hamas has named six more hostages expected to be released on saturday, while israel is due to free 602 palestinian prisoners as part of the ongoing ceasefire deal america's envoy to ukraine tries to defuse the row between the two countries�* leaders, by describing president zelensky as a "courageous leader". access to user data. a doctor treating pope francis says he is not yet out the pontiff has been hospitalised with double and a world first, surgeons in the uk find a way children born with a rare

genetic condition. the israel defense forces have accused those who held hostage kfir of murdering them with their "bare hands", then committing horrific acts to cover it up. earlier, the bibas family had accused prime minister benjamin netanyahu of abandoning them. the bodies of the two children — along with veteran peace by hamas on thursday. hamas says human remains may

have become mixed up with others in the rubble after an israeli air strike or an error might have been made and is investigating. will release on saturday. tal shoham, omer wenkert, hisham al—sayed a decade ago and have been held there since. in the last few hours — daniel hagari — spokesman for the israel defense forces — gave a news briefing where he spole about ariel and kfir bibas. following a forensic examination, we can confirm that baby kfir bibas, aged just ten—months—old, and his older brother ariel, aged four, were both brutally murdered by terrorists while being held hostage in gaza.

killed in an air strike. ariel and kfir bibas were murdered by of the mood in israel. what i think you're seeing, really, is the grief

prime minister benjamin netanyahu described hamas, at nothing to seek revenge. and said that it was a gross, cruel and evil violation of the ceasefire deal that shiri bibas had not been returned. so an extremely distressing situation, of course, for yarden bibas, shiri's father, her husband, the father of the two little boys, as he awaits more news to bring the remaining hostages back. a lot of hostage relatives have long felt that he has over the survival of the ceasefire deal. you are still seeing a lot

of comments from families of the hostages saying we do not want this phase of the ceasefire deal, which would see the release 59 still in captivity, many of them are dead. but, you know, the progression of that cease fire talks let us now cover the store in

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he security guarantees before he signs any mike waltz — donald trump's national security adviser — political conference. under trump this war will end, and it will end soon. and he is the president of peace. are clutching their pearls and having conniption fits, over what? because president trump's ready to stop the killing? since world war ii? in gaza post october 7. then what? oppose peace in europe?

surrounding ukraine. earlier, we werejoined by simon smith. he served as british the republic of korea, and austria, and is now the chairman of the ukraine forum at chatham house.

zelensky get out of this? it is reported that he is required to sign away $500 billion worth of his country's resources. what does he get for it? again, a lot of us know the answer. to have serious and substantial participation of the united because it is very easy to say, we want peace. none of us is going to put our hands up and say we don't want peace. and sustainable peace. without a security guarantee for ukraine, the risks that putin willjust sit back, recover, come back and have apple is taking the unprecedented step of removing

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surgeons in the uk have become the first in the world in london, have performed groundbreaking treatment jace, from america, was one of the first children in the world to have the treatment. it was our first child at the time, and i said to her, jace was born with a rare genetic

done by university college london, was looking for answers. in this model, you can see in the back of the eye - this is what's affected . by the condition and this it was in 2020 that four little children from around the world first flew here to london to be assessed at moorfields eye hospital. they were all born with a rare genetic condition, all aged the first visit was in the middle of covid and surgery of days going through pre—op. but in september 2020, jace flew to london and visited of minutes, he was able to get

out of bed. of the nurses laugh. so how does it work? into the retina. the dna is encased in a harmless virus which breaks of sight loss is available on the nhs, this study brings blindness may soon see the benefits. children returned to london, where they underwent a number in size and navigating the corridors.

particular form of gene therapy can be effective for other- children with more common diseases in the future. - we had no idea, you know, what the results were going to be or are going to be for the long term future, matt graveling, bbc news. to receive this treatment. welcome to the programme. i understand it wasjust welcome to the programme. i understand it was just before franklin's birthday that franklin's third birthday that he received the diagnosis or that he was going to go he received the diagnosis or �*which was going to go he received the diagnosis or �*which must�*ve ng to go he received the diagnosis or �*which must�*ve been go blind whehmestne been» , devastating blind whrhmestnebeeze— , devastating for you, absolutely devastating for you, tell us about that moment and what you did next.—

what you did next i think we knew what you did next he i think we knew what you did next he was think we knew what you did next he was quite we knew what you did next he was quite young, v when he was quite young, obviously he was not looking around, but then it quite time to net the time to get the genetic t so to net the -enetic t so he net the -enetic t so he not the -enetic t so he not -enetic etic testing, so he got genetic and they told us tested and they told us what gene it was, so, yes, getting that diagnosis wasdevastating, out lose finding out he might lose vision, well, he will lose vision, well, he will lose vision around the age of five, vision, well, he will lose visii at around the age of five, vision, well, he will lose visii at the nd the age of five, vision, well, he will lose visii at the time e age of five, vision, well, he will lose visii at the time theye of five, vision, well, he will lose visii at the time they told ive, vision, well, he will lose visii at the time they told us, vision, well, he will lose visii at the time they told us it vision, well, he will lose visii at the time they to to js it vision, well, he will lose visii at the time they to to bet was absolutely nothing to be done, this it, and done, this was it, and that technology unfortunately that technology not enough to do as not adanced enoseh�*ads ——— — about it, as not adansed aaaaeh�*ada ——— — about it, just anything about it, just devastating to find out. but then you — devastating to find out. but then you - more - devastating to find out. but then you more fields i devastating to find out. but then you and more fields i devastating to find out. but then you and no are fields i devastating to find out. but then you and no one ields i devastating to find out. but then you and no one had , i devastating to find out. but then you and no one had told hospital. and no one had told to that, you just her to do that, you just decided you're hospital to ask if was anything they could do. we sent a lot of e-maits — could do. we sent a lot of e-mails all _ could do. we sent a lot of

e-mails all over— could do. we sent a lot of e-mails all over the - could do. we sent a lot of e-mails all over the place j could do. we sent a lot of i e-mails all over the place to out about what was c-oin then we got in touch on and then we got in touch with the professor who told us that there might be a trial that there might be atrial up that there might be a trial up mark but they were sure, so met with in moorefields, gyarygody in moorefields. aboutjuly, they us he aaj�*d abaat u assist the , , ~ ,. ,,, ~ us he needs to be done tell us he needs to be done before his fourth birthday, but thenit before his fourth birthday, but then it was on august time they told us it should be going on-call you on-callyou made, consequential on—call you made, and daniel, i know that, and'lianiel, i know that. we have spoken today obviously we have spoken today and our viewers have learned with his children can onl how with his children can only see likeness — a lightness or darkness, not really sha ptes shapes and so distinguishing shapes and so on, i know from reading the distinguishing shapes and so on, i knov franklin, ding the distinguishing shapes and so on, i knov franklin, he; the distinguishing shapes and so on, i knov franklin, he was: background to franklin, he was desperate make friends and desperate to make friends and socialised but he could not, so once had the gene therapy, once he had the gene therapy, what difference did make to what difference did it make to him, what difference is it making to him now? basically,

“ust kee making to him now? basically, just keep picking _ making to him now? basically, just keep picking up _ making to him now? basically, just keep picking up on - making to him now? basically, just keep picking up on those l just keep picking up on those social— just keep picking up on those social that was a massive social cues, that was a massive thing _ social cues, that was a massive thing that— social cues, that was a massive thing that was what thing that was different. what i thing that was different. what i saw. — thing that was different. what i saw. he _ thing that was different. what i saw, he tried to make friends wasn't to --aue where but wasn't able to gauge where they were in the room or do not know— they were in the room or do not know what— they were in the room or do not know what to do, and just to change — know what to do, and just to change and get to he change and get to where he wanted _ change and get to where he wanted to go, but since the triat— wanted to go, but since the trial he's— wanted to go, but since the trial he's been able to pick up on what — trial he's been able to pick up on what other kids want to do m— on what other kids want to do how to play wtw weeen wtw -_wween a himself and there just been a massive _ himself and there just been a massive change. himself and there “ust been a massive change._ it massive change. 2 it sounds m difference. it sounds like he is making — difference. it sounds like he is making pp _ difference. it sounds like he is making up for— difference. it sounds like he is making up for lost - difference. it sounds like he is making up for lost time, | difference. it sounds like he is mai yes, p for lost time, | difference. it sounds like he is mai yes, the r lost time, | difference. it sounds like he is mai yes, the difference, l difference. it sounds like hej is mai yes, the difference in katie. ukeewe: his whole world has him, his whole world has changed. katie. emmet—gig ~ ou to interrupt you for we are going to assessment, we are going to continue with our discussion, but to stay with us here on bbc news. and second or, you are

to describe the the therapgr difference the gene therapy has made to any your yes, so t tt_ttt t tw t tt wt t t t_ttittw t tt wt t t t_-tti tt wt lives. yes, so it has “ust made a hue lives. yes, so it has “ust made a huge difference, _ lives. yes, so it hasjust made a huge difference, everythingl we see on the social like we see him on the social side, has got friends, side, has got so many friends, he school in september he started school in september and is the ang ls following the she is learning to curriculum, she is learning to read large print also read large print and also so we're keeping the braille, so we're keeping the braille, so we're keeping the braille as but the large braille as well but the large just amazing stops print is just amazing stops before he would just use his betere heees'sjestese his ~ ~ , . to work out, so he hands to work things out, so he could out and things w -t not with t not with his t not with his vision, t like that, not with his vision, but now he is reading books, he it is w-w tand it is just changed amazing and it is just changed everything, so is so much more wwtw tt and he is getting independent, and he is getting involved in a lot more. and it involved in'a'lot'more. and it he was in his own world was. he was in his own world for a lot of it he cannot work

out what on, so out what was going on, so i tell you how much she cannot tell you how much she changed his life. i'm seen them do things that i just never— “ust never thought. is e ,, a now looking issa picture now that you sent to us. franklin that you sent to us. great grin. and tell us a little bit then about what the future will hold for him and what the longer term prognosis for him. mentioned he's is for him. you mentioned he's keeping on braille as keeping on learning braille as well as to

it's important for him to keep up the braille, especially as techs get we don't know the tholds .. . . t ttttheuet even. t tt future holds but even. we have alwa s future holds but even. we have always said- — future holds but even. we have always said. even _ future holds but even. we have always said. even if— future holds but even. we have always said. even if it - future holds but even. we have always said. even if it is - future holds but even. we have always said. even if it is a - always said. even if it is a couple years or anything, anything is better than nothing, and the amount of learning he will be doing now, of lea rntng’hewitl’be doing now. the of learntng’hewitl’be doing now. the social skills and life just the social skills and life skills, the things he's learning right it will happen for right now. it will happen for life we thank more fields enough. we cannot thank moretieldsenough; little earlier i interviewed the a little earlier i interviewed the �* whose team a little earlier i interviewed the �*w