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hello, i'm annita mcveigh, and welcome to verifed live. them with their "bare hands", then committing horrific netanyahu of abandoning them. activist oded lifshitz — were returned the body of the boys�* mother, shiri bibas, was supposed to have been returned, too, but israel says the coffin mr netanyahu said it was an "evil" violation of the ceasefire agreement.
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will release on saturday. and avera mengisto . a decade ago and have been held there since. hamas says israel will release 602 prisoners. where he spole about ariel and kfir bibas. following a forensic examination, we can confirm aged just ten months old, that aged just ten months old. , his older that aged just ten months old. . his older brother aerial, and his older brother aerial, aged four, were both brutally murdered by
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aged four, were both brutally terrorists while murdered by terrorists while held hostage in no being held hostage in gaza. no later than �* 2023. being held hostage in gaza. no later than �*2023. these later than november 2023. these two innocent were two indecent children. were hostage with iqkq” hostage together with �* mother, shiri iqkq” hostage together with �*mother, shiri bibas, iqkq” hostage together with �* mother, shiri bibas, from their mother, shiri bibas, from their mother, shiri bibas, from their home on to seven, their home on october to seven, 2023. they not in an airstrike. in an air strike. they killed in an air strike. they were murdered by terrorists in cold the terrorists did shoot 7 j shoot the two young boys. not shoot the two young boys. they killed them with their bare hands. what i think you're seeing, really is the grief of of the 7th of october, turning within hours prime minister benjamin
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netanyahu described hamas once a cruel and evil violation of the ceasefire deal so an extremely distressing situation, of course, for yarden bibas, shiri's father, the husband, the father of the two little boys. as he awaits more news about the fate of his wife, who are insistent that he stick with the ceasefire agreement to bring the remaining hostages back. prioritised the survival of his own government over that is now being expressed
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to particularly even happened in the last 2a hours, you are still seeing a lot of comments from families of the hostages saying we do not want this to jeopardise the progression of the ceasefire deal, that they want the israeli fire talks is fragile and i think only thrown into furtherjeopardy by what has happened it reported that benjamin netenyahu has ordered bgegnjamin netenyahu has ordered military raids in the more military raids in the west bank, according to that is bank, according to afp. that is what mark was just reflecting, the situation in the region ’ ifiifragilew w fragile as 77 1555} l} phase 15553 l} phase one 7 the ceasefire. w?” 7” 7 the ceasefire. more???” 7” 7 the ceasefire. more hostages of the ceasefire. more hostages. .- -----. -. . .. s to released of the ceasefire. more hostages .- -----. c. . .. s to released and lots
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due to be released and lots of over phase two of questions over phase two of that ceasefire. arab leaders are meeting today to come up with a plan for the future of gaza. its more than two million inhabitants, as it is "of the middle east. 0ur correspondent sally nabil told us more about what we can expect from the discussions. it's egypt, jordan and a number of gulf countries, including in the ceasefire deal along with the us. and i believe, or as far as we know, that the main as kind of a reply to the suggestion made
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with a counter—proposal that is based mainly on allowing the people of gaza to stay in their own land. so it's the possibility of going ahead with redeveloping gaza without the need to relocate the people. into egypt, intojordan, and that was totally rejected by both cairo and amman. so today they will be discussing a counter proposal whether or not it will be adopted, it remains to be seen, but we have also to note that the reconstruction process of gaza, it is widely believed that the gulf countries, the oil—rich kingdoms, will have the lion's share in funding all of that. because it's believed to cost billions of
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"for the people of gaza, lift off the debris, "and then we can start the reconstruction process". reporting in the middle east as it happens. the us secretary of state marco rubio says the war in ukraine. meanwhile, the us is continuing to put pressure on ukraine to agree to a deal that would give it access to some keith kellogg, said he'd had "positive" talks with 0ur correspondent
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offered — i think he eventually will get to that point, and i hope so, very quickly. sir keir starmer said this week he was prepared to deploy troops to ukraine if a peace deal could be reached. could have here at home. ally, the united states, now supporting russia, including the united kingdom. country a top priority.
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european leaders continue to offer support to ukraine, the action conference in maryland, celebrating yesterday first celebrating yesterday the first month office of donald this is the m; mutt; this is the white house trump. this is the white house national security adviser. yesterday he told president to turn down in his
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aalafiatcg ta tum it $135 !fi 1; comments. posing peace in eumpe. _ comments. posing peace in eumpe. the _ comments. posing peace in europe, the same - comments. posing peace in europe, the same leaders, | comments. posing peace in i europe, the same leaders, we now open we are z:- z_ with our hosts the sitting down with our hosts the to the saudis, talking to the understanding what ayare’going are going to 77 are going to need 77 are going to need and they are going to need and what the understanding what the ukrainians are going to 7 -7 to all of7 talking to all of the europeans, you can't end a war you don't talk to both sides and that is what you're doing. it is kind of common sense. sense but 7 sense but you do 7 7 7 sense but you7do find is common sense but you do find those _ is common sense but you do find those in — is common sense but you do find those in the media and the critics— those in the media and the critics basically saying how can you _ critics basically saying how can you all be the this is insane. thai;r russians? this is insane. they criticise — russians? this is insane. they criticise the _ russians? this is insane. they criticise the efforts the administration is doing and with— administration is doing and with that being said president donald — with that being said president donald trump has expressed his
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= -7= with president frustration with president zelensky trying to get to the point — zelensky trying to get to the point we are doing how can point we are doing withhow - -et point we are doing withhow can i_ point we are doing withhow can iget-f— point we are doing withhow can - get a on the we get a deal en thematic "w'w’w'wfl . the united states has mineralsgthertlnited— st. . - . over minerals; the—united stateehas - m given over $175 billion to the ukrainians, it seems like the _ there _ ukrainians, it seems like the _ there is - ukrainians, it seems like the there is that war americans, there is that war fatigue. _ americans, there is that war fatigue. it _ americans, there is that war fatigue, it is time to move fatigde. it is: time te mete fffr how are we --oin to forward. how are we going to -et forward. how are we going to get president zelensky to cooperate? so first, and this is the part — cooperate? so first, and this is the part the _ cooperate? so first, and this is the part the media - cooperate? so first, and this. is the part the media - to is the part the media wants to ignore, it president ignore, it is president zelensky last september as part of his victory plan it was he who proposed works go into a partnership if the partnership together. if the united states will invest in us, we have all of us, we have aluminium, all of these rare earth the these rare earth minerals the economy needs, a lot of modern economy needs. a lot of not fully developed, them are not fdlly developed. need investment, them are not folly developed. need investment, president they need investment, president trump a deal—maker, now he they need investment, president trump to eal—maker, now he they need investment, president trump to eal— in ker, now he
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proposes to deal in doubt treasury secretary was out treasury secretary was sent out to kyiv to propose it. and then in the media we get this. in the media we get all this. here is the bottom line, will sign ”1177777 =77 = _77 you and you will 7 you and you will see 77 that you and you will see that in the very short term. applause is good for what that is good for ukraine, what �* could you have than to an economic partnership with be an economic partnership with the united states?— the united states? what better to sto the united states? what better to step the _ the united states? what better to stop the killing? _ the united states? what better to stop the killing? and - the united states? what better to stop the killing? and we - to stop the—killing? and we an obligation to you all, 77 taxpaye7r, 77 taxpayer, to =— : 7—7s7 7—7e7 recoup the hundreds of billions of dollars that have been of dollars. that have been in this war because “vested“ fl“? is?“ benaeee know what you know what europe's contributions in the form contributions are? in the form of loans and often paid back on the by the interest the interestby the interest russian assets that have on russian assets that have been frozen europe gets paid been frozen so europe gets paid back but people baf" bet the amecan bees'e . . ~ ~ ~ . ~ ~ i don't back bet the a"hera" becs'e . . ~ ~ ~ . ~ ~ i don't think baf" bet the amecan bees'e . . ~ ~ ~ . ~ ~ i don't think so. that dan't? ! dah't think. ea. that— —e—n——~e~——— ~— the m dan't? ldah't think. ea. thatr— . . ~ . the we are putting in is the deal we are putting in place is good for place that is good for everyone. yes, you have to talk everyone. yes. you have to talk. . . the russian side to
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ta the'téaeeiah aide ta how going to understand how we're going to get both sides is what we're doin , is what we're doin . , this that is what we're doing, this is a common—sense presidency of he going to end the peace, he is going to end the war in europe, is going to end wa i’s wars in the warsin the 77 7east. wars in the 77 7east. it war: to the 77 7east. it war: to reinves7t 7east. it war: to reinves7t the east. it war: to reinves7t the united is going to reinvest the united states, our leadership in our own hemisphere the arctic own hemisphere fromthe'arctic border to panama to our to the border to panama to our good friends in argentina like you saw yesterday. by the end of all we will have the of this all we will have the nobel peace prize sitting next the 77 the name 7 the name of 7 the name of j7trump. to the name of donald] trump. who opposes peace? how can the democrats oppose please? its, democrats oppose please? a great question, who 77-777 77—77 you have seen 7 you have seen7he 7= leaders under edrepean leaders under. weed...” macron tryin- edrapean leaders under— _ macron trying to edrapean leaders under— _ macro together) edrapean leaders under— _ macro together in with the russian dealing with the russian - and _ dealing with the russian and ukraine situation and ukraine situation, they haven't been able — situation, they haven't been able to— situation, they haven't been able to move ball forward. able to move the ball forward. how— able to move the ball forward. how can— able to move the ball forward. how can we bring our european
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on how can we bring our european - on board? _ how can we bring our european - on board?— leaders on board? the other narrative _ leaders on board? the other narrative you _ leaders on board? the other narrative you have _ leaders on board? the other narrative you have in - leaders on board? the other narrative you have in the - leaders on board? the other i narrative you have in the media is that we are not consulting narrative you have in the media that we are not consulting oui’ our allies in is that we are not consulting with our allies in europe, with our allies in europe, president talks to macron president trump talks to macron with our allies in europe, twice last week, he is coming presi last talks to macron with our allies in europe, presi last he ks to macron with our allies in europe, presi last he is to macron with our allies in europe, presi last he is coming �*on twice last week, he is coming the prime of monday. the prime minister of monday. the prime minister of britain is coming next britain is coming next thursday. we are engaging all thursday. we are engaging all over with our european allies, over with our european allies, the secretary general and i of the general and i of the secretary general and i of nato just spoke. you nato just spoke. you the secretary general and i of natojust spoke. you establish peace through strength and we the secretary general and i of natojust spoke. you establish peace through strength and we have been demanding that the been demanding that europeans step up and 7 7 step m1 contribute to their defence and europeans step up and defence as of now third of our nato of now third of our nato as of now third of our nato allies still not contributing allies still not contributing the minimum, is 2% of the minimum, which is 2% of the minimum, which is 2% of �*gdp, that they the minimum, which is 2% of their gdp, that they committed �* gdp, that they committed their gdp, that they committed to a year ago, i ten to a year ago, i am sorry, ten years ago. that is unacceptable years ago. that is unacceptable and if the europeans want to and if the europeans want to take a bigger role in their own take a bigger role in their own security, that falls in line security, falls in line
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security, that falls in line with america first principles with america first principles as far as i and president trump are concerned so he has rattled the cage a bit. and now they are saying suddenly they found more and are coming to the table with more, fine with us, we have been asking for a table with more, fine with us, we have me n asking for a table with more, fine with us, we hav-ing for a - table with more, fine with us, we hav.~ ., ~ , ., table with more, fine with us, we hav.~ ., ~ ., ~ decade. we have ambassador mark wall with us... — decade. we have ambassador mark wall with us... that _ decade. we have ambassador mark wall with us... that is _ decade. we have ambassador mark wall with us... that is the - wall with us... that is the national _ wall with us... that is the national security - wall with us... that is the national security adviser i national security adviser walls. he told president zelensky to tone down his criticism of what he calls the president of peace, donald trump, you can enter war without talking to both sides, thatis without talking to both sides, that is common sense, he said. he thought president zelensky will sign up to the deal that will sign up to the deal that will give the us rare minerals very soon. those are visits expected next week by the french president and uk prime
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minister both due to meet president trump at the white house, hoping to bring down the temperature of the language. with me is now is simon smith. he's served as british ambassador to ukraine, the republic of korea, and austria. he is now the chairman of the ukraine forum at chatham house. the thing that stood out for me was when he said what more could president zelensky want than economic cooperation with the united states? there is an obvious answer to that question, president zelensky would want a security guarantee.— would want a security guarantee. would want a security auarantee. ., , ., ,., guarantee. that is the reason he said he — guarantee. that is the reason he said he hasn't _ guarantee. that is the reason he said he hasn't signed - guarantee. that is the reason he said he hasn't signed a - guarantee. that is the reason l he said he hasn't signed a deal on the minerals yet.— on the minerals yet. exactly. but he on the minerals yet. exactly. itut he is _ on the minerals yet. exactly. but he is saying _ on the minerals yet. exactly. but he is saying why - on the minerals yet. exactly. but he is saying why hasn't l on the minerals yet. exactly. l but he is saying why hasn't he signed, what more could he want? that is the answer. with the public discussion on the proposed minerals deal, there
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has been an absence of an answer to the question what does president zelensky get out of this? it is reported he is signing away $500 billion worth of his country's resources, what does he get? we know the answer, you and i, president zelensky is very keen to have serious and substantial participation of the united states in a security guarantee. it is easy to say who doesn't want peace, none of us will put our hands up and say we don't want peace but it is important for us to achieve a just and sustainable peace and without a security guarantee for ukraine, the risks that vladimir putin will sit back, recover, the risks that vladimir putin willsit back, recover, come back and have another go are high. t back and have another go are hiuh. . . back and have another go are hi h, , , ., , high. i guess that will be high on the agenda, _ high. i guess that will be high
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on the agenda, security - on the agenda, security guarantees next week in washington. donald trump prides himself on doing things his way. what approach do you think keir starmer should take when he goes to the white house? reinvent the wheel in terms of his approach to this kind of high—level negotiation, discussion? i high-level negotiation, discussion?— high-level negotiation, discussion? ., discussion? i think people have fiuured it discussion? i think people have figured it out _ discussion? i think people have figured it out for _ discussion? i think people have figured it out for himself. - discussion? i think people have figured it out for himself. i - figured it out for himself. i think he will have identified there is perhaps a relatively easy or straightforward place in which to start the discussion, which is to tell president trump what he has been doing, what his thinking has been about how directly britain will participate in guaranteeing the security of ukraine in the future. and can tell president trump how active britain will be injoining president trump in calling for greater contributions of the
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european powers towards their own security. what i hope he will also do is remind president trump, this is not a question of america paying for europe's security. i am sure president trump knows that there are many, many aspects in which the united states' security is tied up with europe's. i'm sure they will not reinvent the wheel in terms of starting from that point in terms of saying here is what happens in america. and happens in america. and presumably _ happens in america. and presumably get - happens in america. and presumably get a - happens in america. and presumably get a sense of what the strategic objectives of america are as well because by all appearances president trump and president zelensky do not get on, there is a war of words there but beyond that, one of there but beyond that, one of the serious objectives, we know donald trump likes to feel that he responds to those who have slighted him or done something that he doesn't like but is
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there an objective for america beyond these words? i there an objective for america beyond these words?- there an objective for america beyond these words? i am sure there are _ beyond these words? i am sure there are objectives _ beyond these words? i am sure there are objectives beyond - beyond these words? i am surei there are objectives beyond the words but you have put your finger on it, there are small picture questions here and there 1575 00:22:12,092 --> 00:22:12,
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