims by donald latest claims made by donald trump. this, perhaps to“? nth") thf behao' —— , , , , . ~ —— , and the usa can avoid ukraine and the usa can avoid this �* , ukraine and the usa can avoid this ~ , . ., , this escalation. and this comes on the back _ this escalation. and this comes on the back of _ this escalation. and this comes on the back of a _ this escalation. and this comes on the back of a very _ this escalation. and this comes on the back of a very - a | on the back of a very fraught a few days. remind us what has been sagd where political been said and where political reaction is in at the
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reaction is in ukraine at the moment. reaction is in ukraine at the moment-— reaction is in ukraine at the moment. ., reaction is in ukraine at the moment. . ., claims made few claims made by donald trump. initially said was the one who started war. he £22151; 2.55.22. the; ”1; 3�*“ ;%.::=-%;zé—7 v7 v77 v v7 vv v7 war. he also said ”zelensky was : ”zelensky was a president zelensky was a dictator who refuses to hold elections. these allegations caused huge fury here in elections. these allegations caused h people' here in elections. these allegations caused h people were in elections. these allegations caused h people were outraged ukraine. people were outraged by these of course, by these statements. of course, the invasion was the russian invasion was unprovoked. russian dnbrovoked. the bdasian. v vv v raised in ehbreveked; the beeeieh v vv v raised in our cities military raieed in. eer eitiee v77v7vv7vvv77vv7v here to the ground. they say that were that those claims were russia for its rewarding russia for its aggression instead of punishing aggreeeieh instead ef behiehihg for did. them for what they did. many ukrainians worry the rift
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ukrainians worry that the rift the leaders is not a good thing for certainly not a good thing for and they cannot afford ukraine and they cannot afford to lose us assistance. they hope that the dialogue between the two countries will get back track that they on track and that they can convince the usa to continue their military support. [30 convince the usa to continue their military support.- their military support. do we whether their military support. pm - whether the _ their military support. pm - whether the mineral i know whether the mineral elements that are ukraine elements that are in ukraine and in their territory is still of the us wants to something of the us wants to negotiate about? and that zelensky would consider? we had some reference to that report some reference to that report some of the news agencies with some of the news agencies today. with some of the news agencies toda . ., , with some of the news agencies toda . . , , the deal. m of the deal. president zelensky earlier refused to sign the of the deal. president zelensky earlier rt saidd to sign the of the deal. president zelensky earlier rt said it :o sign the of the deal. president zelensky earlier rt said it wasn't the of the deal. president zelensky earlier rt said it wasn't ready. deal. he said it wasn't ready. ukraine says it isn't that they ukraine ease it. ieh'tthetfhee” ’ ”” ”"' want to sign they don't want to sign it, they just to finalise the
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just need to finalise the document. because there are certain details that should be clarified. and i think that this is the position of wasn't talking to an 7 economist and expert on in critical minerals here in ukraine. i asked them what they think about this, if it think, abeet this.e if it is. .......a....,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, for ukraine, thihkabeet this.e if it is. v , ,. , ~ , , . for ukraine, and beneficial for ukraine, and they beneficialfor ukraine, and they all that they all said that overall, from a business point of view, if the americans invest in this then of course, ukraine will thenrofceuree, ukraine will it thenrofrceureer, ukraine will it is thenrofrcedreer, ukraine will it is definitely a benefit. it is definitely a good thing. there is also the political side. zelensky was no point on political side. zelensky guarantee as no point on political side. zelensky guarantee is no point on political side. zelensky guarantee is included on 24’s: "ii’ie'éeiif 7 "ii’ie'éeiifa’na'" ’ ”theideialjaindthat 77the 75531, a7nd7that w57s777 7 7 7 7the 75531, a7nd7that wa7s77why in the deal; and that was why refused to sign. he wants in the deal; and that was why refus guarantees -ie wants in the deal; and that was why refus guarantees in wants in the deal; and that was why refus guarantees in this ts seserity gearantees in this v 7 7 "77 vv v v and seserity gearantees in this v 7 7 vv777 v v v7 and the air �* rare earth deal and the air of rare earth minerals to be secured for the united states.
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the white house national security foundation gave an 7 �*7for 7 �*7for fox 7 �*7for fox news about interview for fox news about the and said that the ukrainians and said that they to tone it down and they need to tone it down and take a hard look and sign the deal. he was talking about the earth mineral deal, a rare earth mineral deal, a critical minerals deal with washington that they have currently not agreed. he said he felt us differences with he felt us differences wlihvv v v could be he felt us differences wiihvv v v could be reconciled. ukraine could be reconciled. that came from walt�*s in a are hoping to speak to two we are hoping to speak to two guests from usa in the next �*moments for 7 �*moments for their thoughts few moments for their thoughts on the us and ukraine relations, and the whole effort with putin. us move on now and us move on now and look at let us move on now and look at our other story today. is under way in israel to israeli hostages identify four israeli hostages, ,,, as part of a ceasefire
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israeli hostages returned by hamas as part of the gaza ceasefire deal. and her two children, as well as oded lifschitz, in a choreographed ceremony in khan younis. the moment that the whole of israel was bracing itself for as the coffins for the four hostages were for the first it was another stage—managed event in the red cross took of the caskets. they called for privacy and israeli authorities won't formally make the identification until that is complete. it is believed they are shiri bibas and her two young children, ariel and kfir. the fourth was lifted by hamas as oded lifshitz with family in the uk.
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a retired journalist and peace the pictures of a terrified shiri bibas being captured by gunmen as she tried to protect her children have seared themselves into the consciousness of israelis. we know exactly where they are. hamas took them... of israelis calling for the release of all of the hostages by all of the power of their government. israel is in mourning as it faces the near certainty that the children and their
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the former president of the spanish football were celebrating winning the women's world cup in 2023. our correspondent guy hedgecoe is in madrid and explained more we heard that highly anticipated verdict luis rubiales has been found guilty of sexual assault. $12,000. he must stay away from with that for at least a year. however, he was cleared of the charge of coercion.
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in the federation were charged with allegedly trying to forcejenni hermoso to change her story and say as you mentioned, luis rubiales has said he is going to appeal against this verdict. the equality minister in the government welcomed this ruling. that is assault. there is impunity for people like mr rubiales.
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after an eventful few days with president the president trump describing the leader as a �*and leader as a dictator and provoking a reaction in and perplexed reaction in ukraine and in well, us us bring 7 us bring in 7 us bring in some guests let us bring in some guests paul d'anieri is a professor of science the political science at the university of california riverside. and our second guest also 3715; sane} 7 7 7 also 7 stephen moore. 7 is also here. stephen moore. today we saw a press conference scheduled between keith kellogg gcjheduled between keith kellogg, president zelensky. it was and president zelensky. it was cancelled at the minute. cancelled at the last minute. does that us, if what does that tell us, if anything, i what does that tell us, if anything. _ what does that tell us, if an hinu , ., anything, today? “l“? 77 strate: anything, today? “mph-2 - strategy trump 77 anything, today? “mph-2 - strategy trump is overall strategy trump is to pursue is to bring as trying to pursue is to bring as quickly and as expeditiously as possible an end to this war in
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quickly and as expeditiously as possible trump to this war in quickly and as expeditiously as possible trump is this war in quickly and as expeditiously as possible trump is tired war in quickly and as expeditiously as possible trump is tired ofr in quickly and as expeditiously as possible trump is tired of the ukraine. trump is tired of the destruction, of the loss of lives, and so this is a piece he is on. this he is mission he is on. this he is going to... the... i going to... with the... i think he is also going to try to get the ukrainians to agree to some of a ceasefire -e of kind of a ceasefire type of arrangement, where we can have arrangement, where we can have a resolution for va permanent reseletie'n fer 77,77 both a permanent reseletien fer” v vv v vv v both will a permanent reselptian fer” v vv v vv v both will have to ashlas bath aidea'wilthase’ ta" v' v' trump tshlas bath aidea'wilthase’ ta" v' v' trump understands russia give; trump dnderata ndsv russia the give; trump dndersta ndsv russia the aggressor give; trump understands russia the aggressor and give; trumpu�*nderstands russia the aggressor and that give; trumpu�*nderstands russia the ag putin )r and that give; trumpu�*nderstands russia the ag putin is and that give; trumpu�*nderstands russia the ag putin is a |d that give; trumpu�*nderstands russia the ag putin is a |d ti actor, vladimir putin is a bad actor, no question about but this war has to stop. and —: it doesn't, the usa 77it7d7oesn�*t,7the7usa will 7 77 77 iiilllleing likraine. both stop funding ukraine. both ukraine russia have a real ngainegand russiabave a real to bring the killing incentive to bring the killing an end. incentiveto br'n .~ .' '., an end. v incentiveto br'n .~ .' '., anend. v , , incentiveto br'n .~ .' '., anend. , incentiveto br'n .~ .' '., atrum-v , , incentive to bring the killing a trump understands =ou incentive to bring the killing
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a trump understands putin said trump understands putin isn't a actor. why did he a turn zelensky a dictator? you alwa s turn zelensky a dictator? you always have _ turn zelensky a dictator? you always have to _ turn zelensky a dictator? you always have to think - turn zelensky a dictator? you always have to think of - turn zelensky a dictator? 7m. always have to think of the turn zelensky a dictator? 7m. always picture » think of the turn zelensky a dictator? 7m. always picture with k of the turn zelensky a dictator? 7m. always picture with trump. he one of the greatest one of th i greatest one of th i have est one of th i have ever in negotiators i have ever met in my professional career. my prefessienal careers let’s 7vvvv vv77vv777777v the my prefessienal careers let’svvvv vv v vv v v vv v v the other country remembertha other country in background remembertne other country in background is lurking in the background is china clearly the china. china is clearly the enemy of usa. at 27; end 7 7777 enemy of the usa. at the end of the trump wants to ensure the day,.irumpwantsfto ensure don't have a china— russia 7 _-7 reasons he is negotiating with russia at the moment. don't want a: the we don't want to see the we don't want to see the we had in the cold situation we had in the cold war. i situation we had in the cold war. , , ., . , f, war. i will bring up a clip of trump any _ war. i will bring up a clip of trump any moment. - war. i will bring up a clip of trump any moment. paul. trump any moment. paul d'anieri, is ukraine perhaps taking to literally what 7 7 trump 7 7 7 trump said7 7 7 trump said without president trump said without looking at his longer strategic we heard from mike walt�*s
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a fox interview today, the in a fox interview today, the national security adviser to the saying he believed us the usa, saying he believed us differences with ukraine could be dealt but they be dealt with but they needed to sign the rare earth deal. nay it is hard to know. it is hard to know how to interpret what donald trump says and what of his advisers say. 277777777753), say things that are7, let's theysaythings that are. let's untrue, it is hard to say untrue, it is hard to know if there is some kind of wily genius behind or whether are 7 arejust 77 are just saying things they are just saying things that are untrue. and so, i don't think we know what the is, or where it may be strategy is, or where it may be headed. mr moore gave an on it7 on itwhich | is valid 7is7valid grid 7 is valid and accurate. but hope is valid and accurate. but how this is being read in kyiv is that it is caught between two powerful countries, both in to what they7 to what they can. a trying to get what they can. a in of the
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ss, ,.;°f,,s ., .s ,s, ss,, of raw materials. in terms of raw materials. a tough position �*them to be tough position for them to be i want to play a brief studio: i want to play a brief of donald trump speaking clip of donald trump speaking at a press conference a few at a press cenference a fe'flvv v v vv vv ago. he said there was no at a press cenference a fe'flvv v v vv vv for. he said there was no at a press cenference a fe'flvv v v vv vv for nucleard there was no at a press cenference a fe'flvv v v vv vv for nucleard there we he 3 need for nuclear weapons. he wanted to bring global numbers he about chi7na. china. we ch|nawew|lltake 7 chi};.7q}é7§ri717t7;17e7;777 77 china.7ia7le7wil7l7tak7e7a7quick and ehina;vwewittvtake = - -' listen. when we left, there was no middle _ listen. when we left, there was no middle east _ listen. when we left, there was no middle east problem, - listen. when we left, there was no middle east problem, no - listen. when we left, there was no middle ea in problem, no - listen. when we left, there was no middle ea in ukraine. no - listen. when we left, there was no middle ea in ukraine. putin l russia going in ukraine. putin - would _ russia going in ukraine. putin - would have _ russia going in ukraine. putin - would have done - russia going in ukraine. putin - would have done it. - russia going in ukraine. putin - would have done it. i. never would have done it. i came — never would have done it. i came back, _ never would have done it. i came back, and _ never would have done it. i came back, and the - never would have done it. i came back, and the whole i never would have done it. i- came back, and the whole world up. so. when are is blowing up. so, when we straightened _ is blowing up. so, when we straightened it— is blowing up. so, when we straightened it out, - is blowing up. so, when we straightened it out, i- is blowing up. so, when we straightened it out, i wantl is blowing up. so, when we i straightened it out, i want to have — straightened it out, i want to have - of— straightened it out, i want to have - of the _ straightened it out, i want to have - of the first - straightened it out, i want toi have - of the first meetings have one of the first meetings with_ have one of the first meetings with- xi _ have one of the first meetings with- xi -and i with president xi jinping and president _ with president xi jinping and president putin— with president xi jinping and president putin of— with president xi jinping and president putin of russia, i with president xi jinping and i president putin of russia, and iwant — president putin of russia, and iwant to— president putin of russia, and iwant to say: _ president putin of russia, and i want to say: let's _ president putin of russia, and i want to say: let's cap - president putin of russia, and i want to say: let's cap our- lifl military budget in half. and we can do— military budget in half. and we can do that _ military budget in half. and we can do that. and _ military budget in half. and we can do that. and i— military budget in half. and we can do that. and i think- military budget in half. and we can do that. and i think we - 7777-77777777777777777 77777—7777 7777—7 77 77 7777—7 77 7 will be able to do it. stephen moore, former _ will be able to do it. stephen moore, former economic - moore, former economic adviser to trump, do think
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to donald trump, do you think wants to do deal quickly president putin isa is a huge cost to ukraine with european and relationships with european in to them allies in order ta bring the" from �* alliance allies in order ta bring the" from �*alliance with away erem their alliance with is he away fem their alliance with is he trying to do china? is he trying to do a grand deal with both countries? i think there is a lot of i think that there is a lot of fatigue in usa for the tens billions of dollars we spent ukraine. we see any people are 7 people are still resolution. people are still dying. it is a war. 2—2—— 7 77will probably have to they will probably have to redraw the lines in a way both countries can live with. but i love this idea donald countries can live with. but i love ti spoke donald countries can live with. but i love ti spoke about. ynald countries can live with. but i love ti spoke about. i |ald countries can live with. but i love ti spoke about. i think “um? sefies élfifi�*fi i hilfié should applaud the everybody should applaud the idea that if we all had a and reduce �*military think of think oii inhat think oii what that 7 7 dofor 7 7777730 to} 7w707rid7 7 7 7 doforworld prosperity. would do for world prosperity. you are talking trillions 77657115577 7 7777 77 ”assig’w'aaavvv 7 77 dollars wasted on tanks 7 765711; rgysgfeaéfi as. and of dollars wasted on tanksvandvvvv . f. s f ,. that could of dollars wasted on tankseandeeee w f. ,, f ,. that could be to missiles that could be used to develop the next generation of and move people out
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technology and move people out of poverty. it is incredibly of paeerty. it is incredibly” "" agenda, but if trump pull it off i think he could pull it off i think he would nobel peace prize. weuld the mabel peace prise. vvveeewweeeweeew naive? weuld the mabel peace prise. vvveeewweeeweeew wauld the mabel peacevpriaee vv v v v vv v vv naive? if the us gives away it naive? if the us gives away much to russia, doesn't it a green for any give a green light for any future that is the future action? that is what the european sphere.— future action? that is what the eui’oj a in sphere.— future action? that is what the eui’oj a policy ere.— future action? that is what the eui’oj a policy of _ future action? that is what the euro a policy of realism; future action? that is what the euro a policy of realism must fear. a policy of realism must begin— fear. a policy of realism must begin with reality. the says 177 says7that president says that there was no problem with and when e-= 2-- ukraine when he came into office — ukraine when he came into office in— ukraine when he came into office in the first that office in the first time, that is factually untrue. russia - invaded _ is factually untrue. russia invaded ukraine in in crimea :—= ukraine. it is eastern ukraine. it is important to recognise basic facts — important to recognise basic facts like that. question, intsrsstins ausstian; and s, vvvvv people i intsrssting dusstians and _ people i think intsrssting dusstians and _ people i think can reasonable people i think can disagree, reasonable in many circumstances question in many circumstances in history— question in many circumstances in history is is it eh ta give an aggressive patter 7 vv7 777 v vv it is askin- for as a way ending or reducing of ending or reducing conflict? when — of ending or reducing conflict? when is — of ending or reducing conflict? when is it— of ending or reducing conflict? when is it to confront to discoura-e
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to discoura -e them to discoura-e them from them to discourage them from - further~ _ them to discourage them from - further~ i— them to discourage them from further. i think that gaing quthsfe i thin; . va going furthar. itnini . a can disagree. reasonable people can disagree. ithink— reasonable people can disagree. i think that the track record for giving in to the aggression far giving irr�*fitheaggresarcrrr lifi far giving irrtathe aggrassian aggressive isn't in terms of éin terms of future 3 sssesssssssmwessssfl security. i think that is what the ukrainians are worried about _ the ukrainians are worried about. the ukrainians made pretty clear that they understand are not going understand they are not going to get— understand they are not going to get on— understand they are not going to get on the territory back. what — to get on the territory back. what they want in for a what they want intetucnioaas - m— what they want in, return for a surrender of territory is ma'or surrender of territory is i assurance major surrender of territory is assurance that we won't be an assurancevvthatie wo '. this an assurancethatwe won'tbe - m— an assurancethatwe won'tbe - this again in _ an assurancethatwe won't be this again in a few there was a ceasefire years. there was a ceasefire after — years. there was a ceasefire after 2014 which the russians violated in 2022. the m tibial“ m think it is an honest and realistic— think it is an honest and realistic concern, that realistic concern, is that the russians_ realistic concern, is that the russians will pocket what they - given _ russians will pocket what they given and, again. as and may be appeasin- theyshave. andraaysbesappeasi will theyhave. aridniaysbesappeasingr - will satisfy theyhave. andmaysbesappeasing will satisfy russia to the point where that isn't going _ the point where that isn't going to be the but that going to be theecase. . .-. to going to be thecasebutathat -w_ going to be thecasebutathat -m_ going to be thecasebutathat - to me to be _ going to be theecase. but that to me to be pretty seems to me to be pretty hopeful— seems to me to be pretty hopeful interpretation of things. stephen moore, what is our things. stephen moore, what is your understanding _ things. stephen moore, what is your understanding of- things. stephen moore, what is your understanding of what - your understanding of what trump's strategy is? is
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trump's china strategy is? is it to try to bring women? to try to take aua fears around trytotake away fears around, is it a my trytotake away fears around, up 5 it a my trytotake away fears around, up 5 i them? my stostake awa fearsaround um , i stostake awa fearsaround family up to them? first of all, family up to them? first of all. - with _ family up to them? first of all, - with what - family up to them? first of all, - with what you | family up to them? first of i all, - with what you are 3-2 77about. there 7 77about. there is7 a risk {albifié 5535? ”3st is a fish this talsina abfi�*af ”3st is a fie�*fif, this strategy. talsina ssfi�*af ”3st is a fiss this strategy. if you sawing ssfi�*af ”3st is a fiss this strategy. if you give land to 77 7 land to r7ussia7, 7 land to r7ussia7, th7en what 7 them from 7 ”“1h'aa’fisrab’ei’ng 7 7 7 7 prevents them from being aggressive i think that isa is a real danger 7777is7:a7r7ea7l7dang7e7r7to 7 7 7777is7:a7r7ea7l7dahg7e7r7to the 7 that is a real danger to the process. but i think... yes, it is true that was a 2014 is true that there was a 2014 invasion, but trump was on the then. it is true that president then. it is true that we didn't these attacks we didn't have these attacks and walls when was and teta“: when trump was s;......s v .s it and walls when trump was v v v" it was and walls when trump was v v vv v v" it was when biden president it waswnensidsn s...s in. president; it waswnensfdsn ' f ' " ' in. one of the things came in. one of the things did was enable the war on biden did was enable the war on ukraine by reducing �*energy ukraine by reducing oureenergy gave more capabilities. that gave more power to russia. i think trump using american power to try is using american power to try to make the world a safer place will and a more peaceful zw: 7we7w7i7l71 we will see 7 swings}? 7 wswi7l7ls7es7if7h7e777 7 néwiii ses7if7 h7e7c7an
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