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to the israeli authorities, which hamas said was that of the hostage shiri bibas. hello, i'm lucy hockings. have you with us. ukrainian and russian leaders will have to "get together" to end the war in ukraine, president trump said on friday. it comes as rhetoric against russia's invasion. in negotiations about ending the war. it's his latest public comment
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that has raised questions the us sees europe. in the last few hours, in the last few hours, donald trump again criticised donald trump again criticised what he sees as an imbalance what he sees as an imbalance in us financial support in us financial support to ukraine. to ukraine. we are spending our treasure. we are spending our treasure. are spending their blood, there are spending their blood, there are spending their blood, they are, they're very they are, and they're very they are, and they're very brave, every way can brave, in every way you can we are spending imagine, but we are spending imagine, but we are spending our treasure on a country his nightly address confirmed our treasure on a country that's very, very far away. and that's very, very far away. and it's ok, but we have to be it's ok, but we have to be treated the as europe is treated the same as europe is treated the same as europe is being treated. europe gets being europe gets treated the same as europe is being money europe gets treated the same as europe is being money back 'ope gets their money back for europe is treated the same as europe is being money back fore gets treated the same as europe is being money back for europe is basically giving nothing treated the same as europe is being money ba nothing rope is basically giving nothing because they get it back in the because they get it back in the form of a loan, and it's a form of a loan, and it's a ermicztgemn. and it's a loan. we tormiotgilgsan. and it's a loan. we get guaranteed loan. we don't get our money back we are guaranteed loan. we don't get our money back and we are our money back and we are losing... we don't to losing... we don't want to do losing... we don't want to do that any more. during that same news that conference, mr trump also said he believes a mineral deal between the us and ukraine is close. and ukraine is close. president zelensky in president zelensky in his nightly address confirmed the two countries are working
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he's been under pressure. to sign a co_ deal he's been under pressure to sign a co heads? the concern, first, lu , heads? the concern, first, lucy. thank— heads? the concern, first, lucy, thank you _ heads? the concern, first, lucy, thank you for - heads? the concern, first, - lucy, thank you for - me lucy, thank you for having me on, the concern ukraine is cm, the cancernflkraine'is very and it cm, the cancerhflkreine'ie very and it is very cm, the cancerh'ljkreine'ie very and it is very deep. they real and it is very deep. they experienced a troubling just experienced a troubling week in which president of united states went out the united states went out and talked putin before even talked to putin before even knowing the was knowing the conversation was going to happen. that is disturbing to the ukrainians. they have to be at the table in they have tp beat the table in are done. these negotiations are done. with that said, zelensky —— _: ——— he needs the united recognises he needs the united states an ally, to war to some sort ofjust this war to some sort ofjust and stable and, to ensure and stable and, and to ensure the security of ukraine, so zelensky has got this 77 . with great . 77 . with great care . relationship with great care andm relationship with great care and” ' ' relationship with great care and: !e ., , and agility. yeah, and there is some _ today - and agility. yeah, and there is some _ today that . and agility. yeah, and there is i some _ today that there some kind of is some kind of deal possibly on table when it comes to 5915155545 25415“. t? e�*ew’qsee�* ' or esp the eee $515”? it tfimcflfi ' or they are mineralsrer theyare released at that, mineralsrar theyare released at that, but he
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looking at that, but he wants security guarantees, president is 125515 going 77 is going to z; 7 li; ”going to get zelensky. is he going to get them? i zelensky. is he going to get them? ., ,., zelensky. is he going to get them? ., a, ., . a, sign 7 w ”the critical minerals will. the critical minerals deal, that is something the ukraine scalp with. i do not trump has been handling ipaeefeefiatelae almfifl the ukrainians ipaeefeefiatelae almfifl colonial the ukrainians r? , ,, iflzeeereefiatelg almfifl colonial manner ukrainians r? , ,, iflzeeereefiatelg almfifl colonial mannerto (rainians r? , ,, iflzeeereefiatelg almfifl colonial mannerto give ians r? , ,, iflzeeereefiatelg almfifl colonial manner to give up; r? , ,, a colonial manner to give up these cripple minerals, but there is a deal to be made on -- i think —— i think he will. if the is can leverage that, is is can leverage that, is a is can leverage that, is a good an leverage that, is a good idea. �*erage that, is a good idea. if �*age that, is a good idea. if itje that, is a good idea. if it can |at, is a good idea. if it can be it is a good idea. if it can be of an overall package that guarantees and some sort of coalition of the willing that the states, is a good united states, that is a good outcome stop audio heard from president zelensky today, who has europe canon do must has said europe canon do must do the spending pledges that calling watch gyfeg’yone is calling for. watch should europe be doing else'shcruld egi�*fipé'bé daihg week we are coachella heat week, we are to have the president of
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going to have the president of france and the prime minister of the uk coming to washington. and what they need to do is come up with a grand bargain commence to kind that can commence trump to kind of invest more in ukraine's and ukraine's security. ”jg %7 towards that and, what i would recommend them is coming to and saying, mr president, have a saying, mr president, we have a plan will our plan that will underscore our determination ukraine determination to secure ukraine and they give you that it is stable enduring peace can be quickly and achieved quickly and decisively. toward that, they should offer to dramatically mmp should offer to dramatically ramp up sanctions on russia, should offer to dramatically ramp up sa in :ions on russia, should offer to dramatically ramp up sa in the; on russia, should offer to dramatically ramp up sa in the russian ;ia, 7 to ride it's to ride it's more e;cgngmy. and,to ride it's more to a halt, secondly, shouldbe wishbuldbewilling ”wishbuldbewilling to they ahadla" be willie; ta step efforts they eheele" lee eillihe te etee efforts with if??? eheele" be gillifig it? e??? efforts with united states up efforts with united states to put in�*s invasion —— to step :_ z efforts... they should are e“~'" the "flu cue" .. . .,.. . ~ ~ deterrent force that would
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a deterrent force that would secure ukraine and of two to three force of two to three divisions would be 85 to 90% that would be 85 to 90% european in to european in composition, ten to 15% us composition. i cannot you. 7572? you in the eye and say look you in the eye and say such an offer will convince trump do needs be to trumo to do needs to be done to . ukraine but i know offer that, j offer that, that j offerthatffi ' ' vthatibigg 77 w” hwill total; 7 offer, trump will probably unilaterally impose an unstable cease—fire on ukraine at or walk away from the conflict, so next week or moment �* decision next week or moment of decision for ., ., for europe. you will note poland is _ for europe. you will note poland is worried - for europe. you will note poland is worried of - for europe. you will note poland is worried of the l felehd ie weffied ef the of lee worried as well baltics of lee worried as well at the moment, i've been at the moment, but i've been speaking to senators here in the us have told me that the us who have told me that european elites should not be worried about putin's imperialistic ambitions beyond ukraine —— poland is worried, the baltics are really worried. what would say? l the baltics are really worried. what would - say?- the baltics are really worried. what would - say? what would you say? i would say that i naive- _ what would you say? i would say that i naive. this _ what would you say? i would say that i naive. this tree _ what would you say? i would say that i naive. this tree is - that is naive. this tree is with exams of when we replete with exams of when we have attempted or people have
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7 7 —n, by imperialists. lilee fetihg'bg ' ' " them territory with the giving them territory with the they will not be next. if is given territory, if putin is given territory, if putin is given territory, if putin is given a victory in ukraine, there will be wider �*ineurope. n finish on that very sober note. ian brzezinski, thank you for �* thoughts. good to your thoughts. good to have your thoughts. good to have your thoughts. good to have your thoughts on bbc news. well, it's been another dizzying week in us politics, and to read the bbc�*s wrap—up of what happened, from attempting to re—hire sacked nuclear workers bring you the latest analysis on the most important they have transferred more human remains from gaza to israeli representatives. mrs bibas' body was due to be
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a veteran of israel's spy agency says the fog of war may have played a part. solution to this question, is that hamas either made the return of bodies has onlyjust begun, but already it's the source of confusion and anger. many are presumed to be dead. hamas probably doesn't hold them all. there are likely to be many more moments just like this. it will release on saturday.
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tal shoham, omer wenkert, hisham al—sayed and avera mengisto. a decade ago and have been held there since. hamas says israel will release 602 prisoners in exchange. also have some live pictures coming to us from tel aviv at the moment we show you the moment that we can show you now. you can see people gathered the road has gathered there, the road has been cordoned off, they are holding israeli flags. is holding israeli flags. this is outside the forensic institute holding israeli flags. this is ol tel e the forensic institute holding israeli flags. this is ol tel e the and nsic institute holding israeli flags. this is ol tel e the and they nstitute holding israeli flags. this is ol tel e the and they are tute in tel aviv, and they are waiting for body of shiri waiting for the body of shiri bibas to be delivered, we waiting for the body of shiri bibas to be i to vered, we waiting for the body of shiri bibas to be i to the ed, we waiting for the body of shiri bibas to be i to the institute. understand, to the institute. this is all part of the seas filed —— cease—fire deal, but remember these are part of tests . tests. proeihg was theie ferefiile ese efeelfifi was not her, it was therbedy was nether, it was body of an unidentified j the bibas gazan woman. the bibas family have been at the centre of a lot of pain and that
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let et the pain. and arietthet ' "fl" israelis feel let et the eel". and arietthet ' "fl" israelis feel those many israelis feel about those that taken so that were taken hostage, so these live pictures to �*leee lee "�*"'e: --——- t-r —— at the 7 atthe from 7 at the from tel aviv. joining me live to discuss is simone ledeen, former quite poignant to see this empty street as we wait here for the body of shiri to be in tel aviv, but �* what �*what thoughts are wonder what your thoughts are on this incredibly fragile deal.: 77 deal.:it % deal.:it isf on for now l on fornow but 77 77 really 7? really doesn't seem to the really doesn't seem to the word. doesn't seem to be the word. yes, it is fragile -- - does _ be the word. yes, it is fragile -- - does - to - be the word. yes, it is fragile -- - does - to be . be the word. yes, it is fragile | -- - does - to be the z ahd my thoughts are with "a eed "e �*h*"“" are with . 7 ~ . . bibas family. 7 bibas family. how could the bibas family. how could they not be? this is just, the bibas family. how could they not be? this isjust, it hard to find the words, is hard to find the words, truly, to the trglyé to describe the but it is truly situatieh, bet it is trdly for any group desires a ""'to
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7 7 7 vtodo 77 7777771511707 this cease—fire to do what this group of terrorists has done, it is just group of terrorists has done, it isjust unimaginable. so, i am not really sure we can am not really sure where we can go from here, i know everyone is eager everyone... everyone is eager to see the hostages back, and i the six 77 77777 the six on thesixonthe 77 the six on the list 77 7 the six on the list that 7 hopethesix, onthe list that just read released, you just read are released, returned to but the returned to israel, but the situation of the bibas family, the murder of babies, the the murder otthosebabies, the that the marderofethasebabies, the that shiri bibas may or fact that shiri bibas may or may not be returned at this point but they lied point but they certainly lied about it, don't really know we go from here after next six. are returned. we go from here, there where we go from here, there was outrage, still is, was this outrage, still is, over shiri bibas, but is gygr shiri bibas. but there is an indication israel is not not an indication israel is not going to take part in talks not an indication israel is not goin�* a :o take part in talks not an indication israel is not goin�* a second jart in talks not an indication israel is not goin�* a second phase talks not an indication israel is not goin�* a second phase of ks over a second phase of the cease—fire l over a second phase of the cease-fire _ over a second phase of the cease-fire eeaeerfire deal? wait and should wait and see what on saturday, and i'm
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happens on saturday, and i'm not... i would happens on saturday, and i'm not... iwould not happens on saturday, and i'm not... i would not place my bets on any particular outcome at this point. i believe at this point. i do believe that mood has shifted that the mood has shifted i'm not sure significantly, and i'm not sure that there will be a phase two. think we should wait and see lthihh we sheeld wait arena — ~ .,, happens lthihh we sheeld wait arane , ~ .,, happens at. ltbidle see ebeeld eait ead—eee w e l. .... ha ens at. ltbidle see ebeeld eait ead—eee w w w .... ha ens at. .,, what happens at. there has been well this what happens at. there has been i well this - meeting - as well this informal meeting taking place in reality today, 67qu g7ulf states 7 7 the golf states—represented. and jordan as well, egypt and jordan as well, but have become anything of -k|.nd°f s... .. . . .. .: 7 7ki7nd7of77pla7n7tha7t7 7 77 7 7ki7nd7of77pla7n7tha7t7n71ig7ht7 77 any kind of plan that might . . the one that being counter the one that is being forward by the trump pot forward by the rump”le -.. w pot forward by the trumpw w w pot femard by the trumpw w w administration? yes, i believe there will _ administration? yes, i believe there will. a _ administration? yes, i believe there will. a plan. _ administration? yes, i believe there will. a plan. - willl there will be a plan. that will be put forward. i believe the official announcement is coming be put forward. i believe the off march nouncement is coming be put forward. i believe the off march the 1cement is coming be put forward. i believe the off march the 4th nent is coming be put forward. i believe the off march the 4th or 1t is coming be put forward. i believe the off march the 4th or so. coming be put forward. i believe the off march the 4th or so. during; on march the 4th or so. during emergency meeting that's announced. i been announced. but, yes, i think we can assume that there be an alternative that will be an. alternatiyethate..- ,-. .- . ,-. be billions of will be enhanced b"m= ef w w ~ ~ ,. w from both will be enhanced b"m= ef w w ~ ,, ,. w from both nations will be enhanced elle" ef w w ~ ~ ~ ,., from both nations dash dollars from both nations dash mikkel for nations to rebuild what of us are
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gaza. what some ef be are is egypt and the mauthority, in 77 palestinian authority, in the form of abbas, might form of mahmoud abbas, might some sort of financial and, yes, there will incentive, and, yes, there will be an alternative to trump —— gulf nations plan announced —— gulf nations to rebuild gaza. the trump plan really was just, as to rebuild gaza. the trump plan really wasjust, as i've been saying, and initial saying. and initial pesl�*le“ , ,, ~~ , ,., negotiations sagging; éné initiéi easi�*m“ , ~ ~~ , ,,, negotiations can saying; anti initial easi�*m“ , ~ ~~ , ,,, negotiations can begin, where negotiations can begin, where negotiations can begin, where discussions begin, so seems the gulf 77 it seems that the gulf states have taken the baton and have have taken the batch and'have forward it, have taken the batch and'heve forward it, and our moved forward with it, and our our to are going to a solution that involves a new palestinian not palestinian governing body, not the not hamas, but someone :== 7 by the arab league, installed by the arab league, more of the technocratic government. i think that is
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what we're at starting wfiét if??? letting {it etéftifig this 185231. 1.33??? 1715171535712 5131. etéftifig this announcement on march with this announcement on march the 4th. ~ . . ., with this announcement on march the 4th. ~ . a i, with this announcement on march thellthe . a i, with this announcement on march the it they . then _ with this announcement on march the it they . then have, - with this announcement on march the 4 they judi then have, given think. they can. then beige. given �*allies of think. they ten. the-rt heve. given �*allies of the us, the their allies of the us, the sallies and the uae, with some these ideas? , can significant influence andindeed can significant influence and indeed i am and was and indeed i am notand was never and indeed i am not and was never convinced the trump truly to administration truly wanted to take full ownership of gaza. again, ithink take full ownership of gaza. again, i think that was an initial negotiating position, so i believe they do have quite large amount of a large amount of influence, and a la use mount of influence, a la use that nt of influence, a la use that influence ence, a la use that influence to :e, shape happens really shape what happens next, biggest concern is actually my biggest concern is actually their ability to police what happens to the money and what happens to the money and what happens to the investment are putting in to gaza or they are putting in to gaza or that they would be putting into gaza, because as we have the past decades at the th at ast decades at the th at dollars ides at the billions of dollars have been invested into gaza
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already been investeeieintegeze the already been investeeieintegaza the gulf already been investedeinthaza the gulf nations and hamas, by the gulf nations and hamas, as we have have turned as we have seen, have turned into terrorist infrastructure, so they will need to take considerable measures to make that that does not happen $552 $2.52 :ee�*e 7 much for “oinini us as a 7.27 much for “oinini us as we very much forjoining us as we continue to look at live continue to look at these live coming to us from pictures coming to us from tel aviv at the moment, the international committee of the red cross confirming they have international committee of the red cross confirn human y have international committee of the red cross confirn human remains gaza "777765251077" 7' 7” "7 ”77715525107 iéiéeii 7” "7 from gaza to israeli hamas has representatives. hamas has claimed it has had over the of the israeli hostage body of the israeli hostage shiri bibas who have been discussing, this is outside discussing, and this is outside institute, these the forensic institute, these live pictures seeing at live pictures we're seeing at the in tel and a lot of the moment, in tel and a lot of people have gathered on the road, sombre atmosphere road, very sombre atmosphere there in tel aviv. mrs bibas's there in tel aviv: mrs bibas's was due to be released on body was due to be released on thursday as part �*a thursday as part of a cease—fire deal but as we have extending the remains that delivered; 7 w deliveredf not were delivered were not hers, they were that i an
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unidentified gazan woman. we continue to watch these pictures and any developments from aviv, we will bring figoanel aviv. we will bring to you. some breaking news to bring you now. a federaljudge has temporarily blocked violate the first amendment of the us constitution. let's turn to some other important news he's feeling slightly better but still not out of danger, all next week. professor sergio alfieri said the 88—year—old pontiff�*s abdomen was good and his heart was "very strong."
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it comes as tensions between washington and pretoria persist. us secretary of state marco rubio announced he would not attend the g20 foreign ministers�* and its genocide case against israel at the international court ofjustice. while china has defended the excercises saying the man accused of killing unitedhealthcare's chief appeared at a new york city courthouse on friday afternoon the 26—year—old arrived shackled, wearing a bulletproof mr mangione faces state murder
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and terrorism charges — his case has sparked a frenzy of criticism and support. mr mangione's message. when i go visit luigi in brooklyn, i sit with him, he is not shackled, he walks around in the visiting area, we roomtogetherwithout sit in a room together without law enforcement covering over us. but for whatever reason, here, despite all the law enforcement, need him to wearing vest, they need be wearing this vest, they need him to be shackled, police blglto be shackled. police right over us and we can stand right over us and we can no time with him. thatng mangione's lawyer, speaking outside the
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berlin police have arrested one suspect after a stabbing at the holocaust memorial left one person injured. police say the victim is a 30—year—old spanish man. a spanish tourist who was visiting berlin's holocaust he was visiting berlin's holocaust memorial site, the memorial to the murdered jews of europe 6.00 local time. he's being treated in hospital. police have said that his injuries are not believed to be life—threatening. that they believed he had fled the scene with the weapon. they didn't know what the weapon was exactly. may have been known to each other, but there were witnesses in the latest update, though, that we've had, they say that a suspect has
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